Can Bungie save Destiny?

MWEB GameZone writes: "When we finally entered Destiny, we found her embrace to be cold, repetitive and hollow. Destiny cost Bungie millions to make (to date it's the most expensive video game ever made), but the loss of reputation is going to cost Bungie even more.

But can Bungie still save Destiny?"

[SonZeRo]

Another possibly great game possibly ruined. Lets see what Bungie can do.

[Sillicur]

Bungie has a mammoth task ahead of them :(

[Eonjay]

I'm sure they are up to the challenge. What I do find odd is that the same folks who are criticizing the game were the ones praising the beta. Thats why I have a hard time believing them. I liked the beta and so I bought the game because I knew I already liked it.

[guitarded77]

It's the highest selling new IP ever. People playing it are loving it. Some critics give it a mediocre review and all of the sudden it's doomed.

[cleft5]

The core of Destiny is a really fun game and the story is not bad at all. There is definitely a lot of lore too, what Bungie is lacking now is content. They need to release more content for the game and it needs to be free. The paid expansion is fine, but the base game needs more content. If Bungie does that then Destiny will be fine.

I am enjoying Destiny, but the lack of mp features and the ability to connect with random people is just unacceptable, especially from a game made by Bungie.

I should be able to random join up with other people for every single story mission. The damn game requires you always be online anyways, so there is no excuse. The fact that this feature isn't there is just inexcusable. There is so many features that this game is lacking, if Bungie quickly updates the game with these features it will be fine, otherwise it will go the way of Defiance.

[Arnon]

The reason reviewers were able to give lower scores to this game (even though they enjoyed the beta) is due to the fact that a beta is not a full game. In fact, the beta was designed to entice you into buying the full game, as only a fraction of content was available for it, and therefore gave the impression of a complete game, which it was for what it was. However that should not necessitate an indication to the quality of the game in its entirety.

[Mr-Dude]

Well there are people who dont like Destiny and have actually played it, and there are those who hate it for the hype it created or whatever reason they believe in.

I played Destiny now for a good 72 hours, I am level 25 and there are things what are missing yes, things what are annoying yes. But overall the game is fun, and the people playing it are having fun.

- Proximity chat! Why not bungie?

- The game is build on grinding for loot, but when I get a Legendary Engram (which is very rare) I don't want Uncommon items!!! Or Rare, I want Legendary items! For my class!

-Matchmaking for weekly strikes, Nightfall strikes and Raids!

-More options for interaction with other players besides, waving, pointing, dancing and sitting.... -_-

-missing a trading system! Or some sort of auctions

-The Tower is the social hub for us, but for a game which is heavely promoted to be SOCIAL, this has to be the most UNSOCIAL game ever. They need to fix this, esspecially in the tower.

[XBLSkull]

Gonna play for another day or two and then get maximum trade in value for it.

Strikes are zero fun, multiplayer is lack luster, raids aren't even there.

no problem charging you for extra content already though, its already lacking already that extra stuff should have been in the game to begin with. No Destiny 2 for me, sorry, you blew it already.

[mark3214uk]

i dont get it i think the game is not that bad? i dont normally play these style games but im actually enjoying it

what were people expecting that they havnt got?

[Chupa-Chupa]

they have a 10 year plan with Destiny, so anything is possible, but once Halo comes out...by bye Destiny for ever.

[HeWhoWalks]

For you, perhaps. Destiny is an MMO, though, so the games really aren't comparable, in that regard.

I tend not to look at these things so black-and-white. Halo 5 releasing in late 2015 has no bearing on a late 2014 release. It will just be a new game to play.

[theDECAY]

If you believe that Destiny is an MMO you have been fooled like the rest of them.

[user367272]

Mmo stands for massive multiplayer online..and going on repeated side quest with a couple of buddies is not massive.

[Provolone24]

lol Halo has nothing on Destiny. Last time I checked, Halo isn't a FPS/MMO/RPG/third-person adventure.

[plut0nash]

How are sales looking?

[Eonjay]

It was the most preordered new IP of all time so I imagine it is also the best selling new IP of all time. Watch_Dogs is the current champion so if that game could sell 4 million in a week, I'm sure Destiny could do twice that easily.

[plut0nash]

That's good for Destiny - but will it cover their costs? Hmm...

[Lev1903]

They already made their 500 Million back. So financially the game is a succes.

[HanCilliers]

@Eonjay that's exactly my thoughts. I find it hard to believe that critics could praise the alpha/beta so much and be so disappointed in the final. Most of them saying Destiny is boring, was there no hint of that? I really don't understand this

[Einhert]

People are trying to say those criticising Destiny only played the BETA and now they did not play it enough to form a proper opinion?

Which is it?

In the BETA there was no way to know

- what other loot there would be
- How much content there was going to be
- What the overall story and narrative was like
- What other enemies there were
- What the other zones were like
- What the dialogue and voice acting was like (they said they were going to fix it up)

The BETA was solid for what it was and to say the full game could be judged off that is a complete and utter farce.

Your reasoning is faulty.

[Sillicur]

Well said about the BETA. There was no way to know how the full game would be and what would be lacking

[HanCilliers]

Not saying the full game should've been judged, but certain elements could surely been picked up on. To go from "this is gonna be The Game" to "dafaq is this" is a long way.

[Mikelarry]

This is why i cant take reviews or awards serioulsy. In the ads before lunch most of this site were saying how destiny is the second coming . I am enjoying destiny but i can also see its faults hopefully bungie are up to the task to improve on this as i really want this IP to do well

[HanCilliers]

I agree with you that "this site" bought into the hype. But they also have to still give their review.

[Soldierone]

Seriously. It even advertises on the box "winner of 180 awards" or whatever, and those awards are from these same sites.... I saw Destiny at E3 and a few other events, it was pretty much the same build we got here, and they had the final build running at events just before launch. These sites were all still praising it to hell.

Then a few sites turn and give it negative reviews on launch and everyone follows? What? You were just praising this game like mad right after you seriously just played a final build of it..... makes no sense. It's like monkey see, monkey does.

[cooperdnizzle]

@Soldierone. I can agree with you kinda. I played the beta and loved it because, lets be honest it was a pretty big beta. The gun play was fast and fun. Then hearing the developers say over and over that the beta was just a small slice of the game and that there was way more to it in the final build, Which was good because after having the beta for a week it started getting boring.

So going in to it i thought there would be way more. Open up the planets, have better story missions, have way more enemy and being able to go anywhere on the planets because that is what they said so many times.

Well turns out that the beta was the exact same game as far as where you could go on the moon and earth, and they story missions are all exactly the same take ghost here have him scan and that's it until the game ends. The beta was the biggest beta of a game i have ever seen to date.

Thus making me think the game would offer way more then it actually could. If you played the beta then you have experienced the hole game of Destiny practically

[HaveSumNuts]

Can Bungie fix Destiny? Why would they release a disappointing game in the first place? Games from the PS1 and PS2 era are actually more enjoyable and have more content than todays games. When a game was made back in the day they had one chance to create a great game because no patches or dlc were possible. Now developers release hollow shells of games because they can DLC and patch it and people will support that instead of demanding a fixed, content filled, fun game right from the get go for that $60 purchase. Can Bungie fix it? Asking questions like this suggests your ok with them releasing a bad game.

[HanCilliers]

Good perspective - tough but true. I HOPE they can fix it yes. It will be such a waste of resources if they can't, and it's worth a try. I also agree with you though, it's like with games today hype>reality and technology gives devs the chance to improve on their game, whereas in earlier years they had one chance.

Is it good or bad that they have that chance? I have mixed feelings about it

[HaveSumNuts]

If you only have one chance to do something you will do it the best of your ability so you don't have any regrets right? Having this DLC/Patch available leaves the developers with a chance to release the project somewhat lacking and add content in overtime while making more $$$. It's destroying gaming slowly but people keep supporting it.

[theDECAY]

This is actually frightfully true. I miss the good old days.

[HanCilliers]

*nods*

[KwietStorm_BLM]

It has some flaws or design questions, but I'm having fun with it, and I don't need someone's review to tell me whether that is right or wrong. Go figure.

[Sillicur]

Well if you are having fun that is all that counts, this is true. However, it is still shocking to see the low score it is getting.

I am happy to see some happy customers such as yourself, means you didnt waste your money at least.

[cooperdnizzle]

People also have fun with Candy Crush. So by you logic that game is as good as Destiny?? And It's a game so by all accounts they should be fun, But also bring great writing, characters, visuals, awesome environments ect.

The worst part of Destiny is how old the game feels. Cut and paste missions with empty worlds and no characters its like Bungie hasn't seen any other games in the last 10 years. They made a very boring game that hardly feels next gen maybe even last gen.

If I had anything to do with this game I would have quite. This game lowers the bar, while It should have ambition and try to raise it. Not to mention they themselves hyped the Crap out of it and pretty much lied about the hole game.

[theDECAY]

He speaks truth. Really no characters in the game. Peter Dinklage actually sounds annoyed voicing the ghost.

[beerzombie]

I said this during the beta the game has no soul.
Everything else is fine most Fps's have bland stories but the game dose not have that spark most people get attached to. Not being able to communicate with any one in the game is its number one flaw. This ruins the game because you cannot easily make new friends.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

"People also have fun with Candy Crush. So by you logic that game is as good as Destiny??"

You just made yourself sound really damn silly. I've never played Candy Crush, but obviously millions of people do, so do you think they care whether it's a "good" or a "bad" game? Whether it's as "good" as Destiny or not is irrelevant, and I don't know how you pulled that from what I said anyway. The point I was making is I'm a gamer, and I'm a human being with my own mind. If I have fun with a game, then that's it. I buy my games the day they release, and I don't read reviews. I don't care for them, at all. If I buy the odd "bad" game here or there, so be it.

[Metallox]

They had many years to solve those issues, if they exist, because I haven't played the game yet.

[TongkatAli]

If it was on the Wii U you would've played it, but it's all good, Watch Dogs is coming out on that, you can play that one.

[Metallox]

Before your crappy console wars little dude there is the money, and I simply don't have the cash to buy Destiny even having a 360 right here.

[DeusEx-Machina]

here we go...

[lord zaid]

To mind Destiny is a great game suffering under the weight of its own hype. From a critical perspective anyway. From a financial perspective, the hype has done its job. They've Acti have already made back their money.

[TongkatAli]

Halo fans and Wii U kiddies joined together on the internet to troll this game, Halo fans because they view Bungie as traitors and Wii U fans because they're going to bash every game that isn't on the Wii U because they want the title of game of the year to go to Smash Bros.

Hate it or not the game is going to be the best selling game of the year, they're going to be hypocrites and say "sales don't matter" yadadada, then their game of choice gets a good week of sales " wow look at dem sales"

Boring, predictable, cliche, what is the right answer ? All of the above, puhuhuhuhu.

[DeadlyOreo]

You forgot bitter PC fans too. Naturally, there was going to be a lot of hate piled onto this game when released.

[HoldenZA]

Disappointing to hear so many average reviews for a game that was built up for so much more. Not looking forward to getting this game anymore :(

[Jury]

I'm loving the game as are all my psn buddies who own it

[isa_scout]

Yeah, it's hard to believe there is so much hate toward this game when I have over 20 friends on my friends list who are all loving Destiny(myself included). Is there room for improvement? Absolutely, but as far as I'm concerned there's nowhere to go but up from here. I applaud Bungie for going out of their comfort zone and creating such a well stitched hybrid, and I'm sure over the days,weeks, and months they will add content regularly. People complain that there are no new I.P.s yet burn Destiny at the stake for its shortfalls. If I was a developer I'd stick to proven franchise to after seeing how people act so entitled.
There are millions of people enjoying Destiny right now. If I was Bungie I'd focus on that, and not all this toxic talk from people who are to self entitled to give the game it's fair shake. Call of Duty releases annually with 1/4 the content as Destiny; at the same price as Destiny yet gets a free pass every year from these same critics. There is absolutely no consistency in game journalism today.... You want to give Destiny a 6? Fine, but COD had damn well better get a 4/10. As it suffers from FAR BIGGER problems than Destiny.

[Cryptcuzz]

You speak the f**king truth. So many games gets released annually that does the same thing over and over but gets a free pass (with higher review scores at that!) but Destiny gets crucified for doing more from the same media sites. Doesn't make sense at all from that perspective.

[Manubiggs]

Its a good game, arguably the best coop experience on next Gen right now (at least for the first 20 hours). But it is not groundbreaking or genre defining, and we expect much more from Bungie.If this was a game from techland they would get slaps on the back for the lack of bugs and smooth gameplay. I definitely recommend this game for anyone who likes co-op loot grinders for its tightly tuned gameplay mechanics but be warned, once you hit the level cap you will have to grind through the same old missions and bosses multiple times to level up - so where Destiny really fails is its lack of content at higher levels. Once I have hit the level cap with all 3 characters I doubt I will come back till the DLC is released ... but sharing those 40+ hours with 2 other friends will be memorable and one of the best gaming experiences this year.

[beerzombie]

Techland allows you to play with random people very easily and talk. if you are going to make an mmo fps you have to allow people to meet and play together and talk these hoops you have to go through to talk is a stupid game design.

[ScorpiusX]

How much rope is there on the life preserve. Lol

[Predaking77]

I don't get why the media hate Destiny so much. It don't deserve the hate that is running around. My friends and I are having such a good time with Destiny and it has been successful on sales while there are other games that are really bad and there is no such a hate campaign.

Looks to me that the media is offended because Bungie released the game and did not allowed any review before the release and now the media is trying to punish them.

[GuruStarr78]

I'm really enjoying Destiny.. disagree all you want, but it's pretty damn fun to play with some buddies, especially the crucible (the games MP)..

I got a message on-screen today and Saw that they're going to be "re-booting" the game today... wonder what that could entail?

[mrmack00]

I know it's gonna get better and better (though I'm enjoying it right now, as is). Please, please, please add some form of chat for the raids, though.. I don't have six friends I can coordinate with and I don't want to miss the raids.. Arghhh