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Submitted by PoSTedUP 581d ago | opinion piece

Why Gran Turismo 6 Will be the Greatest Racing Simulator To Date

"It has been widely used amongst professional race car drivers and teams to train before being able to jump on the track in real life; they use Gran Turismo 5 to hone their driving skills and keep them sharp for when it’s time to hit the race. A comment from professional race car driver and instructor Tony Brakohiapa after being asked how Gran Turismo 5 stacks up compared to real life:" (Gran Turismo 6, polyphony digital, PS3, PS4)

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doctorstrange  +   581d ago
>_<
Zuperman  +   581d ago
goty
PoSTedUP  +   581d ago
ROTY, goty that year will go to whatever Naughty Dog will be releasing : P
HammadTheBeast  +   581d ago
Or Sony Santa Monica, or Media Molecule. Or David Cage's thing.
Jaqen_Hghar  +   581d ago
David Cage's thing. Aka old man on black screen looks around 2!
Washington-Capitals  +   581d ago
Uh... the Game of the Year will go to next Metal Gear Solid. MGS4 was hands down the most innovative and greatest game of the current generation. Kojima will deliver again with MGS5. But I bet if its announced its Multiplatform than it can no longer be GOTY since Sony Fanboys cannot accept that. The hypocrisy on this site is why I stopped posting for such a long time.
showtimefolks  +   581d ago
Lets see GT5 was really really good so if they can improve other aspects than it will be the best

GT5 got SIm aspect of racing game to perfection
Forza IMO has better online features so take a look at that and improve
Less cars but more detailed cars, instead of having 600 generic and 400 great looking ones maybe do 500 fully detailed dun to drive cars

Have a better career structure
Do include NASCAR but include seasons or career

Other than that I thought GT5 was an amazing game so it could only get better with tweaks to a proven system
JRivera92  +   581d ago
Gran Turismo 5 had to have been THE best racer I've played, ever! Sure it's not as Arcade-y as it's fellow Need For Speed or Burnout, but that's what separates it from the group. I have no doubt that Gran Turismo 6 will be even bigger and better in every way (well, other than Graphics since GT5 is just simply beautiful).
Skips  +   581d ago
Agreed, COMPLETELY NEW GAME after all the patches! Best racing sim on consoles.
neoandrew  +   581d ago
It is not simulator...

Real simulators are only on pc.
Reverent  +   581d ago
I cannot tell you how many hours I spent racing loops on the Daytona track in the exact same car... How the hell is Polyphony so good at making normally boring things into the definition of amazing?
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   581d ago
Perfecting a couple car models then importing PS2 quality cars for the rest of the game seemed kind of lazy (they could of at least bumped up the poly count)not to mention the crash physics are ridiculously lame.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Axe99  +   581d ago
There were definitely issues with GT5, but it's far and away the best sim-style racer on console. Unfortunately, Forza's handling model (close, but still clearly not at the same level) and AI (in particular - you'll see cars shoot off the track at corners, at the Expert level, it's laughable stuff) hold it back. GT could learn a thing or two from Forza's presentation, though. GT's crash physics aren't great, but Forza's could do with some work as well.

As for this article, though, it's a waste of internet space, and poorly written to boot. Plus, past performance is no guarantee of the future - GT5 may be top dog now, but Forza 5 might be top dog next go-round. Either way, competition between the two of them should keep us racing fans happy :).
Dee_91  +   581d ago
wasnt aware that the buggati veyron was in gt4.. nor the lamborghini countach and diablo.
The standards come from psp not ps2.The models had a higher poly count in the psp version but relatively the same textures thus the low res textures, tho theyve fixed a bit of the textures.But really its like putting liptstick on a pig at this point.Point being they arent ps2 cars but they arent completely current gen either they are in between
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riverstars86  +   581d ago
Gotta agree with neoandrew, but Gran Turismo and Forza are great console simulators.
Snookies12  +   581d ago
Why will it be? Because it's the next entry in the series maybe?
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xJumpManx  +   581d ago
Greatest Sim racer possibly. When it takes a decade to make one release of the game it better be good.
JRivera92  +   581d ago
Lmao deadass, though I doubt it'd be anywhere near a piece of crap like the new Aliens, 6 years in development? HA, what a waste of time.
PoSTedUP  +   581d ago
duke nukem... lol
Cocozero  +   581d ago
"On a PS Platform" Forgot to add that.

Forza is the definitive racing sim. GT hasn't even surpassed Forza 2 let alone 3 and 4.
PoSTedUP  +   581d ago
^sarcasm at its finest.
jimbobwahey  +   581d ago
It's one thing to start some petty Forza/GT slapfight, but to go so far as to declare Forza the definitive racing sim and ignore the wealth of incredibly well-made racing simulators on the PC is complete madness.

I mean Forza doesn't even simulate varying weather conditions for a start, it's not even in the same league as the more respected heavyweights of the genre.

Then you have flaws such as Forza's active steering assist (hardcoded and separate from the user-controlled driving assists) that sabotage the franchises claims of being a simulator.

Is Forza a fun game? Of course it is! Is it the definitive racing sim? Absolutely not, it lags way too far behind the pack to even be considered a simulator in the first place.
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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   581d ago
Funny how one of the only times review scores DON'T matter, is when it comes to being Forza being better than GT this gen. It's obvious that it is overall better this gen, version after version, yet for the SDF, reviews don't matter on this one.

Of course, LBP reviews matter, Uncharted reviews matter... But for some reason, GT gets a free pass with it's rocking overall score of 84 or 85, or wherever it's at these days.

But GT has the weather and night!!! Still didn't help it review better.
Eyeco  +   581d ago
^^^^^

Forza is a better game overall but GT5 is a better simulator, I think thats what people mean if you read the comments people are comparing the two based on the simulation aspect.

And even still your on an article with the playstation brands biggest franchise, what on earth did you expect ?
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AnimeAvenger  +   580d ago
saracasm up until 4. Forza 4 is definitely better than GT5 coming from someone who owns both.
Skips  +   581d ago
"Forza is the definitive racing sim."

I dunno, Forza feels pretty damn arcadey compared to GT if you ask me. lmao.

Maybe the best racing game on Xbox but definitely not the best racing SIMULATOR on consoles.
Shadow Flare  +   581d ago
Lets be fair here, forza seems to be under a little stick here. The car physics in Forza do match, or are at least close to what Kazunori Yamauchi has produced in the past with his games

Motor Toon GP to name one
Shadow Flare  +   581d ago
swoosh....joke under the radar...
fabod86  +   581d ago
Coco it's better for you to still with Chanel because gaming isn't for you. ;)
Shadow Flare  +   581d ago
+ "Funny"
Me-Time  +   580d ago
haha I knew it was a joke so don't lose all hope for humanity.
Snookies12  +   581d ago
You're delusional... You realize this yes? The Forza series has sold "slightly" more than the GT series this generation. Why? Because there have been what? Like 5 Forza games this generation? Whereas Gran Turismo has made 2 games. One of which wasn't even considered a full game... Keep trollin' dude, keep trollin'.

I like Forza, I really do. It's a great racer, but it certainly isn't a racing "sim". It's much more of an arcade experience.
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riverstars86  +   581d ago
Sorry, as an owner of both games, I couldn't possibly say that Forza isn't a simulator. It is definitely not an arcade racer, please take off your Sony goggles.
Snookies12  +   580d ago
@riverstars86 - Dude, I've played Forza 4, and I owned Forza 3. I put in at least 40+ hours into the 3rd installment. I really did love the game, but it is NOT a simulator. It certainly has sim aspects, but it's infused with quite a bit of arcade elements (which really do work for the series). I'm saying in terms of simulation alone, it doesn't really compete with the GT series my friend.
Axe99  +   581d ago
Coco, there's just no comparison if you're looking for a sim between GT5 and Forza 4. Forza 4 is a very enjoyable game, and arguably a better 'game' than GT5. However, it's a step below in physics and handling, and a generation behind in sim-style AI. While I was playing Forza on the weekend in a race, in third place, I watched first and second both fly off the final corner at Monza into the wall. It was 'only' the expert series, but as long as the AI behaves like this (and continues to rubber-band), Forza will never be a racing sim - it'll just be an enjoyable racing game :).
DOMination-  +   581d ago
Im not going to enter this pointless debate but your point about the AI is interesting. For me the AI on GT is terrible. They all just follow the driving line and never make mistakes.

On forza 3/4 if you put pressure on the drivers in front of you, that's when they go off the track. I thought that was pretty cool imo
Me-Time  +   580d ago
"They all just follow the driving line and never make mistakes."

No, it's not like that. Coming from someone who isn't a moron that repeats cliche BS about GT's shortcomings.
Axe99  +   580d ago
@ DOM - it depends what kind of game you're looking for. If you watch actual motorsport, the vast majority of the time, drivers are actually on the driving line. The AI in GT5 does overtake each other (and you), and deviates from the driving line to do so (better than Forza, I might add - the number of times the AI in that game has tried to drive through me....).

However, the number of overtakes/lap is much closer to the actual number you'd see in actual motorsports - ie, it's exceptional sim AI, but actual motorsports is a very technical and not necessarily razzle-dazzle experience.

Forza, on the other hand, jazzes everything up - even on Professional (which I'm up to now), drivers regularly fly off corners - something you almost never see in actual motorsports unless there are horrendous weather conditions or actual collisions. They also rubber-band terribly - I find I'll blow past the field in the first half of a lap, but it's impossible to get too far in front. Similarly, if I do come off on a corner, I never find myself that far behind. It makes for a far more enjoyable, mass-market game, but it's not good sim AI.

Hence I'd argue Forza is a better game (it's menus and progression also trumps GT5's by a handy margin, and it's got more variety and a better sense of pacing, and there's nothing wrong at all with its racing mechanics, as long as you don't pretend they're a sim), but that GT5 is a far better sim.

Just depends what you're looking for. Both are very enjoyable experiences. I had the misfortune of going into Forza after reading about how great a sim it was, so my first two hours were "WTF?! Who in the blazes thinks this is a sim?" (not unlike my experience with Shift 1 and 2, which also failed hard to live up to Slightly Mad's claims of them being a sim racer), but now that I've adjusted my expectations, and am playing it for what it is, Forza is still an exceptional racing game - it's just not an exceptional racing sim. It doesn't need to be, either - clearly Forza's audience enjoy what they get, and that's what we want (gaming is about fun, after all :)) - they just shouldn't fool themselves into thinking that they're getting a serious sim.
neoandrew  +   581d ago
Thy are both not simulations.

Real racing simulator are only on pc.
silverbeld  +   581d ago
What?

Can you name some racing simulator games on pc?

As far I know there is none near as great as GT.
neoandrew  +   581d ago
silverbeld

There IS NO ONE ON ps3 or xbox 360, just NONE.

Grand Turismo is not an simluator, nor forza, they are just arcade...

REAL RACING SIMULATORS PC ONLY: (And only with WHEEL)

iRacing

rFactor

GTR

Live For Speed

Professional simulators, not arcade, and as GT in not simulator it isn't great, it is just not this kind of game, as an arcade it is pretty good i would say.
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Y_5150  +   581d ago
You ever wonder why nobody is agreeing with you? I would consider that a sign...
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Hicken  +   581d ago
Stop it, dude. Just stop.

You know how much of a sim GT is?

IT MAKES PROFESSIONAL RACERS.

YEARLY, WORLDWIDE, Polyphony sponsors a competition to make GT players into REAL RACE CAR DRIVERS.

What kind of "not simulation" does that?

Trying too hard only makes you look like a fool.
neoandrew  +   581d ago
Hicken

I'm talking real world car physics and dynamics, gt/forza are just no real simulation.

There are pc car simulators that you can't even begin to play if you don't have a wheel.

You play games like GT/forza with a PAD and still say it is real car simulation? (the real real simulation)

Now that is just utterly wrong and kind of funny.

IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT IT MAKES PROFESSIONAL RACERS, THE GAME IS NOT AN SIMULATION IT IS PLAIN ARCADE.

But i have forget that n4g is a ps3 fanbase, so GT WILL ALWAYS be the best... no matter what kind of absolutely non debatable proof you would show AS I HAVE SHOWN...
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Axe99  +   580d ago
That's a very odd position neoandrew - PC as a platform is a poor one for racing, given it's native controls (mouse/kb) do it far worse than a controller. Clearly, it's better with a wheel, but some of the best gaming racing wheels are made with the PS3 in mind. There's a reason for this ;). That's not to say there aren't exceptional simulators on PC as well, but GT5 _is_ a sim, and a very good one at that. I'm not saying GT is the best - I haven't played all of the games on PC - but GT is most definitely a quality sim.

Yes - GT has assists that can be put on to make it more accessible, but with the assists off, the physics are very, very good, something which has been verified by professional racers.

I understand at this stage of the console cycle that PC gamers are feeling threatened - this has been happening for two decades. Don't worry - PC will keep going strong, as will console. You'll still get your great racing sims, we'll still get ours. That you get more than one is something to be happy about as well :).
DigitalRaptor  +   581d ago
GT is and always has been the better driving sim. That is what it says on the box and that is how it plays. "Boring" to some, but as described. The features speak for themselves.

The reason Forza has been higher rated is because it's reviewed from most sources as a better "game" and more shallow reasons like menu interface and system depth marking GT down.

Granted, Turn 10 have always done an amazing job, but they've always been making a game, whereas Polyphony have always been making a driving sim.
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silverbeld  +   581d ago
@Coco

What on earth are you smoking?

Keep living in a box and you will miss the best. Go explore and you will get richer.
MysticStrummer  +   581d ago
Forza is a sim/arcade hybrid. It may lean more toward sim than arcade, but it still has arcade elements. GT is all sim, and the best of it's kind on consoles. End of story.
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zoks310  +   580d ago
@Coco
Is this guy for real, no really?
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Nick212004  +   581d ago
Looking forward to it :)
Objective  +   581d ago
Oh please let's just wait till it releases before we decide. 5 was a major letdown despite the hype.
deafdani  +   581d ago
Is this an article? Because it read more like an ad, making grandiloquent statements about GT5, and about a game that's not even been revealed yet, much less released.
TheFamous1  +   581d ago
Was this "article" written by a sixth grader? It even has a bold title stating that GT6 WILL be the best racing simulator, but then goes on to close the article by saying "GT6 SHOULD dominate.." - will it or will it not? The author doesn't even seem to be sure.
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InTheZoneAC  +   581d ago
I was disappointed in that the car customization in gt5 was very lacking

-some cars have some wheels, others don't
-some cars can't be painted
-some wheels can't be painted
-wheels don't list their weights
-no option for wider/narrower wheels/tires
-no option to turn up boost
-bov sounds are very weak
-wastegate sounds are very weak or nonexistant
-no option for lhd or rhd, it's whatever the car is set to
-no option for different color exhaust tips(black, polished, burnt, etc.)
-no option for different colored lug nuts(chrome, black, gold, etc.)
-no option for different compound brake pads
-no option for different style rotors(when everyone gets hands on experience that cross drilled doesn't actually help then that'll make over half the car owners smarter)

This is my favorite racing game, I just wish it had more.

And keep the customization realistic as stated above, no bs drivetrain conversion like in forza where everyone is breaking lap records with AWD whatever car they see others using

I know it's possible to do this, but it's the last thing anyone would do to a car and have it handle well.
SAE  +   581d ago
True. But they already made sections for them and the updates brought some new things for them. They just need to support them more and make some kind of a trick to make all customization available for all the cars. I bet GT6 will fix this and many similar stuff like the engine sounds ^^ . But people need to realise sim is all about the gameplay. If the sound of the car isn't good then it's not a big deal. The gameplay what matters most in sim games. I'm not expecting anything. What ever PD bring us it's day one for sure..
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Derekvinyard13  +   581d ago
Agree
jerethdagryphon  +   580d ago
Uh most the style stuff comes from the aftermarket world of tuning which is not what gt5 represents also if your driving in the game noone pays attention to little details on your car make model and color thats it

As for crash physis it has minor damage only for 3 reasons
1. Physics calculating aerodynamic changes realtime based off deforming mesh and air currents would take a lot of cpu cycles its also not needed . If it happened in a race chances are youd retire the car rather then press on especially in high speed stuff.

2. Companys dont want high detail cars showing damage. Bad for the iimmage.

3. Crashes go aigainst nature of sims
pedroyamato  +   581d ago
Most overrated racing game series ever.

I know cause I own GT5 and the game is boring as hell.

GT was fun on the ps1/ps2 when it was about amazing gameplay with good graphics and not the opposite.
PoSTedUP  +   581d ago
you... y-you have one bubble.
JRivera92  +   581d ago
Lol, and I thought I was bad with my 3 xDD
takohma  +   581d ago
lmfao wow that was funny. bubble for you. we need more of your humor here lol.

on topic I still havnt beaten GT5 lol. I got pretty sad after a friend of mine kept beating me and felt discouraged lol. I will come back to it one day before GT6 comes out hopefully lol.
nosferatuzodd  +   581d ago
Tell the truth you're an Xbox fanboy in disguise
Lol nice try dude,try a little bit harder next time if you think gt is boring then maybe you're not a racing game fan or you never played the game and just trolling
Bathyj  +   581d ago
I think GT6 should skip PS3.

I dont think it will be a be enough of a leap over GT5, that was already so damn good, and still getting better all the time.

GT6 needs to be a big improvement to show off PS4. They need to finally add the damage and cockpit views. I dont really care, the game is all about the driving for me but it will shut up the haters, but then I'm sure they'll complain that they cant SMELL the burning rubber.

Besides, a 10 million seller on PS3 would be great for Sony, but a 5 million seller that sells 5 million PS4's would be worth 10 times that to them. They need to get out of the gate running this time, with a bang, not a whimper.
takohma  +   581d ago
Yeah a GT6 at launch would ensure me to purchase a ps4 day one. I initially planned to wait a bit before I got one. P roll focus more on the games I have for my Vita. But if this happens I will have to get it day 1.
Tr10wn  +   581d ago
Im kinda lost in this GT6 thing, is this game already announced?? i havent hear anything abut GT6 outside of N4G and i cant find anything either.
josephayal  +   581d ago
Why not? gran turismo 5 is best racing game ever
tachy0n  +   581d ago
the need for speed franchise disagrees.
aaron5829  +   581d ago
people who are into sims. disagree and laughs at you.
tachy0n  +   581d ago
@aaron5829

read josephayal comment again word by word, there is a reason why i mention need for speed.

since when gran turismo is a simulator?

i love gran turismo to death(was the first video game i ever played)

dude dont be sheep and claim nonsense.

a REAL simutator is for example RFactor, play it and you will see...
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fsfsxii  +   581d ago
The Milking Speed franchise disagrees? lol, NFS was good in the PS2, GC gen, now its just being milked to death
Gamer-40  +   581d ago
Yes, i hope. Gran Turismo 6 greatest racing simulator to date for Ps4.
chukamachine  +   581d ago
Check this vid out, the guy has some interesting points.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
guitar_nerd_23  +   581d ago
I hope they can simulate decent visual damage on ps4. You can still be lazy and bumper car your way round if you get desperate. It needs more of a penalty for crashes.
InTheLab  +   581d ago
What could be worse than losing? You crash in Turismo, you lose. You can't make that time up.

You crash in Forza, what's the penalty? You rewind and there is no penalty.

You crash in Shift 2, what's the penalty? Cosmetic damage and you lose the race.

What other penalty could you want?
NaiNai   581d ago | Spam
Lvl_up_gamer  +   581d ago
You crash in Turismo, you hit start, restart race....
thebudgetgamer  +   581d ago
Looks like someone bought a Jump To Conclusions Mat.
PurpHerbison  +   581d ago
Won't be better than RuneScape, that's for sure.
horndog  +   581d ago
That can only be possible the next forza doesnt launch in that same year and if they dont copy and paste cars from a ps2 game. Lastly lets have real dash cams for ALL cars. What is that black shadowy sh!t supposed to be?? A silouhette of a car dashboard?? Lol and we waited six years for that.
Good_news_every1   581d ago | Spam
izumo_lee  +   581d ago
People can debate whether GT or Forza is the better game all they want but one thing nobody can argue is that GT is the game of choice if inspiring drivers are looking to make it to the big time.

Time & time again GT is the game of choice for professionals & is a genuine user tool for many real life racers. Nobody can argue that GT has spawn a champion driver in Lucas Ordonez, as well as give the likes of Jordan Tresson and Jann Mardenborough the opportunity to have their dreams come true.

The results speak for themselves. The Gran Turismo series may be critized by game media/gamers alike for whatever reason but the truth of the matter is the series creates real life race drivers & real life champions. What other racing series has that acclaim?
megamanX2  +   581d ago
"Why Gran Turismo 6 Will be the Greatest Racing Simulator To Date"

I think he means why it will be the same boring repetitive simulator to date.
takohma  +   581d ago
We need a one bubble police in here for the likes of you's lol.
Feldman9000  +   581d ago
iracing. rfactor.
Zha1tan  +   581d ago
It is not a simulator...
MultiConsoleGamer  +   581d ago
The GT series has always been the best racing simulator franchise.

Unfortunately games like Forza and Real Racing are watering down the market.
NaiNai   581d ago | Spam
Psychonaut  +   581d ago
Gran Turismo 6 has a hill to climb with Drive Club around the bend.
FRAKISTAN  +   581d ago
Was there any DOUBT I mean really was there any DOUBT????

I bet Forza will be better than.....I can't even complete the sentence HAHAHAAHAHAHA
SDF Repellent  +   581d ago
Oh please! Predicting the future, I see. Forza is currently the best ranking Console racing sim franchise. So it is still the king. Both both of these console sims can't hold a candle to PC heavyweights like Simraceway, Live For Speed, rFactor2, or iRacing. LOL at this article.
fsfsxii  +   581d ago
lol, forza, Steering Assist and shit, and people still count it as a simulator, GT is the king of simulator games
maniacmayhem  +   580d ago
You mean the steering option that can be turned off...
level 360  +   581d ago
A friend of mine who didn't know how to drive learned the very basics of how to while playing GranTurismo.

So I don't agree about real-sim can only be found on PC alone because I'm sure a lot of people out there got to pass their licence tests' with some help from playing GranTurismo and then applying those set skills in a more coherent and quicker way on actual roads beside a driving instructor/or their parents.
jerethdagryphon  +   580d ago
So did I. Learned corner8ng and dirt driving as well as spaical perception which I used while my dad was teaching me he was shocked at how smooth and how well I drove up and down the mountain pass .
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