Performance Analysis: Destiny on Xbox One

Eurogamer: With our full Face-Off feature under way for this weekend, it's the Xbox One release of Destiny that poses the biggest questions. Having already seen Diablo 3 go from 900p to a full 1080p (albeit with some occasional frame-rate hits), Eurogamer now have Bungie's sci-fi goliath attempting to pull off the very same technical wizardry. But given its ambitious, effects-heavy, open-world design, has matching the PS4's full-HD output required any downgrades elsewhere?

[jackanderson1985]

to sum it up, no real hit, one hiccup to 28FPS... basically the same as the PS4 version

to sum it up even better YAY FOR EVERYONE!!!!!

[Volkama]

It does look noticably better than the beta, but honestly I think I would have preferred that they addressed the dodgy shadowing before bumping the resolution.

[kneon]

Well it's also on 360 and ps3 so I expect that's holding it back a bit. I was never impressed by the graphics or visual effects in this game.

[Volkama]

The old gen limitations definitely show through the general scope and design of the maps, but shouldn't really hinder things like shadows and anti-alaising.

[XB1_PS4]

Most people would rather have 1080p instead of some shadows. It's a tricky game to play, but the 1080p number is the seller. If it was 900p, that's all anyone would have focused on. Bungie made the right decision, because if they would have went with 900p there would be a lot more complaining than just you saying you want shadows.

[donthate]

kneon & volkama:

this game was simply more of the same, just what the PS4 really is, more of the same.

You people talk about next generation games, but even on PC do I hardly see "anything next generation". They are all just graphical updates and the same game mechanics.

The only game so far that pushed that boundary significantly is Titanfall with the massive cloud support, and even then it was doable on the Xbox 360.

Sooo pleasse tell me what "next generation game"?

The fact of the matter is we are reaching a point where hardware no longer holds back game mechanics and design except for massive computation and data availability i.e. the cloud. However, the cloud is almost independent of the console.

Everything else are mostly visuals and very minor tweaks.

XB1_PS4:

People might complain about the number before the p, or the fps in comparison, but that is dying down now.

Put up two games, 900p and 1080p and you cannot tell the difference unless you really look and even then it is marginal at best. Same thing with fps, you need consistent fps whatever it is.

[XB1_PS4]

@YouAreSalty
I'm not sure what your point is.

The numbers matter more than the results.

Also, the FPS is a huge difference. Immediately distinguishable.

[MrPink2013]

So removing Kinect did indeed help the Xbox One get closer to parity of the PS4. Good news for Xbox One owners. Will be interesting to see how The Witcher 3 stacks up including the PC. That game will truly be next generation and not a launch title on the new consoles. Should show a good representation of how all the the systems compare.

[gootimes]

@YouAreSalty

Titanfall's massive Server support did what for it exactly that other games didn't do already? Please be specific.

If PS4 is more of the same in your eyes, then what is the X1? What is the X1 doing that is sooo next gen? You just sound salty in general to me honestly.

[Tedakin]

People only care about resolution. It can look like crap as long as it's 1080p and people are happy, because people are nuts.

[GameNameFame]

You are salty

MS cloud on Xbox is nothing but plain old dedicated server. Titanfall was prime example of that.

Are you salty with your tears ?

[Angeljuice]

I'd like to point out that the only substantial difference between the two XBO versions is the Pixel count!!

Does this mean we finally have the definitive answer in the question "can anyone really tell the difference?".???

[mikeslemonade]

I'm pretty sure in the "face off" round the PS4 will be the better version. It's the definitive way to play Destiny.

[TheWatercooler]

Xbone should be able to display this game the same as the PS4. This is a essentially a last gen game. It looks pretty much the same as the last gen versions except sharper.

As current gen only games get more demanding in the future. The disparity between PS4 and Xbone will continue to show.

[Evilsnuggle]

Wow how entertaining . Now we are celebrating a last gen game running at 1080P 30fps on supposed "Next Gen Hardware". I know some of us are rooting for parity but come on.

I liked Destiny I didn't think I would but I did. I will buy Destiny when it gets cheap. But Bungie is the King of parity. Destiny is no graphics powerhouse house of a game. This is a last gen game it's should be running in 1080P 60fps on both PS4 and x1. But Bungie is the King of gimping also. It's a shame that it was 900p 30fps on a next gen console in the first place. A new suppose it "next gen console" should not need to be tweaked and optimized to run a game design for last gen or across gen game. It speaks volumes of the x1 weaknesses in hardware.

Game that destroy Destiny in graphics that run 1080P 60fps. Metro Redux PS4 , Dying light PS4 X1 900p 60fps at E3 2014, DeepDown , Battlefield Hardline 1080P 60fps confirmed on PS4 unconfirmed on x1.

P.S I hope the reason why Destiny is running 30fps is because it a last gen game . Not because Bungie gimped the PS4 version.

Animal Mutha 76@

Funny how you think all games will have parity. Parity is only possible if .

A. The game is not that graphically demanding and both PS4 and x1 have hardware head room to run the game at it's full resolution and frame rates.

B. The developer gimping the PS4 version for the sake of parity. The PS4 has 50 % more GPU cores. PS4 vs X1 both GPU benchmarked by digitalfoundry PS4 GPU has a average of 30% performance advantage.

How can you have parity with a GPU from the same series of GPU with 50% cores. That is impossible . If you are saying that x1 has parity with the PS4 because of two last gen games Diablo 3 and Destiny. You would still be wrong . Diablo 3 is a lock 1080P 60fps on PS4 . Diablo 3 doesn't not have a locked frame rates and is missing some visual effects of on the x1 version. Diablo 3 is a last gen game that has frame rates dips as low as 50fps on x1. This means that the PS4 version still preform better. When Digitalfoundry benchmark both PS4 and x1 version of Destiny. I'm sure the PS4 version will also be superior.

[tinynuggins]

How is bungie the KING of parity? This is their first multiplat game.

[Volkama]

Not only is it Bungie's first multiplatform game, but we also know for a fact that they were not aiming for image quality parity. The Xbox version was 900p until Microsoft stepped in to assist.

[otherZinc]

@Evilsnuggle,

Who "gimped" TLOU 11 month Remake: TLOU:R doesn't run at a locked 60fps.

Who "gimped" Drive Club:it runs at 30fps, with 1 feature, 50 cars, invisible walls, no weather(at launch), no Japanese cars, no American cars, & has the nerve to charge for DLC!

Sony did that to their OWN Exclusives, with their so called "50%" more powerful GPU.

That's a friggin ripoff!

The "so called weaker XBOX ONE" has managed to implement Campaign Co-op (also via Splitscreen) in its Remastered version of Halo 1-4 at 1080p 60fps. It would've been great if Destiny could do the same...But something "gimped" it...

[darthv72]

Funny how 50% more GPU cores only amounts to 30% performance advantage. "Average" meaning more or less.

no doubt PS4 has better specs but its what you do with those specs that define the system. Are we to think the XB1 will NEVER have a title to showcase what it can do with proper optimization and refinement?

PS4 is great but lets get off the horse of XB1 isnt.

[VforVideogames]

For everyone that bought Destiny on Ps4, its exactly how Halo plays so now you are not missing anything only the story.

[danowat]

In before PS4 version deliberately hobbled..........

[Volkama]

Any talk of parity will be premature as Digital Foundry are doing their full comparison at the weekend :)

Maybe both sets of fanboys can just skip that conversation for now? In fact maybe they can skip all conversing forever? That'd be nice.

[Aussiebeachbabe]

@danowat Just like your brains been hobbled. Well done Bungie..

[Gazondaily]

Yeah and people will magically forget that the game is being made for the PS3 and X360. But nope...somehow the X1 version gimped the game, not the LAST GEN ports.

[UltraNova]

So If last gen was out of the picture and they still ended up looking and running pretty much the same what would you say then?

[Gazondaily]

@Ultra

Then I wouldn't just blindly blame the X1 for any so called gimping without knowing the facts surrounding it or having good reason to blame it.

Sometimes, its obvious to see when the superior version of a game is being held back, other times, its not. Maybe the parity in that case could be attributed to the devs lack of talent or sheer complacency? All this doesn't operate in a vacuum.

Who on earth would automatically make a knee-jerk reaction and blame the X1 version unless only to fulfill some fanboy agenda?

[UltraNova]

So in your opinion a reportedly 40% difference in GPU grunt requires further evidence/reasons to prove as to why an xone version of game runs the same as the more powerful ps4 one especially when both systems are accepted as very easy to code for in a universally known pc language (x86) in comparison to last gen?

EDIT: I'll cut to the chase here, setting aside fanboy agendas and the like (agreed btw) do you actually believe there's no parity/intentional gimping going on?

[Gazondaily]

@Ultra

Not in this case. This is running on old gen consoles as well and I don't see the original version being scaled up any more.

Are you saying this should be 1080p 60fps on PS4?

I'm just saying we can't just automatically make assumptions regarding this. What if Bungie hit the ceiling of what they wanted to achieve with the engine and scaled down from the PS4. The PS4 was the lead platform wasn't it?

This being a cross-gen game further makes me doubt whether there was any gimping. Look at BF3-4 on PC and how Frostbite was scaled down. Some people tend to run wildly with the notion that the PS4 is VASTLY superior to the X1 (equating it to the kind of difference you expected from average decent gaming PC's vs consoles).

Simply, we don't know and nor should be we bother in this case throwing around accusations of gimping. For the most part, it just seems like fanboy fuel to me.

[Benchm4rk]

@Septic "

The PS4 was the lead platform wasn't it?"

Neither the PS4 or XB1 were lead platforms for destiny. They created there own dev kit for the game and then optimized it for different platforms. http://www.arabicgamers.com...

[strangeaeon]

Your too late...

[Artista]

looks like Bungie got the Job done.

[phantomxll]

Soon we will see the "PS4 version was downgraded for parity" comments.

[Letros]

Or like on NeoGAF, "Not buying due to parity."

[mcarsehat]

They're just the people that can't afford it making excuses.

[qwerty676]

looks a little crisper i guess

but dont care either way.

[Kayant]

But Gamingbolt said PS4 has better image quality and contrast /s....

Was expectd given how well optimised it is on all platforms. Bungie did a good job.

It's not really about parity it's more cross-gen nature of things. Lots of platforms, Lots of work.

[Psygnosis333]

http://a.pomf.se/rknxao.gif

[HeWhoWalks]

Um, this isn't a full analysis of both, so the PS4's image quality STILL COULD be better. That's why it's best not to make any off the wall comments (whether for or against the PS4).

[Kayant]

True although from the images provided in this analysis they seem quite comparable to me settings wise.

[Animal Mutha 76]

So 40-50% more power - do we still believe this? 60fps is where the minor differences in these consoles show imo. Parity will become more common with only exclusives showing hardware specific differences. I for one am happy with this and will get a PS4 for exclusives as I think X1 is the better 'platform'. Choose you console based on friends and features and be happy that the games will be about the same.

There's more than the kinect reserve helping our here and also consider that X1 is at all times runnings 3x OS and multitasks snap and apps. Xbox being considered weak is misjudged and not backed up by the more recent evidence.

Hope everyone on both platforms enjoy Destiny.

[Kayant]

"Parity will become more common with only exclusives showing hardware specific differences" - Not really this is a cross-gen game until full next-gen games come out there we will know.

"There's more than the kinect reserve helping our here and also consider that X1 is at all times runnings 3x OS and multitasks snap and apps. Xbox being considered weak is misjudged and not backed up by the more recent evidence. " - You're doing like PS4's OS uses no resources either. No one knows the impact to the reserve both OS's use on each platform except the fact that both have 2 cores and 3GB ram reserved for OS.

[CaptainObvious878]

"So 40-50% more power - do we still believe this?"

I don't know why you wouldn't since it's a fact. We all know the specs of both consoles so why would a cross platform game magically change this truth?

And I have to seriously, seriously question anyone that is actually happy with parity.

[thrust]

Not that much difference between both! But there is one not like you think!

[Alsybub]

I'm very happy with parity as long as it isn't done by making a sacrifice.

[PCBOX]

No X1 is more powerful than PS4. That is a fact. Your accepting or denying it wont change anything. % 50 more shaders go for GPGPU not for GPU. X1 has been held back on resolution side sometimes due to lack of dx12 and unexperienced ESRAM usage. X1 is a beast. Games looking twice better than PS4 versions. You are gonna accuse me as liar but I have both and I see consequnces by myself.

[Animal Mutha 76]

You can question it all you like - even seriously. It's not going to change my opinion.

Multi plat parity is fine by me and I think you will find its preffered by developers as well from a business standpoint.

[supergrobi1]

Perhaps 40-50% on paper.

We do not know all specs of the consoles, we know some numbers, but we don´t know how all of this components perform together.

Destiny shows, the XBox One is at the same level. :)

[HeWhoWalks]

Thank Heavens someone else gets it. Do people REALLY not get that parity means one (or more) of the system's actual capabilities is being completely ignored in favor of reaching similar results on both?

Sure you're getting mountains of disagrees, but that just goes to show just how some folks are really "not in the know". Can't claim the systems are "the same" regarding technical specifications using a game that was CREATED on the foundation of equality.

The exclusives will remain the best story tellers of system power (as they did all of last gen with the PS3). In Destiny's case, however, the last gen consoles also made a dent in any current gen advantages.

[Kayant]

@PCXBOX

"Games looking twice better than PS4 versions." - Mistermediax would be proud.

[gootimes]

@supergrobi1

"Perhaps 40-50% on paper."

"Destiny shows, the XBox One is at the same level."

So which one is it, it can't be both.
That is like saying, since a PC game has parity with a PS4 game, that must mean the PS4 is on the same level as a PC...

I really don't understand people in here. PS4 has stronger hardware, a game having parity doesn't change the PS4's hardware!!!

Both companies will improve the software that powers them.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

anyone who does is an idiot

[CaptainObvious878]

So you're fine with developers holding back PS4 versions for the sake of politics when they could be taking advantage of the hardware?

Strange.

[gfk342]

Why shouldn't we believe a 40-50% difference, if the hardware specs reveal this difference? It's a fact! Both have the same architecture but PS4 has a much powerful GPU! This is sufficient to have an idea of the power difference. What would you need more?

Oh games! Right! Look here and you will have all the proof you need

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

Oh and just for your information... This is the beginning of a generation and later the games will become more complex! What Xbox One will do with the more complex games when it is struggling with the current games (that are fairly not demanding).

What makes me think that the current games are not demanding? Simple! The majority of the current games are cross gen! So it is very clear that in order to have decent difference between all the cross platforms they have to gimp the current gen! This is not me that is saying, but also Destiny's developers said that (I cannot find the source but trust me)!

Destiny?! It runs perfectly on the last generation console, with only the resolution being pared back. But this is normal because it is a generation leap and it is normal to have a resolution difference.

But you know what is the biggest surprise? The Xbox One is struggling also with the cross gen games, being not able to break ahead of the last gen console (as PS4 is doing).

We will discuss in 1-2 years from now (when the current gen will no longer be supported) and we will see the real difference.

[hello12]

The guy at redtechgaming has finally bought an x box 1 and hes going to be doing more comparison videos now he owns both consoles. I'm a PC gamer and i have been following him for a while now because he came from the PC world. Hes not bias to either console and has tested and reviewed graphic cards for AMD and Nivida. If he's say's the x box 1 version or PS4 version looks better he would have no reason to lie about this.

He has uploaded a short comparison video of both versions. He gave the win to PS4, just a little bit. I accept his word the PS4 is the better version, but the x box 1 version is good too.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Kayant@ Gamingbolt are frauds watch the video they did something to downgrade the x box 1 version on screen

[Kayant]

"Kayant@ Gamingbolt are frauds watch the video they did something to downgrade the x box 1 version on screen" - I know which is why they is a /s an the end of my comment ;)

[imt558]

Yeah, guy is reliable like Sniper Elite III comparison crap. He don't do in-depth comparison like Digital Foundry, but RTG is far better than Gamingbolt

[Mkai28]

Yet at 5:48 he couldn't tell wether it was the xbox one or PS4. It said PS4 when it was Xbox.. I'm sure it was an honest mistake. It just shows the games look so much alike, he didn't even know which is which with out seeing the control inputs..

I can picture it, this scene must be PS4s because it looks better. So that has to be the PS4 version..

[mhunterjr]

just because the ps4 and xb1 versions have similar performance, doesn't mean there was "forced parity". Bungie had to make 4 versions of this game. Chances are, when they hit their goal on the PS4, the started working on making the other versions as close to that goal as possible. Going back and improving the PS4 version further would have meant more time... would you rather they had delayed the game further to push the ps4 version, just so that PS4 fanboys could have another multiplat to brag about?

[ironmonkey]

Fact all ps4 games out to date look better than any xboxone game out. Fact. Multiplats and exclusive better on ps4. anyone saying no is a liar. Facts are all on comparisons.

[gamertk421]

Hahaha, this guy^^^^^^

[marlinfan10]

A little insecure?

[tlougotg]

There was no forcing of parity here as this game was made with last gen in mind. The game was already held back due to last gen development, all u rent gen got was a resolution boost and a few extra bells and whistles no reason xbone and ps4 version wouldn't be the same lol

Pcbox and a few other delusionals on here are just plain sick. Ps4 is more powerful by a gd amount is a fact, not up for debate.

[DougLord]

OMFG Xbone dips to 28fps While PS4 stays at 30!!! What a MASSIVE difference in power.

The fact is that 40%-50% more shaders etc gives you a 20% boost in resolution due to the need for more pixels in each direction. An when playing a game at 30 for or 60 fps, the difference between 1080p and 920p is unnoticeable.

The difference between these 2 boxes is 100% based on which exclusives you prefer. There is no right choice or wrong choice. The WiiU is 60 less powerful then the XBone and it still has some great IP worth playing.

[once_a_jedi]

I would like the option of having an unlocked frame-rate in all games.

[LAWSON72]

The game may have got the res bump but the game for some reason looks noticeably better than the beta in other ways. I played both on a 720p TV so the res is not going to do anything for me and I can notice an improvement.

[mochachino]

Makes me wish Sony stepped with it's own engineers like MS and got the framerate up on PS4.

[GodGinrai]

It runs a t a solid 30FPS. If you think they could have magically double the framerate, you are SERIOUSLY delusional, about the PS4s capabilities.

EDIT: And bungie would not go with this unlocked(inconsistent) framerate crap that some devs have pulled, just to show they can get a game running a bit better than 30. 60FPS or 30FPS. simple as.

[mochachino]

any increase in a sold frame rate looks good. 40 runs smoother than 30, 50 than 40, 60 than 50 and so on.

In fact to me, once it gets around 45-50 it have a very noticeable increase in smoothness.

[hiawa23]

Looks and plays fantastic on the One. I chosed the One version over the PS4 version as I prefer its setup and controller. Looks like a good choice..

[MorePowerOfGreen]

There is nothing wrong with the PS4 version, the game has been developed the best it could on PS4 based on current knowledge of the PS4 hardware and the early engine the game is using.

The only thing that has changed is XB1 is using 100% of its GPU and has a more complete SDK compared to the one used at launch. I told fanboys it was foolish to troll XB1's post launch performance, when the very first DRM rumors even said MSFT was 6 months behind and Kinect would have a GPU reserve.

Post launch resolutiongate is nothing more than MSFT's rushed slapped together system software(placeholder software) XB1 was most likely suppose to launch in 2015 with DX12 as the default OS.

[Fkhalf16]

Last gen release, bad move Bungie bs the numbers from pre-orders wasn't that high on both PS3 and 360. Should've just made Destiny for PS4 and Xbox One and fully optimize both consoles.

[GodGinrai]

I am willing to bet when the numbers come in, the X360 version is the highest selling, until the uptake of X1 and PS4 pick up. in that instance, all those who took up the bungie offer of downloading the digital version will get their current gen counterparts for free.

This is good for long time halo/bungie fans who were on the fence about picking up an XB1, because now their choice just got made a lot easier for them. I saw 12 people in my friendslist playing destiny...seven of them went with the offer, three are kicking themselves. One is taking his copy back and getting a digital version. Im sure the other three will follow suit, because they are also in my clan. lol . But atleast they wont have to start from scratch when they get their xbox ones!

[dansdooz]

has the rgb issue with xb1 been fixed, the retail build clearly looks lighter with better colours and shadow detail.

[MasterCornholio]

Can I say something?

I'm happy that the game runs great on both platforms.

:)

[OldDude]

That's just crazy talk...

[Azzanation]

So the PS4 is 50% more powerful in some fanboys eyes yet the X1 had a 10% power boost and seems like it can match the PS4 not just in resolution but in frame rate. I think sone fanboys have been lied to.. again.

[mmj]

If the game fails to utilise PS4's additional graphics power then of course there will be parity, not every developer make full use of PS4. Even so it's obvious that Xbone is slower due to Bungie having to run to Microsoft for help, PS4 probably runs those settings with ease and little extra effort on the developers part.

Lets not also forget that Bungie have up until now been a huge asset/partner to Microsoft.

[Azzanation]

I agree however in this case both games run identical and the frame rate should be higher on PS4 which it isnt. Framerate is the best way to tell a systems performance.

[GundalfDeGrej]

@Azzanation

Chances are the PS4 was able to reach a higher framerate than the Xbox One but just wasn't able to reach 60 (The magical number you need to avoid screen tearing). That's why all versions are locked to 30.

[mmj]

Azzanation, the frame-rates are capped at 30fps... if they weren't PS4 might be getting 20-30fps more. Why did Bungie choose to cap PS4 at 30fps same as Xbone? you'd have to ask them that... clearly if Xbone is running at such high settings then the graphics engine can't be all that taxing.

[lameguy]

Wanted to note one thing about the article about how the 10% boost somehow allowed them to go from 900p to 1080p (44% more pixels). Remember last generation where nearly every game was some odd resolution under 720p? Things like 690 or 640 or similar? It's odd that there's little of that this generation really.

Consider this: Perhaps Destiny was actually running 'fine' on the xbox before the 10% boost but at some odd resolution of 1000p (right in the middle). That's the best it could do. However, perhaps for artistic reasons they just decided to lower it all the way to 1600x900 since that's a common resolution. When they got the boost, they just had to bump from 1000 to 1080 etc.

I'd half expect future games to explore the area between 900 and 1080p in detail (rather than just snapping all the way down to 900) if they're struggling to meet whatever bar they're trying to hit. And then there's the new Wolfenstein where the frame buffer actually has a dynamic resolution...

Now, Titanfall... that dog of a game/engine is really maxed at 792p. No bump could ever help that one :)

[GodGinrai]

"Now, Titanfall... that dog of a game/engine is really maxed at 792p. No bump could ever help that one :)"

They should have built a custom engine, to be honest. I still love titanfall as well. Im probably going to give it a spin tomorrow, as I still prefer its competitive MP to anything the crucible serves up.

[thecowsaysmoo]

Listen, I am a xbox one fan obviously and I know ps4 is more powerful, but we won't see huge differences between the xbox one and the ps4 in terms of graphics and fps because of parity. Only exclusives will take advantage of the ps4 hardware.

[gootimes]

That is probably the most mature post here, congrats.

[urwifeminder]

Users are reviewing it lower so it must not be as uber as on the other console.