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Sony has been developing PlayStation 4 since August 2010

Sony has been developing the "next generation PlayStation" since August 2010, according to the online CV of an ex-SCEA R&D director.

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SandWitch4316d ago (Edited 4316d ago )

That's normal, Sony already had NGP prototypes in 2009 (or even earlier)

dafegamer4316d ago

lol why the disagrees you comment is pure fact

guitarded774316d ago

@ dafegamer

Either GynGa has formed a fan base like everyone who has been here long enough, or a random disagree clan has shown up to the topic. Those are usually the excuses for disagrees with true comments.

On Topic: I don't see how anyone could be surprised by this. Engineers spend years developing prototype after prototype and spend millions on R&D. When a finished product hits the store shelves, it is the culmination of much work with many skeletons of hardware, options and features lost or honed in the development process. Anyone who thinks Sony, MS or Nintendo just throw together some hardware and write some software for it are morons.

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hotrider124315d ago (Edited 4315d ago )

from guitarded
Anyone who thinks Sony, MS or Nintendo just throw together some hardware and write some software for it are morons

I hate to disagree bro. but was not the 360 thrown together back in 2006 without QUALITY ASSURANCE checking hardware first?? was their not RROD,E74,GPU chip overheating, melting games,loud 747 airplane fan noise, EJECT TRAY problems anyone who think that did not happen is a moron.

zeeshan4315d ago

Actually to be honest, I am surprised by this. I'd always thought PS4 would have been in development right from the launch of PS3. This stuff takes time, experimenting with new ideas, seeing what's the best way to get the price right and still have a powerful machine, get feedback from studios around the globe, a lot of pre-alpha brain storming and what not.

MaxXAttaxX4315d ago (Edited 4315d ago )

At least, that's what we read on the internetz.

So this could be true.

@zeeshan,
That's what the PS3 was for....maybe

BitbyDeath4315d ago

@MAiKU,
Thinking and developing are two different things.
Ken Kutaragi who is currently working on the PS4 announced back in 2007 that he had a vision for the PS4, PS5 & PS6.

Visions of course change over time as does the technology.

http://www.eetimes.com/elec...

guitarded774315d ago (Edited 4315d ago )

@ hotrider12

You don't have to be sorry for disagreeing with me, friendly discussion and debate makes us all more aware. I understand your point with the hardware failures in the early 360's. But to think MS just threw together the 360 without investing millions of dollars and thousands of man hours is naive.

Even with a huge investment of time and money, oversight still exists. There are plenty of examples of engineering and software disasters due to oversight and while it's not necessarily a disaster, the original chipset in the first generation of XBOX 360's was an oversight which may or may not have been caught before production began.

Fact is, the big 3 invest an amazing amount of time and money each generation. Some hardware, software and features from this gen are evolutions of tech from previous generations, some are completely new. These companies have offices with electronic and software engineers where people are constantly looking into what the next piece of hardware will be.

SilentNegotiator4315d ago

Hardware always gets planned/developed for several years. This news isn't remotely surprising.

r1sh124315d ago

Im sure sony will have been exploring ps4 options when the ps3 got released.
Any company the size of Sony will be doing the same.

miyamoto4315d ago

Don't worry the PS4 will do native 1080p, 2K and 4K tech developed by Sony that will put the Retina Displays to good use.

Gaming1014315d ago

lol who gives a crap about what internet fanboy trolls think anyway? Agree or disagree all you want you, it means nothing - don't get worked up over some unemployed loser in their underwear hitting a disagree button on every comment he sees.

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Lior4316d ago

He's wrong ngp began development in 2009 so why does it say 2010

TheBigShamona4315d ago

I remember the leaked prototype ngp image that was a sliding version similar to the pspgo. I also remember reading that, that version had overheating issues so it was Changed to its current design:)

sikbeta4315d ago

Tell me is coming next year plz! I need new consoles, next needs to start in 2013...

ziggurcat4315d ago

it's likely going to be a 2014 release. no announcement at E3 this year is more or less a confirmation of that.

Mintyrebel4315d ago

@Ziggurkat I agree I think they will release probably holiday 2014 but I think they will be announced E3 2013 to build some Hype.

ArtificiallyYours4315d ago

The fact N4G cannot filter repetitive information is laughable at best. This is hardly news for sure.

Maddens Raiders4315d ago (Edited 4315d ago )

PS4. Sounds so good, although I must say I'm loving the hell out of the PS3 right about now.

xursz4315d ago

Wondering why you got disagrees. PS3 hate crew must be in town today.

Tonester9254315d ago

Do people just want a PS4 so they can have PC graphics? That's kind of selfish.

RevXM4315d ago (Edited 4315d ago )

I guess you dont realise that every new generation of consoles have not only have had better graphics but have made gameplay and other stuff change also.

When people uppgraded from P1 to Ps2, do you think they didt just for graphics? or from ps2 to ps3?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This KZ2 interview is about a lot of stuff both eyecandy and directly gameplay related stuff.
Kz2 IMO best fps this gen. Crazy beastly visuals, awesome AI, awesome physics, awesome Gameplay and feel. I love the atmosphere and the little touches everywhere. And that stuff is thanks to the skill of the developer and resources they get. The same stuff obviously couldnt be done on Ps2 and thats why I look forward to ps4!

Just better looking games arent enough, but thats more of a Developer issue if better visuals are the only thing they can pull off with wastly more powerful hardware. No that would be boring in the long run.

Also if the next consoles couldnt do better than current PC games technically Id be really sad lol. Current high end PC hardware is so much more capable than what shows in current games.

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Ken224316d ago

Give me give me now >:O!!!!!

bwazy4315d ago

For all those games that don't exist for it :P

garos824316d ago

of course they have just as xbox is doing and nintendo with wii u. people think that developing a console is as "easy" as developing a game. surely the console has so many factors and trials and test etc before its released. leaving it till the last minute to develop is rather foolish imo

miyamoto4316d ago (Edited 4316d ago )

My Body is Ready!
Bring It On, Sony!
Bring It On!

"If you can build a better machine and it's going to come out a little bit later," he continued, "that's better than rushing something to market that's going to run out of gas for the long term."

....hmn I wonder what console he is talking about...

JellyJelly4315d ago

Probably one of the other consoles that has been outselling them all this gen.

stuna14315d ago

There has only been 1 console out selling them this gen! Unless of course the US does = the world!?

OT: Whenever the ps4 does come out, I'm sure it will continue to offer me what I have come to expect from a sony product.

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Nelson M4316d ago

I'll test it for you anytime

akaakaaka4315d ago

well they should let me test it I broke 3 playstions 3 in 3 years, if it last on me it means they did a good job lol XD just like the slim ps3 !

Rockefellow4315d ago

Lucky you. I've only had one "fat" PS3 break on me, but two Slims.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken11h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g20h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing20h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H920h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola16h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66919h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle19h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 12h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 12h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 7h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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