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Wii U using new tech/GPUs, power kept reasonable for cost

Nintendoeverything: "Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has, unsurprisingly, said that its new console makes use of new GPUs and technology. However, the company has pushed the specs – such as processing power – to the max so that the console will be affordable to a wide array of consumers."

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MrWonderful4334d ago

Is it really possible?! Have they really found a way to surpass an ascended wii?!!!

DigitalAnalog4334d ago (Edited 4334d ago )

In order to keep costs low, I can understand why Wii-U is made the way it is. Unless of course, gamers are willing to shell out an extra $400-$500 if they want the "latest-n-greatest" next-gen. However, assuming they do get the best, how are they going to deal with the heat and power supply? There's a reason why gaming rigs have big chassis.

Deadpool6164334d ago (Edited 4334d ago )

Well, it seems as though Nintendo has done it again. Hopefully it's as affordable as the rumors are saying.

By the way...nice pic.

mamotte4334d ago

Do what exactly...? The most powerful console? Nope. The most expensive? neither...

Hisiru4334d ago (Edited 4334d ago )

He is probably talking about "most affordable".

ozstar4334d ago

Won next gen.

Cheapest > Most expensive every time.

Deadpool6164334d ago (Edited 4334d ago )

I shouldn't be so vague. Nintendo is usually the most affordable is what I meant. Sorry about that. XP

Nutsack4334d ago (Edited 4334d ago )

@Digital Analog

Dealing with the heat is why cores are cut down in nanometers, using less power.

We've seen the chips in current gen PS3/360 shrink from like 90nm to half its size. Next gen chips of 25nm's or less are expected.

Same way that the PSVita uses certain low power quad core CPU. The smartphones have driven the CPU and GPU market to low power consumption, low heat producing production in a way that wouldn't have happened without the smartphones. Expect this to continue, thus no problems next gen to have more power than the current 360, PS3 and WiiU aka this gen and still have more power than it.

2nd, with cutting the size of the chips and changing up the architecture like they did with PSVita, the less electricity will get used and the less heat produced. The same reason why quad core smartphones and tablets don't need fans to cool it like laptops or desktops. Same way the PSVita doesn't run hot, even while it has power close to current gen consoles, for sure beating last gen homeconsoles by far.

The reason why gaming rigs have big chassis is because PC hardware has a lot of plug in stuff, cards to plug in, 3.5 inch HDD's instead of 2.5 inch that are in consoles, big other drives, a PC is another thing than a console. Has always been, will always be.

DigitalAnalog4334d ago (Edited 4334d ago )

While I agree with your comment, you didn't address the issue whether or not the next system will curtail the best system specs on the market in that particular year. Everything you said, has already been applied the Wii-U.

Second, gaming rigs have big chassis due to heat and air flow. Higher powered graphic cards and CPU tend to bring out tremendous heat. Any mid size non-gaming rig could do everything you just stated. To classify gaming-rigs simply because of the amount of "plug-ins" is misrepresenting it to say the least.

The real question is, (with the rumored PS4 going the way of "off-shelf" parts for design) what range would the next system usage? Take into consideration design and value per unit. Hence, a lot of rumored specs ended up on the AMD table. Anyone who thinks they would get the best of the best and then assumes smaller die size chips will resolve the issue is fooling themselves.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7221h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle8h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18815h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio5h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7723m ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21836h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga5h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus2333m ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7221m ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10110h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac9h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1018h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic6h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2m ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein19h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno16h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k414h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson14h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu15h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson14h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.