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Sony Would be Making a big Mistake to Release the PS4 After the Xbox 720

In a recent interview, Sony President Kaz Hirai hinted the PS4 might release after the Xbox 720 saying, “why go first when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?” This would be a horrible mistake that shows Sony is not confident in their own product. The PS4 should be released when it ready, not when Microsoft shows their hand first. Playeressence's Furious Francis discusses how this decision could hurt Sony in the long run and what Sony should do with the PS4.

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mandf4122d ago

They want to get as many sales off the PS3 before moving on. Releasing before MS was be a mistake and kill PS3 momentum. The longer MS doesn't release the better for Sony.

iamnsuperman4122d ago

Sony has already said releasing after the 360 was a mistake they are not going to repeat. The PS3 momentum will be killed with a new Xbox anyway. Sony have more to loose waiting. I am predicting a release either the same day or a week either way

bicfitness4122d ago

Exactly. They went on record for saying that allowing the 360 to gain traction was a mistake.

Manchild4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Sony released PS3 the last and look how that turned out. N64 was released after PS1 and look how that turned out.

Wii U will be the winner of this generation, you can bet your ... on that! :D

DOMination-4122d ago

I think people took what Sony said slightly out of context when last week they were talking about "we'll wait for MS to show their hand" etc.

I think literally all they meant by that, was that - and has been the case for the last few years - MS will be showing off their console at e3 first because their press conference is usually the day before e3 starts. I really would be surprised if both 720 and PS4k didn't release holidays 2k13.

Looking forward to both. And actually, looking forward to what Nintendo might do. I still may get a WiiU as well if the software starts to roll. I'm excited for 2013 and beyond.

hakis864122d ago

@mandf
I see your point, but I'm not sure I agree. I mean, it's very unlikely that Sony would sell millions and millions of PS4's the first year, a lot of people wait for more games, etc.

And if Sony then can cut the PS3s price somewhat - and remember PS3 has 200x more games than the PS4 has when it will launch, I'm sure the PS3 will keep the momentum going for quite some time (I mean, just look at the damned PS2 which only recently 'finally died'..!!)

joab7774122d ago

I agree and if rumors are true then they are ahead in production. And the ps3 is still marketable. Everyone is worried about backwards compatubility but i dont think ppl are gonna be selling these machines. They are entertainmemt boxes u can use anywhere.

What woulda been smart is to link the new to the old somehow so that the ps3 stays relevant. Also, many games may release on both. Its just a bad idea to let xbox get the jump. 1st, even if ur machine is better and u have better launch games, which is what matters anyway, if u release first, their launch will be much harder. If it isnt, u definitely dont want to launch 2nd. Anyway, they can do what they want but its smarter to atleast get a jump in the US and UK where they typically get killed.

jmac534122d ago

I think the mistake was releasing a $600 console rather than releasing later. Plus the arrogance of telling people to get a second job to afford it.

GribbleGrunger4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

@Mandf: There's an old adage that goes 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'.

@jmac53: $600 wasn't a mistake, it was a necessity after all that investment. But that investment has been made now and those overheads won't need covering this time. If the PS3 had released a year later at the SAME price as the 360, the picture would have been completely different. I think that saying 'Next gen starts when we say it does' was arrogant, but talking about getting two jobs was just a cultural difference. In Japan it's seen as positive, while in the lazy West it's seen as OTT (and rightly so!)

@Manchild: I hope you're right. I really want to see Nintendo in there fighting the HD era this time around. I have reservations though. Are developers going to make better quality games on the 720 and the PS4? Or will they use the Wiiu as the lowest common denominator? If the 360 and the PS3 stay around for many more years then Wiiu devs have a bigger install base for their Wiiu games.

many people are already calling 'doom' on the Wiiu, but just as it is with the Vita, it's far too early to tell. One thing is for certain though, both MS and Sony have cut the talk of PS3/Vita and Smartglass. Perhaps they're waiting to see if Nintendo can make it popular before they fully commit.

You have to consider a more cynical strategy from the two major HD console manufacturers too: If they keep teasing next gen and can do that for a year or more, it could stifle the sales on the Wiiu because people will wait.

BattleAxe4121d ago

Sony is waiting for Microsoft to "announce" their system first before they announce their system.

If Sony does "release" their system after Microsoft, I don't think that anything up to 3 months will hurt them at all.

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StrongMan4122d ago

It doesn't matter. Sony will blow past MS with a year head start like they did this gen. We are still getting plenty of great and exciting new IPs on the PS3 so I'm not in a rush to see a PS4. Let MS go first and see if the casuals will spend $400-$500 on another Kinectbox when they don't play the one they have judging by extremely poor Kinect game sales.

bicfitness4122d ago

They can't afford to be in 3rd place for 6 years again. They're not coming off the blistering success of PS2 domination. I prefer Sony for consoles, but really, some common sense please.

Lvl_up_gamer4122d ago

LMFAO "blow past".

7 years later and the PS3 is still in 3rd place.

StrongMan still spreading ignorance and still won't produce any proof that Sony passed MS in any "significant" manner.

20 Million Kinect Adventures is poor kinect sales now? Sony only wishes they had an IP that could sell half those sales this gen.

Kinect Sports - 5.49 million...that is more then Uncharted sold and only 13K less then uncharted 2. So if Kinect Sports is considered poor sales, then I guess So is Uncharted 1 and 2. Lets not even bring up Twisted Metal, Resistance 3, Infamous 1 and 2.....etc

Kinect sports 2 - 2.11 million
Kinect Disney Land Adventures - 2.09 million
Kinectimals - 1.36 million (Infamous 2 - 1.52 million)
Kinect Star Wars - 1.24 million
Kinect JoyRide - 1.24 million

Remember, Kinect doesn't have a 70+ million install base like the PS3 has where game like Resistance, Allstars, Infamous etc have to sell on, Kinect only has about 20 million units out there so those "poor" sales are arctually VERY good.

WeAreLegion4122d ago

He was talking about the current Kinect sales. There was an article recently, that stated the Kinect wasn't selling anymore.

Ezz20134122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

@lvl_up_gamer

i think the only one who show ignorance is you
you are getting angry at ps3 passed xbox even with the year head start
it was commen knowledge that ps3 was outselling xbox every year since launch
it was pound to happen

and what funny that you are sooooooo proud of kinect that sold 20million with 500million $ ads

yet the move sold over 15million with almost slim to non ads
http://www.engadget.com/201...

and also plz tell me where you are getting that infamous and Resistance and the "etc." don't sell ...vgchartz ?! lolXD

it doesn't matter who start the race ...what matter who end it

get over your self

chronoforce4122d ago

the 360's best selling game this gen is kinect title

Lvl_up_gamer4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

@ CrowTRobot

If he was only referring to current kinect titles (nitpicking) then lets compare to current PS3 titles.

How is Twisted metal selling?
How is Allstars selling?
How is LBP karting selling?

All those titles are on a 70+ million console install base.

Kinect titles only have a 20 million install base.

It's absolutely stupid to talk about poor sales when the install base is so low.

Everyone says that the Vita is doing fine yet poor sales of the Vita is ok and the low sales of the games are just fine according to Sony fanboys.

@ Ezz2013

You are really not that bright are you.

Where is your proof that the PS3 has outsold the xbox in any manner that is relevant to market share? You are just spreading more ignorance every time you cling onto unofficial SHIPPED numbers. LMFAO how desperate do you have to be?

As for MS spending $500 million on marketing the Kinect.

The average cost of Kinect since launch has been around $200.

It has sold 20 million units.

$200 x 20,000,000 = $4 BILLION.

That's around $2 BILLION a year.

So minus the $500 million that is approx $3.4 BILLION generated revenue from Kinect. That is NOT including the software sales for Kinect as well.

So it's YOU Ezz2013 that is the ignorant one. You post the cost of marketing MS spent to make some kind of irrelevant point only for it to backfire back in your face.

If you want to talk races, then the only thing that matters is who crosses the finish line first. The race was over when the Wii crossed the finish line with their next gen console, so all that matters is whole will cross next. If MS release their their next gen Xbox before Sony (which all indicators are pointing too) and still holds 2nd place to Nintendo in market share sales, then the race will be over. Sony is running out of time. MS will release the 720 come November.....Sony just needs 1.6 million to TIE MS as of right now....it will be interesting to see if Sony can do it, but as of right now Sony is still losing the race and the finish line is extremely close.

Ezz20134122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

@lvl_up_gamer

"You are really not that bright are you."

i will adjust my brightness to 60%
am i still too dark for you?!

"Where is your proof that the PS3 has outsold the xbox in any manner that is relevant to market share? You are just spreading more ignorance every time you cling onto unofficial SHIPPED numbers. LMFAO how desperate do you have to be?"

for the 1000 time both report shipped numbers not sold numbers
this has been knowen for ever
both get the money from that too..in case you don't know

also the last report from MS show it shipped 76M
which is the same numbers as the numbers from the report that say ps3 shipped 77m while MS shipped 76m

it's clear the report is right
you just don't want to admit it

"As for MS spending $500 million on marketing the Kinect.
The average cost of Kinect since launch has been around $200.
It has sold 20 million units.
$200 x 20,000,000 = $4 BILLION.
That's around $2 BILLION a year.

So minus the $500 million that is approx $3.4 BILLION generated revenue from Kinect. That is NOT including the software sales for Kinect as well.
"

again you still didn't see my point where i said MS spend 500Million on ads for kinect to sell only 20 million
while sony didn't spend any thing close to that number yet move sold over 15million

"So it's YOU Ezz2013 that is the ignorant one. You post the cost of marketing MS spent to make some kind of irrelevant point only for it to backfire back in your face."

where did backfire on my face ?!

"If you want to talk races, then the only thing that matters is who crosses the finish line first. The race was over when the Wii crossed the finish line with their next gen console
, so all that matters is whole will cross next.
"

no the Wiiu didn't cross any thing
not because the console come to HD era mean
this HD era is over
and this gen won't over untill they stop making games for ps3/360 or stop making the consoles
get that through your head
this gen is far from over

"If MS release their their next gen Xbox before Sony (which all indicators are pointing too) and still holds 2nd place to Nintendo in market share sales, then the race will be over."

xbox is not holding 2nd place no matter what you try to tell your self..it's in 3rd place
and as i told you this gen won't over untill they stop making games for ps3/360 or stop making the consoles

"Sony is running out of time. MS will release the 720 come November.....Sony just needs 1.6 million to TIE MS as of right now....it will be interesting to see if Sony can do it, but as of right now Sony is still losing the race and the finish line is extremely close."

where did you get that ps3 is behind 360 by 1.6million ?!...dude stop using Vgchartz

it really hurt yu that ps3 passed xbox so you come up with numbers to sleep better

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DeadlyFire4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

E3 2013.

Both will announce.
XB3 will showcase hardware and games
PS4 will showcase games and hint at the hardware.

Likely both have what they want set in stone, but Sony might leave some room for slight improvements on certain features just in case Microsoft has something a little better than their hardware tech. I expect Sony to be no more than 3 months behind Microsoft. Maybe less than that.

nirwanda4122d ago

On paper the ps4 sounds like a more powerful machine if vgleaks are correct so sony would have a massive market share if they released at the same time or earlier than MS and would seriously damage their sales as most people would go with the most powerful console

dcbronco4122d ago

No one can tell which console will be better based on any of the leaked specs. No one knows what the final builds will be. No one knows what 8 Jaguar cores are capable of until later this year. The PS4 power belief is based on both using Jaguar but Sony using a more powerful GPU. But no one has said how many GPUs the consoles will have. And no one has said what modifications have been done to the APUs. The best thing to do is to wait and see what is launched. No one is going to release specs so we have to wait for a teardown later.

nirwanda4122d ago

Based on last gen leaked specs that people seem to not disagree with on game specialist websites tend to be very close, I had heard the ps3 specs long before the 360 came out.
Don't forget it can take year to make a game and final dev kits quite a while before a console ships for fine tuning code.

dcbronco4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

The problem is that the specs aren't usually finalized until late. Like you said. The early specs are based on off the shelf parts. The released machines will not be off the shelf. And considering Microsoft has such a huge CPU group of their own, I'm not sure what we can take away from the rumors of a Jaguar core. The 360 uses a PowerPC CPU but the final version in the 360S is not what IBM made. Microsoft completely changed that themselves. So even if the next Xbox is based on Jaguar. I think it will be a highly modified Jaguar core. And if you think about the direction MS has taken with their software(Windows 8 and C++ AMP), it seems they plan to have an APU based on pure HSA or as close to it as anybody will be by the time these machines are released. AMD doesn't expect full HSA until next year. MS beat them to the APU and Unified Shader was first used in the 360. So don't be surprised if the first full HSA APU is in the next Xbox. It would be hard for Sony to match that.

Gamer19824121d ago

MS E3 is always before Sony's from that time they have 4/5 months to build millions of ps4s for launch. This is what they are talking about no doubt in my mind. They will announce the ps4 and show games working on a dev kit version but no doubt the final spec won't be "final" until MS have announced there console. Thats what he is probably talking about.

My opinion? This could be eluding to the RAM comparisons were hearing about. Rumour is new xbox is gonna have 8gb which is overkill and Sony wouldn't wanna launch with 4GB if it did as that would make there console look weaker even though for a console 4gb is PLENTY (current gens run on 512mb remember?) but perception is everything and it would cost them $5 to pop an extra 4gb in there.

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creeping judas4122d ago

Didn't seem to hurt them all that much this gen?

Gamer19824121d ago

It did enough damage. 360 should never have become as big as it did. It had everything wrong about a console from high death rate at launch to having to pay to play online games but thanks to Sony bumbling their launch MS still got in anyway. Gamers (most of them) speak with there wallets and most shunned original Xbox because of stuff like online pay-to-play. Because PS2 was the superior console though not in terms of specs but backing. Backing can outweigh specs in that respect.

Viper74122d ago

It doesn't really matter who launches first, what matters is that one doesn't release too much after the other.

Making the Customers and Developers (especially the latter) isn't really the best strategy when you want as many and as great games as possible for launch.

Gamer19824121d ago

Sadly I agree but that could work in Sonys favour. If MS say we launch nov 21st. Sony say Oct 21st or something most console owners will go for ps4 as they really want nex-gen now and won't even wait a week.

SpartanGR4122d ago (Edited 4122d ago )

Doesn't matter who launches first. The one with the best software will win.

WeAreLegion4122d ago

Not true.

The one with the MOST software will win. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, Wii. What do they all have in common? They had more titles on their platform than the other systems. In the case of the Wii, however, they weren't necessarily the highest quality titles. :/

Viper74121d ago

For my understanding Wii has less software titles than Ps3 or X360. Partly due to the fairly low 3rd party sales on the system and the poor digital distribution system.

Altough I do agree that system with comprehensive and versatile lineup of games has far better standing on global market. Shooters sell systems in US, but not necessarily anywhere else.

E.g Singstar has been fairly big thing in Europe, lips doesn't come even close thanks to it's poor localisation.

asmith23064122d ago

I don't think it matters as much as this gen. This gen Sony and MS were aiming for the exact same audience starting out. MS has clearly taken aim at a new demographic. Hell the PS3 has even surpassed 360 sales worldwide even when both companies were aiming for the same audience and the PS3 came out a year 'late'. Of course it would be nice to see the PS4 sooner than the nextBox because as a gamer Sony does more for my needs, but it's not a mistake if it doesn't release before it.

I don't mind if Sony takes their sweet time and delivers us the goods. They have proven this gen that they keep giving and giving to core gamers, and more importantly, WANT to keep giving to core gamers. As long as they don't get arrogant like they did at the start of this gen, I will be buying the PS4 day one.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 22h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 12h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 4h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 2h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 1h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC16h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 18h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 6h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 21h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 20h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC16h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 1h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k420h ago(Edited 20h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k420h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 20h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 10h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 3h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 20h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 19h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 3h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 12h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere2d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 12h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX3d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 7h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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