Skewed and Reviewed have posted an opinion piece stating that the Playstation 4 and not the new Xbox is the system that they will be picking up at launch.
They cite past issues with the Xbox such as paying to play games and the red ring of death as factors why they will take a wait and see approach with the new offering from Microsoft.
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Also the articles states that they will take a wait and see approach before they buy the 720 but are willing to buy the PS4 with knowing if Sony will charge for the new online experience or keep it free or how much the console will cost.
People need to relax and wait to see what both will show after E3.
I'd say that last group is the reason 360 will end up in 3rd place, if it's not there already. People who waited this long to buy a PS3 or 360 did so mainly because of price, so they won't want to pay extra to access online play. Because of that, most of the people that helped PS2 sell so many more units after PS3 launched will buy a PS3 when the price gets low enough. Those late adopters who also buy based on quality games will see that one side has more exclusive GotY winners and graphics awards.
Those who buy every console may not understand it, but it is possible to have made your next gen console purchase decision already, based on the past. New info from MS can always change things though.
I'm happy with Sony's software support and free online gaming as of now so as long as they keep this up with the PS4, I will pick it over xbox 720 without hesitation! especially if they release near the same time frame as each other.
i still refuse to pay a subscription service for xbox live
yea xbox had the best online experience this gen but they lacked in games that i just didnt like
i could honestly care less about the specs as long as the games are fun and look decent
Microsoft has had ulterior movies and doesn't seem to care that much about gaming. The Xbox is a Trojan horse for something else.
Personally, i'll be buying several of each at launch. Plenty of people out there too stupid to preorder.
@kingmushroom: Those "diverse first party exclusives" didn't start showing up on ps3 for a long time, buddy.
@knowyourstuff: umm..8 years is rushing? also, see hypocrisy comment.
@insomnium2: what psycho, victim world are you living in? the media has always had a love affair with sony and nobody ever said 360 was more powerful.
i can't believe how swamped n4g is in fanboys.
We have talked with third-party developers who work on games for both systems. They have told us that while both have nice features, the PS 4 is a better system with more power and features.
It's good to hear this coming from a real journalist. Charging $600 again would be foolish on Sony's part and something I've believed wouldn't be repeated. Again, DigitalRaptor has been pushing the notion that Sony will never charge for the ability to use your own Internet bandwidth for online gaming, but I was met with "Sony are losing money and need to charge for online". To which I replied "they have their business model in PS+ and will only continue growing as the years go on".
So thanks for confirming this again.
PS4 is looking to be a great thing for the industry - that's gamers AND developers. I'm looking forward to seeing the anti-Sony fanboys to pull things from their asses to try and downplay what looks for be something amazing.
What I know is that charging for online play is going to catch up with Microsoft at some point, and they won't have the mistakes of their staunchest competitor to lean on since Sony are in Viper mode. All we need are some brave journalists to expose the truth about paying for XBL and free apps etc.
@ Gildarts, I only have to look at your Microsoft defense comment history to understand why you would attack Gareth like that. A real journalist, in fact, gets their hands dirty and talks to the people. I'm not talking about corrupt members of the press, but real journalists who do what they can to seek truth. And real journalists don't always have the money to afford everything at once. Not every journalist outlet has the budget of say IGN or GameSpot. Real journalists use past experience to shape future decision.
Rumored DRM or online always system.
only the new IP I am interested in which might be a launch title but not enough to keep me interested.
With Microsoft being so predictable why would people feel comfortable when we know how the last 3 years of E3 look, microsoft as not been the microsoft of last gen or early this gen.
http://www.ign.com/articles...
the indie dev is just making inferences and guesses and probably has no real basis on which to make the statements he did. that article really should have been submitted as a rumor than news..
"You obviously didn't read that article"
Of course he didn't read it properly, look at his fanboy name, he just picked out parts that sounded negative about MS and regurgitated them to suit his own point.
Articles like these aren't proving anything besides shadiness and complete and utter stupidity.
And gamers wonder why, WHY the mainstream media don't take our profession seriously...
i'll pass at 55 time to hang-up the controller.
OLD SCHOOL GAMER retiring
as a gamer myself, I want to be able to get the fullest gaming experience I possibly can.
And if that means getting all the consoles for the games that I want, I don't see that as an excuse. Rather, it's rational reasoning.
There WILL be numerous games on both systems that I will want to play. This isnt football or baseball, So I will not limit my choices based on some blind fanboy dedication to a console manufacturer.
lol :D
Sounds like you're scared/worried as is most other Sony loyalist and or supporters.
Trying to condem a console and shape public opinion about it before anything is know about it is behavor of fanatical fanboyism.
I find it foolish to waste time trying to do Sony's job for them by attacking the xbox and promoting the PS4 when MSFT has not announced the new box and with Sony's history of lying and overpromising on thier new hardware time after time.
This attacking the unannounced 720 and chossing what 720 rumors to believe so you feel good about your future purchase is silly. Using certain devs after their *falling outs* with MSFT as scripture is very revealing how importand PS3 fans need Sony to beat MSFT this time/revenge even for this gen.
-Kinect attacked because Sony didn't envent something so popular and revolutionary
-The talking point that MSFT has no games comes from MSFT winning the 3rd party developer support and PS3 fans using it to deflect. Most of the games Sony has that PS3 fanboys boast about are shovelware and or game delayed over and over agin some being from almost a decade ago.
-The attack on MSFT's multi media plans comes from Sony supporters angry MSFT is doing it better and faster. (((IT ONLY DOES EVERYTHING)))
-Sony had no games for the 2012 holiday leaving a lot of bord Sony fans around to troll.
How can anybody say they would rather have a PS4 when the 720 hasn't been announced and Sony strategically lies about the console specs, launch dates, console capability, game launches.
*Sony changes specs when reality sets in.
*Sony purposely announces games not ready then canns them or delays them when they can't cope.
*Sony is following their leader MSFT and has been for a decade
*What Sony says their new console can do is never true
*Most of the exclusives are overhyped shovelware and filler barely worth the rental due to the way PS games are designed no replay value(waste of money)
So again how does this article make sense? Why would the masses choose the PS4 over the 720? Simple they won't. unless Sony earns that right, no amount of fanboys in forums is going to win this for SOny LMAO. MSFT's consoles are attacked because what their doing keeps iving then the edge and people ahte them for that.
In the real world the masses see added value in a machine that can replace amny devices it's delusional to think a multi media device is going in the wrong direction.
Most gamers have already chosen their sides, for similar reasons. They know what they like and what they trust.
I think the disagreement in the comments stem from the fact that there are still quite a few gamers undecided.
I thought Sony set the bar quite high. I thought they did very well, covered all the grounds that they needed to and showed consumers what they want to see; A solid product that aims well into the future in it's design, build and as well as the services it offers.
However, I'm an Xbox gamer. So I will wait. I would buy an Xbox 360 primarily for Halo, I'll admit that. I love Halo, I love Forza- genuinely, so it hasn't bothered me that Microsoft has given me more of what I love.
Would I buy the next Xbox primarily for Halo? I don't know. There needs to be more. Everyone has said it already, we want more and not just more of the same.
I'll play wait and see just as I did with my Xbox 360 and 3DS, while every "journalist" on the internet writes Doom articles for the new consoles weeks after they've launched.
@greenpowerz
It's clear to see why you have one bubble.
Honestly, who is more worried after THAT insecure bout of Sony hatred damage control?
"Trying to condem a console and shape public opinion about it before anything is know about it is behavor of fanatical fanboyism. "
So releasing opinion and making decisions based on valid reasons and truthful things that happened in the past is wrong? Microsoft's specs have been released. You lie that SuperDae's info is not correct, but at this stage all you are doing is defending something out of ignorance, desperation and fear.
"Kinect attacked because Sony didn't envent something so popular and revolutionary"
So Microsoft invented controller-free gaming? Or was that PrimeSense, or was it Sony before them with EyeToy, or was it Sega before them with the DreamEye. Brush up on your history kid, Sony fans know very well the inadequacy of that type of input for gaming. We've been burned before, but you're experiencing less than stellar motion gaming for the first time. Good going.
"Most of the games Sony has that PS3 fanboys boast about are shovelware and or game delayed over and over agin some being from almost a decade ago."
Said the hypocritical Microsoft fanboy. Most of those games are... ACTUAL games with ACTUAL focus. Ranging from average to great. Plus, you can't even downplay the diversity and risk taken from new IPs.
"The attack on MSFT's multi media plans comes from Sony supporters angry MSFT is doing it better and faster."
Not earlier though. You need to get your facts straight. PS3 was placed into the market as a multimedia hub long before Microsoft planned to initiate their plans to lock in your multimedia entertainment by making you go as far as paying for it. When Sony's online network impresses gamers enough that they don't mind not paying for the very basics, you won't have a leg to stand on.
"Sony had no games for the 2012 holiday leaving a lot of bord Sony fans around to troll"
And you must have no games at all by that logic, if you're here trolling. Holiday is all people like you seem to care about. You mustn't be used to round-the-year treatment.
"How can anybody say they would rather have a PS4 when the 720 hasn't been announced"
Because they're not blind and are smart about future decisions based on historical behaviour. RROD, charging consumers to use their own bandwidth for P2P gaming, casual focus, lack of support from Microsoft for their current console other than one game of which there is little to no hype for, lack of new IPs since 2010, lack of diversity in promoted exclusives, lack of risk in niche ideas that would be fruitful if they took risks.
"Why would the masses choose the PS4 over the 720? Simple they won't."
So you're critisizing the author for saying that he'd prefer to get PS4 when the 720 hasn't been announced, yet you're confident that people will choose it when it hasn't been announced. Hypocrite. Double Standards. Sound familiar?
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So fanboy in denial - greenpowerz - knows better than developers of next gen consoles it seems? Knows better than those with industry contacts?
Basically, when what one person says about their personal opinion (that they will get the PS4 before the next Xbox), makes you gush a hateful anti-Sony tirade of nonsense, it really just goes to show how MASSIVELY insecure you are about the direction of the next Xbox and scared that PlayStation could just be on a resurgence that Microsoft won't have the benefit of being able to silence, now that they have developers and Gaikai on their side.
But i will be buying the system that has the most games i prefer and i like.
There're also the 3 new AAA core IPs they're rumored to be developing as well. And, of course, the next Halo, although that probably won't be shown 'till 2014. It'll be an interesting E3, I can say that for sure.
Who knows. :D!
So eventually you'll be paying to game on PS4.
We haven't seen the PS4, don't know the price or release date. We don't know the finalized specs. We only saw Killzone running on the console for a few minutes, everything else was tech demo's and on PC.
We have seen ABSOLUTLY nothing revealed by Microsoft, jusr rumor and speculation. The same rumor and speculation that dogged Sony and that ultimately turned out to be untrue as well.
So I would suggest waiting to get info on all parties concerned before picking a winner or "the one" to buy.
Microsoft has disillusioned a lot of people. The RROD looms large in the mind of many, and with good reason: reliability for the next console can be questioned, especially early on.
Likewise, the heavy focus on the casual gamer toward the end of this generation is worrying: it's perfectly understandable that many are uncertain about how focused on the core they'll be, and whether or not the support they DO show will dry up as it has this generation.
And, of course, there's Xbox Live: many people do not like the idea of paying AGAIN to play online. I say AGAIN because you already pay for your internet connection; I can't see the logic behind paying Microsoft to use it for your games, especially since you're not charged by Sony, Nintendo, or anyone else.
True, we don't know everything about either of the two consoles. But what we DO know doesn't look good. If you're smart, you'll take each company's past and present actions into consideration.
Well, I say that, but all you take into consideration is that they're not Sony or Nintendo, right?
As for Xbox Live, there are other options, and we don't know about Sony's "Tiered" plan yet, I highly doubt they'll offer completely free online.
As for "casual" gaming, that is what gave the Xbox 360 life for this longer than usual console generation, Sony tried to do the same thing, but failed with Move. They want the casual gamer as much as Microsoft or Nintendo, they just throw a tarp over the "core" games by blowing smoke up their ass by saying things like "Were for the gamer!", all the while they shuffle apps, movies, music, Move and a new social network at people.
Sony owned the casual market with the PS1/PS2, so go take that argument elsewhere.
"True, we don't know everything about either of the two consoles. But what we DO know doesn't look good."
Are you joking? We know NOTHING about Microsoft's console, do you not understand the idea of truth versus rumor and speculation? You cannt sit there and say it doesn't look good when we've had no official word on the next Xbox.
As for Sony and Nintendo, I have a PS3 and bought a launch Wii U. So you can take whatever preconveiced notions you have about me, and shove them someplace nice..k?
I play it every single day, and have NEVER had a problem with it...
Can't say as much for my xbox's. I had one, sold it (rrod), had a second, sold the parts 'cause it got the rrod too - I was also tired of Microsoft being so stupid, making you pay for playing the online portion of a game you've already bought.
PS4, day-1 buy for me.
History has shown that even though Sony is an electronics giant,they are willing to make *Award Winning Games* as a console producer.that's why they have sold millions of consoles and portables and have a large back catalog of games to choose from.
History has shown that Sony is willing to let you game for Free online.every console,every portable allows you to play for Free.added services like Plus allow you to play full games for Free,and get discounts on games.
History has shown that Microsoft is a monopolizing company. Its why they get sued a lot. history has shown that they are willing to abandon a console and core gamers for the next thing. did it with the Xbox. did it again for casuals with kinect.
History has shown that even with more money than Sony and Nintendo combined, they are not willing to make games at the level of Nintendo or Sony. They would rather spend billions on limiting the competition with DLC nonsense because DVD does not hold as much as Bluray.making contracts with third parties to limit the obvious advantage Sony had with Bluray.
History has shown Microsoft was willing to launch a broken system to beat Sony to release. when it should have been recalled. history has shown Microsoft will sell gamers $100 WiFi accessories that are built in in everything else. Having proprietary hard drives to gouge more money.
Not saying the next Xbox won't be a contender. I'm expecting it to be with a kinect that should have released This Gen.
If you go by history, which company has benefited GAMERS the MOST while spending LESS?
So like in a high school history class, I'm not gonna listen to a word you just said :)
Just get the console you want. And only chumps and fanboys buy only one console. Why put limits on your joy?
And there's nothing more obnoxious than a fanboy cheerleader.
If xbox releases a great new machine that adds more games that i enjoy to play, i wouldnt mind getting one.. But if this gen & the rumors surrounding the nx box are anything to go by, i know i wont be getting one & wont support them in the slightest bit..
I quit Live last December and haven't touched my 360 since. Can't beleive I spent close to $300 to have online access which is offered free everywhere else. That and the 4 broken 360s I had have really turned me off MS. It's not like they're offering anything over Sony in the games department either aside from earlier access to DLC, which is more expensive due to MS points.
MS is to overtly greedy aka cheap.
if you are hyping yourself for the 720, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. whatever they have planned, I guarantee you, will not stack up to the PS4.
I was a very strong supporter os the 360 i got all my multi plats on it and paid for live even though i never used all that bs it has all i did was play online.. But not any more, sorry ms but i want to buy games not console after console.
For media, consoles are tricky as you do not know if you will get one, get a loaner, or have to buy one. I have hadd all three happen over the years. I reserve one that way if we get one, we can either return the resrved one or give it is a gift/contest.