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Why We Are Taking a Wait and See Approach To The new Xbox System

Gareth at Skewed and Reviewed has posted an opinion piece on why he has chosen to take a wait and see approach to the new Xbox console regardless of the features and titles it offers. He cites past issues with box Xbox consoles and other factors as the reasons behind his decision.

alousow4065d ago

not lot of core gamers happy about the next xbox. Cuz we all kno its going to be more kinect.

aviator1894065d ago

how exactly does anyone know anything?
for all we know, they're all just rumors.

are you really going to let rumors be a substitute for hard truth?

Cam9774065d ago

Look at the leaked documents SuperDAe received 20 years in prison for; do you really think MS would destroy somebody's life over the release of a fake document? It was real. Now, compare that to the PS4's specs and it becomes clear that the next Xbox is notably inferior to SONY's beast of a system.

Moreover, look at what the Ps4 has; video sharing (Youtubers will love this); instant game streaming; amazing Vita integration; amazing specs and a brilliant launch line-up. The Ps4 is going to be incredibly hard to beat in terms of what is up for grabs. Due to this people have focused on the PS4.

zebramocha4065d ago

@cam I wouldn't say "noticeably inferior" but they diverge on what their system is meant to do.

Enemy4065d ago

"How exactly does anyone know anything?"

You're delusional if you think Microsoft aren't going to expand their Kinect focus next gen. Simply in denial as it is the most obvious thing we could safely assume about the next Xbox.

knowyourstuff4065d ago

We have things called analysts, and they use company strategies to predict what companies will do. Microsoft has clearly been trying to compete with Apple and Google, as their executives have already stated. It isn't just Sony and Nintendo that Microsoft wants to steal market share from. In order to do this, Microsoft wants to cater to Apple and Google, meaning more social networking integration, more casual games similar to what you see on phones and tablets, more Kinect, more apps, more things outside of just hardcore gaming.

This is an effort to steal market share and the audiences from Google and Apple. Kinect was created to steal market share from Nintendo. What you're seeing is a company that wants to steal market share from everyone, and such you see the same strategy utilized on the 360 to continue on. Why would microsoft change a working strategy? They've sold a ton of consoles and stole a ton of Sony's market share away from them.

This is what's known as analyzing the market. Get it? Good.

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BitbyDeath4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

@Cam977, specs can evolve over time.
The main concerns over SuperDAe's reveal is certain features like having to install every game to the HDD and Kinect required to always be turned on etc.

Guess we'll all find out either next month or E3.

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princejb1344065d ago

dude we just dont know anything about the next xbox
what if MS announces xbox live is going to be free next gen
what if they announce them developing new studios or dropping kinect because not many people seem interested in it
until ms announces the next xbox its specs and the kind of games it will be offering(expecting more halo and gears) we just dont know anything

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princejb1344065d ago

@kratos kills

by everyone i guess you mean you
i refused to buy the 360 because i was not going to pay for xbox live. To me it just wasnt worth it

if it gets free is a good improvement and maybe gamers wont be as pissed all the time by calling people fanboys or n****s all the time in a online game

DigitalRaptor4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

Exactly what Kratos_Kills said.

Look at the facts. Microsoft have charged their fans $50-60 per year for the past 10 years for what is essentially the ability to use your own bandwidth (Internet provider subscription). Basic online gameplay is run using P2P technology which is not on Microsoft servers, but.. in fact look it up yourselves, you'll learn more.

If Microsoft make XBL free to play online (which they should, and it would be a GREAT thing for the industry), they would have to explain why they've charged you $600 over the past 10 years and they're now enabling the service for free. That can't be good for their PR, but it HAS to be done to move the industry in a positive direction and treat gamers with the respect they deserve.

The same goes for accessing services like Hulu, Facebook, Netflix, YouTube, etc. There's no excuse under the sun they could use to justify years of these unjustifiable charges, that most people would love not to exist.

Regardless of great games and services (which are important), their next console needs to have free online, fair services and hardware reliability as paramount, for me to consider investing. That mentality doesn't make you a fanboy, it makes you a smart, strong-willed consumer.

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@ Knight_Crawler (below)

Did you even read it? Where's the doom? Where did he say he hated Xbox? Did you miss the part where he said that his site will pick up the next Xbox regardless, but since they are a smaller site they don't always have the funds to get all or expect review-consoles for free?

"A real journalist or gaming website would buy all the consoles including the Wii U regardless because they have to experience everything and give us the news without being bias."

A film critic has to watch everything otherwise they are biased? You have to watch Piranha 3DD to know that Inception is a great film?

And I guess you think that all journalists are run by people working for huge outlets like IGN and GameSpot, right? They can instantly afford all consoles, rather than feeding their family and eating, right? Not all journalists are those of large scale advertising dollar status, with departments for each console like the aforementioned big ones.

Do you remember when people like yourself laughed off Paul Gale Network for revealing PlayStation All Stars before anyone else, then called Title Fight? http://paulgalenetwork.com/...

It's not just large sites that have industry sources. Where do you think the people who post on NeoGaf and Reddit get their genuine leaked information from, when they're nothing but a username?

givemeshelter4065d ago

@alousow
You're not happy with the next Xbox because...you know nothing about it?
Only on N4G.COM...Making assumptions based on...nothing. LOL

Bathyj4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Actually it MS's pattern of behavior that has me taking a waiting and see attitude.

I dont really care what the hardware is like, I'm sure it will be more than capable. If its a little bit better or a little bit worse than PS4, it doesnt really matter to me.

What matters is MS's direction, being more concerned about casuals and Kinect, or apps for watching tv and movies than worrying about core gamers and only pushing their staple franchises over and over instead of offering anything new.

Thats why I dont think I'm interested in XB3 until they change their attitude and win me back. Thats based on the way MS has done business for the last 4 years and thats clear for everyone to see, not based on speculation about rumours, so I might be making assumptions, but theyre not based on nothing.

Knight_Crawler4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

What is wrong with this website sknr.net that they keep submitting the same negative Xbox articles?

http://n4g.com/news/1189326...

"Why the Playstation 4 and Not The New Xbox System Is the One We are Getting at Launch"

We get it you dont like MS or the XBOX...do you really have to keep submitting garbage to convince us to join your crusade and make the 720 a failure?

Posted by GarethVK - "We have talked with third-party developers who work on games for both systems. They have told us that while both have nice features, the PS 4 is a better system with more power and features."

You and your websiet are a disgrace to the gaming industry and the reason why the world does not take gaming serious.

A real journalist or gaming website would buy all the consoles at launch including the Wii U regardless because they have to experience everything and give us news without being bias.

Gareth I hope the few hits you get on your website was worth your integrity and dignity.

Garethvk4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

Where does it says we do not have all the consoles or will not be buying the new one? We had Wii U day 1, we will be getting the New Xbox. I am simply stating that we have had nothing but issues with the Xbox systems since day one and when they finally gave us a stable unit, I was not that impressed with what they offered nor the support provided by Microsoft. As such, we are taking a wait and see approach with the new one. Can you honestly say the Red Ring of Death was not an issue and that Microsoft did not handle the issue correctly?

Derekvinyard134065d ago

I feel Sony has the jump, might see Xbox at E 3

AngelicIceDiamond4065d ago

@alousow is a a trolling parrot who says the same thing over and over. "720 is kinect" "its all kinect" "no core games just kinect" blah, blah troll yadda yadda.

Of course Kinect is making a comeback next gen its about HOW it will make a comeback. MS had a bad year with Kinect only titles last year I'm sure they realized that now and will implement it in a different way.

So can we get smart and make realistic assumptions about MS and Kinect? Of course not its N4G...

Gildarts4064d ago

Do not believe this guy he's a liar he's not a real journalist, real journalist wait till the product is actually released before they judge it. The Xbox 720 is not even revealed yet, for all we know it doesn't even exist. He knows nothing he's just going of of rumors. Real journalist buy the console at launch even if it's not as good as the other one.

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Garethvk4065d ago

They need to do more with it. As you can see, we had several issues with the Xbox and had it not been for Dance Central, we would likely not have given the 360 another chance. That is really the only thing we play on it now aside from Halo 4. I will try the new Gears though.

greenpowerz4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

How many times is this dude going to basically post the same crap? It's just attacks with ps3 fanboy talking points disguised as concern. Just an excuse to preach fanatical rhetoric.

We get it people on that site don't like xbox and will wait for their/people's socks to be blown off before they stop the anti MSFT crusade.

We understand. You're excited about PS4 and you'll do anything to stop MSFT from topping Sony again. It's obvious ps3 fanboys are stealth trolling trying to condition what people should expect from the 720 in a in vain effort.

He keeps talking about past xbox issues that were fixed many years ago preaching soft anti MSFT scripture that is double standard at best. He probably got PS3 without thinking about PS2 issues. It's clear some Sony fans will be trying to use fear mongering and scare tactics in New smear campiengs. This is a back up plan just in case MSFT shows Sony up

If Sony had any games in 2012 especially during the holdiday I imagine PS3 fanboys would have more to do them chest beat over the savior PS4.

All excited about games and specs that may or may not come to fruition due to Sony constantly over promising and under delivering. Boasting Sony games and the supposed lack of MSFT games when Sony prematurely announces games for hype having to can them or repeatedly delay them.

Garethvk4065d ago

Get over yourself and go play Halo 4. Most people agreed with my PS 4 post yersterday, your in the vocal minority.

aviator1894065d ago

Ok...I didn't have anything against you with your earlier submission or even this submission as it's all really just your opinion, but your reply to greenpowerz comes off as a bit...rude for someone who has his own website and attempts to be professional in method.

Telling someone to beat it and "go play halo 4" just because he or she is in the "vocal minority" is cheeky and disrespectful, imo.

SignifiedSix914065d ago

*You're.

for being a journalist, you should know the differences between "your" and "you're".

Gildarts4064d ago

Gareth stop lying, you are not a journalist. Just stop it dude. Most people agreed with you because N4G is 60% made of PS4 fanboys. For a "Journalist" you are really unprofessional. Stop submitting the same posts. stop writing articles based on nothing. Stop just stop. You're a disgrace to game journalism.

DigitalRaptor4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

Here we go again with the insecure rantings.

Basically anyone who doesn't share the same affection for Microsoft business tactics as you is considered a ps3 fanboy. Ignoring the fact that most of us game across the spectrum. I play PC, I have played Xbox in the past, same with Nintendo and Sega etc. I'm used to open standards and business practice that isn't present in the Xbox ecosystem. The fact that I love PlayStation is enough for most people on here to call me a fanboy even though I game on multiple systems. So to you, anyone who has any doubt in Microsoft is a fanboy? You're ridiculous.

MS have done questionable things this generation and even last generation's Xbox, so it's normal to be questioning of them with their next box. It's normal, and I think even the die hard Xbox fans should be questioning why it costs $60 per year to access the P2P functionality of game's you've already spent money on, and why it costs money to access Facebook, Twitter and YouTube etc. You should also be questioning their motives on rushing out hardware irrespective of reliability and also be questioning their direction in terms of treating the Xbox as a casual entertainment machine rather than gaming. They have yet to prove their direction, but there's nothing wrong with holding back when you've been burned once before.

What Gareth says is true and his opinion and decision based on past experience with Xbox. It's smarter to ask questions than blindly follow, but it's clear you prefer that.

"You're excited about PS4 and you'll do anything to stop MSFT from topping Sony again."

And you're scared that Sony actually are in a position in which that might happen, even going as far as pretending that "on paper" specs are lies, and that not showing the plastic exterior of the game means the console doesn't exist, which is laughably desperate.

"If Sony had any games in 2012 especially during the holdiday I imagine PS3 fanboys would have more to do them chest beat over the savior PS4."

Sony had more retail games in 2013 than Microsoft. Twisted Metal, Starhawk, LBP Karting, Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One, Tales of Graces f, MLB 12: The Show, Jak & Daxter/Ratchet & Clank HD, Yakuza: Dead Souls, PS All Stars Battle Royale. Even one of their download games, Journey, won best game of the year from multiple outlets and beat out Halo 4. Keep living in fantasy. In fact Sony bring out more games on PS3, with even more platforms to consider, whilst MS bring out less games with only one platform to consider.

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Feel free to critisize, but I am keeping an open mind to the new Xbox, whilst remaining conscious of the strategies that have developed on Microsoft's part. If I have to pay to access the online parts of games I already own then it's an absolute NO. The games could be spectacular, and I'd still abide by my morals, as a consumer.

Karpetburnz4064d ago

@greenpowerz

Its Ironic that youre bashing someone else for hating on the next Xbox when youre just a pathetic Xbox fanboy yourself who hates Sony and PS4, looking through all your recent comments it seems your just a Micosoft troll, you even troll on Playstation articles.

You have no right for calling out someone as Sony fanboy when youre the biggest Xbot troll on this site.

solidworm4065d ago

Again another solid piece from someone who actually looks beneath the surface. Excellent stuff.

Gimmemorebubblez4065d ago

I think this article raises valid points, the Xbox has had its fair share of problems but I would still reserve my judgement for when the Xbox 720 is unveiled. As I've said before Microsoft is successful for a reason so don't discount them just yet.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7218h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle5h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga5h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1018h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac7h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1016h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 13h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 10h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 5h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 1h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 13h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic23h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9022h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 13h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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