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American McGee Not Impressed With Sony PS4 And Believes SimCity Gamers Need To Relax

Forbes - Game industry veteran American McGee has been involved in some of the biggest shooter franchises of all time. These days, as head of Spicy Horse Games, he has been focusing on original mobile games designed for cross-platform gameplay. He made the news recently by asking his Facebook fans if they’d be interested in a new Alice 3 game – something gamers answered with an overwhelming yes. He’ll be meeting with Electronic Arts, which owns the Alice IP, at GDC 2013 to see if there might even be the potential for a third Alice interactive adventure.

McGee, who lives in Shanghai and has seen firsthand why DRM is important to fight piracy, addresses the still-burning controversy with a candid response. He also explains why he’s more excited about the exploding mobile gaming category than Sony’s PlayStation 4 and talks about going to hell in his brand new game in this exclusive interview.

Snookies124482d ago

... I do enjoy the Alice games, but seriously... This guy seems to have things really backwards.

Knight_Crawler4482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

Lets me guess your opinion is based on the fact that he was not impressed with the PS4.

Maybe his expectations were higher than your and he was expecting allot more but thats not to say that he thinks the PS4 is bad, just that he had higher expectation from Sony who has a reputation of being the best when it comes to technological achievements.

Edit: " I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality. Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

Where did he say that he was not impress by some of things from the PS4? He merely express that he was expecting certain things from next gen and was disappointed that he did not see them on the PS4.

Not everyone is comformasist and some people have bigger hopes and visions from technology than some - sure you might be happy with the PS4 but he is not and has his reasons.

zerocrossing4482d ago

I wasn't exactly bowled over by the PS4 myself but you'd have to be stupid (or completely biased) not to be impressed by certain aspects, IMO.

Also, what about telling people to "Relax" over Simcity? That whole fiasco is an appalling mess! Gamers deserve to be as angry about it as they feel necessary after spending their hard earned cash on an unplayable game.

Im honestly not sure why you feel the need to defend the guy but you should probably save doing it for when it's justifiable.

Snookies124482d ago

No, why are you assuming that's why I said that? I never mentioned the PS4. It's that he was in favor of restrictive DRMs and was more interested in mobile devices than consoles (not just PS4). That's why I think he's backwards.

NewMonday4482d ago

"he’s more excited about the exploding mobile gaming category"

tells you a lot about him, another over-hyped developer.

jony_dols4482d ago

If it was Gabe Newell or Ken Levine commenting on the PS4, then I'd take it seriously. But McGee is a failed console dev with a sub-standard portfolio & little relevance in the industry.

@Knight_Crawler: Trolling PS4 articles as per usual, huh? I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for the 720 hardware; if the more credible Durango leaks are to be believed, it is less powerful than Sony's console. So you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot!

Hicken4482d ago

Comformasist? What?

No.

The guy is touting mobile games cuz that's what he's doing. It's not like he's speaking without bias; it's obvious that he is. And then he doesn't know any more about the PS4 than the rest of us here. Perhaps he's a little upset that Sony didn't come to him for advice?

morganfell4482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

I like the Alice games and think they are woefully underrated. I was playing the second one last week.

But do not mistake Synchronicity with true genius that perfoms over time and evolves.

The game industry is replete with persons who had one idea at the right place and time and the outcome was wonderful. But after that, well, little else.

TemplarDante4482d ago

Knight_Crawler
You have 80 disagrees and counting.
Maybe, you're wrong :)

Eddie201014482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

@Knight_Crawler

His comment was aimed at next generation consoles not just the PS4. Plus some people just have an agenda, much like many of the people commenting on this site.

Plus he spoke of a lot of things and the PS4 was a very small part of it, yet we get the tittle above just for hits.

KillrateOmega4482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

Nearly every time that I see you, you're stirring things up and trolling. Don't you have anything more productive to do, man?

"... I do enjoy the Alice games, but seriously... This guy seems to have things really backwards."

He never even mentioned the PS4 at all. Honestly, how did you even arrive at such a conclusion (or more appropriately, assumption)?

Old McGroin4482d ago

@ Eddie20101

"His comment was aimed at next generation consoles not just the PS4."

He was asked a direct question about the PS4 and he answered it:

"What are your thoughts on what Sony has shown with PS4?

I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality."

MysticStrummer4482d ago

"Lets me guess your opinion is based on the fact that he was not impressed with the PS4."

The same could be said about you, actually. The guy is focusing on mobile games, therefore he wants mobile gaming to continue doing well, therefore he'll downplay next gen consoles. His complaint about PS4 is that it offers little innovation in regards to control input. Of course he fails to expand on that in any way, so it's a pretty meaningless statement. Sony relied heavily on developer opinion while designing the PS4, so evidently many devs don't agree with him. Judging by industry reaction to the PS4 reveal, McGee is in the minority. Lastly, he says very little about PS4 at all, yet the headline implies differently. Another N4G special delivery.

Eddie201014482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

@old McGroin

One question in the article, and he ended his statement speaking of consoles in general.

Don't just quote the part you like, quote the whole statement.

"I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality. Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

It was a very small reply to the question that ended with next gen consoles in general not doing well according to him.

This small statement was the one they decided to name the article by just to get hits.

Maybe flash cards would help you understand better?

What innovation in mobile games makes him excited ? The Touch screen(not that great), acceloerometer, having a a front camera, consoles have them. I don't see any innovation in control on mobile devices. All that has been around for quite a while.

Like I said, he has an agenda.

andrewsqual4482d ago

Wow you would think that E3 has happened and the PS4 is out in a month the way you are doubting Sony.

NateCole4482d ago

"Maybe his expectations were higher than your and he was expecting allot more but thats not to say that he thinks the PS4 is bad, just that he had higher expectation from Sony who has a reputation of being the best when it comes to technological achievements"

lol! Like Sony did with the PS3?. Sony tried but they got burned by devs mostly PC devs because of it.

Cell is junk, Blu Ray is overkill. It cost too much blah blah blah.

Now that Sony have listened and made the PS4 more to their liking and will cost less they still are not happy.

BTW. He has got it backwards because console gaming is not going anywhere.

Gaming1014482d ago

Wow, really? There isn't a single serious developer who wasn't impressed by the enormous specs the PS4 delivers, and priced at likely around $500 it's an unbelievable bargain. The reason it won't have top of the line specs is because gamers cried the last time a console cost a measly $100 more than it historically cost on launch. If cost is that important to childish gamers, Sony cannot help but be backed into a corner with what specs it can deliver. You're lucky they bumped the GPU CPU combined RAM to 8GB rather than 4, I wouldn't expect something astronomical out of a $500 unit.

Dee_914482d ago

Lmao I didnt even read the article and I just guessed that he was gonna be into the mobile gaming market.Those nuts seem to always think alike.

Dagobert4482d ago

TL;DR.

Try posting less crap bro. Just a friendly tip, that's all.

TheSaint4482d ago

What's a 'comformasist'?

Old McGroin4481d ago

@ Eddie20101

Maybe flash cards would help me understand? Ah, I see you've already been reported as Offensive, someone got there before me.

Like I said, he was asked a DIRECT question about the PS4, just because you don't like his DIRECT answer to the question asked about the PS4 it doesn't give you the right to go around insulting people. Deal with it.

Omni-Tool4481d ago (Edited 4481d ago )

"innovation in control input" - I think he means touchscreen capabilities. With that said, he's an idiot. The PSVita will be the touchscreen for the PS3 with remote play as an added feature. There is a touchpad on the controller as well. What "innovation" is he looking for, augmented reality? The world isn't ready for AR to be just for a console. AR is best as eyewear with a mobile device and not for games but for information gathering and receiving.

Edit: I just realized that Knight_Crawler only has one bubble and he can't reply. I knew we were all trolls at heart.

TomOfAllTrades4481d ago

Wow you have a-lot of dislikes, perhaps you should think before you comment?

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zerocrossing4482d ago

It just seems like he said that to go against the grain... either that or he is really out of touch with the general gamer.

LostDjinn4482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

"I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality." - Does this mean he doesn't know anymore than the average Joe that watched the announcement? It seems to imply it.

"Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally." - Oh that's right. He makes mobile games.

Do the above statements make his opinion worthless? No.

Is it obvious he's promoting his medium (mobile casual games)? Absolutely.

He makes a living with casual games for a casual market. If you put these things in perspective it's usually easy to catch the reasons behind the statements.

MikeMyers4482d ago

Fro the article;
"Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

Biased view since he is involved in mobile gaming right now. Yes he has experience in both fields but I think the two will continue to co-exist.

"People need to relax a little and stop turning everything into World War III – Gamers vs. The Man. There are no winners in that scenario."

That I agree with but that's the nature of the beast on the internet. Not everything works like it's supposed to. Learn from those mistakes, just don't keep making them. We seen all the headaches from Diablo III so fans do have a right to be upset with SimCity. They have to figure it out, how do you curb piracy while not hurting the real consumer?

"At present it just looks like another distribution channel with not much to differentiate from other outlets (aside from sheer horsepower)."

I hope he's wrong but he may be right. We will probably see the same gameplay, the same ip's all being upgraded. I want to see more innovation. Seems like the innovation now is multiple screens but I don't want gimmicks and I imagine most of those games will be gimmicks. Some may indeed work very well but chances are not many.

ILive4482d ago

You say "innovation." What innovations are you speaking of? What do people mean by this? I am not trying to be an asshole, but if you were to make a game, how would you innovate it, moving away from traditional play. People forget that potiental gamers are born everyday. All genres will always be fresh. Seriously, what do you want them to do to "innovate," while being grounded in reality? Maybe I am lacking in imagination here.

MikeMyers4482d ago

I guess I want to see more fresh ideas. This generation has been so crowded with shooters and sequels. I don't want the extra horsepower to just re-skin the same games.

I'm interested in what the new PS4 controller will provide. All this Share stuff could be interesting but I'd like to see more than just being able to take snapshots and videos that we can upload to Facebook.

Anon19744482d ago

I'll never understand why I should care about this guy. He worked on shooters when shooters were new 20 years ago and since then has released underwhelming, mediocre title after underwhelming, medicore title. You want to be relevant? How about you let your products do the talking.

jimbobwahey4482d ago

Surprise surprise, another anti-Sony article from Forbes.

It's getting to the point now where there's obviously a very clear agenda behind this.

HaVoK3084482d ago

His name is American, but he has surrounded himself with communism for the past decade. What do you expect?

Aaroncls74482d ago

Opinions, fellas.

No need to tear the guy a new one just because he does not agree with most of us.

grimmweisse4482d ago

It's the Internet, people will tear people apartment regardless of the opinion.

kickerz4482d ago

Yeah I totally disagree with his comment about people are gonna choose either a powerful tablet or phone or console. Everyone has a phone, its a necessity, and I doubt phones/tablets will ever be a better gaming platform then a console.. iPhone/tablet games are fun when maybe at work for 5 mins but that's really it.I get bored of apps real quick.Soon as I get home it's console/pc for me. Way more fun/enjoyable. And I guess this would be the same for most gamers I think.

kenshiro1004482d ago

Hey look, its Knight Crawler on the attack yet again!

SilentNegotiator4482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

I might care if McGee had made any impressive games recently.

MASTER_RAIDEN4482d ago

I think they had something good going with the first alice game. suddenly EA took over and madness returns was yet another unreal engine 3 clone. Everything looked (and kind of played) like every other UE3 game ive played. definitely more disappointed by the 2nd one personally. Im only a few achievements away from a plat though, so maybe ill revisit someday.

either way, i think its safe to say that american Mcgee has no place to talk. the mans made TWO total games which carried somewhat positive reception at best. How about you sit down with the tech and really sink your teeth into what you have in front of you before you comment?

showtimefolks4482d ago

I don't have to be impressed but I am excited abut the possibilities. It's not just about graphics it's about games and taking them to next level. Imagine all gams having no load times or walk into any building you see

We still don't know a lot so lets wait till E3. I believe Sony will blow the roof off the E3 this year.

Starts the conference on time, Sony is famous for staring late but their last announcement conference was in time

Jack tretton on stage, let m welcome everyone to our conference thanks for being here, we are not here to talk about sale numbers or any iter stuff we gonna show you what matters most and that's games and our 1st game has been in development for a while and it will launch day one on PS4

last Guardian on stage demo. Release date announced
Jack back on stage and here is SIG with Santa Monica showing a new IP
Here is MO demo for Killzome
Here is on stage demo for Infamous
We are happy to announce GTA5 and bioshock will come out on PS4
Show 2-4 new IP's
David Jaffe on stage shows of new IP
Gabr on stage talks about Left for dead franchise but wait he isn't here to announce that, here is on stage DEMO for HALF LIFE 3
We are rebooting a old IP in a getaway
Before we go here is one more game and we have bought the IP from Sega Shenmue. 1-2 will be in HD collection, 3rd in development

Jack back on stage welcomes KAZ and PS4 will retail for $349 and $399

Jack asks us if we had enough but than lights go out and here comes RockStar on stage showing live demo of Ageny

jack comes back thanks us for being here but lights go out again no here comes Kingdom Hearts 3

Right after before show end we want to leave you with this and shows FF13 Aversus on PS3 and PS4

Thank you for being here PS4 will launch on September 19th

KAZ back on stage and asks Jack isn't he forgetting something and lights go out and on Huge Screen PS3 will retail for $149 from today and will come with god of war collection

Thank you

RealtorMDandDC4481d ago

He seems to be pushing his agenda....which it looks to be mobile and online games.

Kran4481d ago

Well he is American McGee. Most of his games are quite backwards xD

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jagiii4482d ago

Interesting take on SimCity and DRM from a PC guy.

aliengmr4482d ago

What "take"? All he said was basically "can't we all just get along". Then started plugging his own projects.

Claiming that China is leading in the battle against piracy is a pretty bold claim, and he doesn't even back it up.

clintagious6504482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

American McGee?? Who the hell is this idiot? He must sucked as a game dev cause this is the 1st ive heard of him lol.

xPhearR3dx4482d ago

You must have entered the gaming world this gen. Kids these days should do their research before spouting such silly comments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

majiebeast4482d ago (Edited 4482d ago )

No gamer is gonna skip consoles/pc for mobile games.

neoandrew4482d ago

Depends on the gamer, there are people that just don't like to play on pc/console in a AAA titles.

Casual gamers just play mobile games, they are simple, entertaining and fun.

No one should underestimate that.

KwietStorm_BLM4482d ago

And that's why many of "us" don't consider casual gamers to be "gamers." They're looked at as every day people who enjoy a little game here and there, and it doesn't matter where they get it. Casual and mobile games appeal to them because they're cheap, easy to pick up, and don't really require and other requisites. Most of them probably wouldn't consider themselves gamers in the same sense most of us do.

Godchild10204482d ago

I enjoyed Alice Madness returns. I would love to see a third one and maybe a port to the Vita with Cross Save.

DatNJDom814482d ago

*Enters Jaime Lannister* whoops.......

arronax-14482d ago

Like this?
youtube.com/watch?v=D-rwAEANT gI

InMyOpinion4482d ago

American McGee is overrated. European and Pan-Asian McGee are much better imo.

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted7d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast7d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay7d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted7d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34857d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK7d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor48d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7248d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7248d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7247d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr48d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation48d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde48d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50147d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer45d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6948d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave48d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit48d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno48d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit48d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay48d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv7248d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos48d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania48d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox48d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj48d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted48d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit48d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow148d ago (Edited 48d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania48d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox48d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning7748d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts48d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango48d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning7748d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts48d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit47d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning7748d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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