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What Will Next Gen Bring That We Don’t Already Have?

Joel Taveras writes, “Bigger, better, louder, more.” That was the way God of War and Twisted Metal creator David Jaffe described the next gen when I questioned him about it earlier in the year. What I found interesting from that interview was that even an industry visionary like Jaffe couldn’t shoot me a straight answer on what the next generation of consoles and games would even bring and, for the past 10 months since that interview, I’ve wondered the same exact thing.

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taz80804174d ago

If its graphics, meh. I'm hoping for smarter AI

BitbyDeath4174d ago

We're getting that now with "The Last of Us".
I'm hoping for true multi-tasking.

JoelT4174d ago

I'm not even trolling, but genuinely interested as to what you mean by "multi-taking" pertaining to games.

BitbyDeath4174d ago

Ability to play music, watch movies, play games, copy files, run home, access the store/web etc.

All at the same time or at least 2 or even 3 at once.

Gazondaily4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

It's about time that significant strides are made in the area of Artificial Intelligence. I think this generation's take on it has, on the whole, been woeful.

With the exception of certain A.I behaviours, I cannot think of a single game that has convincing A.I. Admittedly, it's a very difficult area to program for but even so, in comparison to the effort put into areas such as visuals, physics, scale etc, AI has been neglected to the detriment of the medium.

I really do hope that the Last of Us lives up to its promise. What is the point of amazing looking 3D gaming worlds when the 'inhabitants' that comprise these worlds are hollow and one dimensional at best?

pixelsword4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Accurate grenade/n00b-tube/mine detonation. I hate it when someone launches a grenade from a launcher three feet away from me and gets no damage, or you set-off a mind coming around a corner and detonate it and die before you even go through a door.

That, and advanced boob jiggle.

@ septic;

Play Killzone 2 on elite; it's probably the best AI I've seen this gen.

stragomccloud4174d ago

So.... a PC?
Not trolling. Just being facetious.

Thefreeman0124174d ago

you can already play music and play games at the same time. im not sure why you would want to watch a movie while playing a game because then you are not giving any good attention to either.

th3n00bg4m3r4174d ago

Yep, The Last Of Us has the best AI in a video game ever.

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konnerbllb4174d ago

Graphics, AI, Physics, Map size, Team size, ect.

Conzul4174d ago

I'm tired of seeing cloth clipping.

Anyone who's watched Altair, then Ezio, climb to synchronize and see their cape just magic itself through the wood platform knows what I'm talking about.

Oh, and METAL ARMOR DOESN'T STRETCH! Stop having it deform along with the mesh it rests on! Sheeesh.

ILive4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

I think the price range should be between $400 and $500 dollars. We need some form of a noticeable leap in the visual department because that is what they are going to use to sell their consoles. I don't like the whole AI argument. Do you want it to take 6000 hours to kill an enemy because it was super smart? What if you are surrounded by multiple enemies? It is still a game after all is it not? Enemies should be challenging, but not to the point that its vexing. Perhaps when it comes to co-op partners should be smarter but not to the point they are killing all the enemies, leaving you with nothing. Perhaps stealth games are where AI need more work. I want noticeable improvements in graphics, creative freedom for developers (which means taking risks), more rewarding game-play experiences, less sequels and fun games that combine all the elements together for great entertainment like Uncharted 2. I also want more people in multiplayer. 30vs30 sounds good to me. Next gen may be my the last gen I can truly have time to game.

wiiulee4174d ago

the wiiu is the only true next generation console that is going to be out with true next generation gameplay and uniqueness with great graphics....sony and microsoft will settle for prettier picture while pc games still look better then them and haters and silly fanboys will be happy that the next xbox and ps4 can do pictures twice as pretty as ps3....nintendo went the right direction with major interaction upgrade and rounded better graphics then the current generation...then again im sure sony and microsoft are thinking of ways to copy the wiiu gamepad.

BitbyDeath4174d ago

FYI. Not everyone likes the Wii U tablet/gamepad.

Stroke6664174d ago

thus the pro controller was born, problem solved no? but why waste developer time to skip the cool shit the gamepad can be capable of.... meh whatever floats ur boat

Pillsbury14174d ago

Sony and m$ do follow and imitate what Nintendo does which means they are unique. I like the wii u because it tries to innovate but we all know the ps4 will be more powerful, but better graphics doesn't translate to better games. Sony brings amazing exclusives and pushes tech to new heights.

Daoshai4174d ago

Have we not grown up yet? This m$ stuff is so childish

Stroke6664174d ago

so I take it doashai is ur real name?... no? we cant pick and choose when to be freely expressive my friend.

ratcop224174d ago

The wii u is a joke sorry to say. The graphics don't even achieve next gen or current gen.

PopRocks3594174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Based on what, launch titles (most of which are current generation ports) or analyses done by random hackers? How about giving the console its due time before writing it off graphically?

Stroke6664174d ago

How about playing one(not kiosk bound) before making empty statements

ratcop224173d ago

Techincally this a response to PopRcoks359 but Ng4 is being stupid and won't let me reply directly. Yes I am saying the Wii u is a joke based off of Launch titles. When the xbox 360 launched it had Ps2/xbox games on but looked and played much better. When Ps3 launched it had Resistance which played much better than pretty much any Ps2/Xbox game

pixelsword4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

"the wiiu is the only true next generation console that is going to be out with true next generation gameplay and uniqueness with great graphics"

You *must* hook me up with your supplier.

As most Wii U people state, the next gen is the next one out, so by definition all next-gen consoles will have true next-gen gameplay.

As far as great graphics, when the Wii U reaches God of War III level graphics, I'll sort-of believe it; when it surpasses it, then it will merely live-up to what Reggie and a lot of "U" folks have been saying from the beginning, it will not advance it's reputation though.

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GrandTheftZamboni4174d ago

4K visuals for games on discs, 1080 for cloud games.

JoelT4174d ago

While 4K TV prices linger around 25,000 USD, 4K games seem to be a ways off.

pixelsword4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Some of us can afford 4K televisions, so why should we suffer or the tech be put on hold for the next gen while the other gamers wait around for the tech to drop?

That's the same reason why consoles are behind in some way; This gen is bucking that trend, and I hope the next one puts consoles neck and neck with cutting-edge and near-future PC specs.

I understand that it could add to the price, but basically what will happen is one of three things:

The tech will be available next gen while in a year or two the tech will be old and then old tech will be put in next gen consoles (basically what people are saying Nintendo is doing with the Wii U)

Console will start to have shorter console cycles and will price itself out of the market due to the general population's advancing PC knowledge (hey, if you're going to spend several hundred dollars in less than five to seven years on a console, you might as well do it on something that you can mod and possibly make money on)

Or, the tech will simply not be used this gen (if at all) and it will put the PC in a stronger position because the tech will eventually drop in price, and if it's not going to be used, then it's going to be a tech that PC and graphic snobs will flock to.

GrandTheftZamboni4173d ago

You're right. But take into account 1 year till the next gen consoles are released + 5 years console cycle. Consoles should be able to utilize what will be a standard in their last year or two.

konnerbllb4174d ago

1080p on cloud would be nice, I don't think we'll see 1080p at 60fps this gen, we can't even do 720p at 60fps this gen.

boybato4174d ago

its been several years since "this gen" started.

pixelsword4174d ago

There's been a few 1080p, 60fps games this gen

Qrphe4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

1080p should be an easy task for the new gen (it's been a standard for years on PC).

Don't expect 60fps on most games though. I say this because most developers will favor graphical effects over higher framerate most of the time.

FarCryLover1824174d ago

Graphics, AI, PHYSICS, destruction, more NPC's on screen.

madjedi4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

I would like to see more games, make use of a more realistic physics destruction engine like the digital molecular matter engine, lucasarts used in the force unleashed games.

And a definitive reduction or all together elimination of loading screens or cutscenes to mask the load screens.

Is a open world game like fallout/skyrim with battlefield bad company 2's level of destruction or better being too greedy?

Does nvidia's physx engine ect do the same thing, ie objects respond more like they do in real life. Wood splinters, glass shatters, metal bends ect.

I could see sony show the infant stages of vr, they have a personal headset tv screen equivalent to a 150 inch screen. Motion controls(move) and add a head tracking device with built in high def speakers and there you go. You could even sub the move for a regular ds3.

Of course if they did do this, it would be a very niche market at first, but as technology progresses over time i could definitely see it take off.

Pillsbury14174d ago

True 1080p standard 60 fps for all games. True multi tasking like opening up the browser while gaming, an improved browser that doesn't crash my ps3 all the time. An overall better smoother experience than we already have. Ps4 I am ready. Long live play.

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.

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What is the point of Xbox?

Xbox has repeated the same terrible mistakes for over a decade. The reason is simple: its priorities are back-to-front.

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purple10121h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

Jingsing5h ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast5h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

PapaBop2h ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

XiNatsuDragnel20h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

Einhander197219h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow13h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

solideagle57m ago(Edited 57m ago)

Genuinely curious: how is Sony (hardware company) threat to Windows (operating system/software company) business?

isarai17h ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

P_Bomb16h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

NotoriousWhiz6h ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

TSA asks what is the future for Xbox.

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Chocoburger21h ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

anast21h ago

They have a plan. It's to move everything toward streaming and mobile. This is just the next step.

Cacabunga20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

With half of the money they spent, they could have been on the very top and the gaming industry would be way bigger than it is.. encourage developers, indies, make them grow trust them and they will deliver.

Tody_za19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

What are you talking about Cacabunga? The Xbox faithful insisted that Microsoft has infinite money, and after Activision they should buy Square Enix and Capcom before Sony does. There was no chance ever that Microsoft would do this. They would use their infinite millions and Bitcoins to invest in 50 new IP and beat everyone.

Tody_za17h ago

Did I really need to add a /s to my comment...

SonyStyled15h ago

The Parent company of Xbox spent billions on publishers, not Xbox

andy8520h ago

To ruin great studios it's looking like

Skuletor20h ago

Sure, a plan to be a more hated game company than EA. Ubisoft were recently giving them a run for their money but I think Xbox have really knocked it out the park with their latest stunt.

neutralgamer199220h ago

Absolutely not, their whole plan is at odd with what MS wants

Phil wants GP to become big
MS wants to sell games and make billions

GP can’t be sustained with AAA games which take 3-5 years and 7 figure budgets. Only go put those games on GP day one. Why do you think games are coming out on other platforms?

People want a change and want Phil gone without realizing if someone new comes along they may want to change everything again so we just keep going in circles. Phil has to realize that and give clear message on the direction of Xbox

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