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Will the NSA use the Xbox One to spy on your family?

Not unlike Kinect, Skype had assured its users that "wiretaps were technically impossible" the company told CNET in 2008. And four years later, when hackers accused Skype owner Microsoft of changing the service's backend to facilitate government eavesdropping, the company categorically denied the accusations. Now, it seems like the company could have been lying, or at least had quietly changed its mind. Mind you, Microsoft is also denying last Thursday's Guardian report, but the denial is a lot less clear-cut. The company disavows having providing "blanket or direct access" to Skype, but doesn't deny that it provides Skype video or audio to the government upon request.

So even if we(consumers) take Microsoft's word that the Kinect doesn't currently upload private conversations to remote servers, can anyone trust that Microsoft won't change that in a future software update?

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pwnsause_returns3954d ago

well, they're part of prism...so yea....

ala_7673954d ago

Hell yeah They will spy on us! Thanks to the Patriot Act!

Roper3163954d ago

not me because the XB1 is not allowed in my house.

Colzer013954d ago

if they want to watch me jerk off, have at it

zebramocha3954d ago

You know they did it so they could "jump in".

Cueil3954d ago

poor @Roper316 why would they use your Xbox One when they can just use your cell phone

mewhy323953d ago

I've been saying this over and over in here. I will not be having a spy camera in my living room.

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Kanzes3954d ago

The fact is, The same moment the Verge has a story about whether Kinect will be used to spy, the Microsoft section reports about how Microsoft is urging the Attorney General to uphold the constitution regarding privacy.

Meaning, Microsoft isn't willingly handing the NSA access to its servers, but rather under political duress.

To see them making public statements like this shows they're incredibly pissed at the PR damage its causing them and that they're not colluding in some kinda New World Order conspiracy scenario.

http://www.theverge.com/201...

jmc88883954d ago

But they STILL are making Kinect2 mandatory.

You'd think since they KNOW this is happening, they'd take that mandatory requirement and throw it out the window.

They are telling US they aren't willing, but by virtue of their actions with Kinect, they very much ARE willing.

Otherwise they wouldn't put themselves in such a position.

Think about it.

JokesOnYou3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Kanzes actually awhile back micro was fighting against the govt opposing countless requests for info about its customers long before X1 or ps4 were even thought of.

This site that tracks online companies who fight for you shows a break down and dhows micro is one of the better companies who fight for privacy rights:
https://www.eff.org/who-has...

Also again the govt doesn't pay for info, they request it or supeona it so whats in it for micro to give the govt video or taped conversations of everyday citizens, while you're at it can you imagine the wasted resources for eavesdropping/spying? lol, I've never heard a rational response to all this. If you guys are truly worried you should stay off the internet, never use Google, Yahoo, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter or download or send a email again.
http://www.zdnet.com/fbi-sa...
http://m.huffpost.com/us/en...

-lol, The in a digital age the govt has access to anything with servers. For those so scared why do they never complain about the thousands of other ways the govt can spy on you...fortunately the truth is nobody gives a damm about you and me yhe avg joe, hell they aren't even concerned with petty crimes like drugs, they are looking for National Security threats...lol hurry up get off the internet all you secret agents.

Ray1863954d ago

They get no props at all. Twitter outright refused when they were served, and guess what nothing happened. Which I surmise was due to the fact that Twitter would have been screaming to anyone who would listen all the way to the courthouse about what was going on.

georgeenoob3954d ago

Simple question: Why would they do that? Are they trying to find families in trailers manufacturing meth?

FITgamer3954d ago

So only trailer trash play xbox?

Kanzes3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Because MS reaally loves to see a bunch out-of-shape boys wearing only boxer on a dark room /s

JunioRS1013954d ago

Any person naive enough to say "no they won't spy on me that's just blown out of proportion" doesn't deserve freedom or privacy.

Cueil3954d ago

the government doesn't give a rats behind about you or 99.99 percent of the people on this site... and if they asked for user info from N4G... guess what N4G would give it to them

JunioRS1013954d ago

No shit @ Cueil

I'm saying it's naive to trust primarily the NSA not so much Microsoft because I know they're just being compliant to the Gov's demands, but the NSA is still completely wrong for what they're doing.

"Oh but we need to sacrifice privacy for security" right?

Wrong.

The reason we have enemies is because we earned our enemies through shady business and war-like culture. It is the Gov's fault that we should feel threatened by anyone in the first place. The constitution was set up not only to keep Americans safe but also to mind our own business and focus on leading by example not by leading through force.

thekhurg3954d ago

Not my family since I won't be buying one.

LackTrue4K3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Microsoft already said that its gana hit you with ads that reflex on your search/purchases/Bling. yes there watching to some extent.

And when ever FBI needs to find someone, it wont hurt them give a name to XboxLive's serves, and let them search accounts. if similar names pop up, they will then surveillance after....not before.

yeahokchief3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

it is true. they will.

human beings are the worst. greedy, manipulative, self centered.

they'll use it against you in one way or another.

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Nicholasgliss3954d ago

I'm be fresh as hell if da Feds watchin. But they won't see me through a bone. X that is.

Starbucks_Fan3954d ago

Drop top, head bobbing

I feel embarrassed I know this song -_-

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jc485733954d ago

most likely yea. They want to know if you go crazy if you play too much shooters.

Nexus383954d ago

yea sure im sure they have enough employees to sit around and watch millions of people all day everyday play video games.. Christ is our society really this gullible

Roper3163954d ago

it's not that they will sit there all day watching you but if they ever decide to look into you MS will have a nice big data file on you readily available for them.

Nexus383954d ago

a data file ? what does that even mean.. microsoft will have huge files on every person who ever bought an xbox one, what would microsoft have on those files the persons gamerscore? also if the nsa decides to look into you im pretty sure your doing illegal activity's anyway

Foxgod3954d ago

Do you know how much it costs to host a big datafile for everybody?

It already costs 10ns of millions to just hold on to all that email.
It would cost billions to host everybody's videofeed, and even hundreds of millions if you only store snapshots and audio samples.

Do you really think they will waste all that money, if all they have to do by law, is save emails?

Kanzes3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

What have you done to make them watch you? You sounds like an escaped convict.

On different perspective, A Laptop got a mandatory camera too. But it seems people didn't care about it. This Kinect spy thing are just some story that haters created to bash the company even more.

dc13954d ago

It's all about (in simple terms) trigger based outputs. Primarily this is driven through software that monitors sound inputs.
I won't explain further. ..because you guys should be sound and upstanding in all your activities. But if you're not, then the big K is listening. ..and watching.

Cueil3954d ago

if you're cooking up crap to be the next boston bomber they may have issue with you... but if you're just banging your chick they could care less

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Rai3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

your pretty gullible yourself if you think people actually sit and watch people..

They use the devices to record and send information.

Nexus383954d ago

jesus... do you honestly think they have the time, people and resources to record everyone playing?70% of those recordings will be 12 year olds harassing people. the fact is if they decide to look into what your doing, your most likely already doing something illegal.

Colzer013954d ago

Only a criminals and terrorists who will have a though at this. Or..... a fanboys

DiRtY3954d ago

"As far as Kinect watching you, yes- you uncovered our master plan to watch overweight twenty-somethings play Skyrim for 8 hours straight."

http://www.dorkly.com/artic...

Colzer013954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

MS loves 12-year old boys to swearing on Kinect

jmc88883954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Actually your position is gullible.

It doesn't work like that. DO you visit every website to find one, or do you use a search function like google?

They literally have their own google. After all google was originally the NSA voice to text program, then applied to websites.

I'm sorry, but YOU ARE THE GULLIBLE one.

Oh and yes, webcams are used to spy on people, even kids in umcompromising positions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/w...

Oh and they are doing this to everyone, regardless of whether they are a criminal.

But if you want to know our gov't track record with people they actually suspect is a criminal...Here.

http://www.zerohedge.com/ne...

So even when they try the more traditional way of spying, and actually try to go through actual legal channels, they still are mostly wrong and are spying on innocent people.

Now what do you think the percentage is when they are literally trying to record everything and have big data centers built?

Hell through their contract with just ONE private party, Narus, they have the capability to record 100 gb/s at 18 different spots in the U.S.

The costs and logistics are not an issue. If Microsoft doesn't want to be FORCED to be a part of it, don't make such unnecessary requirements....necessary to use the console.

How hard is it for people to understand that. If you are designing something new, and you know the gov't will force you turn over your customers data you have two choices.

1. Alter your plans so they aren't compromised (which would be say...allowing Kinect to be unplugged)

2. Use the bully pulpit and make a big fuss and never stop doing so.

So many arguments on this thread where people have their heads in the sand or look to blame someone else. When your data through Microsoft is compromised, it is the fault of BOTH Microsoft AND the gov't.

Again targeting ads = spying on you...because by what metric are they targeting those ads?

So Microsoft wants to spy on you, and is building a camera that allows the gov't to force them to give them that information. Corporations want that data, gov'ts want that data. But the camera isn't just a camera, it's not just audio or video. That's like 5 percent of what they capture. It's a super camera, so it's far beyond any other spy camera out there.

Meanwhile all this time, they have been lying through their teeth. Again, MS through ALL of their products are handing over data to the gov't. What Kinect2 will be the first that won't?

cleft53954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Information can be categorized and set so that only key phrase or expressions followed by key phrase draws their attention. Also, it doesn't need to be a case of active monitoring, but simply having that information on file to cross reference in case they need to know more about a person. Information gathering technique have been greatly refined for a very long time now. The fact that you don't understand how this stuff works shows your gullibility.

Don't take my word, do a quick search on information related to how Federal agencies sort through the information they gather. Also, the government doesn't solely sort the information themselves. They partner with many different agencies to sort through this sort of information. I really suggest you read up on the PRISM program, even if you don't believe it, it does give you a decent idea of how information is being collected and sorted.

Campy da Camper3954d ago

OK forget ms corporate. What about a criminal with WiFi skills that wants to case your home to see if its empty? What about that perv in IT who makes a few Vids of you in compromising positions then spams them to your friends list?

Sure the NSA can find u with or without ms but I'm not letting douche bag per vs and criminals into my living room.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk775h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE2h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 20h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 12h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 10h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 10h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 14h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 9h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 4h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 18h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 12h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 9h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 12h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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