That bigger price difference is an interesting mystery. I would think something will happen over time to align that more logically. Perhaps a price increase on base PS5 unfortunately.
If you figure it out please post...
You're assuming they've got some unnaturally big profit margin on this, with no evidence of how much this costed them to make.
If they're just trying to maintain normal profit margins, then failure on the Pro just means they won't offer more niche higher performance consoles anymore, and stick to what the masses can afford.
Something tells me they'll do fine though
Coulda woulda shoulda
I agree with @hot - it's simpler and cheaper to ship the hardware to consumers vs. racking it up in data centers across the country and performing technical marvels to try to reduce latency. And it will be more expensive for us to rent vs. buy.
Bandwidth and latency has been improving but our expectations on how much data we need keeps growing too. 10 years from now we won't just need a 2-d 4k/60 image. We'll be asking for more (hopefully VR) and that will again...
I'm sure they aren't thrilled that outlets like CNET/MSN/Wired are getting these first looks vs. them.
Whether or not you believe there's bias at DF, it sure doesn't seem like Sony is thrilled with them. Cerny himself had to reply to some of their misleading statements in the past.
@neutral - companies selling things to consumers that are willing to pay for them... Goes beyond gaming even
This should be the evidence you need to demonstrate it's not price gouging. Xbox more then anyone should by all accounts selling on thin margins in order to grow their base against the dominant competitor. It makes no sense for them to willingly price themselves out of the mass market.
Exactly. If people don't think it's worth it they won't buy it. And eventually it should get cheaper
And most people won't buy a $700 console. I agree.
It's not aimed at most people.
The mental gymnastics I'm going through is trying to understand why you're upset that you have to pay more for the disc drive when that's been the case ever since digital only versions of consoles have been introduced.
I think time will tell. For well off consumers that regularly buy $700 phones this will be something to buy during the holidays.
Yeah published US prices don't include taxes.
Are your VAT taxes somewhere around 17%
Including VAT in the published price doesn't seems like a good idea lol
I don't understand the reason for the Euro price being so high. Must be something outside of a simple currency conversion.How much is a PS5 where you live?
Providing the choice for high end console gamers to pay 40% more for machine that is 40% more powerful.
Worst.... decision....ever
Oh wow. This logic is .. quite amazing
Uh, no. It's simplifying SKUs by selling the drive separately. Already been done with the Slim, right?
Don't confuse the perception of a high price with some kind of conspiracy theory against discs.
The digital version is expensive. And if you want a drive it's a bit more expensive. Nothing to see here
Number 1 missing the point. Number 2?
There's a reason existing PS5s are still $500.
Same reason your "new" Xbox models also seem overpriced.
Same reason you still can't get cheap Nvidia 3070 cards.
Same reason your grocery bill is crazy high.
Same reason you haven't seen ANY prices go down in the last several years.
That reason isn't going to change when the PS5, next Xbox, or whatever comes out. The damage is done and it's not the fault of gre...
Pro won't make AI better, but will still increase resolution/FPS on existing games even if they're CPU bottlenecked. Specifics will differ based on game of course.
Doesn't the VAT vary by county? If the VAT needs to be embedded/hidden in the price of the advertised product, wouldn't Sony have to publish the worst case price if trying to generalize across the entire EU? Trying to make sense of it...