Wii U Haters Sound Like Curmudgeonly Old Coots

Obviously, people aren't exactly getting their facts straight about Nintendo's newest console.

[chadboban]

Don't get why we can't put petty fanboyism aside and just enjoy video games. Seriously, console wars are the equivalent of kids in the playground arguing over who has the better toy.

[BlackWolf]

The problem is that there are people that can't think in a mature way. They only live with what their respective "god company" tells them, be it nintendo, sony or microsoft. That way, they don't see anything wrong with their "god", and bash anything the others do, no matter if it's a good or a bad thing. It's a lack of maturity in my opinion, both in relatively young gamers and inmature grown ups.

[chadboban]

Couldn't agree with you more.

[darthv72]

of gaming in general. Have been since pong. i've seen the good and bad in people who pick sides. Especially those who pick the wrong side.

Yet there is no right or wrong side if you really think about it. There is either you got the same system as your friends or you didnt but that doesnt make you any less of a person that enjoys games.

In fact, i may start off a console generation with 1 system but by the end i have all of them. i can respect a person's choice to only play the one they like so long as they can respect mine in playing the field.

Games are meant to be fun but there are just too many out there that have more fun belittling those who dont share the same POV.

[guitarded77]

The crappy thing is there are crazy hater anti-fans who will nitpick every little thing about a system without even trying it, and there are also the "defenders" (crazy zealot fans) who will never be critical over real issues.

They both suck; gamers should be open minded enough to try just about anything, and wise enough to be critical when a company does nothing more than cash by doing something not in the better interest of us (the gamers).

I got my Wii U day one and I really enjoy it. At the same time, I have put pressure on Nintendo to add a trophy/achievement system by creating a petition. I've finally received a non-typical-PR e-mail from Nintendo thanking me for providing many reasons to add a system and that they are seriously considering the option.

I was open minded enough to try the Wii U without worrying about specs and what not, but I was also constructively critical not just in forums, but to Nintendo themselves, and I'm seriously hoping they will take that constructive criticism and make their system better.

The "defenders" are worse than the haters IMO because they stagnate the growth of gaming by being complacent. The haters don't matter anyway because they aren't even going to buy the product.

[MikeMyers]

There's a difference between wanting a product to do better and things improving because you may be a potential customer, as opposed to those who have nothing better to do than troll articles or continually having a negative outlook with no intentions of ever supporting that product or in extreme cases any product that company puts out.

I want the Wii U to so well. I think it's an interesting concept. It's just too early for me until it gets more games I'm interested in.

[N4g_null]

I would hope you could opt out of a troPhie system. It kills replay for game designers since they can phone it in. I like being able to leave your mark while some one else is playing.

I've seen lots of gamers stop playing because they only had trophies and no real satisfying moments in these games.

[corrus]

I am not fanboy i like and 360,PS3 don't like only Nintendo

[BlackWolf]

I wasn't talking about you, I suppose... Now, if the hat fits you, good for you.

[ronin4life]

Swap Nintendo and Sony in your statement and you have me (In a nutshell...)

But that doesn't mean I won't give Sony props for doing good or will always blast them blindly for nothing... I just don't like them that much really...
^ͺ^

[dubal-e]

I agree.

[Phil32]

I don't understand why you got disagrees for that comment. It's spot on. Nicely said.

A lot of people here and on the Internet would rather play fanboy/console wars than play actual video games. It's a juvenile hobby that will stay that way until gamers grow up.

[eferreira]

Some wii u hate isn't just fanboys. I'm getting one for xmas but some of the specs, launch apps and overall OS got me upset because they aren't thinking. I am a Nintendo fans, but even fans get fed up.

[BlackWolf]

These is the reality we have. Why do we have to destroy each other in a senseless war? And for games? That's just immature. You like games? Good. As far as I know, that's all what should matter.

[1upgamer99]

I frankly really LOVED Gamecube, too many people dismissed it. It had 2X the power of PS2, much better graphics,(Oh but graphics don't much matter to a true gamer) tons of NINTENDO ONLY content, and that includes M for Mature. AAA games, that most people who bash Nintendo HAVE NEVER EVEN PLAYED. Now that said, Wii Was cool and all, BUT Nintendo should have made it,at least a little more powerful. Now, Wii U. The Graphics saturation point has ALMOST been reached. I mean look at games running on current gen systems. Nintendo, like it or not people is at least 25% or better (Newer tech, and if you don't understand that LOOK IT UP) more powerful than what PS3 is and it sells for around the same price. What I am MOST looking forward to is what Nintendo does with that added power. The next Zelda is the most Expensive game Nintendo has ever made. Graphics don't cost more now than then, in fact N64 cost many times more to develop for than PS1. Now Nintendo is on track to develop one of the BEST and biggest games ever.

[stragomccloud]

Darn good read. Too bad the people who should be reading this probably won't.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

All haters are idiots. Then again, people who can't accept the fact people have negative criticism about things are also tools.

Its just the way of life.

[millzy102]

in order to criticise you have to try, if someone tries something and doesnt like it with reasons why thats fare enough everyone cant like the same thing but if you hate something by looking at pictures and reading articles thats not criticism but hate.

[TheoreticalParticle]

I'm not going to read the article, but I can tell you this: We, as a people, have become increasingly shitty ever since the moment we decided that we could just handwave away valid criticism simply as "hating".

[Hicken]

I'll agree with you.

Do a lot of people take it too far? Of course. Especially here on the internet, it's far too easy to criticize something without being held accountable for your words/actions, which prompts people to say and perpetuate ignorant things. This has given rise to an absolute defense group: people that will defend their favorite game/product/company from any and all perceived offenses.

But that means that even legitimate complaints are railed agannst. You can't say anything bad about anything, no matter how valid the criticism, without being a hater.

I can't criticize Microsoft without being a Sony fanboy, for example. The irony is that half the people that will attack me for my view will, nonetheless, agree with me on that subject, personally. And I'm not the only one treated that way; far from it.

Perhaps it's something about being surrounded by or having the support of people who similarly like what you like, but people with otherwise reasonable opinions seem to forget about reason when their preference is in question.

[danimitsu]

I think ppl sometimes assume just because some one is not a fan Product A then the only option is that they are a fanboy of Product B. Personally, I won't be purchasing a Wii U, and not because I hate Nintendo. I liked their stuff in the past, but the Wii U just has nothing for me. I think the controller is awkward and overall the system just doesnt have any features that appeal to me. That's not being a fanboy of anything, that's just being a consumer.

[MadMen]

The WiiU will be a failure in comparison to the Wii's success

Guaranteed like death and taxes

[iamnsuperman]

There are the idiotic haters who say stupid things. But on the other side there are the idiotic lovers who really do not understand reasonable criticism. There are two idiotic sides to it

[josephayal]

what do people want???? The WiiU is in stock everywhere, WHY?

[Ness619]

People think specs determine how good a console is. Guess what, they could release a 16 bit system tomorrow with SNES graphics on every game and as long as they were fun games to play, I'd buy it in a heart beat. I feel bad (actually, not really...) for people who think that a game is only as good as it's graphics. Have fun shooting things in photo realism over, and over, and over, and over, and over again

[delboy]

Well said man.
Same here,give me those great SNES games in HD and im set.

[Sp1d3ynut]

Really? Don't you think those generations more than served their purpose already, especially given how many of the 8 and 16 bit classics have turned up as downloadable games on XBLA, PSN, etc ? Technological improvements are what keep the electronics industry alive. By your logic, Apple fans would line up for another iPhone, even if it looked like a 2G GSM from 1991.

[Ness619]

I wasn't actually pointing to the SNES for reference, my point was more that games with crappier graphics are still just as fun as games with amazing graphics, yet people seem to think those games suck. People think cartoony kiddy graphics mean a game is garbage. Even when Wind Waker came out everybody wrote it off and being a terrible game just because of it's graphics but it was still just as good as any other Zelda game. Most gamers are too quick to judge gameplay simply by how good the textures look.

[Kamikaze]

could not agree more dude

[Kangashark]

Agreed. People get way too hung up on graphics. I mean look at all the people making fun of the Wii U because it's specs aren't going to be as good as the next Sony/M$ consoles. I played the Wii U with 3 friends over the weekend (Mario, NintendoLand, Sonic Racing) and every person had a blast. It's a great party/drinking system and not to mention...it's ***FUN***. Who cares about graphics if the gameplay is good? If you only play FPS's and care about graphics then you probably just in your basement all day and yell obscenities at people through your headset. All alone...

[MrJonathan]

Nintendo will never get a fair shake from the press or from internet addicted fanboy shut-ins that visit places like gamefaqs and neogaf.

[Kamikaze]

the world would be complete without haters/fanboys

[Sp1d3ynut]

I hate fanboys...and haters.

[ozzywazzy]

"Some men just want to watch the Wii U burn." Me included until something decent is shown.

[N4g_null]

Everyone likes gaming for different reasons and some people are not willing to be wrong And ignore facts. We have at least 4 gen of gamers now and we all look for different things in our games. So the idea that one name could describe us all is a bit of a Problem.

When you find a hater ask them why, example the wiiu being underpowered. What make you think that? Is hate just frustration or actively trying to bad talk evry thing about a product.

Having older gamers is a problem also.

[mshope10]

nintendo fans who cares about the haters.instead of posting comments on sites like this we have the miiverse our own social network to discuss games without hearing people cry all the time!

its awesome!i go there more everyday and here less cause talking to other adult gamers without crybabies is just incredible!

[Max-Zorin]

This gen will be known for gamers having so much hatred toward each other.

[JayBlue]

There is one problem with this new generation of gamers, the ones we know as hardcore or haters in this case...they are fixated at graphics, cpu clock speed, gpu raw power, amount of ram. Not many people actually know what these things mean in real performance, but when they see the high numbers, they get all hyped up.
I'm mostly a pc gamer, but i find myself looking for ways to re-experience those old games that became part of my childhood.

Talking about graphics, just look at the original PS1, it was only a 32 bits system, and it was capable of competing with the N64, a 64bit console, and even get better graphics in many cases.

But the important part isn't graphics, its gaming experience.Yes, graphics makes things prettier, more attractive, but that's it. At the end of the day, a bad game, even with the best graphics out there, will stay as a bad game.

The Wii U may not be the powerful console graphic-wise everyone was expecting, compared to PS3 or Xbox 360, but its capable of keeping that gaming experience that old gamers want to keep.
It's my opinion.