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Next-Gen Microsoft Exclusive Hinted, Could Be Like Halo & Gears

NowGamer: Black Tusk Studios, a newly formed Microsoft studio, hints it could be working on a new IP that might be a new space shooter like Gears Of War or Halo.

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Shadonic4166d ago

I don't really want anymore shooters -_-

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Megaton4165d ago

Too bad, you're gonna get 'em.

greenpowerz4165d ago

Holy crap! Are there any xbox fans in here?

BitbyDeath4165d ago

Don't think they leave the PS3 articles.

ALLWRONG4165d ago

BitbyDeath you got that backwards

Nice try though

BitbyDeath4165d ago

It goes both ways, was just trying for a bit of lighthearted humour. :-)

ALLWRONG4165d ago

It goes one way much more than the other on this site.

tiffac0084165d ago

@BitbyDeath

Your wrong it goes three ways.

Hmm... That sounded so wrong...

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SilentNegotiator4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

"Could Be Like Halo & Gears"
....so, it's a shooter?

What do Halo and Gears really have in common, other than being shooters? One is a very horizontal game (Gears) and the other is a fairly vertical game. You make Gears any more like Halo in gameplay and it isn't Gears. You make Halo any more like Gears and it loses many of its gameplay strengths.

Sounds like NowGamer just trying to bolster their obvious choice of favorite for next gen (since it will have an "X" on it, most likely) by hyping with two popular titles, excusing it with a random Twitter post.

ZombieNinjaPanda4165d ago

Exactly. Seems developers aren't capable of unique ideas anymore, so they just slap together something that seems to be a trend. Instead of coming up with their own unique ideas, they're just trying to combine two things which wouldn't work too well together to cash out easily.

SilentNegotiator4165d ago

Don't blame the developers just yet.

Nowgamer got that idea from a "twitter sleuth"; and being very.....eh, "oriented" towards a certain brand....they'll gladly spread the rumor to create hype.

rpd1234165d ago

Well both are sci fi shooters with alien races and bad ass protaganists. Personally, I think they should branch out from that though.

BertlSenix4165d ago

Developers try unique stuff

ON THE PLAYSTATION 3
Journey,Uncharted,Heavy Rain,Beyond Two Souls,The last of Us(a 2nd NEW AAAAAA IP from ONE developer),the unfinished swan and a lot more...

BUT WHAT DO "GAMERS" aka shitheads of this gen buy?CALL OF DUTY AND COPY+PASTE Garbage in general cause the justin Biebers took over.

Old McGroin4165d ago

@ BerttlSenix

The "unique" games you mention aren't as unique as you say.

Journey - third person puzzle game.
Uncharted - third person explore/shoot 'em up.
Heavy Rain - this gens version of the point and click adventure game.
The Last Of Us - another third person game with an AI partner.

All great games but nothing new, just spruced up versions of games from the past. Not too sure about Beyond and Unfinished Swan.

Uncharted might have exciting, spectacular set-peices but it's still a third person game with bells on.
Journey might have drop in/out co-op but it's still a third person puzzle game.

Let's face it, original ideas are few and far between these days.

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

"Could Be Like Halo & Gears"

MS is amazing!!! Innovation.

Pillsbury14165d ago

Your sarcasm is awesome, surprise! They are making something unoriginal like there yearly halo/gears/forza.

Kingdom Come4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

I love how small a percentage of N4G Commentors read articles prior to commenting on them.

1) The Gears and Halo similarity is in regards to scale and genre. In regards to gameplay Gears and Halo hold massive differentiations.
2) This is by no means a confirmation of the unannounced games genre as this particular quote was taken from an "Internet sleuth".

Read the article next time.

palaeomerus4165d ago

OMG! PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale and Little Big Planet Karting! Twisted Metal! Wheeee! So $#@#ing Original!

andibandit4165d ago

@ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney

hmmm, so in your other comments, you praise TLOU which looks ALOT like UC, then come in and troll...

Good job.

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showtimefolks4165d ago

well easier said than done. also if there already is gears and halo why would we want another game that similar. give us something new and fresh

i really hope MS takes advantage of crackdown franchise because that IP has a lot of room to grow and huge potential

3-4-54165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

Yea I think we've gotten enough shooters, and maybe Dev's should focus on giving us combo/hybrid game types on the next gen.

* Give us more customization

* Give us more options

* Give us more replay value

* Give us Better Art Styles, and not just HD Brown & Grey graphics.

* Humans can see over 5 million different colors....Use Them !

* Give us good stories that aren't cliche.

* Give us something unexpected

Solid_Snake4165d ago

Then don't get new MS console... that's pretty much most of what you're going to get. Oh, and kinect :-/

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4165d ago

@shadonic.

I do want more shooters. Oh well for you I guess?

I love that MS has an exclusive coming out, and now it's... "Oh.. another shooter."

LMAO at the SDF.

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Qrphe4165d ago

If the 720 is indeed integrated with Kinect 2, definitely expect Kinect features (or even controls in the worst of the cases).

ArmrdChaos4165d ago

I am sure most will take that over a Wonderbook title any day. Some of you people try too hard sometimes for any of it to really matter.

mysterym4166d ago

Given what halo and gears did for console first person shooters and third person shooters respectively, i'm excited to see what emerges.

Jinkies4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

I understand Halo but what did Gears do, it pretty much had things that were done before like the over the shoulder gameplay from RE4 or even had things which during it's development at the time other games like Uncharted which was in development longer then Gears. already had the same ideas.

lastofgen4165d ago

Gears of War (2006) was unveiled and shown off at e3 2005 and Uncharted (2007) was unveiled at e3 2006.

Ben_Grimm4165d ago

Gears was still a huge success that further put gaming in the spotlight and became a staple/household name.

All games have ideas from others it doesn't mean they're bad or shouldn't be recognized. There were games before Uncharted that that did the same thing too. That arguement could be applied to almost any game.

SephirothX214165d ago

Come on now. Epic games are the creators of the Unreal Engine. Don't say that they're not creative.

Jinkies4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

@lastofgen

Just because someting is shown off and released first dosen't mean anything

As I said Uncharted was in development longer, Nolan North since he had played the character since 2005 when they brought him in to do the motion capturing, then they would of had to start planning it before they got to that development stage.

They started Uncharted under the codename "Big" straight after Jak 3 was finished and went gold. So that would of been October/November 2004

Uncharted was in development for longer and didn't release untill later because ND had to do the motion capturing which apparently took nearly a year to complete and thats just the mo cap.

@SephirothX21

What...when did I say they that. Please don't make crap up to try and start an argument.

maniacmayhem4165d ago

Good lord Jinkies take your own advice.

You don't think Gears was in development and planning well before 2006? It takes year(S) to make these types of AAA games.

And what does Uncharted being in development longer have anything to do with what Gears brought to the table? Nothing.

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Jinkies4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

@maniacmayhem

Don't come off as an arse maniacmayhem, thats how you went from 5 bubbles to 3, remember that.

"You don't think Gears was in development and planning well before 2006? It takes year(S) to make these types of AAA games."

Yeah but they didn't do motion capturing did they.

"And what does Uncharted being in development longer have anything to do with what Gears brought to the table? Nothing."

because people keep saying "Oh Uncharted copied Gears" all the time even though Gears wasn't shown off when Uncharted was 2/3 years into development. If it wasn't shown off then it couldn't of coped, people make out because Gears was released first that they didn't copy anyone despite Killswitch being a massive infuencea and RE4

EDIT

OMG thank you CalvinKlein...perfect timing, you've just help me prove my point. As I said above if Uncharted was in development longer how could it NOT "exsist" without Gears which probably hadn't even started development or was shown off

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"and sony puts out WAYYY MORE SHOOTERS than MS"

Are you serious...

Sony puts out more of everything...racing, platforming, third person shooters, RPGs, indie games etc. MS just does shooters

humbleopinion4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

@Jinkies
Wrong 1: Gears was already shown behind close doors to other developers before GDC 2005 - it was a selling point of the new unreal engine. And regardless of motion capture, ND didn't show any cover based gameplay until way after Gears introduced this mechanic.
And it was identical - with the exact same cover to cover manouvers, something that was never shown before gears. You don't have to be such a fanboy: admitting that Uncharted copied the mechanics from gears 1to1 is practically admitting a fact. It doesn't make any less of a game.

Wrong 2: Sony makes more shooters, hack&slashers and platformers. MS makes more racers, RPGs and obviously more indie games (not to mention the indie channel alone on the X360 has more games than the entire PS catalog).
If you don't count simply go to gamerankings.com and browse each platform by genre.

Hey, but that's pretty good trolling what you did here :) sidetracking the topic from the next-gen game a new studio is working on.
For all I care, this gen can die and it's time to bring out the next gen, so that' really good news.

maniacmayhem4165d ago

"Don't come off as an arse maniacmayhem, thats how you went from 5 bubbles to 3, remember that."

Funny how you know I had 5 bubbs even though your account was made this year in October. Which tells me this Jinkies must be a multiple account maybe from another that was banned or stuck at one.

You just remember that.

"because people keep saying "Oh Uncharted copied Gears" all the time even though Gears"

And nice edit after the fact that Klien stated it and who else says that Uncharted is a Gears clone and how is that even relevant to the topic of this article which you have still managed to not answer and continue to troll.

Qrphe4165d ago

So Uncharted is a copy of Gears because of cover mechanics?
Are you guys implying Gears invented the cover mechanic?

Are you the same people that say that Halo invented a lot of things of its own such as regen, driving cars, melee and grenade buttons?

Geezus

DigitalRaptor4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

@ CalvinKlein

Wow! Okay, so let's begin:

"uncharted was a copy of gears, without gears uncharted would not exist"

So Gears came out November 7, 2006. Uncharted 1 came out November 19, 2007 - a year later. You can't completely redesign your game and its gameplay to copy another game in the space of 12 months. Since Uncharted would've already been in the advanced stages of development with all its mechanics working as designed (after years of work following Jak 3), I don't think that's feasible. Though, even if they did copy Gears's cover mechanic, the games are fundamentally different in their design and gameplay elsewhere. So it's not exactly a strike against Uncharted or Naughty Dog. Nice try.

Killzone was a self-proclaimed foray into sci-fi from Sony's Guerrilla, going after the Halo gamer. No one is denying that, and it's well documented. I do like Killzone's more grounded background and gamplay which added something valid to the sci-fi shooter genre.

Resistance 1-3 is INSOMNIAC GAMES, not Sony.

All-Stars (and LittleBigPlanet Karting to some extent) is the game that Sony fans were actually asking for for quite some time, so your point as some sort of downside to Sony's developmental stirring pot is irrelevant. Gamers wanted it based on existing Nintendo games that they knew were good. They wanted it, they asked for it, they got it.

PlayStation Move was in development as early as 2000 with videos of proof out there on YouTube. Now I'm not saying Nintendo weren't also working on Wii as far back as that, but we have proof that Sony were working on motion tech before Nintendo announced anything of a Wii-mote controlled technlogy in development. This is just some more misinformation that you guys love spreading. We tell you the facts and now I'm convinced that you're just ignoring it to troll.

Sony creates way more shooters, just like with most genres by comparison to Microsoft, because they have more studios making games. Now that's common sense. When it comes to shooters, Killzone 2 is more highly rated than Halo 4. It's rated that same as Halo Reach. KZ3 is rated lower than Halo 4, but not much lower. Halo 3: ODST is rated lower than KZ3. I don't like using aggregated sites like Metacritic, but make of those stats what you will.

Sony's shooters are varied when compared in terms of background, story and gameplay. And they did put guns in inFamous, but it was the enemies using them. Cole doesn't need guns because he had fuggin lightning coming out of his hands. Idiot.

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@ humbleopinion

I don't think Microsoft MAKES more racers, RPGs or indie games. They have and always have had third party companies making games exclusively for them, but not making themselves. Perhaps racers because of Forza and what was Project Gotham some years ago, but that's it.
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I know this is ridiculously off topic, but just clearing things up.

Tr10wn4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

@Jinkies

"Don't come off as an arse maniacmayhem, thats how you went from 5 bubbles to 3, remember that."

Actually no, he went down to 3 bubbles because in this site your opinion must always be that Sony is Godlike and anything else just suck and is inferior and if you dont agree be ready for the horde of disagrees that awaits you, the bubble system is broken you can't let a horde of sony fanboys control your opinions because you dont agree with them i rarely post here because of that and i have 2 bubbles lol ready for one after this post.

Has for the topic i think Gears did alot for this gen lets face it Uncharted one was a ripoff from a lot of series especially tomb raider but it has things from gears, even tho gears was that great i like it alot and MS should stick making them.

Kingdom Come4165d ago

Actually, Gears of War had been in development prior to Uncharted's.
Gears of War started development shortly after the release of the original Unreal Tournament back in 1999. It was originally titled "Unreal Warfare" and was intended to be a large multiplayer title. Development was delayed and following the release of Unreal Tournament 2004, the titles development was resumed, taking on the new identity of Gears of War.

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune was in development following the release of Jak 3, of which released at the tail end of 2004, development hasn't begun of the game until the technical staff had been assembled, presumably making the starting date early 2005.

Gazondaily4165d ago

Lol Jinkies, you just got caught out really badly for your multi account making antics. For shame!

And regarding your point about Gears of War, I think it's safe to say, you have been well and truly schooled by manicmayhem and others.

Hicken4165d ago

You shouldn't even have bothered, Jinkies.

The same way they claim that "you can't say anything negative about Sony," that's also true in this, a Microsoft-themed article. No way would they let you see anything resembling "correctness" while you weren't kissing Microsoft's rear.

Simply put, they're not gonna hear it.

Imalwaysright4165d ago

Neither Uncharted and Gears are original or creative. They both copied concepts and gameplay mechanics from other games so who gives a shit about wich one came 1st? You know what came 1st? Killswitch, RE4, Pitfall, MGS, PoP etc etc. Those are the games that really pushed the bounderies and moved gaming forward and those are the games that ND and Epic copied. LMAO arguing about wich copy came 1st!

BTW @ humbleopinion Indie games made by MS? Really? Indie games? REALLY?!!

shempo4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

gears was a rip off killswitch a ps2 title
to the new kids who started this gen go check this game....gears brought some stupid aliens,zero story and 4 steroids typical americans marines,nothing that innovated the genre,moving on

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cooperdnizzle4165d ago

To all of you, who cares what came first, uncharted is ten times better than gears of war. Part one two and three, the awards speak for themselves. Anyone who says gears is better hasn't played uncharted. Plat-former/shooter/cinematic/ great writing/great voice acting. Gears just sit there and shoot. And i play all games own ever console including the wii u. So suck on that!

LAZL0-Panaflex4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

Uncharted 1&2 were great, but 3 was a letdown. Campaign and multiplayer bigtime letdown. If they just kept part 2's multiplayer the same and fixed the disconnects and added sprint it also would have been great,...but they chose to copy call of duty,...plus the graphics and textures looked not as good as the first two games,...i think maybe adding 3-d had something to do with that, because killzone 3 also did looked dummied down compared to the previous installment.

I dont know why you guys take these comments so seriously. Its not like you designed the games. You would think someone was dissin your mother.

Gears 1 had better graphics then part 2,...but part 3 was fixed nicely.

God of war was tight.

Halo was a "B" or "B+" maybe.

Resistance series was average although part 3 looked good.

Both infamous games were awesome.

Lesson of the day...both consoles got good games, competition is good for both sides, don't be a slave to a brand,...because quite possibly apple, samsung, valve, can come along and knock their dicks in the dirt. Every dog has its day.

Take the pebble from my hand grasshopper!

Lvl_up_gamer4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

The gears of war franchise is overall higher rated then the Uncharted franchise stated by the industry.

The gears of war franchise has sold more then the Uncharted franchise as voted by the gaming community.

I own both franchises and I prefer the gears franchise over the uncharted franchise....

If you enjoy the uncharted franchise over the gears franchise then that is simply your preference....but your opinion is far from fact and clearly you don't speak for the gaming community since reviewers and gamers have voted and they chose the gears of war franchise

cooperdnizzle4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

Level up gamer you are smoking crack. Uncharted has won ten times the awards gears has, and no you are flat out wrong, gears is not rated higher then the uncharted series. Go a head and flat out lie, whatever helps you sleep at night/. 88 to 91 gears. 96 to 91 uncharted 2, 94 to 91 uncharted 3. You do the math smart guy. And these are the metitcritic scores. Not to mention everyone knows uncharted two has won more awards then any game in one year ever!!!!!!

Kingdom Come4165d ago (Edited 4165d ago )

The Gears of War franchise has an average score of 92.67.
The Uncharted franchise has an average score of 92 precisely. (89 including Golden Abyss)

If you prefer the Uncharted franchise, that is perfectly acceptable, but don't attempt to belittle the fantastic quality of the Gears of War franchise.

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princejb1344165d ago

actually is opposite for me
what has halo done that it hasnt done in the other games
gears was awesome when it first came out and thats mostly what everyone played on xbox live

deafdani4165d ago

Guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Cover mechanics. From a third person shooting game released in 1999.

So, tell me. What's this discussion really about? What does Uncharted and Gears have in common, besides both being third person shooters with cover mechanics?

Nothing. They're as different as two games can be being in the same genre.

>_>

Imalwaysright4165d ago

And i thought that Killswitch was the 1st TPS with cover system.
+ helpful.

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jimbobwahey4165d ago

More exclusives to bolster Microsoft's first party line-up is only a good thing in my opinion. They seem to be relying a bit too heavily on Halo, Gears of War and Forza, so something to add to that and provide an incentive to invest in their next generation console would do them well I think, especially since many people have doubts given their heavy focus on Kinect.

memots4165d ago

As long that it's not another kinect on rail game maybe there is hope.

lastofgen4165d ago

I agree. I'm all for Xbox 720, but if this title is a kinect title, then I'll be bummed.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7215h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga1h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218343m ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

purple1014h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos3h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac3h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic44m ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 11h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 9h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 6h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN23h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 1h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies21h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 9h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic19h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9018h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 10h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 10h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 7h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 9h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 9h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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