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Will Hardcore Gamers Ever Purchase Wii U Games?

CCC Says: "The Wii U is on the rocks in more way than one. Nintendo has been struggling with sales, we all know that, but they are also struggling with recognition. They are considered a family friendly company, and as a result you rarely see huge AAA hits published on the Wii U. Yves Guillemot of Ubisoft said that Wii U owners just do not purchase hardcore games, specifically Assassin’s Creed. Yoshinori Ono of Capcom said that the whole next gen will be getting a Street Fighter game… except for the Wii U. Why is it that the Wii U can’t seem to sell hardcore games."

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iamnsuperman3536d ago (Edited 3536d ago )

"But what if you don’t have an Xbox One or PS4. Well, that’s actually very unlikely. Nintendo has generally made the “yes and” systems. Many people owned a Wii AND a PS3 or a Wii AND an Xbox 360 because they didn’t want to miss out on Nintendo exclusives"

I used to think that was Nintendo's best move (being the second console) but I look at the Wii U and it begs to question why it worked so well for the Wii but not for the Wii U. I think that is down to unusal controls with a new type of game (Wii sports). That got people to buy the Wii who then went on to buy Nintendo franchises because they already had the system. The problem is the Wii U doesn't have that nor does it have that compelling price point (the Wii was dirt cheap). I think this second console argument doesn't work that well for the Wii U and only worked for the Wii because of those two conditions I mentioned. The real Nintendo faithful are buying the Wii U

Anyway, I think those who do buy a Wii U are more likely to buy another system (though this number will be much smaller) because they kind of have to as support for the big third party games is not there. It is a dilemma for Nintendo. I feel, with their next console, they either need to fully commit to being the second console or change who they are and attack Sony and Microsoft by doing what they do

DualWielding3536d ago

I think it was price, at least in relation to the PS3, the thing was initially so expensive that many people could simply not afford it. Those people bought a Wii to shake off their next gen console bug and then got bored of it and got a PS3 when it became affordable

Pisque3536d ago

If only it was JUST a question of pricing... Wii U doesn't attract any good third party publishers because the console is not made for mature people, it's made for kids/nostalgics. So Nintendo only relies on its first party developers which are only making kids/nostalgics type of games, that do not attract new customers. Wii U is a failure.

Menkyo3536d ago

The Wii was a hit because the motion control gimmick, it pulled in a giant number of casuals. Thats the problem they were casuals and not gamers so they see no need to buy a Wii U.

randomass1713536d ago

@iamsuperman I think you are exactly right. I have every intention of picking up the white PS4 that comes out soon and putting it next to my Wii U. That way I have every experience Wii U won't get anyway. It is a shame that Wii U isn't doing better than Wii because IMO it is a much better system. But it is more expensive and just got its system seller game. It almost makes its first year of sales nonexistent in comparison. Wii U was trying to go into some kind of middle ground that was not really there.Speaking only for myself Wii U will be a great secondary console with my PS4 and my laptop. I have the Wii U exclusives and indies and that's all I really need from it.

Theyellowflash303536d ago

The Wii U has been outselling the Xbox One lately.

LOL_WUT3536d ago

Two totally different demographics with the latter going on to make big profits to both 1st and 3rd party games alike! I wonder what you'll say then when the X1 eventually claims 2nd spot. ;)

Theyellowflash303536d ago (Edited 3536d ago )

I wonder what you'll say when you're wrong? Since you never reply to any messages I write to you.

The Xbox Divsion doesn't make any money bro. Rick Sherlund proved that. Microsoft hides the Xbox One's losses in Android Patents.

http://www.escapistmagazine...

http://gamepolitics.com/201...

http://www.nowgamer.com/new...

randomass1713536d ago (Edited 3536d ago )

@LOL_WUT Sony has the edge on 3rd parties, not Microsoft. Playstation 4 has better hardware so Xbox will have to constantly deal with having lesser ports than PS4. Microsoft has the poor man's PS4 console and they need to separate themselves in ways that don't involve buying away third party multiplats and locking them away from Sony fans. Wii U at least offers a different experience from XB1.

truechainz3536d ago

Hello LOL! You have struck my curiosity once again with you comment below. I would like to know how you define a hardcore gamer and a hardcore game? I'm sure there is a lot to learn from your response.

user3672723536d ago (Edited 3536d ago )

In what planet is the Wii U outselling the XB1? If you are referring to install base, yeah the Wii U has a year head start and XB1 is not even available in a lot of countries yet. But in the overall weekly and monthly sale, XB1 is far ahead of the Wii U at this point as it is not even a debate.

wonderfulmonkeyman3536d ago

The year's head start for the Wii U is irrelevant; Nintendo did nothing to push sales for it, and they dropped off a cliff soon after the early adopter sales that all consoles naturally get.

If anything, delaying the console would have been far more beneficial for it. They started at a disadvantage by releasing it as soon as they did.

Its lead over the XBone right now is entirely earned and justified by a growing library of incredible games.

weekev153536d ago

Man you are so living in January 2014, get with the times. WiiU is globally at least on par if not slightly ahead of xb1 for the past couple of months. I will qualify this by saying clearly this will not last when halo mcc and the waft of third party titles skipping wiiu come out at the end of this year. Bayo2 and Smash will help but xb1 will outsell wiiu this holiday.

Next year could be different if we get Zelda and Starfox.

Dunban673536d ago

The Vita has a larger install base than the Wii u- what does either have to do w this article?

Theyellowflash303536d ago

The Vita has also been out longer and sells no where near the amount of software the Wii U sells. So having a bigger install base means nothing. Vita software sells like shit.

Sales of the Vita are also under 15K a month in the NPD. The Wii U will past the Vita up in sales by the end of the year.

Dunban673536d ago

.... And the Wii u has been out longer than the xbox1

I think it would be great if the Wii u sells that much hardware this year but catching the Vita that soon might be tough - I guess it depends what kind of holiday the vita has - I m sure the Wii u s will be a good one

Sincere01213536d ago

Dumb article. It's only been the "hardcore" gamers buyin the Wii u and the Wii u games. The casuals from the Wii generation have flocked to the ps4.

Testfire3536d ago

No the casuals flocked to tablets and smartphones for their gaming needs. They left Nintendo way before the PS4 was even announced. The higher PS4 sales you see is from a lot of Xbox defectors.

LAWSON723536d ago

I really don't see that being the case. For one PS4 does not impressive numbers over the Xbone in US and the huge gap between them comes from EU and JP where people mostly bought PS anyways. I am sure that is the case for some owners but they really are not the majority or a wide margin of these sales. That is of course unless VGChartz is completely off on sales numbers.

lilbroRx3536d ago (Edited 3536d ago )

I agree 100%. The problem with the Wii U is that it only attracts hardcore gamers which is and always has been a minority in gaming contrary to the bluster by last gen's HD fanboy's who redefined it to mean people who played their console for *realistic* and not Nintendo(had nothing to do with game quality, variety or volume like it used to).

The gaming media and fanboys have twisted the definitions in their favor, so much that they will never allow that to be.

Truth is, the Wii U is the only console out right now that has a "hardcore gamer audience". The PS4 is mostly getting what was slammed as the "causal audience" just 1 gen ago. They get people who buy hardware based on the hardware's popularity and marketing, not on the game content as the PS4 and Xbone have little great game content at the moment.

I will eventually get a PS4 and possibly Xbone but I have absolutely no intention of it now because I'm a hardcore gamer and there is nothing for me on those system to justify the purchase. The best games they have I can get better versions of on my PC.

DefenderOfDoom23536d ago

So i guess , by your definition, some one who plays 40 hours a week of EA NHL HOCKEY on PS3 , is not a hardcore gamer? Someone who plays a lot of INDIE GAMES on a PS4 or a XBOX1 is not a hardcore gamer ? To me , if you play video games 15 or more hours a week on any platform , your a hardcore gamer ! Pretty simple , not many 3rd party games for NINTENDO .

truechainz3536d ago

The author actually makes a solid point in the fact that wii u is usually one of at least 2 gaming options typically owned today. Too bad the article is peppered with pointless terminology like "hardcore games/gamer" which doesn't really mean anything.

BrandanT3536d ago

I'm still trying to figure what people mean by "hardcore games" nowadays. Can someone explain it to me? I'm 16 and what I think hardcore games are, is any game that is just absolutely amazing in quality.

weekev153536d ago

Generally when articles this talk about hardcore games they mean any game where you use a traditional weapon to kill enemies eg gun, knife, sword. Or a Sports game.

Stuff like platformers/puzzle games/ party games arent thought of as hardcore.

Now a true hardcore gamer will have your attitude, which is that a good game is a good game regardless of genre or age rating. Itd be lovely if the rest of the gaming population thought like this. Alas we are stuck with a slew of beige shooters trying to outdo COD with every iteration and anything creative is either thought of as a risky proposition or is an indie game.

LAWSON723536d ago (Edited 3536d ago )

Some refer to them as the core audience that is attracted to sport games, shooters and the big blockbusters. They laugh at low budget and motion gaming, while they embrace online MP and mindless (well not necessary mindless but a game that is basic and easy to learn) fun.

While others would call it a gamer that wants to play anything that is recommended or looks appealing. They are ones who buy multiple systems; play the indies, lower budget games, and niche games. They want to experience what a game has to offer and are always looking for that hidden gem.

Some may even call them the completionists and trophy/achievement hunters.

I kind of gave up on what it means over the years. I used to question and consider myself a hardcore gamer at your age and after a while you just don't care. Besides who wants to call themselves a hardcore gamer (it just sounds lame, the average person may think you are just nuts or something lol).

swice3535d ago

For me personally, I like to think of hardcore gamer as someone whom has completed a lot of games in their day, including all of the difficult ones, has multiple systems from multiple generations, a pretty sizeable game library, and a real passion for gaming, like, gaming is a normal part of their life.

That's hardcore for me

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Vits5d ago

I think it's better to leave games like AC: Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash forgotten on the Wii U. Best case, they are mediocre games; worse case, they are very bad. It was a dark time for the Wii U, and the first only exists to sell Amiibo cards, whereas the second was put together in a couple of months with a shoestring budget, and it shows.

The rest of the list does have some really cool games, though. I would love to see a remake of Star Fox Zero with decent controls, and Xenoblade X doesn't require that much modification to work.

Z5014d ago

How would XCX work without dual screens functionality?

Cacabunga4d ago

Same as Paper Mario color splash. One of the best wiiu games and getting even better with dual screen. Same reason why i prefer Splatoon 1

Profchaos4d ago

This article leaves out Nintendo's most controversial game to date devils Third.
I personally found the cover system really fun in that one compared to at the time most fps games completely lacking one.

Stevonidas4d ago

Devil's Third is HIGHLY underrated.

repsahj4d ago

They should remake Starfox to the switch 2. Very beautiful game during gamecube days.

Chocoburger4d ago

Kirby is always ignored or forgotten by people, so good to see it mentioned here.
Play Kirby Canvas Curse on DS, and then play Rainbow Curse on Wii U, they're really fun and unique 'platformers' without any actual jumping.

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