Destiny Has Surpassed Halo

Destiny has surpassed Halo in every way possible. The gameplay is better, the story is better, the lore is better, the multiplayer is better. Bungie outdid themselves.

[guywazeldatatt]

I'm so glad Bungie cut ties with Halo.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Halo and Destiny appear to be going in different directions. Halo 5 under performed and was seen as a general disappointment while Destiny 2 is surpassing expectations and setting the world ablaze. I just don't understand how MS can replace the talent that made the franchise and expect the same quality. Hence why Halo and Gears are no longer what they once were. Imagine if Halo, Gears, and Fable were thriving like they used to?

[porter470]

D2 isnt setting the world ablaze tho, early sales numbers point to selling 60% less than D1 for launch week numbers that is.

[ForeverTheGoat]

Idk about all that. Destiny 2 is what Destiny 1 should have been. Halo 5 was only a disappointment on the campaign side. The mp was a different story as most would agree it one of the mp and post launch support.

[EatCrow]

As far as I can tell...It's as bad or worse then Destiny 1 with all the corporate BS added to the game.
So I doubt its much of an improvement.

Apparently people hate the only raid available to for end game.

[thekhurg]

@porter

Such a troll. Destiny 2 has higher player counts and more digital sales. Doesn't have the 360 and PS3 to artificially boost sales and is tng even out on pc yet. The game is a booming success.

[NewMonday]

the story of Halo was stolen from the Ringworld books anyway.

[IamTylerDurden1]

@porter

D2 is a massive success actually. Especially considering D1 released on 4 platforms and D2 has yet to release on PC. Also, if u understood the financial structure you would understand that D2 is a far less costly venture than D1. D2 also released just 3 years after D1 all the meanwhile a whole other games worth of dlc launched. As well, D2 was less resource demanding considering Bungie had already laid the foundation, engine, mp/co op/game infrastructure.

If u honestly expected D2 to have a bigger first few weeks than D1 u are a fool. The amount of hype and marketing behind D1 was uncanny. But D2 is selling very well on only 2 platforms and more so it's being received exceptionally well by virtually everyone.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

I'm not sure what you're talking about because Halo 5 multiplayer is as good as every. Maybe the single player needs work but it still feels like Halo to me.

[Sircolby45]

Sorry but D2 isn't "setting the world ablaze." I just finished the company and was HUGELY disappointed because based on the trailers I actually had high hopes for this campaign. The trailers were way better than the actual campaign. D2 is basically a D1 DLC with a 2 slapped on the end. How anyone could play that campaign and be anything but disappointed is beyond me. They obviously haven't played good campaigns such as Horizon, Halo 2/3, and Uncharted/The Last of Us.

[thekhurg]

@sircolby

So the trailer was better? The trailer was made of cutscenes from the game. So somehow it magically got worse even though there was more?

Oh wait. You're a destiny troll. Nevermind.

[bumbleforce]

Last I checked halo 4 had an awesome single player and halo 5 had better multi player than destiney. Let's not forget about everything destiney did wrong but they are diffrent games. This is a troll article. Both games are good

[Skull521]

Lol, the talent of bungie stayed with halo and make up 343i, bungie is a shadow of its former self. Destiny isn't even a fraction of what Halo is. Halo is massive and spans all forms of entertainment, Destiny is still just a video game, and a pretty mediocre one at that.

The comments on that website are much better than here. The article is obviously trash not based on any sort of reality, and certainly pointed out.

[subtenko]

no, D2 is better than D1 but not like everyone and there mom has it.

Glad Destiny is multiplat unlike Halo (if you dont count other consoles)

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I'm not the biggest Halo fanatic but even I can see that Halo with each and every iteration has seen massive improvements over its successors, some Halo's are better than others but point is Bungie put huge effort with each sequel and yes Destiny even took from Halo when it comes to perks, customization, different spartan classes etc Bungie did that with Reach 7 years back. Destiny 2 took 3 years to make? Sorry but a 3 year game should be Night and day compared to its successor no excuses. Sorry but Destiny as a franchise has very long way to go still especially when the first game didn't even have a story, one step at a time I guess.

[morganfell]

I love HALO. I have played it since the original launched. Its the reason I have two X1s Master Chief bundles. (Yes one of the digital codes is still valid). Saying I own a few HALO books is like saying Freddy Kruger has a few issues. I have HALO loot crates stacked taller than me.

But 343 has destroyed HALO.

343's main error was instead of quietly taking the reigns and overseeing the franchise, they sought to eradicate the past developers and put their own, egotistically perceived superior stamp on the game by trying to out Bungie Bungie. It is almost as if they grew tired of hearing the word "Bungie" and they went on a tirade. Suddenly it wasn't about making a game they loved but rather trying to beat Bungie.

343 sought to eradicate the Chief and install their own machination as the hero. The first rule of Special Operations is Special Forces cannot be mass produced. But 343 turned SPARTANs from rare hand selected warriors into mass produced troops where there is no selection process and anyone can be a SPARTAN. They went from professional troops entrusted with missions that determined the fate of the galaxy to high school jocks that brag about their sexual prowess. Playing HALO 5 it is easy to see the difference between the two teams. Blue Team is Bungie's creation. Quiet, determined, professional. Now look at 343's train wreck led by Locke. Ridiculous.

343 took the great multiplayer we loved and transformed it into a twitch shooing Call of HALO. I like Call of Duty for what it is but I do not want COD chocolate in my HALO peanut butter. They claim to have learned their lesson after H5 but I doubt it. They have their head up the backside of professional gaming and that will forever rob gamers of the experience they once had. Noble Team wasn't the only great HALO related entity that perished at Reach.

[Sircolby45]

@thekhurg Actually there was quite a bit in the trailers that was not part of the in game cut-scenes. Did you even play the game?

"So somehow it magically got worse even though there was more? "
Yes...the more was the worse part.

"Oh wait. You're a destiny troll. Nevermind."

Oh get out of here with your idiotic fanboy drivel. I simply call it like I see it. If the game is crap I'm going to call it crap and vice versa.

[Black0ut]

*reads ridiculous comment about D2 being the next greatest thing*

And then I check the user... NEVERMIND folks, carry on. Just another troll 😂

[lelo2play]

I'm amazed how Microsoft let Bungie go. Unbelievable!
They should had let Bungie do what they wanted to do, which was Destiny. Microsoft could have had Destiny as a console exclusive along with the PC version.

[gbsrnctaln]

As an exclusive it would definitely have been a system seller. D2 is amazing!

[mcstorm]

I think what I get from all the comments is both Halo and Destroy are good ips some people like one over the other. For me I'm just happy to see a different type of fps games that are not cod or bf wannabes as for me there are to many of them.

[MegamanXXX]

They made the right choice to go multiplatform

[KickSpinFilter]

Why?

[XStation4pio_Pro]

they didn't cut ties. ms bought bungie and when bungie became successful enough to afford it, they bought themselves back but ms still owns the Halo franchise from a previous deal to make the exclusives - hence why there are still halo games. they didn't make a conscious decision to just say "hey i don't want to do halo and work with ms anymore". it was a series of business maneuvers the netted out where it did.

[Dragonscale]

So are Bungie lol.

[NecoTehSergal]

I'm so glad Bungie cut ties with Microsoft*

Corrected. Although, them then partnering with Activision isn't really....you know, an evolved step to take.

[S2Killinit]

it makes sense that Destiny is better than halo. After all the original vision for halo was Bungie's. Every other halo is just an imitation of that vision. No matter how much they try to improve halo, it keeps getting further and further away from that vision. Its like making copies of an original masterpiece painting.

Destiny is better than halo in every way especially where it counts in the gameplay mechanics.

[Kribwalker]

Sounds like a genuine, unbiased comment from someone with plenty of experience in both games......🙄

[S2Killinit]

As a matter of fact it is. But even assuming its not, it doesnt make it any less true.

[UltraNova]

"Destiny is better than halo in every way especially where it counts in the gameplay mechanics."

Destiny doesn't have an Icon like Master chief. MC gave Halo and MS an icon young gamers recognized and adored, including yours truly.

Destiny has nothing of this sort.

Granted, 343 drove that icon and the franchise to the ground to the point of near irrelevance in the shadow of BF, CoD, Battlefront and Destiny, but that doesn't mean Destiny is superior in every way.

[joab777]

I am and I'm not. I kinda wish they were big enough to do both, and owned it lol. But I guess they don't own anything I don't think.

Anyway, it has definitely surpassed Halo in many ways. But there are still quite a few things that I wish they would bring into Destiny. First, dedicated servers. Second, this would lead to more varied PvP. Don't get me wrong PvP is good and Trials is great, but I would love more open maps with vehicles, leaderboards, custom maps etc.

And I would LOVE for the Lore to be in game. Add a tab that has all the different geimoires and scan able. It is a game with amazing lore. Why isn't it in game to be referenced?

And there are gripes because it's an mmo-like game and a looter. Would love more social elements etc. And they did vassalize it a bit too much this time as everything is tokens, tokens, tokens. Maybe some crafting etc. It's like they want to be the game you play 3 days a week for the next 3 yrs, not the WoW you play all day every day. They eliminated a lot of the things ppl spent a lot of time doing in D1.

[Gazondaily]

Disagree.

The Gameplay is much better in Halo. The way vehicles are incorporated in it, the actual gunplay is far tighter, the weapons still uniqueness purposeful. The enemies smarter and their variants more well thought out.

The lore is brilliant especially if you've read the books by Greg Bear. The story was a mess in the last game though.

Multiplayer: Halo is just on another level compared to Destiny's basic, slow and cumbersome, aim assist heavy PvP. There's no competition especially when compared to Warzone or BTB.

Destiny's scale is good and the rpg and coop elements are what make it great. But it could be so much more than just a hub world, some strikes and raid or two.

[UCForce]

Halo 5 friendly AI are just dumb and enemy AI are less challenging. Halo 5 campaign is just mediocre.

[Gazondaily]

I agree that the campaign is weak, by halo standards.

Halo 5's pvp however thoroughly outclasses Destiny's very basic package which also, rather shockingly still runs on p2p. It doesn't even come remotely close to the depth and skill requirements of Halo 5's mp.

[TankCrossing]

The enemy AI in Destiny 2 is pretty shocking. Halo is guilty of barely advancing the AI since the first game, but in Destiny 2 the enemies literally walk into fire they're so dumb.

[TheHan]

How dumb can you be, they used the same Ai they have sense Halo. That's why they act the same when it comes to the Fallen and the Elites from both games

[gwumper987]

The AI in Destiny is brutal. They exhibit no actual tactics beyond occasionally going behind a corner, the AI in Halo 5 at the very least had some variation.

[UCForce]

On Destiny 2 MP is still subjective of course. But I rather play Titanfall 2 MP.

[Gazondaily]

Absolutely; this is all subjective. Each to their own. And yeah, Titanfall 2's mp is my favourite out of the lot.

[bouzebbal]

LOL how surprising.

[Gazondaily]

“LOL how surprising.”

How surprising that you don’t actually offer anything of value. Care to talk about the comparative qualities in the AI, Story, Multiplayer, Lore of either Destiny or Halo? You haven’t even played either of the recent games yes? You don’t even know what a raid is on Destiny or a Strike? So is anything useful going to come out from you or no? I imagine not. Go on…surprise me and use your brain.

Even if you haven’t played the two games, please do share with us what your opinions are on the two games and their respective strengths/weaknesses.

[TankCrossing]

Uh huh. Destiny does a lot of things Halo doesn't even attempt, but there are still some things Halo does a lot better. Particularly 60 fps, server hosted, well-tuned multiplayer. Crucible isn't a patch on Halo 5 MP.

[-Foxtrot]

Bungies Halo will always be better then Destiny

At least their Halo offers a great single player story, interesting characters, a rich lore and plenty of good gameplay variety. The co-op was well done and optional along with having a strong multiplayer.

Destiny is watered down as hell compared to Halo

[gbsrnctaln]

You havent played D2 then...

[-Foxtrot]

Call me a "hater" all you like but the thing is what a lot of people are saying, there's more then just this site. Hell check out the user scores on some sites like Metacritic...speak for themselves.

I have played it, not bought it but I've played it...like I've said it's Destiny 1.5

I find part of your comment ridiculous aswell "can't take anything seriously" so even if I said something true about the game it would be false...get out of here with that shit man. I was one of the biggest people hyped up for the first game, hell I bought the £159.99 Ghost collectors edition, I got burnt and despite playing this one I see hardly anything which makes me think it's a full on sequel. Once again...Destiny 1.5, nothing more.

[Gazondaily]

@The_infected

"You’re probably the biggest Destiny hater on N4G. No offense but I can’t take anything you say about Destiny serious. "

And why should we take you seriously? You're the biggest Xbox hater around; what value does your opinion have on Halo? Yoiu couldn't even substantiate your point in favour of Destiny in response to me. Either come up with something of substance or GTFO- at least Foxtrot's opinion had substance to it.

[4Sh0w]

Finally, I agree with Foxtrot, well it's not the first time but it's rare.

Halo is a much better franchise than Destiny, Destiny 2 is a corporate rehash of past Halo games minus the soul. I love Bungie but seriously when they were doing Halo every little thing had a purpose, now it seems they let Activision influence their design to make more money.

lol, according to the Halo haters years ago Bungie left because they were sick of making Halo, they wanted to branch out and do something different, yet they tied their whole future to a Halo-like game with a pseudo-RPG style....news flash this ain't no The Last of Us or Sunset Overdrive, nope just Halo-Light Ship Troopers. In the end it feels like a mix bag with no clear direction. lol, just proves how big Halo is because if Bungie would have stayed with Microsoft and made this this their next game as a break for Halo, exclusive to Xbox the haters would be swearing 'meh it's just a mixed up Halo-clone...but now since its multi, oh this is better than Halo...just what I've always wanted, Halo sucks. Yeah OK, sure.

[bouzebbal]

haha so much on the defensive.. about games...
no i haven't played any of the two, and not intending to. And even if i played them, i wont write a useless bloc.

but....

i still expected you to prefer halo, somehow ;)
i suggest you go defend more serious subjects with the same heart.

[Gazondaily]

"no i haven't played any of the two, and not intending to. And even if i played them, i wont write a useless bloc. "

No, instead you will write a useless comment with no value to it.

"haha so much on the defensive.. about games... "

Ironically, you severed friendships over your ill-informed opinions. I suggest you learn to set a better example, especially for those that you are now responsible for.

[Kribwalker]

What I find funniest is all these guys that have adamantly stated they don't need an Xbox to play the Xbox games cause they have a killer PC, so they don't have an Xbox, are claiming to have played a lot of Halo 5, one Xbox exclusive not on pc. Hmmmm, care to share your Xbox gamer tag so we can see what kind of time you have put into it to have formed your opinion? Because otherwise your opinion is moot.

Now, me, I put a lot of time into destiny 1 (over 700 hrs) and have put in about 25hrs into destiny 2 so far, and can say that each game has different elements that differentiate each other enough. The multiplayer in halo 5 is the best multiplayer I've played this gen. without a doubt. The 60fps arena mode is fast and top notch. The war zone mode is very cool, as well. Destinys cruicible mode is not better then that. Destiny 2s story mode is better then halo 5, but so many elements are stolen from the halo games. Like the level where you are driving the tanks in d2. That felt like it was straight outa halo 3.
Overall, destiny 2 and halo 5 have enough differences to feel like completely different games

[MegamanXXX]

The multiplayer in halo 5 is the best multiplayer I've played this gen.

That's subjective. I actually think Quake Champions, Titanfall 2, and Destiny 2 multiplayer is better than Halo 5 multiplayer. Just my opinion.

[shiva1]

@ Megaman

If MP comparision becomes subjective and all of a sudden you get quake, titanfall to compare MP then i can compare destiny 2 campaign to any other game and call it subjective....

Dude stay to the point. H5 MP is the best out there when compared with D2.

[MegamanXXX]

@Shiva1

I agree with the article I like Destiny 2 Multiplayer better than Halo 5. And that is on point 👍🤔😁

[crazyCoconuts]

I agree , the games really are quite different in their core. Destiny has surely won in terms of engaging Co-op play, but Halo is the console gold standard for competitive arena multi-player. Lots of configurations, different game modes, map editors, 60fps, etc.

[Black0ut]

Well said coconuts. H5 MP is definitely a gold standard and in my honest opinion Destiny 2 MP doesn't even come close.

[bouzebbal]

gaming is just a hobby, i have more important things to deal with, trust me.
which friendship? never severed any because of games.. i'm not 12 anymore.
you are a fanboy defending your favorite game no matter what because it's on your cherished console.
Horizon sucks, Destiny sucks, Halo is so good. there you have it.
it's your life but what a sad one taking it so personal because of games! except if you are working in the field? oh you make reviews :D :D

[Gazondaily]

"Horizon sucks, Destiny sucks, Halo is so good. there you have it. "

Difference is I've actually played the games? You haven't? So the value of your contribution is ZERO. And I love that you're still aching over my early impressions of Horizon. What did you say about fanboys? You completely lost it when I said my early impressions of it weren't that great. You say you're not 12 yet your behaviour states otherwise.

"it's your life but what a sad one taking it so personal"

Ironic considering you've repeatedly taken it personally yourself.

"gaming is just a hobby, i have more important things to deal with, trust me"

I hope you're better at dealing with those things than you are in conversing because that leaves a lot to be desired.

You've inserted yourself in an article you admit you know nothing about. Yet you have more important things to deal with? Time to re-evaluate your life choices methinks.

[MegamanXXX]

@Kribwalker

Why would I give my gamer tag to a stranger 🤔🤔

[Kribwalker]

You give your gamer tag to strangers every time you play online. The only reason for your reasoning is that you haven't played it and you are caught talking out your ass

[MegamanXXX]

Again why would I give my gamer tag to a stranger on N4G??

[SpaceRanger]

Disagree.

Bungie's Halo & Destiny (destiny 2 specifically) outclasses current Halo, which is basically turning into other generic shooters as per their last installment with Halo 5.

[chrisx]

Kudos to bungie. Halo has been a sinking and over milked franchise since they left.

[guywazeldatatt]

343 has destroyed it. Halo 5 was crap

[DJStotty]

personal opinion not fact

[Zeref]

Halo 5 has the best multiplayer of the franchise right now.

And Halo 4 had the best story of the franchise. Both by 343.

Now they just have to combine these 2 things and Halo 6 will be freaking amazing.

[Mulando]

actually Halo 4 & 5 were the first halo parts, I really could follow the plot. Halo 1-3 ... I really tried to like them, but I really don't care about their story, characters, or whatever.

[BulletProofVess]

I enjoy destiny 2 and agree that it is an improvement in many ways over its predecessor.. honestly wish it was just an expansion on the first one as they refined many of flaws of the first one but did not add much new content (same enemies similar tasks and story line mission design yet patrol areas are much more rewarding in destiny 2)

Purchased the deluxe or what not that includes the dlc as I made the mistake in the first one of buying each expansion separately which ended up way more expensive than the season pass. This is a necessity as the games player base becomes extremely fractured once dlc launches and will surely be the same in this one. Yet, I accept it.

My biggest gripe of this game is the changes to the crucible I want to see a return to the 12 player matches of pure chaos.. 4v4 is definitely more balanced and tactical ( Plus the game has always had the trials as a serious competitive and tactical multiplayer mode ) but I loved craziness of 6v6 with the much faster super charge times
The map sizes don't seem to play well with 4v4 for me either as a game of domination is a constant swing of capture points and spawns as their aren't enough players to effectively cover your spawn and the desired middle point.
Theres obviously a big enough player base to support both 4v4 and 6v6 and even 3v3 if they go back to that as they had in Destiny 1.

4v4 is also odd as the rest of the game revolves are groups of 3 so if I play crucible with my regular group were guaranteed a random where in the Destiny 1 it is much more likely to have two groups of three working together on a team..

[Kribwalker]

Halo an overmilked franchise since bungie left? That's funny. Since bungie left there Will be the 4th main god of war game (god of war 3, ghost of Sparta, gow assension, and the new god of war) then there has been uncharted 3, uncharted golden abyss, uncharted 4 and lost legacy (4 uncharted games), both of those have been during the time MS released two halo games 4/5.

[isa_scout]

What about Halo:Spartan Assault and Halo Wars 2? Ascension and Ghost of Sparta are not"Main" gow games either.If you're going to name the Uncharted spinoffs like Golden Abyss(Vita) and TLL shouldn't those Halo games count? If we're talking actual numbered releases Halo has more. If you're talking games with the name attached to them there's far more Halo games than Uncharted to.And dont get me started on how 343 botched The Master Chief Collection. That game should've been killer. I play Halo for the story, that's why I buy the novels as well, but Halo 5 had an absolutely trash campaign. If 343 makes Halo 6 more like 4's campaign with Halo 5 mp it'd be the perfect Halo game. Hopefully they know this. After TMCC and Halo 5 though I'm only willing to give them one more shot.

[MegamanXXX]

What's hilarious you had to mention Sony. This is not a Sony article.

[Kribwalker]

@megamanxx
It's a non Sony article full of Sony fanboys that have never played halo 5 comparing it to destiny 2

[jaekapow]

But those games gameplay mechanics and stories have drastically changed in the later installments. Halo just seems like the same ol same ol

[PlayableGamez-]

Halo Spartan Assault is a tablet game.

[DigitalRaptor]

"It's a non Sony article full of Sony fanboys that have never played halo 5 comparing it to destiny 2"

Only in your suspicious and non-factual opinion, have these people never played Halo 5. You brought up Sony because of your hangups and refused to accept that your examples were bad and not really as balanced as you thought they were. There's a new Halo release every year.

[Kribwalker]

@digital raptor

What halo released last year? I'd like to know cause I'd prolly pick it up

[P_Bomb]

What's with the uncharted pokes? Don't even know how it factored into a Destiny talkback.

But, if we're gonna bring up golden abyss time and again which wasn't even a console game (vita was a handheld, an entirely different piece of hardware all together), then you should count the handheld Halo Spartan Strike.

Likewise if you wanna count Lost Legacy as a strike (an expansion to UC4 which also pops UC4 trophies), count Halo Wars, Halo Wars 2 and Halo Spartan Assault which are all on Xbox as well.

I don't know how you're counting Halo games, but the official Halowaypoint apps already list em https://www.halowaypoint.co...

Still don't know what any of this has to do with Destiny.

[PlayableGamez-]

Yeah because Destiny isn't being milked. LMAO.
At least 343i gives their DLC out for free.

[isa_scout]

Halo Spartan Assault also released on Xbox One. I downloaded it, and it wasn't very good.

[Black0ut]

Same old flamers on here mate. You guys never change.

[FallenAngel1984]

To think Destiny could've been Microsoft's new major flagship franchise if they let Bungie work on a new IP instead of only wanting them to stick to Halo

[guywazeldatatt]

Bungie made the right choice. They are killing it. They faltered at first but destiny has grown so much

[FallenAngel1984]

@ Infected

Rare is like Microsoft's only big notable internal developer that's allowed to work on any new IP it pleases.

Every other Microsoft owned dev team including 343i, Turn 10, Mojang, & The Coalition will most likely only work on one franchise for the rest of their existence.

[CrimzonRazor]

To bad Rare is making sea of theives and it sucks

[IamTylerDurden1]

Imagine if Destiny was exclusive to xbox and a new MS flagship? That and a few other strategic moves may have been enough to allow MS to compete with Sony this gen. Imagine if Lionhead was never forced to make kinect/f2p games and instead was working on Fable 4 for the past 4 years while tailoring it for the X? Imagine if it released on Nov 7th? Imagine if both Crackdown 3 and Fable 4 released on Nov 7th and were spectacular showcases for the X? MS needs to question the leadership of the Xbox Division imo. Yes, Phil was still involved when these decisions were made, even if it wasn't in the same capacity as now.

[UCForce]

Well, this is first time I agree with you. Yes, Destiny 2 is better than Halo 5.

[guywazeldatatt]

Hahahaha thanks! Halo as a series is just not really good anymore.

[Yohshida]

Tell me about those times you play Halo, OH WAITTTTT

[UCForce]

I did play all Halo series but I prefer Bungie Halo once. It wasn't just about nostalgia. It was about making good game back then. I don't like 343 Halo version because they don't understand enough.

[DigitalRaptor]

Tell me about those times you played the new God of War game to come to the dumb conclusion you have about it. Oh WAITTT...

All the Xbox fanboys getting triggered by those who don't prefer Halo to Destiny.

[meka2611]

@Digitalraptor
Dude I got both systems and destiny is a piece of junk. I'm guessing you didn't play a lot of grind heavy mmo's. Destiny's grind feels just like that, a grind, with very little varying. Destiny has a piss poor excuse for a story, horrible loot that barely does anything, you never feel like you gain any levels or power since enemies scale really close to you, the levels are just boring to go through over and over and over again, times inifinity. Just look at warframe for a game that does grinding right, or hell even WOW. Destiny is just a shit grind fest that gets boring really fast.

[Yohshida]

@DigitalRaptor
Did you play the new GOW? How you know its gud eh? All I did way analyse what we saw until then. None the less, thanks for bringing up things that have nothing to do with the article.

I just find it funny seeing the same people trolling in every Xbox article while they don't even own the system, never plan to or in your case never even held a xbox controller. Keep on hating.

[DigitalRaptor]

"Did you play the new GOW? How you know its gud eh? All I did way analyse what we saw until then. None the less, thanks for bringing up things that have nothing to do with the article."

Keep bringing the excuses. There's a certain baseline of quality that Santa Monica shoots for and it already looks more than good. Why would I have to have played the new God of War to see the stupidity and nonsense in your criticism of it and what has been shown so far? You were mad that it won E3 awards and so much so that you tweeted known toxic Xbox fanboys who you try and associate with to call it a "circle jerk" when it's simply people thinking a great looking action game looks great. https://twitter.com/VideoGa...

You senseless hot take on GOW was quite comparable to your senseless hot take on another PS4 game, Left Alive. Your attempts to worm your way out of your own projected nonsense about PS4 games is even worse. You have a problem with people saying they prefer one game over Halo because you think they haven't played it, but have no problem making rash and stupid assumptions about a game you haven't played. Your theory about him not having played Halo, has nothing to do with the article.

[Yohshida]

Your whole comment hast nothing to do with the article, good job!
He stated Destiny was the better game than Halo, how can he know? He never even owned a X1. The writer goes on to talk about the Destiny 2 Lore and MP and how its better than Halo 5. A blind person would see how wrong this is. Next time try not to rush out with your trolling and spew nonsense. Halo 5 got praised for its MP while Destiny 2 got a bad wrap for it.

[Vasto]

All I have to say is LOOL.

Better story than Halo?

Master Chief is video game icon and Destiny will never have a character on that level.

The Flood, Promethians, The Covenant, Cortana, Elizabeth Halsy? I can go keep going.

Halo Wars has better story than Destiny does.

/SMH

Destiny 2 is just a filler till Anthem comes out next year.

[UCForce]

No. Destiny 2 is much better than Halo 5 because it has beautiful art style mix between sci-fi and fantasy. Character design in Destiny 2 look resembles to Halo Reach character design which is good thing. Halo 5 character design look like a lot of plastic toys. Halo 5 campaign is mediocre especially focused too much on Osiris team which didn't work out pretty well. Destiny 2 story is more refined than the first one and there are some likeable characters like Cayde 6, Failsafe and others. Halo 5 didn't have one expect Master Chief who didn't have a lot of screen times. Destiny 2 isn't perfect but it much more improved than the first one.

[Vasto]

Learn to read.

I am talking about Halo series and not about Halo 5.

Also those people you talking about nobody even knows who they are. I sure as hell don't.

Everybody knows Halo.

Destiny does not have better story / lore than Halo does.

[Black0ut]

@Vasto

Just let them keep pretending in their own little alternate universe. These people are practically brainwashed lol.

[isa_scout]

The flood has always sucked, and 343 absolutely ruined Cortanas character. Spartan Locke was an absolute joke of a character, all because 343 got to big for their britches and thought they could write off the Chief. I do agree on The Covenant though. Also, The Fall of Reach novel is better than any Destiny lore I've read. The huge takeaway is that all the lore and world building was done long before 343 took over. All they've managed to do so far is ruin once great characters. If we're talking mp though Halo takes a crap all over Destiny. Halo 5 is one of the best arena multiplayers I've ever played.

[UCForce]

Sure, Halo series have better Story and Lore which I know a lot but 343 completely changed it with Halo 5. It won't be interesting as Bungie Halo was.

[Angainor7]

LOL! What is Destiny..?

[hanko14]

are they talking bungie halo or 343 halo? i havent played distiny 2, but bungie doing the halo series was great, i just wish if they remastered the series it would of been greater. as for 343 its a touch and go for these last two games, but enjoy multiplayer especially halo 4 maps and modes

[guywazeldatatt]

for me it's hard to compare bungie halo because that was 16 years ago and games are way different now. even look at OoT, 1997 (20 year-old-game). BOTW didn't technically overtake it with its reviews (almost), but if both were side-by-side today BOTW would destroy it. but again that's not fair. Halo revolutionized the FPS genre for consoles and that is quite an accomplishment. Halo 2 to me is the pinnacle of console FPS. but times have changed and Halo hasn't evolved.

[Muadiib]

BotW is highly overrated though, the same can't be said for Ocarina. The former did some things really well, many reviewers seemed to ignore it's many faults for some reason.

[TheHan]

Lol this is funny. Destiny is to boring. You have to fight something called the Darkness... How half assed is this story? You have to fight for your light to defeat the Darkness... Boring just talking about it. As for Halos story it's so rich and massive that theirs thousands of lores that have spawned off it and connect right back again. Bungie wanted a game like Halo so bad sense they didn't own the rights anymore that they created Destiny which is similar in many ways. In all honesty Destiny probably wouldn't be the successor it is if it wasn't for Multiplate forums. Halo would probably still be the King of Exclusives if Destiny was a Single console game which it's not.. As for Halo it's still King of the Console exclusives. Let's just hope Bungie doesn't sell the rights to Activision. The Gameplay is 100 times better than What Destiny has to offer, compared to Halo 5 it's to slow and sluggish. As for Halo 5 it's very fast intense and thrilling to play. You can tell that Bungie has that core feel of Halo in Destiny that's why it will never be better than Halo. It's not it's own original sense it was built on past Halo ideas/mechanics core side of the gameplay. You can go back and play the first 3 Halos and I'd be right.

[Relientk77]

I like the RPG elements Destiny 2 has like the sub classes, supers, and abilities, looting, and finding new and better gear. It's exciting. Also love public events with other guardians while exploring the planets, and strikes, all the co-op stuff.

So I'd say Destiny 2 has at least some cool stuff that's Halo doesn't even have

[Vasto]

I would jump all over Destiny 2 for Halo 6 and I have not even seen anything from it yet. LOL

[2cents]

opinions...
The Chief, Cortana, Noble team, Blue team, the ODST's and the covenant disagree... and so do I.

[ninsigma]

Story wise, Bungies halo had a better story. Gameplay wise definitely definitely D2 is way better. They've improved so much since those days and Destiny has some of the best gun play this gen. Haven't really dug into halos lore so I can't say either way but I can say that Destinys lore is fantastic. I love reading it because it's always interesting.

[spicelicka]

I have to disagree on gameplay. Halo 5 has nearly perfected the gameplay. Everything is fluid and so well balanced.

The fact that you start off evenly and have to use pure skill to compete makes it way better IMO. The tightness of controls allows you to have so much better control of your weapon, while destiny is inherently unbalanced with the weapons all having different characteristics.

https://giphy.com/gifs/halo...

While people are creating pod racing in Halo you can barely play on a few maps with the pike in Destiny. Forge and custom games are MILES ahead in Halo's MP. What destiny does better though is co-op.

[ninsigma]

I wasn't referring to halo 5.
Edit: only comparing to Bungie halo.

edit 2: Never played halo 5 MP in the full game but the beta was fan fricking tastic and from what I played there I'd agree and give gameplay to Halo 5 MP.

[Scar-]

I couldn't agree more it's hilarious how far up destiny ass gamers are now that it's the flavor of the month. I don't even like Halo but it's head and shoulders above destiny's mp offerings anyone that says otherwise is full of it.

[spicelicka]

Ahh ok. I think that partly has to do with aging of the gameplay. If you're comparing to Bungie's halo, you're essentially comparing a last gen game to current gen (Last Bungie halo came out 7 years ago!) so that's to be expected. Regardless, it doesn't matter. Destiny has really good gameplay, i just prefer Halo's.

[MegamanXXX]

I agree but XBOX fans will disagree

[WeAreLegion]

I'm just surprised people like Destiny this much. I played through the first one and was incredibly disappointed. Sure, the mechanics are great. But the AI is a joke, the areas aren't terribly big or worth exploring, and you play the same spots over and over again. Plus, the "RPG" element isn't even on the level of Borderlands. How are people satisfied with this series? I don't get it.

[gbsrnctaln]

D2 is MILES better than D1.

[Goldby]

Diablo 2 did make alot of improvements over Diablo

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Well good thing destiny 2 is better than 1 in almost every way

[TheHan]

Halo is so Popular that you could Put "Halo" on any item you wish to sell and it would sell out lol. Wright "Halo Pancakes" people would be buying them like the hot cakes they are.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Yeah that must be why halo wars 2 sold so well oh wait

[Vasto]

Halo 5 scored an 84 Meta and sold over 5 million copies on a single platform that has an install base of only around 30 million.

That's impressive and if anybody calls that a fail they are just a hater.

Even with a brand new Destiny 2 they just cant stop thinking about Halo! LOL

[kevnb]

In a series like halo thats a disappointment.

[Vasto]

Uncharted 4 has sold 10 million on PS4 that has an install base of 60 million.

Halo 5 which is considered one of the worst of the series sold just as well has Uncharted 4 when you look at the attach rate and Uncharted 4 is considered one of the best in the series.

Halo 5 is not a disappointment no matter how much the haters wish it was.

See you when Halo 6 gets revealed for the Beast in 2018!

[gbsrnctaln]

Halo 2 sold 8 mil on a console that sold 24 mil. Thats DOUBLE the attach rate lol

[gbsrnctaln]

Goalpost = moved. Got it 👍

[UCForce]

I don't think so. What people want from 343 is their new IP. Microsoft should let them do once.

[corroios]

Microsoft should have given total freedom to bungie. Just imagine if destiny was a xbox exclusive and destiny 2 a launch title for the x!!!!!!! A true system seller. But they failed hard. Biggest lost of this gen

[HeisenbergX]

The gameplay and lore is maybe better but story no way. Ahh i miss the first three Halo games and Reach good times.

[GrimDragon]

I find the enemy AI in destiny 2 to be fascinating......bungie has done really well this time around very happy with the product very polished. So much to do and lots of fun. Thx bungie.

[Felsager]

In terms of game mechanics, Destiny 2 is far superior in many ways. Bungie found a better place in the crafting of Destiny 2. They learned from their mistakes in Destiny one but still they need a long road ahead of them improving many other things. Destiny 2 is a good improvement and a better direction for the franchise.

I'm glad that Bungie left Halo and Microsoft Behind. Look how clumsy Microsoft is handling their game division. Their directer is a clueless dumbass who knows nothing about investments in exclusive studios. The whole project right now is in the red and every fiscal year is worst than the previous one.

Bungie fiscal years are improving dramatically since 2014 and 2016 interval. Bungie is more solvent economically with Activision than Microsoft despite all Activision's idiocy. Microsoft is simply blind and clueless handling their game division and their video game market.

I decided to wait one year for the purchase of Destiny 2. I'm sure it is better than Destiny 1 and Halo. Right now Bungie matured for the better in many ways, specially in gun play mechanics, hover bikes, and supers. They got that right. However they need to be much more flexible with parkour, speed and add flying. Bungie progress slow through the years while others coordinates better ideas on the long run.

Bungie achieved much more with Destiny franchise than Halo franchise. Do you know who held them back? Microsoft.
Destiny arrived to stay few more years but it needs to EVOLVE faster. I'm glad they went multi platform, decided to add dedicated servers and variety to the PVP. We all hate the micro transactions, we hope that sales becomes good enough so they can get revenues and break better than even. We don't like developers and publishers when they go all douchebags dolts and dumbass corporate suit dickasses exploiting their customers with micro transactions, pay walls and fractured DLCs. That shit needs to end. Bungie knows better and Destiny 2 could be their attempt towards to a good redeeming start.

BUNGIE, learn from Guerrilla Games. That will put you on the EDGE again.

[Enjoigamin]

Better story than Master Chief hahah gtfo. Halo will always be on top for multiplayer that's why they have a halo world championship every year with million dollar payout. I just beat destiny 2 like just right now.....better than Halo yall are delusional and Master Cheif is a ICON....this just made my day.

[roadkillers]

Franchises need a ending point or a good reason to continue. Halo finished in 2009 IMO. Gears finished in 2011. They can continue them, but to me they ended and I am uninterested.

[Sircolby45]

I vomited in my mouth when I read the story is better. This author obviously didn't play Halo 2 & 3. Destiny 2 hasn't come close to touching either.

[FernDiggidy]

The story is better?

[Sircolby45]

Destiny 2 had a story?

[iTrevT2]

Destiny is definitely going in the right direction, I'm having a blast in D2, But get real. Destiny has a LONG way to go to surpass Halo as a series. Combat Evolved was just put into the Video Game Hall of Fame. And I highly doubt you've ever read or looked into Halo's lore cause it's fantastic, Read the Fall of Reach Novel and tell me Destiny has anything close to that. And as far as Multiplayer, sorry but Destiny's crucible doesn't hold a candle to H5 or any other Halo MP, it's fun for awhile but nothing groundbreaking

I'm not even going to talk about the nonsense of some of the other stuff in the article ( Saying Halo is dead, Bad Characters, Calling the entire Halo community crap )

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Not with that awful story and aim assist.

[Liqu1d]

You mean the same aim assist present in Halo 5?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[galmi]

Why do pple always fall for the same rubbish from mediocre game journalism. They want hits and you keep giving it to them. And on this forum you can write something as bogus as "Alpha Protocol is better than Halo" and believe me you will have a majority that will agree with you stating they believe so too while claiming to never own an xbox, then how would you know?

[dunnyone]

Wow, you can't say a single negative thing about Destiny here... well:

It was bland as all hell. Took me all of 7 hours to finish Destiny 2. I was literally pushing forward. The enemy AI was non-existent. The PvP is okay, it's fine but come on, there is free Halo multiplayer online that smashes this. For $60 I feel as if I was totally duped into a purchase. Extremely average game. Halo tho...

Halo 1, 2 and 3 and hell, even 4 are some of the greatest shooters there are. AI is sharp, multiplayer was brilliant and level design was epic.

Fuck Destiny. Downvote if you will, but it won't make the game any better. $60, lol. $60...

Edit: I forgot about Halo 5 - Destiny is def better than THAT shitshow. But Halo 1? Nope.

[SinisterKieran]

so after playing it i can confirm...this is what an expansion is.
the only thing new about this game is the 3 sub classes and the short story.

[Yohshida]

Hahahaha nice joke bud. Grinding all day to get better loot isnt fun at all. Halo is on another league when it comes to Gameplay and Multiplayer. Sorry but keep your grindfest.

[Pantz]

Nice OPINION PIECE. Good thing opinions don't need any truths in them to post them.

[bennissimo]

Better than Halo 5? Sure.

Better than "Halo"? Hardly.

When Zavala and your Ghost are as iconic as Master Chief and Cortana, then well talk.

[bluefox755]

With the current state of Halo, it's hard to disagree.

[spicelicka]

Not in the lore department. Despite the subpar story in Halo 5, it's way better than D2. The multiplayer is far beyond what Destiny has to offer.

It may have surpassed in popularity and co-op, but not in gameplay. Bungie's own sandbox creation with vehicles, custom games, theater, forge, competitive arena gameplay is unbeatable.

[jokerisalive]

I love Destiny but Halo is still better to me imo. Also I wish that Destiny, like Halo, could be played offline in the future thru a patch or whatever once the servers don't support the older game anymore. Halo has a sp offline campaign as well as great mp so it's a better overall package for your money regardless if Halo 5 was not as good as the older games. Either way I am loving Destiny 2 on my white Pro I picked up as I am sure many others are.

[kayoss]

Anyone want to carry me?

[lellkay]

Destiny is ok-good. Halo 5 is ok.

But lets not pretend Destiny 1 or 2 are anywhere near the level of Halo 1-3

[Sm00thNinja]

Ummmm... I'm loving Destiny 2 but this is a huge stretch

[maybelovehate]

Destiny 1 surpassed Halo in my opinion. Vault of Glass was better than anything Bungie did in any Halo game.

[WePlayDirty]

This couldn't be farther from the truth

[Gunstar75]

Haven't played D2 as I found D1 boring.
I like the Halo games...some more than others

[GreenUp]

Has the Xbox One versions solely beat Halo tho? Or is this combining all platforms to Halo's exclusivity?

[Donnie81]

Oh yeah my dad can beat up your dad!

[Takwin]

They nailed it. Only played the beta as I would get this on PC for sure if I ever get it (mouse+keyboard superiority), but man it was so smooth, great looking, and fun. What a major improvement over the dull first one, and even the highest of highs of the early Halo's.

[Monduu]

online only... no thank you very much.

article is most likely written by a preteen.

[philemond2010]

Whoever wrote this is on crack 😂 halo 5 MP is the best fps mp i've played in years...its well put together n skills is required or u will be destroyed.....u can argue its not so traditional halo with the fast gameplay but as a mp game its near perfect.if u remove the name halo from halo 5 n call it something else it would of been the best shooter on the market . destiny is a rinse n repeat experience in both story and side quests i've played hours and realize how dumb down the experience is...i barely died only time i died is when one big guy teleported me outside the map or the ground disappeared n i fell to my death...smh its a kids game...my friend little brother is a beast at Destiny yet long time gamers are trash at halo 5 🤣 hard core skills is something u need to obtain kills in halo 5 that is facts

[XStation4pio_Pro]

two different games but sure. also... destiny is multiplatform so not only does it have access to more people, it has more platforms, and that means more revenue which means more production budget which means higher end designers, writers and developers, advertising and so on. this is exactly why most developers don't actually like doing exclusives unless they are compensated for the difference and exactly why bungie chose to do what it did. its also why developers who do exclusives to one platform usually get bought out or financed from them - like suckerpunch, naughty dog and revolution for example. thats the trade off for licensing your IP to one platform.

[JokerDem]

It's as if we can't play both games on Xbox!?!? N4G trys so damn hard to hate on anything Xbox related.

[Wolfrunt]

Now lets see if they can repeat that success next game out , seeing how it took their second game to achieve that feat . so am guessing next game will be a massive disappointment , Know what I will be skipping ........lol

[Dragonscale]

Still so much salt over Bungie leaving ms lol.

[danny818]

lol! is better than D1. Overall not better than Halo... RELAX

[fathertime4464]

Funny cause I get every halo game. After the 1st Destiny I don't feel compelled to get the second. The only reason the series is doing better than halo is because it's a multiplat.

[horndog]

D2 is awsome on PS4 because they don't have Halo. What can they say ? Oh wait ... PC right ?

[Zeref]

Clickbait article is clickbait.

Destiny is a different game.

Gameplay better? lol lets not kid ourselves. Destiny gunplay is great but it sucks for multiplayer.

Story is better? Lol nope try again. Halo 5 story was lackluster but it was better than Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 story is also lackluster. so it's a tie here when we compare recent games.

Lore is better? Get outta here. Halo lore is on par with Star Wars lore. You obviously know nothing about it.

Multiplayer Is better? At this point you're obviously under influence. Only multiplayer in the Halo series which was not great(still better than destiny) was Halo 4. Halo 5 has arguably the best Multiplayer this gen.

[CrimzonRazor]

Destiny 2 wins hands down main story wise, halo 5 wins hands down in mp, bungie your 4v4 sucks.

[Condemnedman]

hang on Sony fanboys comparing halo gtfoh

destiny's story is poor by comparison

[GamingCentaur]

Halo is way past it’s prime.
Did you forget Destiny is also available on Xbox?

[C-H-E-F]

If the story is better than halo that means halo has no story and it was over-glorified, I'm sorry, I have never played Halo, but i played Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 beta and I will tell you this, I have to disagree with this there's no way Halo made it to where it is if Destiny 2 is better than it. Microsoft has three great games, Halo and Forza, Gears saying something like Destiny 2 surpassed Halo is a HUGE statement. However, i'm dictating my statement from observing the brand since it's initial launch i've never owned an xbox as well... This just seemed absurd lOl.

[mandingo]

I can't say agree. Especially in regards to story and multiplayer

[MattSomething]

Curious how many people take an opinion piece like this as actual news. #fakenews

[ElementX]

How about instead of comparing Destiny to Halo 5, you compare it to a Halo actually made by Bungie?

[bolimekurac]

oh stop it, its a freaking remake of destiny 1. its no halo and it hasnt surpassed it

[Elda]

Played for 6hrs straight Sat night,the game is fun!

[stamps1646]

Destiny 2 MP is a fkng joke, LOL! Halo 5 may have had a forgettable campaign, but that MP is Boss.

[LexHazard79]

Was this written by a Bungie/Destiny fanboy?

Destiny is good co op fun with friends. The story is ok the 1st one was wack!! I just started 2 so I cant say yet, And the competitive multiplayer is not in the same league as Halo! But hey Ill let you guys just disagree and tell me how wrong I am. 😂🤡s

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

I have to agree, destiny 2 is the total package. It eclipses halo in every way.

[Black0ut]

No it hasn't. Lol wtf is this BS 😂😂😂

[GamingCentaur]

Yes, it has. Even the first Destiny sold better than Halo 5. It was also consistently higher than Halo 5 on the XB1 Most Popular charts......

[CapitalGamerNZ]

So, comparing Destiny 2 against Halo 4....well done! Read the article and he clearly states he didnt even bother with Halo 5 which to me is a brilliant multiplayer experience.

He uses so much rhetoric to support his point if view that the article comes across as though he is a fanboy.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Forever Halo F Destiny...

[bestofthebest]

Destiny 2 is great I haven't been hooked like this in a game for a while

[ZwVw]

For goodness sake, stop passing clickbait opinion piece articles off as fact.

[Tko1111]

Really who makes these idiot articles? Halo is finally taking the time it needs to bring the ring back to it universe but destiny is finally bringing what gamers were promised although it still needs help with lore and mission advancement.

[irishyort]

People still play this!

*jokes*
im waiting for these comments again haha

[MADGameR]

The Halo franchise has been LOOOOOOONG dead. The only people trying to give it pheonix downs are the X Box fanboys

[Smokingunz]

This person has something personal against halo. I do agree that halo is dead though, halo has been dead since the 3rd game. Halo was too repetitive for me, same graphics, same story and same enemies.

343 aren't good devs anyway. I can honestly say though halo 5 mtiplayer is great, I think it's the best out of all halos. It's funny how this guy bashed halo 5 but he said he only played it a little bit, that was funny lol. Halo 5 is better than the first destiny though. Plus years was always the better game anyway. The 1st gears trumps the halo series as a whole.

Microsoft's problem is that they don't have any good studios to make their games great. Look at gears 4 ( which is an excellent game by the way but still felt like a step back) the coalition is nowhere as talented as epic. Epic took gears to new heights with every gears they made except for judgement. I also fear gears will suffer the same fate too because of the lack of talented teams at Microsoft.

Microsoft should hire Bungie to do halos again

[gamer7804]

Halo has a much better story and characters but destiny has the raids loot, and community events.

[link2Dpast]

Got the game yesterday. Haven't gotten that far , just went through the whole intro and finally to the first town and the whole way the game felt like what Halo should of been. Bungie definitely has a unique touch and you can definitely see how much the halo franchise has depreciated without the ideas and work of bungie.

[Father Murder X]

why is everyone attacking Halo all of a sudden? It has been 2 years since Halo 5 came out.

[ZorinInc]

I've played through Destiny 1 and couldn't tell you what any of it means, storyline, who the baddies are, nothing.

[BenRC01]

Its just that 343 destroyrd halo

[conanlifts]

As a game i think destiny is better, but the lore in halo surpasses that in destiny. Halo mp also destroys crucible for gameplay.