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XBox Next/720 silicon production day arrives

Remember when SemiAccurate exclusively brought you the news about the XBox Next/720′s main chip taping out? Remember when we said customer silicon was likely to go in to production in 2012? Guess what?

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jujubee884132d ago

New MS console in 2013 confirmed.

Now . . . How about that PS4?

redDevil874132d ago

Wait for an announcement about the PS4.

jujubee884132d ago (Edited 4132d ago )

Hmmm. A novel concept if I had ever heard one. Sorry, I wont wait. My breed do not know of such a word.

I will browse every rumor, divine every bit of online speculation, and pray to the gaming gods for a VITA+PS4 budle and entry level SKU under $400 USD. All this I will do until the day comes that Sony announces something (anything) officially.

Wait? It has already been far too long since I got my high...and all I did was click "refresh" (on another PS4 rumor). DO YOU SEE? DO YOU SEE NOW?!?

I am clinically insane, is what I'm saying. ^____^

sikbeta4132d ago

MS launching first will kill any PS4 chances to sell well in US+UK, this gen went for too long, the core is starving for a new beast of Console...

kneon4132d ago

@jujubee88

I don't want a $400 Vita+Ps4 bundle because that would mean they cheaped out on the tech in the PS4.

If we're going to get a new console it should be a worthwhile upgrade, not just a minor improvement in features and performance.

ProjectVulcan4132d ago (Edited 4132d ago )

According to this source from long ago, the next Playstation was supposed to be a bunch of fast separate chips possibly on an MCM while the next Xbox silicon here is supposed to be a Fusion style SoC. BOTH machines according to the source claim to be AMD lockouts, AMD CPUs and GPUs. However other sources claim Microsoft have gone with an IBM CPU.

All we have heard since from a bunch of alternate sources though is that Sony are in fact the ones going in on the SoC 'fusion' style concept. Sony are the ones who apparently have gone for the x86 bulldozer CPU and AMD GPU.

It is difficult to separate fact from fiction here as the waters are still hazy.

I like looking at these articles and remembering all the rumours a couple years down the line from now, so we'll see who was closest and try to +1 them.

BitbyDeath4131d ago (Edited 4131d ago )

"Now . . . How about that PS4?"

Here ye go
http://n4g.com/news/1146014...

PS1 ended production 24th March 2006
(just 8 months before the PS3 released)

http://au.gamespot.com/news...

Which means we may see the PS4 release as early as September this year.

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DeadlyFire4132d ago

3-6 months later PS4 arrives Spring 2014! I expect PS4 production to start Mid 2013.

That's just my opinion though. No facts to go on at the moment other than the way the patents got released. Only a couple of months apart with XB3 being first and PS4 being 2nd. Production and release will likely be along those lines.

Knight_Crawler4132d ago

I do not think its a good idea for Sony to launch the PS4 ater the 720 - 3-6 month is not bad but if Sony releases the PS4 a year later they will be in big trouble.

Next gen is diffrent being that no gen has ever lasted more than 5 years so gamers will be exreamly hungry to play a next gen console - console loyalty will not matter and gamers will buy the first next gen console to release.

DeadlyFire4132d ago (Edited 4132d ago )

Well either way I am buying PS4 first. I bought X360 first last gen and it didn't please me. I own 90% of my games on PS3/PC.

Unless Microsoft can pull out more than one new great IP that can entice me to think of Xbox as more than just Halobox I believe I will be standing my ground.

sikbeta4132d ago

OK, see what happened this gen when Sony launched after the X360 and how MS totally won the US+UK market after the Wii appeal died down? guess what's going to happen now that MS became a powerhouse by its own....

America = Xbox-Land

kneon4132d ago

Sony releasing the PS3 later than the 360 was only a problem for the media and fanboys. They are now pretty well tied in overall sales despite the PS3 launching 12-24 months after the 360 depending on the region.

So the PS3 sold at a faster rate than the 360 even though it's been the most expensive console throughout this generation.

nunley334131d ago

@sikbeta, xbox 360 has sold better over in the united states but not by much. and ps3 has outsold it in uk+japan. so 360=america land but PS3=UK+Japan land and this was after launching a year late.

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Thatguy-3104132d ago

Think Microsoft console will come out first but Sony will follow it couple of months later. They won't wait a whole yr like this Gen.

Kurt Russell4131d ago

I'm calling October for Xbox.

morkendo234131d ago

According to MS game programmer production crew member a PERSONAL friend I SEE DAILY. has his take on "DURANGO" : "Quality control" is having problems with heatsink testing and cooling ventilation once again also inferred connectivites issues ( kinect) 720 maybe delayed til mid 2014

this was mention in nov. 2012

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Lvl_up_gamer4132d ago

Can't wait. 2013 is going to be a great year for gaming.

Xbox 720 day 1 buy for me. Just need the date. Reveal should be coming before summer.

iGamerZERO4132d ago (Edited 4132d ago )

Wow ! Your comment is clean and right to the point of what you would like to see happen in 2013 and you got disagrees , gotta remember theres a ton of broke ham n Eggers on N4G that just saved enough for current gen consoles and are sweating the idea of new consoles.........I'm buying PS4 , Xbox next and a steam box with hesitation DAY ONE.....

SilentNegotiator4131d ago

It's called "comment history" and "agenda"

JamieL4130d ago (Edited 4130d ago )

@ silent
You would know a lot about that huh? You're right though, your "comment history" clearly shows YOUR "agenda".
Hypocrites, gotta love'em.

OC_MurphysLaw4132d ago (Edited 4132d ago )

After reading the article... I don't think this is confirmation that the silicon issues are resolved. This merely is an article saying the production date has come and if they aren't producing by now, we wont see it in 2013. There was no concrete source stating the kinks were ironed out.

Edit from the article:

"While we have not definitively heard about a go/no go wafer in decision, if Microsoft is going to launch their next generation console this year, they almost assuredly made the December 31 date. Any delay of more than a few weeks will mean no new console in 2013, there just won’t be enough time to make them. If no one credible leaks news soon, I wouldn’t go stand in line for a new Microsoft console in late August."

RandomDude6554132d ago

There was actually a rumor not too long ago about MS delaying by six months, and there hasn't been any word about if the yields/problems improved.

I personally think they missed it.

Should find out in a couple months anyway.

DiRtY4132d ago

There has been a rumor and because there hasn't been another rumor contradicting the previous rumor, it might be true!

3 - 4 months and we will find out.

bobshi4132d ago

Absolutely.

This article is trash.

It even says itself that they haven't actually received word that the deadline was met!

And that was a deadline set in summer 2011. Clearly the author has never worked in a deadline driven environment, because deadlines are hardly ever kept - especially not when they're set over a year in advance.

IAMERROR4132d ago

I personally believe the 720 is coming out this year. There's a reason they're releasing GOW:J early in the year instead of the near-end of the year GOW titles always had. The Holidays will be dedicated to the 720 and launch games.

OC_MurphysLaw4132d ago

I agree that the plan certainly is for the next Xbox to hit in 2013. Their Calendar of games (lack of) for the first half screams new system. BUT.... if they really are having issues with the silicon fab still then no matter what they "want" wouldn't matter since this would dictate the production.

Most likely I think they do a staggered launch and launch in NA first especially if they have limited units.

IAMERROR4132d ago

Pretty much what I think, they might do a limited release late in 2013.

akaakaaka4132d ago (Edited 4132d ago )

this is the most logical way of thinking and it seem that few n4g kids can't use logic..

Playstation, XBOX and even 3rd party devs games are in the first half of 2013, the second half is a mystery with few games which is normal for PS3 and 360 to still be supported after PS4 and new XBOX is out.

000014132d ago

im thinking with the non-stop next generation talk as of the last month, now that it is 2013 hopefully we start getting news of some next gen games! >:D

IAMERROR4132d ago

I want to see some next gen games already! :3

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle11h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18818h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio8h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21839h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus233h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv723h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10113h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac12h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein22h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno18h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k417h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson17h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu18h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson17h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.