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Scandal: Applause and cheering at the Xbox One reveal didn't come from the press

Many of you heard the enthusiastic applause and cheering during the Xbox One reveal, but when showing the public, all of them were holding their tablets. So Some of journalists who attended the event confirmed that :

Jeff Gertsmann:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Adam Sessler (link below):

NeverEnding19893993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

I was wondering why you could hear applause but couldn't see any hand movement in the first few rows.

Edit- And we need a real article, not a Twitter post

#justthebeginning

nrvalleytime3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

#justthebegining? Of what? Not sure where you're going with this one.

As a side-note, this has been standard practice for years in the gaming industry, for better or worse. Sony didn't do it during the PS4 announcement, and people commented how quite it was at times.

The worst part, however, was the times these hired people chose to clap. No logical person could have gotten that excited over timed FIFA exclusivity or "Xbox, watch TV." At least try to maintain the illusion Microsoft.

As a final thought - this doesn't make it right. But we definitely shouldn't act like this is a new thing and make a bigger deal of it. It's been a problem for a long time, and the gaming market needs to decide how it wants to present its products.

Enemy3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

Lmao well this is awkward.

Rainstorm813993d ago

I agree the thing that got applause kinda had me confused....

I was getting diappointed by the lack of games shown but the crowd was applausing every media aspect shown, at first i thought the crowd was more mainstream media and less gaming media.

Parapraxis3993d ago

#justthebeginning #oftheend #dealwithit

hesido3993d ago

I thought there were more sports journalists than gaming journalists.

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gta28003992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

My initial reaction was that Microsoft invited a bunch of friends to the event so they could kiss their ass with all the enthusiastic clapping. But I guess it makes sense now.

Kevin ButIer3992d ago

The event was held a at the MS campus... no surprise

alien6263992d ago

no wonder it sounded fake and all i saw was the press typing on their laptops. plus sounded out of place like if it was record before hand.

darren_poolies3992d ago

I'm pretty sure they didn't announce FIFA exclusivity, just an exclusive mode or some crap.

aceitman3992d ago

its an informercial if u want ur 20$ u better clap and 10$ bonus goes to the best clapper.

Hayabusa 1173992d ago

I wondered why the yanks were applauding the announcement of a FIFA game...

If this is common practice in game events then, I applaud (though not loudly) Sony for not doing it at their announcement. The way of honesty and sincerity is the way to go, not superficial approval.

Hayabusa 1173992d ago

"The event was held at a the MS campus.."

And they still had to fake the cheering...

Cueil3992d ago

if by hired your mean Employees... because that's who they were

Unlimax3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

The moment where the applause and enthusiasm exaggerated at the Tv app Made me feel strange !

And after all in the end it turned a Fake Audience ಠ_ಠ

Your days are numbered M$ .

Shadow Flare3992d ago

Apparently it wasn't applause at all. It was people driving out of the gravel car park as fast as they could

sikbeta3992d ago

Go to the blog, they choose people to fill the first rows of seats...

nveenio3992d ago

I actually messaged a friend during the live stream and said, "Looks like they hired clappers..." You can tell the difference between excitement and acting. If it was legitimate happiness, it still would have sounded different. Not so forced.

Man2bFree3992d ago

This is the least amount of dislikes i ever seen in comments lol

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piroh3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

LMAO
shame

gano3993d ago

sorry m$ doesn't have that.

BrunoM3993d ago

Lol it's so sad lol and funny at the same time ..

Well it does explain why I was watching it and was getting depressed about it no live demo at all of any game .. And some how all those people clamping for tv crap and things that no one who owns a tv would clap for lol

Well playing cheering and clamping off speakers will do it haha so sad solo solo sad lol

InfamousBlackGuy3992d ago

They don't need to clap; the kinect does it for you...

Seriously though, it's a sad thing when you need to stage your own accreditation so that the live viewers don't think your product is completely worthless. I was wondering why some of the presenters gave that awkward gesture almost as though they expected a bloody encore.

JeromeNtheHouse3992d ago

Totally! I knew something was odd. Lot of these presentations are always so lame anyway. Even if they're showing something cool, jus the way the go about it is so dumb.

The clapping and cheering was so blatanly fake tho. You can totally tell they were paid actors.

theoneb3992d ago

This is shameful and as a gamer who has made this a part of my life since Atari 2600 the whole wii success story was a puzzling thing. I always thought that something wasn't adding up.

So a google search reveals that yes the wii sold alot of hardware but not many games other than first party, mario is magic. Why I wondered? Well my theory is that casuals dont buy games nearly as often as a hardcore gamer like myself. Hell I have over 50 games on my hard drive alone. A person only needs to look at the wii u to see that casuals just dont care about games that much.

The only reason I think the wii was successful is because it was cheap and pop culture did the advertising. So what does this have to do with MS? I highly doubt that gold will be struck twice in the casual market especially if the price is>200. I believe they have dug thier own grave. I already have a cable box and android phone for casual crap. I want my gaming machine to do what those divices cant!!!

MarkusMcNugen3992d ago

@theoneb

"I already have a cable box and android phone for casual crap. I want my gaming machine to do what those divices cant!!!"

Your cable box and android phone can run Call of Duty, WatchDogs, Tomb Raider, Crysis 3, etc...

I really need to get one of those magical devices that can play games for other platforms.

theoneb3991d ago

@ Markus

well technically yes a phone could run a version of call of duty or any other game it would just look like ass. I love to have the best looking games period no matter which platform and right now next gen looks to be a wider gap power wise than we had this gen.

To me a console focuses on casual gaming to make up for short commings in the power department. You dont need alot of power for kenect games lol

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GiggMan3993d ago

I just posted the same thing in another article. I figured MS planted people in the audience to try to stir ovations lol. If you listened closely all the cheers sounded like they came from the same group of people.

Gardenia3992d ago

And they were cheering for things that was not impressive at all. Make sense now

Raccoon3993d ago

These people have now gone to a whole new low.... The only thing in my room that has to do with Microsoft in my room is my laptop and even that change soon thanks to these deceitful bastards and their damn subscription fees to access more fees...

joe903993d ago

Seems like Neogaf just nit picking on Xbox. why the hell are we getting news of who clapped and who had a tablet in there hand on N4G.

Xbox1 already getting major hatred on N4G for some reason.

Just let it be, if you own a PS3 or PC even a Wii U, why bother about what MS doing. as long as you get your games and enjoy your system then you are safe of what microsoft are selling.

One thing i am glad about is MS biting the bit and going Blu-ray, sony got the right product with bluray.

stuna13993d ago

We sure know what you're getting on launch day!

Studio-YaMi3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

Some are hating because they are fanboys,others have all the right to be pissed at what was revealed,this doesn't even come CLOSE to what Sony showed and talked about on their PS4 reveal !

3 games(1 is a racer)& 4 sport games
total of 2 exclusives and the rest is multiplatform.

Underwhelming architecture which they try to lie and call "rocket science" & then all that kinect 2 & interacting with your TV crap !

If you're not pissed,then that's fine,but don't expect lots of "gamers" not to be !

gamertk4213993d ago

It was a shorter version of what Sony did. Swap the long game play vids for the actual hardware. E3 is where things will get interesting. Of course you Sony fanboys will say you loved the PS4 show and hated, the Xbox1 reveal, just like us Xbox fans say the opposite. That won't change.

joe903993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

Stuna1 what am i getting launch day?

I play PC but i am swayed more towards PS4 if i DO buy a console next gen.

I just wanna switch on my gaming device sit back,relax and play, can not be bothered with this shouting at the computer for it to change channel.

Good games, K/B or Controler and that will do me.

EDIT: i see i got a bag load of disagrees for my last comment, what is wrong with people these days. i just said don't like it, don't buy it....simplez.

stuna13992d ago

It was just a joke, I'm sorry if I offended you.

Hayabusa 1173992d ago

Oh yes, I'm a Microsoft Fanboy, that's why I'm screwing and getting on the hate wagon, I have every right to, they have disappointed me, bitterly...

Sure, I'm going to get a PS4, I didn't need MS to flop to convince me to do so, Sony just needed to make the right moves which they did, but I was hoping there'd be room for two consoles in my life next gen...no point now.

I'll give them 'till E3, but if they don't show any convincing game, then it's bye bye Microsoft for me, they've been getting away with this shit for far too long. People hated on Sony when they started shoving bull-crap into peoples faces, why should Microsoft not get the same treatment?

It's about games, not f*cking brand loyalty.

FITgamer3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

@Joe90 "if you own a PS3 or PC even a Wii U, why bother about what MS doing." First that sentence should end with a ?, second M$ is Sony's biggest competition so people should care what they are doing good or bad.

pop-voxuli3992d ago

Its not just N4G, I havent seen anything but hatred from any website.

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GenericNameHere3993d ago

Is that a "thing" now? Ehh what the heck. I'll join you. The Sony conference also disappointed me, but it didn't prepare for how horrible today's MS X1 event was. Wait for E3 you say, but that's what fans have been saying for the last 3 years. I'll stop joining you if Microsoft doesn't deliver again. But until then...

4>1

ThatCanadianGuy5143993d ago

You gotta admit, man.The 4>1 is pretty catchy.

Flipgeneral3993d ago

Yeah, the over done applause annoyed me too . But you guys need to keep in mind that this was at the Microsoft campus

The entire presentation was ass though.

PS4 for me

Cueil3992d ago

listening skill level 1

They told everyone last week that this wasn't about games and was to introduce the console. They even said it at the start of the event... they said it TWICE... once asserting what this was about and shortly after telling you that E3 was going to be focus completely on games and so they were not going to show this.

I'd agree with some of this crap about not showing games if they didn't tell everyone that they were not going to show games. In fact it was one of the top articles on this site just last week if I'm not mistaken.

S2Killinit3992d ago

@Cueil
your missing the point bro, whats eating me isn't that I think they don't have games. The problem here is that they aren't focused on games. How can they introduce a Gaming machine for the first time and focus on Non-gaming properties? Its supposed to play games! tell me about the games, what are the specs? What type of games will it focus on? kinect? hardcore? MS is just not in it for the games anymore.

SegataSanshiro3992d ago

Segata Sanshiro is disappointed. Time to say bye bye to MS.

TwistedMetal3992d ago

Ms has been feeding you all lies from the begining and even with the x360 to control you and cheat you all. its time for the return of the playstation. let the dark knight rise baby. ms can take our lives, but they will never take our freeeeeeedddddooooommmmmmmm!!! !

playstation 4!!!!!! iiittttsss Tiiiimmmmeeeee!!!!

RankFTW3992d ago

You're mental but I agree.

JoGam3992d ago

Can't believe this day will come....... I actually agree with you NeverEnding.

bub163992d ago

i did see a real article about this yesterday, apparently it was the Xbox employees sitting at the very back cheering

jjf3992d ago

a bit off topic but I was wondering weather the Kinect demo was faked, it seems all the good responsive kinect demos on 360 were so should we all swallow this demo as indicative of the final hardware?

drizzom3992d ago

I'll be looking forward to Adams next 'Sessler's Something' to hear about this...

SonyPS3603992d ago

I agree with you but please stop with the stupid hashtag posts.

NarooN3992d ago

Wow, this is definitely the worst console reveal ever. They even had to fake the appreciation in the audience. This is beyond shameful.

nosferatuzodd3991d ago

well I've bin saying it for years how unscrupulous ms is but no one believe me now its out in the open
just like how they pay some guy over a 100million to create the scroogle ad and pay people to talk bad about samsung galaxy s 3 on facebook and it back fired on them good will always triumph over greed and MS is has Greedy has they come

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LOL_WUT3993d ago

I guess the audience wasn't too enthusiastic about the revealing ;)

raWfodog3993d ago

I thought it was coming from an applause track.

GiggMan3993d ago

I also thought it was funny how the presenters "hammed" it up during the applauses. As if it were warranted. lol

Cam9773992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

That's effing hilarious, that's a huge fail

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bicfitness3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

Honestly, what game journos would get excited for like 45 minutes of Kinect integration and a bunch of cable-box stuff? Between this, crappier specs, the "used game fee" and their recent "we purposely didn't target high end graphics" admission of defeat (surprised no one made a story of it yet, here you go: http://www.neogaf.com/forum... MS better hope they can throw enough advertising dollars at the problem to make it go away.

This is a Wii U level disaster in the making. Moreso, because it was MS' game to lose.

torchic3993d ago

from a commentor in the link you provided:

"Japan is just so smart.
The whole Wii strategy was just there to lure Microsoft
into a wrong strategy so Sony can reclaim the throne."

LOL

M-M3993d ago

LOL it's funny how much sense that makes.

raWfodog3993d ago

Nintendo was the sacrificial goat needed for Japan to regain its honor :)

stuna13993d ago

Bubbles++++ if I could give you ten I would!

The crows are home to roost, there's no other way to put it! Especially if you have a formula that has worked for you an entire generation, why change something that isn't broken or in Miicrosoft case something that you didn't know was broken!?

GenericNameHere3993d ago

To counter those stupid Xbots who say N4G is a Sony fanboy's heaven...

You guys are stupid. The media is biased, filled with Xbox fanboys. Look at most reviews. They almost always review the Xbox 360 version of games. Look at Machinima. Xbox fanboy heaven. Those YouTube "celebrities"? They play on Xbox 360 because they are biased and will get them more views. Blah blah blah blah Xbox bias blah blah blah media blah!

BlaqMagiq243992d ago

Don't bother. Trying to talk sense to Xbox fanboys is like talking to a wall. They're ignoring the truth and are willing to shell out money to a company that alienates their fans even more now with the Xbox One.

JamieL3992d ago

@ BlaqMagiq24
You-"Trying to talk sense to Xbox fanboys is like talking to a wall."
Corrected-"Trying to talk sense to ANY fanboy is like talking to a wall."
Don't for 1 second act like the PS3 super zealots are any better. Just because they share your opinion doesn't make them "better".

BlackTar1873992d ago

Jamie 100% agree. All Fanboys are ridiculous its kinda what the term stands for.

SonyPS3603992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

Your argument basically boils down to

"no u"

All fanboys are retarded, for both Sony and Xbox.

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hesido3993d ago

Neogaf is currently doing maintenance! I guess they are running on a windows server? Is MS trying to supress the initial let-down? #conspiracy #kidding #wtfamIdoinghashtagging

stage883992d ago

Don't worry Microsoft will most definitely get lower than that next gen.

Godmars2903993d ago

When hasn't MS had some element of their presentations staged?

Conan-O-Brady3992d ago (Edited 3992d ago )

It's hard to tell whether you like that sort of thing or are just pointing out the obvious. The average Spike viewers not gonna know that it was all staged, hell the majority of them are completely oblivious to MS's smoke and mirrors practice.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7219h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle6h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga5h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1018h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac7h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1016h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 13h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 10h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 5h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 1h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 13h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic23h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9022h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 13h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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