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Youtuber, Total Biscuit, Fires Shots at the site who call PC Gaming “Way too Hard”, we respond

A few days ago VICE, also a popular publication site known for their documentaries published an article claiming that PC Gaming is hard. Vice has a few subdomains for the respective categories where their articles are published. Writer, Emanuel Maiberg, who wrote the article published the article with the title “PC Gaming is Still Way too Hard“. Before even Total Biscuit responded to this on Twitter GeeksULTD had read the article itself as it was shared quite a bit on social media. However, the writer of the article claims a few points of why he justifies PC Gaming as “Way too Hard” in these clear points.

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generic-user-name2853d ago

The point that you need to keep putting money into a PC to be 'cutting edge' is true though. Of course you don't need to be 'cutting edge' but he was right.

GeeksULTD2853d ago

A GTX 780 or R9 290 will be cheap and will get the job done. No need to upgrade every year. Consider that

generic-user-name2853d ago

Get the job done and cutting edge are two different things.

Erik73572853d ago

Or a gtx1060 that's as powerful as a gtx980 and only $250

freshslicepizza2853d ago

there are people who still play games on a 5 year old gpu, i'm not sure what your point is. unlike consoles you are not locked in and better yet neither is your software.

Kleptic2850d ago (Edited 2850d ago )

EDIT: just saw this is all 3 days old, but still showing as the 1st most popular article?

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TheFirstClassic2853d ago

Yeah I built mine for 650 dollars a year and a half ago and I still dont have any real need to upgrade. Witcher 3 runs at 40 fps on high.

ITPython2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

Yikes, you can play and enjoy a game below a solid unchanging 60fps? I find that anything under 60fps is too choppy, especially since that framerate isn't locked and can have some drastic mood swings. I need my games on PC to be running at exactly 60fps at all times otherwise the constant shifting of the fps drives me insane.

Its odd though, as 30fps on a console game feels fine to me (its certainly tolerable), but even if I lock a game at 30fps on my pc it feels really choppy and the controls are sluggish. For me the feeling of dropping at all below 60fps in a pc game has the same feeling as dropping below 30fps on a console game.

ONESHOTV22853d ago

ITPython..... 40-45 is an alright spot you still get the smooth feeling but if it drops to 30 then that's where the problem is 30 frames dont feel too good when using a mouse

starchild2853d ago

@ITPYTHON

You're capping your framerate the wrong way then. Use Nvidia inspector and use the 1/2 refresh rate setting. It feels identical to the same games on my PS4.

Moreover, anyone serious about PC gaming should get themselves a monitor with variable refresh rate (i.e. g-sync and freesync). My Gsync monitor is the best purchase I have ever made for my PC gaming. Framerates around 40fps, like the example cpayne93 gave, are perfectly smooth. And of course you can also enjoy when your framerates go higher as well. Playing some games at 144Hz is amazing.

GeeksULTD2853d ago

R9 290 could easily max out games at 1080p with good FPS, better than consoles. If it comes to the cutting edge, at 1080p the R9 290 or even the GTX 970 will do very well. And yeah, if you have the monitor, 1440p decently as well

glassgannon9092853d ago

wtf you smoking?
i had a 390x and even that couldnt max out 1080p with good fps in most demanding games unless things were skewed heavily in amd's favor with the drivers and api's

Gh05t2853d ago

As opposed to what? What in life do you not have to invest money into to remain "cutting edge" especially in technology?

Not to mention the if PC's are still too hard what is the alternative, a console? That hasnt been cutting edge since PS2 and XBOX. our systems are now way behind the PC market.

generic-user-name2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

Ugh, read the article. This guy is claiming another guy was wrong for saying you need to keep investing money to be cutting edge. I am saying he was right.

Don't get so bloody defensive over pcs and actually read what you're commenting on.

glassgannon9092853d ago

did you even read? for one, ps2 and xbox werent cutting edge because of how much they could do, they were cutting edge because of what they could do in so little.
in a pc , gfx cards become old in a year and youre out of the cutting edge troupe .the titan x was launched in march 2015 and it was the best and most expensive thing and its already being outperformed by a 1070, which isnt even gonna be in the top 3 strongest cards of this pascal lineup considering 1080,ti and next titan are all probably stronger..

kingdom182853d ago

It's not like console gaming is cutting edge. PC gaming is the only place to get the most "cutting edge" in terms of graphics. But that doesn't mean you need to be "cutting edge", far from it actually. You can play most new games at the same settings as consoles with modest specs. So yes your right. But that doesn't mean you have to use cutting edge hardware.

generic-user-name2853d ago

That was never once my argument.

"So yes your right"

I know

Anything else you're getting from my comment is your own business.

rainslacker2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

My PC is about 5 years old, and the GPU wasn't cutting edge when I got it, and it can still play almost all the games on PC just fine. Maybe not ultra settings, but for the most part, it's perfectly acceptable.

I could dump a bit of money into this same PC, and have something more powerful than consoles should I choose, and that money wouldn't even have to be as much as the consoles are, and I'd easily get another 5 or so years out of it.

That being said, dumping money to remain cutting edge, doesn't really make PC gaming hard. One can do so when they feel compelled to do it. No rush really more often than not. In the meantime, they can play their games, and when they do decide to upgrade, assuming they've brought their computer in the last 5-7 years, it takes maybe 30 minutes to install a video card and drivers and be on one's way to continue playing their games in better quality.

Quite truthfully, most of the games themselves aren't cutting edge, so why would one be compelled to stay on that edge when it doesn't return much. This will be even more true going forward, as returns on new GPU's are going to become exponentially less with each iteration.

starchild2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

It's sad the way many people on this site use the PC as a means to bash the Xbox, but whenever a PC article comes shows up where are all these supposed "PC gamers" to defend it? Instead we get a bunch of these same people trying to attack or downplay PC gaming.

generic-user-name2852d ago

Why are so many people not getting my point? I can only assume they didn't bother to read the article.

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PutridPlop2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

All is points are valid. My PC is significantly outdated and for a decent upgrade it will cost me around $800, I also live in Canada so everything costs almost twice as much here as it does in the US. I'm waiting for Scorpio, hopefully I can just throw my crap PC in the closet and forget about it.

Kingthrash3602853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

Lol how much you think a scorpio gunna run you with Canadian bucks? Lol it looks to be a 599.99 machine in the sYates gunna be like a G-ball in Canada no?
You'll save 200 Canada bucks and have a more powerful rig, playing the same games.....use the 200 to buy 3 games and bamm....win
Your welcome.

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freshslicepizza2853d ago

@Majister-Ludi
"Are you ever not speaking directly from your ass? Seriously you have no facts or proof so shut up."

some people can't help themselves and have an agenda and that agneda is to make the xbox seem redundant.

Kingthrash3602853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

So what I said wasn't fact?
God I can even tell him that it would be cheaper to upgrade his pc and enjoy XBOX GAMES. How am I hating on xbox????????????? Lol man look up my comment and find me saying $@(& xbox or "xbone" or "xbox sucksss"
I have my opinion yes....but ive never just dissed tge xbox out of the air. I love my xbox....I do dislike how MS is destroying xbox and tried time and time again to hurt gaming for a buck. I ask where are the games BECAUSE I WANT GAMES. Gees yall too busy defending MS and missing the fact that the xbo lacks games. It's best games are 360 games!!! Dear god! WAKE UP.
All I was doing was correcting him. He said it would be too expensive when the scorpio would cost more....but hey, he might not even live in Canada becuse even at 499 it would still cost less to upgrade...and if you prefer console then say that to begin with instead of lying and saying it would cost more to upgrade when it would not.
Dam.
It's funny how I'm supporting the Xbox games...I never said play Playstation games. I was just helping and all a sudden I'm talking out my ass.
Xbots...smdh
people like you xbots are the reason the xbo isnt selling well start asking for the games....I swear I thought it was MS who did 180s...no its xbots who have done it more.
Power don't matter, to power is everything
Exclusives are everything, to I'm happy to share.
Indies are crap, to I can't wait for them!
Neo will kill console gaming, to I'm buying scorpio day1!!
I can go on.

Liqu1d2853d ago

moldybread talking about others having an agenda lol.

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Kornholic2853d ago

PC players are often intentionally misleading about the easiness of PC gaming.

uth112853d ago

They downplay problems, downplay costs.

So many times I've seen them quote a low price on a gaming PC build that they claim will beat PS4/XB1 for less money. Except that build will be missing crucial components, like Windows, or Case which hides the true cost. It will be built out of low-end parts that none of them would even consider using in their own rig, and the information that it outperforms PS4 will be based on what some guy on NeoGaf claimed. When you check a reputable benchmark site, it won't quite measure up.

Source- I've done a few dozen PC builds since 1995

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Ysmir67232853d ago

The ps4/xb1 consoles are very easily beatable.My 1500 euro pc has more than 18 trillion floating point operations per second.Consoles are made from very low quality parts,worse than low end pc parts.Consoles where i live cost 400 euro+50 for bigger hard drive+50 for extra contoller+50 for 2 years extra warranty and if you keep it,lets say 5 years its 5*50.So consoles,with more expensive games,usually 3 time as expensive as pc games i purchase,is about 800 euro with a single game.And i ask you:Why in the world would any pc player pay 800 euro for a 40 euro tablet cpu,a 60 euro gpu and even ancient bluetooth 2.0?To play games at 900/1080p 30fps at low/medium settings?

Timesplitter142853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

what on earth is complicated about PC gaming? You could say it costs more money and you'd be right... but complicated?

You get a guide ( http://www.logicalincrement... ), buy the parts, put it together in an hour and you're done. And then you enjoy DOOM at a mind-bogglingly smooth 144 fps on ultra settings with Vulkan. The only downside is that you won't ever be able to go back to those near-unplayable 30fps games after that

It's not PC gamers who are misleading; it's the other people who have an irrational fear of building PCs

uth112853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

it only takes an hour to assemble the hardware IF there are no snags. Sometimes things don't work, sometimes the holes in the case don't line up properly with the components, sometimes things flat out don't fit (gpu is too long and there's no space in the case for example)

Then it's still time consuming installing the OS, all the drivers, and the software- often there are snags there too. And if you've never done it before, there's a learning curve there too. How do you think a newbie is going to respond when they have to decide to install between MBR and UEFI when they don't even know what that means? That's just one choice among many, and the information will get overwhelming quickly.

PC building is ultimately a hobby. If you have the time and patience for it, it's a fun hobby. But you can't expect people with different hobbies or lifestyles to not be intimidated or even interested in learning because they have other priorities. And acting like these people are idiots is hardly going to win them over.

Timesplitter142853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

Let's consider an absolute worst-case scenario where assembling your PC takes you two evenings (10 hours).

10 hours every 3-4 years isn't something that "requires time and patience". Besides, even I don't know what MBR and UEFI actually do in practice, but I don't even have to know. I just have to follow google's advice

Actually I don't even know why we're talking about building PCs. You can buy pre-built PCs for only like 10% more money than you would've spent building it manually

uth112853d ago

10 hours is like an entire weekend lost to the project and perhaps a very grumpy customer who was repeatedly told it would "only take an hour, tops!"

And you can't rely on google for advice because many people have opinions that will steer you wrong. You need to do your own research.

Timesplitter142853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

Again, that "Logical Increments" guide I linked above is all you will ever need. It's been around for years and has always been trustworthy and up-to-date. Every tier contains the best, inter-compatible, low-risk components currently available

Clunkyd2853d ago

Or maybe they don't want to deal with any issues on PC. It's inevitable.

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LucasRuinedChildhood2853d ago

Saying that a PC itself costs less than a console, ".... If you build it" has always been a bit of a cop–out. You can easily make the point that it's cheaper in other ways, which makes the dishonesty even more silly. I can't believe someone has already used the word "peasant" in the comments section.

Ysmir67232853d ago

Depends how smart and wiiling you are.For me,and all my gaming friends who all play only on pc,is very easy.If it seems hard to you,and console players,simply dont play on pc.

Razzer2852d ago

Still don't get why everyone assumes PC gaming requires building a gaming PC.

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BLKxSEPTEMBER2853d ago

I'm still running a 7950 so I'm sure it will cost me a good chunk of change to get up to date.

Movefasta19932853d ago

What 200dollars?your gpu is over 4 years old no shit

BLKxSEPTEMBER2853d ago

What kind of dumb ass reply is that to my statement?

BlacKJesu52853d ago

Your comment was dumb...card is old as hell....you can spend $200 and be good for another 4 years

BLKxSEPTEMBER2853d ago

There's more than just updating your graphics card to be up to date. You have no idea what my computer can or can't do so assuming I only need to spend 200 to be caught up it dumb...

Movefasta19932853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

lol thank you,dude is lost in time. Some dusty gpu,xbox one can over power .

Majister-Ludi2853d ago

Honestly this guy has no idea what he is talking about I upgrade my pc on a console cycle more or less. I also enjoy looking for different parts to get a high quality experience. Honestly only one word comes to mind when I listen to this guy bitching and it's peasant.

yomfweeee2853d ago

Congratulations, but your single experience doesn't prove anything. Your average person couldn't build their own PC without a lot of research.

ninsigma2853d ago

No one can build a pc until they put in a lot of research. Do you think PC gamers just magically knew how to build one?? Do it once, you know how to do it forever.

FlameBaitGod2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

yomfwee if the average person cant built a PC than humanity is over, I built mine at 14 years old by looking at youtube videos, "a lot of research" LOL!!! like if we where building a freaking plane. I love the majority of people here commenting without ever trying to build a PC Lol.

yomfweeee2853d ago (Edited 2853d ago )

@ninsigma

Maybe I shouldn't have said "a lot of" but it does require research. And I want to clarify that when I'm talking about "building a pc", I'm not talking about just the putting it together part... I'm talking about everything you need to know and understand to even get to that point (just like the VICE article was talking about). For example compatible components? You knew you had to get certain things that worked together. Aside from compatibility, you could spend a long time just picking a component cause there are endless options for each.

My nephew for example is 19 years old. He considers himself a PC gamer and doesn't really ever use his console. He came to me this week asking what kind of GPU he should get for his girlfriend's computer. I can't just give him an answer without several questions. What kind of motherboard does she have and what kind of slots are in it? Have much space is available inside physically to fit a card? What kind of power supply is in it? That's just the beginning of it.

@FlameBaitGod

I've built my own PC, so don't embarrass yourself with comments acting like you know who has or hasn't built a PC. I'm not some PC master race type of person who thinks a 5 year old could build a computer. I can be realistic. Your first comment about humanity is beyond ignorant as well. Humanity is over if the average person can't build a PC? A vast majority of PCs are pre-built. The world wouldn't change if no one couldn't build their own PC.

freshslicepizza2853d ago

i built my own pc, it wasn't very hard. just make sure the parts match up and the key is the motherboard.

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Comparing All The Current Game Streaming Subscription Services

In 2020 the sheer number of game streaming subscriptions makes you wonder where you should focus your energy and money. Are you are looking for a streaming subscription to satisfy your gaming needs? Well, we put together a table overview for you to peruse and possibly see which ones you might prefer, or see why some of these are now redundant services.

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isarai1549d ago (Edited 1549d ago )

Sony just needs to up its resolution and framerate and it'll be quite the service, still don't like streaming though so doesn't really matter to me.

SpaceRanger1549d ago

Why is Xbox GamePass on this? Not a streaming service.

CaptainCook1548d ago

Xcloud will be included with Xbox Game Pass this year

RazzerRedux1548d ago

And they announced that.....when?

CaptainCook1548d ago (Edited 1548d ago )

@RazzerRedus
Here's the link from the engineers themselves talking about Xcloud at Xbox London Event 2019.

"There's 2 things.. We are going to give you the games you own from the cloud or the games you've purchased in the future, and we will bring Game streaming to Xbox Game Pass so you are Free to discover and play anywhere and everywhere"

https://youtu.be/VTveV4Yfh2...

SpaceRanger1548d ago

Once again, why is Xbox GamePass on this? Your comment only further proves my point.

RazzerRedux1548d ago

@CaptainCook

Thanks. I missed that announcement obviously.

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RazzerRedux1548d ago

Neither is Uplay or Origin. "Journalism"

2pacalypsenow1549d ago (Edited 1549d ago )

The only game streaming services are PS Now, Stadia and GeForce Now.

Xbox Game pass, Uplay plus and Origin aren’t streaming.

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24-year-old faces nearly 9,000 charges for trading game accounts

A 24-year-old inhabitant of Poland has received nearly 9 thousand charges of illegal distribution of games. His idea was to buy digital versions of the games and then resell access to the account to many people. Losses he caused were valued at nearly $260,000. He pleaded guilty to all charges.

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masterfox1553d ago (Edited 1553d ago )

it's over 9000!!! :D, sorry I couldn't resist.

Bleucrunch1551d ago

hahahahaahahahahahaaaaaa. GOOD ONE!!!

Exvalos1551d ago

Omfg lmao!!!!! Never a more perfect time to say that

badz1491551d ago

it's not over 9000 though

Father__Merrin1552d ago

these cretins are all over ebay you search for a game key and something cheap comes up once you click on the post its actually not a game key but rather access to a account. theres no option on ebay to report them

arkard1551d ago (Edited 1551d ago )

Should be, what does not participate in digital sales (unless something changed im unaware of) so a sale like that is against there terms and conditions

I was wrong, they do allow digital items now.
https://www.ebay.com/help/p...

But I checked and there is still a reporting tool on the mobile website at least. You have to scroll pretty far down to get to it though

nucky641551d ago

not sure about that. i used to sell digital codes from blu ray movies i bought. i never used them so it seemed like a waste. i usually put them up for sale for a third of what the entire movie package cost me. the last time i tried to do this (around 2 months ago) i get message that trying to sell digital copies isn't allowed.

nucky641551d ago

so true. i was always curious as to how people were allowed to do that. now i know - they aren't supposed to.

Cyb3r1551d ago

Some websites sell accounts too Im surprised that noting is being done about this

JackBNimble1551d ago

And they're all stolen accounts

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JackBNimble1551d ago

Why are they calling this trading accounts, this is plain and simply stealing.

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The Game Deflators E64 | Nintendo Loses and Exclusive to the PlayStation 4

This week on the Game Deflators #podcast, John and Ryan discuss the loss of Nintendo Exclusives, Pokemon, and TemTem. Also in the gaming world, we can't forget about the Xbox and PlayStation. Microsoft is re-hiring a a marketing exec of the Xbox 360 days and the PlayStation continues to proove why it will be a force to be reckoned with this next console generation.

To round off this episode the duo tilt their Game Boys and play some Pokemon Pinball. This classic game came out in 1999 to relatively good reviews. Does it still hold up for gamers?

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