Opinion: Exclusives Don’t Really Matter Anymore

In the wake of Quantum Break launching across both the Xbox One and PC,one editor has started noticing that exclusivity isn't necessarily essential for companies anymore.

[ninsigma]

I disagree. Exclusives are the differentiators between consoles. The only reason one would buy a Nintendo console is for their exclusives. Ps4 and xb1 are basically the same with an edge to ps4 so it's the exclusives that will determine whether one will go for one or the other. For a console only gamer, the pc stuff doesn't really make a difference and as far as they're concerned a game is exclusive to their console of other consoles can't play it. Xb exclusives moving to pc is a console turn off to those who own a pc for gaming or are already planning on getting one but are looking into consoles as well. As of now, there's only really halo 5, forza and sunset overdrive for xb that's truly exclusive as well as the upcoming gears of war. Looking at that, I could see why a pc gamer might not think it worth it to own the Console. I own the xb1 but I also own a pc and if Microsoft games do turn into Windows exclusives games instead of xbox exclusives then if there's another xbox I won't be buying it. In that sense, I see exclusives as very important if they want the Console to continue because it will impact sales. We already know it's all going to become service based at some point, I just think ms are moving to that space a lot quicker than predicted and that actually we're going to see an xbox service replace xbox consoles sooner rather than later.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Wait a minute...

PS4 has been ridiculed for "not having exclusives" I have to quote it because that's what the people that don't care about the PS4 say when it actuallydoes have exclusives, and I have a handful of them. Now this year is packed with Exclusives, and they don't matter?

[mikeslemonade]

He's saying for "Companies" it doesn't really matter. Well these guys don't have their head wrapped around how gamers think. What many of these casual execs and workers don't see is there will be a decline Xbox system sales. Far more than they thought. It's just gonna snowball into a big problem.

[Griever]

It was just couple of months ago that XBox One had the "best exclusive lineup in history" and PS4 "had no gamez." PS4 exclusive lineup was considered "sparse" and lackluster. Exclusives were everything! Suddenly exclusives do not matter in just two months. So much flip flop it is unbelievable!

If Xbox has exclusives then they are everything, if its doesnt then they dont matter. I think we were hearing the same arguement last gen near the end of teh generation when PS3 had several high quality exclusives releasing and exclusives supposedly didnt matter.

[joeorc]

@mikeslemonade + 5m ago
"He's saying for "Companies" it doesn't really matter. Well these guys don't have their head wrapped around how gamers think. What many of these casual execs and workers don't see is there will be a decline Xbox system sales. Far more than they thought. It's just gonna snowball into a big problem"

The problem is not so much Microsoft also supporting the PC market. Its akin to saying to consumer's

Paul: your my favorite, your my secret squirrel.

Than telling
Saul : your my favorite, your my secret squirrel.

Only in the case of online multiplayer hey Saul on Xbox live you need Gold for Xbox live.. But turn right around and say Paul: your online game play for this very same game is no extra cost, top it off you have mod support Paul for your copy. Increased resolution & frame rate.

Saul starts to wonder am I really Microsoft's Favorite , am I really Microsoft's secret squirrel?

Its of course going to cause freaking problems.

[Mr Pumblechook]

So now Gamerant's favourite console doesn't have true exclusives anymore he's decided that 'exclusives don't matter anymore!' RUBBISH. Don't tell me that exclusives like Halo, Mario Kart and Gran Turismo don't sell consoles because they do!

[Mr Pumblechook]

@joeorc. Do attribute my lack of understanding being due to cultural differences but what on Earth is a 'secret squirel?!'

[pixelsword]

Why is it when the flagship game of a certain company goes mulitplatfoem, all of a sudden exclusives don't matter anymore?

[TFJWM]

The answer to this is simple, If MS said when they announced Xbox 1 that all exclusives would be on their own PC store:

A. Xbox 1 console sales would be higher or the same.
Then exclusives don't matter.

B. Xbox 1 sales were lower.
Then exclusives matter.

You decide: I know where I am leaning on this...

[GordonKnight]

Exclusive have no meaning to me, as I have all three consoles. Also, I have no brand loyalty when it comes to consoles. I think it's ridiculous when gamers hate on great games just because of brand loyalty. If the console has game that you're interested in, then you should check it out. Whether you buy the console or check it out at a friends house. I must say these fanboy wars make great entertainment though. It's like it's more important than the upcoming election for president.

[Ezz2013]

Is my mind playing tricks with me or does last gen when Ps3 was doing amazing in exclusives we got article just like that ?!

[GameNameFame]

Wait wait wait.

Wasnt there like a month Xbox outsold PS4 because of Halo version?

Didnt Xbox fans celebrate how exclusive sell consoles?

We got actual numbers to back it up, but it doesnt stop X1 fans from trying to damage control the whole thing.

MS is surely listening to their fanbase now and how happy they are to see less exclusive. MS will just give them even less.

[Silly Mammo]

The goal post moving has become dizzying.

[Loadedklip]

While people have said that ... PS4 is winning by a mile. Exclusives so far have not played a big role in who is winning.

9 out 10 best selling PS4 games are mutilplatform games.

This gen ... price point, DRM policies, always online policies or lack thereof have been bigger selling points. This is undebeatable.

[Kingthrash360]

Wow.
What's going on over at ms this gen and the last year's of the 360 era?
It's like they don't know what to do anymore.
This will be the last xbox physical console.
Watch.
I don't want that to happen because they are great competition in console gaming...but this is it. Xbox may not recover from this simply because xbox fanboys. ...like super fans, are wondering why they have the console now. Pc will have free xbl same games the run and look better. Exclusives was the one thing xbox gamers could say why it's better than pc...but now pc will have its exclusives. ..playing them free online, able to get them cheaper, and perform and look much, much better.
It's over.
Even the blindest fanboys don't know what to say about this. Once you customers start wondering why they own your console it's a very bad sign.

[generic-user-name]

Damage control, damage control everywhere.

[yomfweeee]

Loaded it may look like exclusives aren't doing much for PS4 because they are steadily releasing them and Playstation fans know what is coming.

I, and may others like me, go with PS because they have always put out a multitude of exclusives.

[miyamoto]

I bought the PS3, PSVita and PS4 because of their exclusives and especially ....

Japanese exclusives that Microsoft could never have.

Soon there will be one home console to rule them all.

[PunisherRevenge]

"Japanese exclusives that Microsoft could never have."

IDK....that could soon change for Microsoft and the Xbox one since they are unifying Both the Xbox store and Windows 10 store. There are more Japanese games going to PC now more than ever. So most of those games will land or Steam and Windows 10 store which will also be on Xbox.

"Soon there will be one home console to rule them all."

You are corrcet abot that but, it may not be the console you think. If Microsoft play their cards right next gen and come out with a console that can do what the Steam machines failed to do and play all Xbox and PC games since the stores will be unified, that will be the console to rule them all.

[3-4-5]

* Certain Specific Exclusives matter, but only so much....as in they aren't the only thing that matters.

* Nintendo has great IP's and those games belong only on Nintendo consoles and because of that, they will always have lasting appeal and sell consoles/handhelds.

* Exclusives on XB1 & PS4 matter but not as much as they would if the consoles were a bit more different.

* They got caught up in letting 3rd party devs dictate how it should be so they can basically create the same game for both consoles = lazy on 3rd party devs fault.

Now we have the PS4 + XB1 which are essentially the same console with very minor differences.

* The industry was better off when we had stuff like Sega Genesis vs SNES = Tons of differences and unique gaming experiences making both awesome to own.

* PS1 vs N64 were completely different and both were awesome and worth owning.

* Dreamcast + PS2 + Gamecube + Original Xbox = All offered something different with unique IP's and interesting and fun ways to play games and all were worth owning.

Since then it's become much to "samey".

* This is why I'd love the Dreamcast 2 to actually become a reality because the difference in games and how it plays would help create interest in differences instead of trying to make everything the same.

* I own a PC,Wii U,XB1,3DS,Vita,PSP&N64 & I play games on all of them and appreciate their differences.

* I don't own a PS4, but I'm glad their are games on the PS4 that I can't play on my Wii U or XB1. That is good for gaming.

It draws more appeal to the PS4 and makes me want one.

If I could play all the PS4 games on my XB1, I would have no interest to ever buy a PS4.

* Since I really want to play Shenmue 3 & Street Fighter 5, Disgaea 5, new Hot Shots golf.....it makes me want that console eventually and creates appeal for it.

How don't some of you see this ?

[pixelsword]

I see what you are saying, but there's only room for three consoles, always have been, always will be.

That being said, the dreamcast would have to gun for the #1 spot , yet be distinct enough to be different from the three various consoles out now. I already thought of a way, well, several ways for something like that to happen, but a company would have to have the drive and commitment for it to come true, and I'm talking about edgy, smart, innovative games that are at least two generations away.

P.S.

There is a slot for another console to rise, Valve saw it and took a stab, but they went about it the wrong way. The dreamcast has a half decent shot IF they follow some old norms and commit to innovation. One console out now will not likely be here for the next gen.

[3-4-5]

N64,Dreamcast,Gamecube,Xbox,&a mp; PS2 all existed at the same time and games were still being played for them.

Adding an extra console gives developers a chance to make something different and unique to that console.

Not saying it's going to sell like PS4, but it could still be profitable and a good outlet for certain developers who want to try something a bit different with a customer/install base that would be more open to something different.

* Valves "effort" and trying to enter the console race was laughable at best. Steam Machines were never going to be a thing because of how limited they are....it was a bad idea from the beginning.

People using Steam already have "steam machines"....they are called PC's.

* There are tons of openings for games that people want but aren't being made because publishers only want to publish certain types of games and developers sometimes can't afford to take a risk.

Too many people playing it safe.

* At this point in the last two generations of gaming I had a ton more games for my consoles than I do for the XB1.

There just isn't a lot out there that appeals to me because it's $60, but doesn't offer $60 worth of variety,fun,content, and originality.

[hells_supernova]

I couldnt agree more. I owned both 360 and ps3 last generation I have a gaming pc and a ps4 now. I will never buy an xbox one now. The only game I want is Forza but I can live without a racing game for now.

[Picnic]

The article should have said 'Total exclusives don't matter anymore on Xbox but console exclusives do matter'.

If someone owns a PC, it would take a lot for them to buy an Xbox for just a few excusives that they like the look of when Xbox has a long history of having PC versions of many of its games.

But you still need games that are only on Xbox/PC. Unless, that is, Xbox can get a magic deal with Nintendo for Nintendo to make a few Xbox only (or Xbox/NX only) games for it,

[DragonDDark]

If they don't matter, then why buy consoles?
I bought my Ps4 because of Exclusives and I also have a PC. Don't see why I should buy an XB1 now..

[SteamPowered]

Were you going to buy an X1 because of QB? Or Halo? Chances are if you haven't bought an X1 yet, then your reasons for doing so would go beyond exclusive content.

[Eonjay]

I had seriously contemplated it. Was waiting for reviews but I had planned on either buying an Xbox One or playing it on my sister's Xbox One. Now, I don't see the need. Thats $350 to get another box or just $60 for the game. I have a PC so the rationale is more about making a responsible decision for me.

Edit: I still might the the Xbox One version though because I can give that to my sister and keep the PC version and come out looking like an awesome brother lol.

[freshslicepizza]

then in your case the exclusives would matter more. however the amount of people who prefer consoles over pc gaming is still very large as seen by software sales for games like battlefront and witcher 3 and fallout 4. all of which can be bought on the pc yet console sales surpass that.

this is why it's about context. i myself prefer pc gaming and am glad to see games like quantum break come my way. the importance is the health of the industry and we have seen many ip's flop. would they have been more successful if they were not exclusive?

as a consumer we should not care as much about exclusivity. only those trying to sell hardware will push this marketing strategy. consumers who seem to do it most are coincidentally the same ones who are involved with the console wars and enjoy division among gamers. they think it is what makes the system unique without really considering the fact that if the game was also on the pc the gameplay and experience does not change on the console.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Then the 3 companies should just merge and become one console. We as consumers like to dream a lot about a exclusive less world and only think about ourselves. Nothing of that will happen in Business.

That's right, gaming is also a business and like any bussines out there, these companies need their exclusive content to push their products. If it wasn't for PS exclusives, I wouldn't be a fan of Playstation or Sony all these years.

We as a consumer should really know what we are getting into-- what product we should choose. Gamers have been divided since forever. Console war isn't anything new. This time is just seems like it has become much worse, but that's the Internet. I see none of this BS outside, and I have xbox and nintendo friends too.

So companies suddenly not caring for exclusive and move everything to PC will just cause the true death of gaming consoles. The day Sony starts deploying exclusives to PC, then bye bye. Because why bother with it anymore.

[joeorc]

@moldybread

"only those trying to sell hardware will push this marketing strategy. consumers who seem to do it most are coincidentally the same ones who are involved with the console wars and enjoy division among gamers"

So Microsoft is not trying to sell hardware now..IE: the Xbox one?

So what you are saying In a very snide comment point of way to imply ,Sony Is only trying to sell a console to put division among gamers , while Microsoft is selling an Eco system..to bring gamers together...

of all the over the top arrogant posts to try to imply or frame the argument , that only Microsoft is open to bringing gamers together..oh' my

Under one Operating system. windows OS. Yeah if Microsoft was all about unifying gamers why not make the Windows OS & graphics Api DirectX freaking open source? Huh? If they really was not about Division!

All company's are about their own product. Or Eco system to say or imply otherwise is foolishness.

That was so much face palm worthy statement by you it could not be covered up by 50 or a hundred hands.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

@joseorc

So I'm not the only one who has been scratching his head over those comments making Sony the evil one for pushing hardware sales with their exclusives, while MS suddenly is the good one for sharing their exclusives with PC because of some "bring gamers together" BS...

[freshslicepizza]

@XiKurapikaKurta
"Then the 3 companies should just merge and become one console."

why would they. that's like asking apple to merge with android even though both share the same apps and games.

"That's right, gaming is also a business and like any bussines out there, these companies need their exclusive content to push their products."

and they are. is quantum break coming to the ps4?

"We as a consumer should really know what we are getting into-- what product we should choose. Gamers have been divided since forever."

and we will continue to be divided as long as hardware makers also make software.

"So companies suddenly not caring for exclusive and move everything to PC will just cause the true death of gaming consoles. The day Sony starts deploying exclusives to PC, then bye bye. Because why bother with it anymore."

why bother with what, enjoying games? what you said doesn't make a lot of sense. the people employed by sony who make those fantastic games will continue to make games. the ps4 will not die if games like uncharted 4 came to the pc platform. the ps4 is $350 and mainstream gamers like that entry fee as opposed to what it would cost to get a pc, plus those who don't want to get into pc gaming have other reasons besides the costs. the ps4 offers a closed network for instance with all your friends and trophies. it also works better for a plug and play experience.

sony is also less likely to do what microsoft is doing mainly because sony does not have a vested interest in selling operating systems for the pc. that's why sony would rather port vita games to the ps4. and also why sony is redoing ps3 games on the ps4. they want to expand those ip's just like how microsoft is with windows and xbox.

[freshslicepizza]

@joeorc
"So Microsoft is not trying to sell hardware now..IE: the Xbox one?"

of course they are, did i say otherwise?

"So what you are saying In a very snide comment point of way to imply ,Sony Is only trying to sell a console to put division among gamers , while Microsoft is selling an Eco system..to bring gamers together..."

my snide comment was about consumers who seem to care about division. why as a consumer do you care if ps4 games all of the sudden went to the pc? for sony is makes sense to keep ps4 games exclusive since they don't benefit as much as microsoft by promoting windows 10 games.

"of all the over the top arrogant posts to try to imply or frame the argument , that only Microsoft is open to bringing gamers together..oh' my"

your reading skills need work since the context of what i said was lost on you. you are merging my comments from a companies point of view with what i said about consumers points of views.

"Under one Operating system. windows OS. Yeah if Microsoft was all about unifying gamers why not make the Windows OS & graphics Api DirectX freaking open source? Huh? If they really was not about Division!"

i don't get your point. microsoft is a company whose interest is also to make money, just like sony and nintendo. of course they still want division by excluding games like quantum break from coming to the ps4, it's main competitor. once again your reading skills need improving.

"All company's are about their own product. Or Eco system to say or imply otherwise is foolishness."

show me where i disagree.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Why bother paying $60 for PS+ and having a PS4 when I could be playing all of that on PC? My reason for having a PS4 will be no more. It's not the enjoyment of games my problen if that was the case. It's the reason to have a PS4 at all

[freshslicepizza]

@XiKurapikaKurta
"Why bother paying $60 for PS+ and having a PS4 when I could be playing all of that on PC? My reason for having a PS4 will be no more. It's not the enjoyment of games my problen if that was the case. It's the reason to have a PS4 at all"

if the only reason to own a ps4 is to play games not on the pc then that to me suggests the ps4 is not a great product to you. however to the 35+ million owners out there who continue to buy games like star wars battelfield and fallout 4 there are more reasons to own a ps4 and not game on the pc. perhaps one day you will figure why.

you also have to remember one size does not fit all. your reasons for buying a ps4 will differ from others. nintendo are the ones who seem to be the most active in creating games around their hardware which makes the experience somewhat unique. that is why i suggested long ago the wii u and pc is probably the best combo. to me the xbox one and ps4 were always just average pc's because they really don't offer anything different that can't be done on a pc. so yes, if one does have a decent pc and a ps4 then of course the xbox one just got even less need for them. but i imagine the percentage of ps4 and wii u owners who have capable pc's to play games like quantum break are very few. yet for some reason this is now huge news on the forums and impacts so many.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I'm sure moldy where you the one not several months ago that was making it sound like such a reality was impossible? Now suddenly Microsoft doing this means they're trying to unite everyone? Yet you're not factoring this is for Windows 10 OS as its not for 7 it's not for Linux it's not for Mac it's only for windows 10 so I have no clue why you're trying to make it sound like Microsoft is doing someone a solid.

Microsoft is looking out for their best interest on the windows 10 platform there correct to make titles only for Windows 10 an Xbox one if they own both platforms this should support both platforms.

This is again no different than Sony support of their hand held in Nintendo's support of their handheld they have other devices that they own that they for fact released content on the the concept of Microsoft doing the same isn't out of the ordinary in shouldn't even be seen as something brand new or strange.

No one is trying to divide gamers with the exception of gamers as many on here or even the ones that kept making it sound like they knew of Microsoft agenda to only have the specific number of exclusives release on PC I've literally heard some folks on this site state quantum break is on PC but the next halo won't be for the next gears won't be in it's funny because everytime another game gets announced that list gets even shorter how about stop speaking for these companies in really listen to what they're saying no one is dividing the community with the exception of the community.

Microsoft is no more trying to to unite and install base any more than Sony is when they have a handheld or Nintendo they are merely looking to make more money on software on platforms they own.

Microsoft is just a bit late to this as they should of established from then on out all their titles will release on PC and can no longer be this question mark. It has to be fully understood its either coming to both or 1, it can't be this foot half way in and half way out.

As consumers are starting to feel like they're being deceived into purchasing something under false pretenses its best for them to just go multi platform and support both and stop wasting their time with trying to give people this illusion that Xbox one is like PlayStation 4 Sony does not have an OS just those titles will likely stay on PlayStation 4 until PlayStation 5 releases if they even get ported to PS5 or if it even gets support backwards.

Microsoft have no reason to play this stupid "me too" game they need to support the platforms they own as opposed to trying to mimic a company that has literally no reason to be creating games on PC as again they don't own an OS they have no ode to sell the software.

[freshslicepizza]

@_-EDMIX-_
"I'm sure moldy where you the one not several months ago that was making it sound like such a reality was impossible? Now suddenly Microsoft doing this means they're trying to unite everyone?"

they are not trying to unite everyone, they are bridging xbox one and windows and what are you talking about months ago? i said before they would do this when i first heard about fable legends. in fact i was arguing with someone else who said microsoft won't do as they promised which was support the pc and i said they would.

"Yet you're not factoring this is for Windows 10 OS as its not for 7 it's not for Linux it's not for Mac it's only for windows 10 so I have no clue why you're trying to make it sound like Microsoft is doing someone a solid."

why would they push windows 7 when the xbox has been designed for windows 10? have you been asleep during all the talks about dx12?

"This is again no different than Sony support of their hand held in Nintendo's support of their handheld they have other devices that they own that they for fact released content on the the concept of Microsoft doing the same isn't out of the ordinary in shouldn't even be seen as something brand new or strange."

where did i argue otherwise?

"No one is trying to divide gamers with the exception of gamers as many on here or even the ones that kept making it sound like they knew of Microsoft agenda to only have the specific number of exclusives release on PC ..."

which is also what i said, some gamers seem to think division is good and will actually argue against ps4 games from coming to the pc because it would somehow take away from what makes the system unique.

"Microsoft is no more trying to to unite and install base any more than Sony is when they have a handheld or Nintendo they are merely looking to make more money on software on platforms they own."

i already said the same thing.

"Microsoft is just a bit late to this as they should of established from then on out all their titles will release on PC and can no longer be this question mark. It has to be fully understood its either coming to both or 1, it can't be this foot half way in and half way out."

why is it too late? it's never too late.

"As consumers are starting to feel like they're being deceived into purchasing something under false pretenses its best for them to just go multi platform and support both and stop wasting their time with trying to give people this illusion that Xbox one is like PlayStation 4 Sony does not have an OS just those titles will likely stay on PlayStation 4 until PlayStation 5 releases if they even get ported to PS5 or if it even gets support backwards."

these games are still console exclusive, they are not coming to the ps4. why would someone buy a system under the pretense of games not yet out? it's better to announce this before quantum break comes out, don't you think?

"Microsoft have no reason to play this stupid "me too" game they need to support the platforms they own as opposed to trying to mimic a company that has literally no reason to be creating games on PC as again they don't own an OS they have no ode to sell the software."

if you publish the game then you make money if that game sells. activision makes lots of money and they don't own the os and they sell pc games. same with ubisoft and ea. sony also invested in street fighter so why are they releasing it on the pc?

[johndoe11211]

Congrats, you just made THE single most ridiculous, senseless and illogical damage controlling statement of the day.

[DigitalRaptor]

I've never seen anything like this.

Spouting the benefits that it potentially offers Xbox gamers, claiming you prefer PC gaming whilst ignoring the fact that what MS is doing here proves they've learned nothing from the Games for Windows Live debacle, and that PC gamers are going to be having nothing to do with these stupid limitations and restrictions, because it's doing nothing to benefit them other than the game simply being playable on a W10 machine - the bare minimum of a PC gamer's expectations (in fact no WORSE than their minimum expectations): http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

All in the name of moldybread damage controlling this situation of Xbox becoming a multiplatform box. It seems that as much as you want to pin down my agenda, your agenda is to make this seem less unfortunate for the Xbox brand of consoles, by promoting the notion to kill what has always made consoles individually different - exclusives.

[freshslicepizza]

@DigitalRaptor
"by promoting the notion to kill what has always made consoles individually different - exclusives."

this coming from a member who has done nothing by try and suggest this is a bad move by making exclusives like quantum break into consoles exclusives and will impact xb1 sales while he previously tells people he will buy games like the new hitman on the ps4 and not the pc.

sorry but console gamers are not all of the sudden going to turn into pc gamers, proven already by you. and let's say they do make that shift, guess what? it will also impact the ps4. you know, the direct competitor to the xbox one whose main software sales stem from games available on the pc.

[kparks]

Reads title and thinks.... Hmm neither does opinions!

[Picnic]

If you've got a PC, then you'll have had few reasons to EVER buy an Xbox. So what's changed? And you should be happy it's now going to be on PC at the same time instead of implying that Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot with you.

[DragonDDark]

Can't argue with that

[iplay1up2]

PS4/Wii U, for exclusives for me this gen. Soon NX!

If it were not for exclusives I would only have PS4/but no way I am missing Nintendos exclusives! Xenoblade X alone is worth having a Wii U for!

[DigitalRaptor]

HAHAHAHHAHHA. I know right?

The apologists on here are so ridiculous. We've spent an entire generation discussing the benefits and praising exclusive games and how they matter towards indicating the quality of a console's output, how memorable they are, what is of their legacy and who has the best, how these consoles rate....... just days after the Quantum Breakdown, it doesn't matter?

These people are a disgrace. Pure and utter disgrace. Let's promote mulitplatform boxes, shall we? And what would be the point of these several IDENTICAL boxes again with exactly the same games? Consoles have always had exclusives that define them and we discuss it a lot. But now Xbox is under fire for having minimal exclusive content and it's being damage controlled, and swept under the rug and Sony and Nintendo are being informed that they must do the same thing because it's a good thing?

Hang on, I'm off to laugh my ass off again.

[joeorc]

Gamer media and many gamers reaction to sony & the PSVita support .

Gamers media & on gamer forums

Sony : screw you for not supporting Playstation Vita, it's just a multiplatform handheld game system or a PS4 add on device now ,it failed in the market.

Gamer: port those playstation Vita exclusives to the ps3 or PS4 that is the place I really want to play them anyway.

Gamer: the PlayStation Vita has no Games and Sony is not suppirting the platform.

Now fast forward..

We have the best exclusive games for Xbox one this year and another exclusive on the way.

Gamer: what do you mean its now releasing on PC, I thought it was exclusive to only Xbox.

Now some Gamers are saying today, well its still exclusive to window's OS and thus Xbox one..and that is still a good thing.

But yet all we heard was in the case of Sony PSVita had no exclusives...

Just a glaring observation

[freshslicepizza]

@joeorc

your analogy doesn't hold much water, here's why. handheld devices like vita are under fire due to the incredible dominance of cellphones which are also capable of playing games. you think people game on the cellphone because they are exclusive? so sony has had to adapt and not let those ip's like tearaway go to waste and port them to the ps4. a game console which is not withering away like handheld gaming devices are.

so to somehow link that train of thought that now we see games migrating to the pc that were once full exclusive to the console are to become pc gamers is a real stretch.

instead of showing us that multiplat games on handhelds like the vita are getting crushed in software sales by their console counterparts you want to try and fool us that this is going to magically occur on the pc?

wow. just wow. people will use whatever angle they have to make sure the xbox has no relevance even if it means a ripple effect that will hurt ps4 software sales.

guess what, most software sales on the ps4 occur from games like fallout 4 and star wars. the same games available on the pc. the console market is healthy so by comparing what occurred on the vita and it will happen to the xbox one is just plain hilarious.

[SteamPowered]

Why don't people defend games instead of consoles? I love Mass Effect 3 more than the 360 and I'm glad everyone from PC to PS3 got to enjoy it. I say the more platforms the better. Better chances of sequels, better chances of a bigger budget, all go up when the user base is high. Developers make the games we play. Those are the things that entertain me. Not whatever sticker is slapped on the console. I'll back the Devs every time. Consoles come and go.

[ninsigma]

Yep, the more who play the better. This whole situation is basically good for gamers, good for MS but bad for xbox the physical machine. That's my way of thinking about it. I for one am absolutely delighted quantum break is coming to PC but it does mean my XB won't be turned on anytime soon.

[_-EDMIX-_]

That's a situation honestly that is very dependent in varies so much.

Of course in a perfect reality one would want games on all platforms but developers all don't have that type of funding to be able to make it games across all platforms.

You also run into the situation with unique hardware what if a developer is making a concept that doesn't work on a platform because it either doesn't have the amount of RAM or doesn't have a certain format or doesn't have something that allows the game's concept to be what they're creating so I went and overall say that it's the best thing.

Some games in order for them to have been created must utilize a platforms strengths sometimes that happens in a my personal opinion it's best to seek the best possible game they could create VS limiting the game to fit a base amount of hardware.

That's like if I told you you had a game which was like real life and it had all these different consequences and all these different unique features but could only be done on a certain platform for whatever reason I'm pretty sure you would want to play that concept even if it was on a single platform Vs never have the concept exist to be limited to be across multiple.

I fully understand what you're saying but it seems like it's a very pie in the sky understanding the your fair to one such a thing one must be realistic as that's just unlikely in only the very top developers could make games across all platforms even the very top like EA, Ubisoft couldn't even afford to make games on platforms like Wii U in which the margin was too small and it cost way too much money to develop on such difficult hardware.

Maybe in a perfect world.

I don't even disagree with your notion as it comes from a good place merely I'm just being a realist and really factoring real-world consequences to such a thing.

[djplonker]

@steam

It's like saying burger king should sell big macs so more people can enjoy them...

Which of course is utterly stupid and ridiculous.

[SteamPowered]

Comparing one burger to another that takes 2 seconds to make compared to developing games which takes years, money, and usually a team of people, is stupid. A burger is a burger is a burger.

Your analogy couldn't be farther from what I was talking about.

But that's ok. You kids kick and claw at each other arguing about which console is better, meanwhile these companies are making money anyways. Any controversy fanboys dream up only makes them more money.
Nobody flipped their lid when Street Fighter 5 announced it is coming to PC. So why is QB different? Hint, it's not! Only fanboys are making s big deal about it.

So I guess I'll keep playing games instead of worrying about whose "side" those games will be on. Lord knows you can't just enjoy the game anymore. It absolutely has to be a product of whatever console manufacturer you have feelings for.

[djplonker]

Just to clarify I have an xbox one ps4 and a pc I didn't buy all 3 just for the fun of it only the exclusives otherwise it would have been ps4/pc only.

[SteamPowered]

Lately the exclusives aren't enough for me to promote any one console. My gaming tastes usually are of the multiplatform variety. Skyrim, Wolfenstein, Mass Effect, even Divinity are my faves. So when a game goes multiplatform, it only makes sense to me. None of those games could have made as much capital on one console as all consoles.
The only people who benefit from exclusives is the Console developer. Is it really hurting you, personally if someone on PC plays Bloodborne? Or does it hurt Playstation because they don't sell another Playstation?

[djplonker]

I get what you are saying but it is our western capital ways and you are suggesting a sort of gaming communism where everyone is equal but it would never work.

As much as I would like to have avoided buying most of my favourite 360 games againon ps3 when I switched last gen (mass effect/dragon age/dark souls etc I knew I had to if I wanted them onmy platform of choice.

[iliimaster]

they are the reason to buy a console i got my ps4 3 years ago for 3 reasons, for uncharted 4, god of war 4 and ps+ downloadable games in the time between these games...... fast forward to now... and im pissed none of these reasons came to light so i got a xboxone and havnt turned on my ps4 for almost a year now

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

You bought a PS4 3 years ago when Uncharted4 didn't even have a release date, god of War 4 probably didn't start development, and PS+ games you didn't even know it they were gonna be free?

Either you bought a PS4 for nothing but decoration and didn't buy any other 3rd party games, or this story is pure BS

[iliimaster]

dude no way did i think uncharted 4 would be that delayed and god of war 4 i figured they would have that game out within 2-3 years and the ps+ games? i thought they would be games not pure indys ? come on these reasons are true any reasonable gamer would think playstation would put out their biggest games within 3 years of console release

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

PS4 isn't even 3 years old yet

[_-EDMIX-_]

Lol Zik I can't lmfao!

That man straight-up predicted the future and was like nope!

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Uncharted only got delayed by a few months, and there hasn't even been any official announcement of God of War. All that made up anxiety is on you.

[buttcheeks]

Really you bought it for uncharted which was scheduled to arrive in 2015 god of war which just released a game in 2013 the same year the ps 4 launched so another entry was years off and PS plus games that unless they gave out brand new triple a games it would be at least a year before triple a games would be added........ Hmmmm something seems strange about that my brotha

[jb227]

The difference is all of those games are around the corner, UC4 is 2 months away, GoW4's announcement is imminent along w/ a slew of other games coming...but they will literally never hit the XB1. Sounds like sheer impatience to me, and as a result you are going to miss out on some of the best games of this gen.

[nitus10]

@XiKurapikaKurta

I was going to state that the PS4 and even the XB1 are not three years old although you could say they are in their third year.

What's with the disagrees to your statements, can't some people count.

For those that disagree the release date of the PS4 was November 15, 2013 in North America, then November 29, 2013 in Europe, South America and Australia. This is basically two years and a little over two months.

[corroios]

Lol. Sales doesnt matter, rez doesnt matter and now exclusives dont matter? This gen some cant handle the truth. Next time build a Gaming machine with at least average specs and dont spend billions on crappy kinect.

Exclusives is the biggest selling point and when they arent flops they sell millions of consoles

[DigitalRaptor]

I know...

I've never seen anything like the levels of pathetic damage control this generation.

It's inconceivable, but it's disturbingly real.

[joeorc]

So ask this very Question would it be good for Sony's Exclusives.to start to appear on PC? How about Xbox platform exclusives on Playstation 4 or on Nintendo's.

Despite the term its all about "accessibility" its not, its about if you are trying to support an Eco system your company .makes while at the same time , not bolster the other companies Eco system that your in direct competition with.

You cannot have it both ways saying exclusives do not matter as much, because that's not the truth. If that was a the case everyone would be driving the same car, the house would be the same exclusive content separates one product from another. That's why there is patent's. Or design choice's.

And not a xerox copy of anything and everything

[jb227]

Definitely agree. I loved the Uncharted series enough last gen that I knew I'd have to grab whatever box it appeared on. Granted, if it went multiplat I'd still want to play it on PS4 but the bottom line at least in my instance that particular exclusive (along w/ a slew of others) pushed me to grab a PS4 w/ the quickness. I don't love the games because they are exclusive, I love the games because they are great games that benefit from being exclusive by being catered to one specific box & ecosystem.

Like you said, brands need identities and the only way you create one is by creating your own exclusive content. Sony's identity in my eyes is a focus towards variety & diversity in their games w/ great sp campaigns typically being more favored than any other publisher or dev, which makes it right up my alley.

[nitus10]

For Sony to bring out their exclusives that were on the PlayStation for the PC running Microsoft Windows would be effectively supporting Microsoft.

What I would like to see them do is bring out their exclusives to SteamOS and Linux only since Linux users do number in the tens of millions, although I do think that would be a cold day in Hell if that happened.

[Picnic]

It would harm Sony and Nintendo a lot more to release their games on PC because their games are often not like most PC games therefore PC owners have ALWAYS had a reason to buy Sony and Nintendo consoles to complement their gaming diet.

People with PCs have NEVER had really strong reasons to buy an Xbox and it would be artificial , and possibly harm Microsoft's profit, to try to change that.

[darren_poolies]

But exclusives are pretty much the only differentiator between consoles...If they didn't exist then what would be the point in having more than one console on the market?

[joeorc]

@darren_poolies + 2m ago
"But exclusives are pretty much the only differentiator between consoles...If they didn't exist then what would be the point in having more than one console on the market"

That's the point ,look at the PC market the hardware is slot loadable, socket plug in for component's, than if you want Game's to play pretty much the only real choice you have had in a long time was the OS for gaming on PC was just Windows OS only. So if exclusive games do not matter why is Linux or other OS's in the PC not get very many for the longest time! How about Microsoft release its PC platform OS and make it open source and its DirectX Api open to Linux free?

You d@mn right Exclusives matter.
Funny and ironic this generation this is now a talking point over console's. Now when all last generation and early this generation PS4 or really "playstation has no games"

[Nivekki]

'That's the point ,look at the PC market the hardware is slot loadable, socket plug in for component's, than if you want Game's to play pretty much the only real choice you have had in a long time was the OS for gaming on PC was just Windows OS only. So if exclusive games do not matter why is Linux or other OS's in the PC not get very many for the longest time! How about Microsoft release its PC platform OS and make it open source and its DirectX Api open to Linux free? '

What has that got to do with what he's talking about?

[nitus10]

"So if exclusive games do not matter why is Linux or other OS's in the PC not get very many for the longest time! How about Microsoft release its PC platform OS and make it open source and its DirectX Api open to Linux free?"

Hmm! how to answer this.

Desktop Linux users do actually number in the tens of millions world wide and I am not counting Android users who's numbers are over a billion.

Go into any retailer of PC's and what do nearly all PC's have as their operating system. Yes you guessed it "Microsoft Windows". Linux cannot compete when you basically have what is known as the "Microsoft Tax".

Why don't people install a Linux distribution after purchasing their PC? Only a very few people do this or even know how even though it is stupidly easy and out of those people who would install Linux many would opt for what is called a "dual boot" which is basically pointless since many just get sick of the switching and just go with Microsoft Windows especially if they are a gamer. Yes there is virtualisation but again many users take the easy path and just stick to what they know.

Microsoft making their money making products open source? Well anything is possible however I do think I will get my flying car before that happens.

Linux does have some things that Microsoft would love to have. Basically all supercomputers are Linux based. Linux still dominates in the server room. Embedded systems normally use a Linux OS and lastly as I have mentioned before Android (Linux kernel) is over 83% of the smart phone market with over billion users.

[Double_O_Revan]

It was because of exclusives that I switched from 360 to PS3. It made a big difference to me.

[Plasmids]

More exclusives please, it's what separates the consoles from each other and makes each of them worth owning.

I sold my wii u and my Xbox one but I'm seriously thinking about picking up another Xbox one for Quantum Break and Gears.

And bring on Uncharted 4 please I can't wait any longer.

[Butters360]

PS4 sales and awards tell a different story.

[Toiletsteak]

I think they do. When buying a new console i always think about what exclusives are coming out for said console first and if they are the ones i want.

[StockpileTom]

It matters...

With this arbitrary pay to play scheme they have going on for network play exclusives are the only reason why I don't go PC only.

[nitus10]

Actually "Pay to Win" is IMHO more insidious although micro-transactions are close. Unfortunately this is a trend that seems to be accelerating and the main fault lies with the people who support this.

[StockpileTom]

Pay to Win sucks pretty hard. I always have to thoroughly research every PC game I'm interested in to make sure that it doesn't go in that direction.

I'm okay with paying for aesthetics and extra content. (that extra content should be significantly large and not an annoying collection of separate micro-transactions)

[KwietStorm_BLM]

lol how convenient

[Brettman2008]

Console exclusives are important. If they are also on PC is meaningless.

[Eonjay]

Multiplats dominate the industry in both units sold and revenue. But games are games. And if you are a platform holder, you want exclusives as something to make your platform stand out. When Uncharted launches, all eyes will be on PS4.

[Coachkeys]

Exclusives always matter. I didn't purchase all these freaking consoles for no reason lol.

[higgins78]

I could not disagree more. Keep your 3rd party fodder.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Precisely.
Multiplats are important, but not as important as exclusives.
It's only the irrational loyalist suck-ups that only care about third party, who disagree with that.

[nitus10]

Actually on both my PS3 and PS4 I have more multi platform games than I have exclusive games. I predominately play RPG's and Action/Adventure and have little if any interest in on-line only games so even if I get a multiplatform game I know I am going to get (depends on game though) good value for money.

[Artemidorus]

Exclusives can make a console iconic. What's the point of a Playstation and Xbox if all they will do is provide exactly the same thing.

[linkenski]

Personally, I've developed a lot of bitterness over exclusives and business practices in general since the internet age and admittedly from growing up as well. I just don't think an exclusive has the same impact when everything is being shown on the internet as opposed to walking in a store and finding a cover saying "Only for Xbox", because, due to a lack of internet and social media or media-prominence in general back 10 years ago most consumers were left in the dark about the business side and didn't think too much about it.

And more and more, I've realized how similar consoles are to PCs, and really, there's nothing exclusively Playstation over Uncharted aside from the fact that it's arbitrarily only been made for that console.

[Dan_scruggs]

Someone needs to tell Nintnedo. And everyone looking forward to Uncharted 4.

[spoonard]

Since Nintendo's lifeblood is exclusives, i'd say they DO matter to some.

[Izalith]

True exclusives that you can't find anywhere else. The console you stand in line before opening time getting an PS4/Wii U/X1, those titles that define the console, not titles that are launching on PC, like all X1 titles do in most times.

In case you don't know:

Wii U have 14 true exclusives, I own 12 of them. (what I mean by true is that they can't be found on the competitors consoles or on a PC)
Playstation 4 has 7 true exclusives (soon 8)
Xbox One has 4 true exclusives

Wii U has been on the market the most, but the most tragic is the X1 true exclusives titles are just Sunset Overdrive, Halo 5, Forza 5, Forza 6, yeyy only one new IP. PS4 has most new IP's of those true exclusives on Playstation 4, beats both Wii U and Xbox One.

[kenwonobi]

Hold on a minute. PS4 has exclusives now. Lol. Now they don't matter? Lol. The pain is coming. Just a few short months ago "Xbox greatest lineup ever" exclusives are everything mayhem begun. Now it's all over if Sony is cranking them out? Lol!!!!! Don't worry. It's almost all over. The silent humane snap will be quick and painless.

[Segata]

Wii U attach rate disproves this BS article. If you want to bring up Wii U sales well then Wii which sole 100 million systems MK Wii sold 36 million. I bought a Wii U to play Bayo2 and XCX and 30 games later still love it. PS4 well SFV matters and Gravity Rush 2 to me.

[nitus10]

Yes the Wii did sell over 100 million but most third party developers abandoned it. It must also be remembered that the Wii was standard definition only when the other two consoles supported Full (ie. up to 1080p) High Definition.

[Segata]

HD has nothing to do with anything. Also 3rd parties did not leave Wii. It was ripe full of them. Just a lot of niche stuff like Fragile Dreams or Madworld,No More Heroes,Capcom Vs Tasunoko etc
It had tons of exclusives best selling game that gen and those kind of exclusives kept on coming.

[NovaCorps]

if no more exclusives then no more reason to buy a console

[WelkinCole]

The spin is real.

[VTKC]

Yeah "they dont matter anymore" thats why bayonetta 2 was taken by nintendo, thats why tomb raider was taken by xbox, and thats why Street fighter was taken by sony.

[sdplisken]

Exclusives matter end of story.
Exclusives push hardware and drive competition which is good for us gamers.

Ms putting their games on pc tells me they have no faith in their own xbox brand

[DivineAssault]

for a company that started its gaming division in the mid 90s, PS shouldve had a mascot by now.. Ratchet n Clank? Sly? Idk but they started w Crash bandicoot then it fell through.. Its not needed but they should have one

[nitus10]

Because the PlayStation has a much more varied selection of games than the other contenders it would be very difficult to actually have a mascot although the closest I would say is Nathan Drake (has to be first party exclusive content not multi-platform) but is this a good thing?

As an example Nintendo's mascot is Mario however if you don't really like or don't care about Mario games then that mascot is useless and in some respects off-putting.

[DivineAssault]

Mario & zelda were on the phillips cdi console.. I dont recall sly or ratchet n clank on anything else.. twisted metal & many more for that matter.. However, sony didnt have any arcade games i can recall

[WelkinCole]

I like it that Sony does not have a mascot.

Apart from not pigeon holing them. Think (Mario = Kids console), (Halo = Shooter console)

It allows the PS to be fresh and evolve with the times.

Sony has some of the best IP's in the industry but they do not rest on them. Every gen they always bring out new stuff more so than both current competitors combine. Last gen alone saw LBP, Folklore, Warhawk, Resistance, HS, MAG, Infamous, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, TLOU etc etc. This gen alone sofar we have seen The Order, Drive Club, Bloodbourne from just 3 1st party sofar with many more new IP's coming.

They always do not relied heavily on their existing IP's compare to competition. Think about LOD, Syphon fliter, Jak, SOCOM, Colony Wars and soon even Uncharted.

The only IP that I can think of that has survived is GT but even then GT is a racing game which can't be stale.

All of this is great for PS gamers and great for the industry. It keeps things fresh.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

They don't especially if the exclusives aren't the top selling on any particular system.

If a system can be sold off exclusives alone then it matters.
But if the exclusives are being overshadowed by multiplats and are the main driving force of the hardware sales then it doesn't matter because one. Not many people are buying it for the exclusives and two no one cares or talk about it.

Dragon Quest Heroes? Still hasn't sold 1 million in the west?

[DivineAssault]

Exclusives keep customers happy.. People like other genres besides CoD & the Maddens out there.. 3rd party games are the treats in between entrees

[WelkinCole]

lol!. The prominence of 3rd party multiplats is the reason why exclusives are now more important than ever to boost console sales.

Ever wonder why 3rd parties keep track of console sales?.

Every wonder why they are happy when console makers price their consoles at a lower price or when console makers cut the price of their consoles?.

It is critical to them for their business that there are as many consoles sold as possible. You can bet your ass any game that can sell more consoles is very important to them regardless of weather it is theirs, the console maker or even their competition because in the end it will mean more potential customers for them to sell their games

With MS more or less giving up the fight with the PS4 for the console space. This will in turn increase the PS4 market share and why 3rd party will support the PS4 more going forward.

Imagine PS4 getting 75-80% of the market like the PS2. 3rd party will see less reason to invest in other consoles game dev and just focus on the PS4 like was the case back in the PS2 era.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Even so. PS2 software attachment rate wasn't that good. Majority of the exclusives sold only 1-3m on a install base of 156m.

Because of that many franchises that were once exclusive went multiplat.

Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, Devil May Cry to name a few.

This is also the reason why there are PS4, PS3 and PS Vita version of these exclusive PS games. Japanese Publishers are taking risk. So they release them on all or two PlayStation system.

Yes PS4 will continue to get more but what matters is will it be enough to keep them exclusives and not go multiplat again.

[FN4GM]

This article is some more damage control BS, exclusives absolutely matter, and had this decision not been made by Microsoft and Quantum Break stayed an xbone only exclusive we'd hear nothing but how you need to own an xbone because of its exclusives like QB, probably from the very same person who made this article. Of course now exclusives dont matter anymore, how convenient.

[cyber_daemonx]

Here we go again. Now MS decide to release xbone 'exclusives' on PC, they don't matter any more.

Sigh, the spin doctors are out in full force this week.

Damage control pure n simple.

What a complete joke of an article.

[Picnic]

A lot of people's on here don't seem to realise that the best business model for Microsoft is not the same as the best for Sony and Nintendo.
Microsoft just reduced a whole lot of frustration for PC owners who understandably don't see the logic in spending a few hundred to plonk a big chunk of plastic in their room just to play a game now instead of the usual 6-12 months time.

This is pure Phil Spencer and it's brilliant that it's now going to be possible to play the very best possible looking version of Quantum Break on day 1.
The Xbox is like the entry level to mid range PC.
I hope that they make their next Xbox to be non-fixed, thus taking over the PC building market, making it easy (at a price) to get the best and making Xbox and PC inseparable.

[Night99]

Yes exclusive are indeed not the determinant factor if a console becomes a success or not. Especially for Playstation, almost no one buys a Playstation for Sony Games, people always baught Playstations because of Multigames Fifa, GTA, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Call of Duty or Destiny this are the reasons why poeple buy Sony consoles.

A few weeks ago I read and article of one of the top Analysts about the fact that Sony exklusives always sell relatively poor on Sony Hardware and the important factor of multigames for Playstation.

[TheGreyest]

It's not that they don't matter, it's just that they're not the main driving force of console sales like people hype them up to be. If you must get a system for exclusives, you may have to get more than one, and you may want to get one that's well rounded with both first and third party games.

[Abnor_Mal]

Seems exclusives dont matter anymore once Xbox games are now appearing on PC. A few months ago they mattered to every platform, they mattered to Playstation and its fans, to Xbox and its fans and PC and its fans. PC fans were bragging a few weeks ago how they have exclusives that have never appeared on consoles. Now they dont matter. Seems to me that PC gamers want all console exclusives just so they can say that they have the better version of a game made by a console manufacturer. It was already stated right in this comment section that PC will have the better version of Quantum Break and Xbox will have the ugly duck version. Console exclusives should stay console exclusives, PC exclusives should stay PC exclusives. PC gamers just want all games so they can thump their chest and say "see PC is better, look how much better everyting is on PC."

[Picnic]

Abnor Mal, all you want to do is thump your chest and say "see Xbox One has a game that you don't and, because it hasn't sold enough copies , there'll be no sequel - but at least it's Xbox's no sequel'.

[SynestheticRoar]

First it's sales, now it's exclusives. WTF is next. I got it, been number 1 doesn't matter. Being in last place is great. Everyone loves last place.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I think exclusives matter but I don't think number of consoles sold matter as much anymore.

[Fist4achin]

I just love playing games. Funny thing is, I prefer the Xbox comtroller, but I prefer sony as a company. They both have great and strong exclusives that I very much enjoy. This generation though, I will not be picking up every console. It would cost too much and I still have a huge backlog to work through from the last.

[Godmars290]

Between the QB announcement and what happened with Tomb Raider as "an Exclusive" they don't matter on the X1 because MS has shown that they can't manage exclusives. During the 360 era they lead the charge on saying exclusivity didn't matter in regards to 3rd party while also doing things like putting Gears and Halo on PC only to reverse themselves as they saw the PS3 closing the gap. Then with the X1 they restated a commitment towards exclusivity only to reverse themselves yet again.

This is just them making such worthless for them while Nintendo and Sony use the likes of Smash Brothers and Uncharted as reason to buy their consoles.

[Maywell]

This opinion is really a pain. Exclusives do matter.

[tulholdren]

To me they matter I buy more exclusives than mult.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

People seem to be missing the point here. Xbox is a Windows 10 device. Microsoft owns Windows 10. Exclusives going to Windows 10 PC as cross buys doesn't hurt Xbox as Xbox is Windows 10.

[2pacalypsenow]

Nobody buy the Xbox one thinking its a Windows 10 machine

[joeorc]

@343_Guilty_Spark + 2h ago
"People seem to be missing the point here. Xbox is a Windows 10 device. Microsoft owns Windows 10. Exclusives going to Windows 10 PC as cross buys doesn't hurt Xbox as Xbox is Windows 10."

Just like not having any AAA exclusives on the PSVita did not hurt the PSVita right?

[alvgamin4lif]

If exclusives doesn't matter, then why are people purchasing a wii u? Also why purchase a ps4 or vice versa? True, exclusives may not be as big as third party titles like call of duty, but they give an edge towards a certain console. In my case I went with a ps4 first this gen (I'll eventually purchase a xbox1 and either a wii u or nx as well) because I enjoy ps exclusives especially the amount of jrpgs playstation gets. If not for that I could've gone for a xbox1 first instead.

[masterfox]

well if you own a Wii U, xbone or PCs it really doesn't matter, but for a PS4 owner like me it does really matter, imo only in PS4 you can get the most awesome gaming experiences at the moment.

Years ago I had the same feeling towards Nintendo but then again they only care about Marios this and Mario that annihilating awesome franchises like Metroid, F-zero, Starfox, or I can go further back when they ditch out Rare.

[Poroz]

Games are art.... art is for everyone.....

Exclusives only create segergated communities. Pc, Xbox, ps4, wii u, instead of coming together as one community. We are split into groups and just fight and argue with each other.

I am over the "jeleous marketing tactic" let's make people jeleous to make them buy our shit.....

To bad I am not the jeleous type.

You should be choosing a console because you prefer that company or that style of look. Or even specs. Controller feel. The look of the gui. The speed of the machine.

Make it fun!

Make a game called xbox vs ps4...
Have the Xbox players on one team
Have all the ps4 players one the other team.

Let them duke it out. In a literary console war.

[2pacalypsenow]

Why because MS doesn't believe in them anymore?

[_LarZen_]

I'm glad to see we are moving away from unfriendly-consumer practices in the form of exclusive games. It's been happening for a good while now and with Microsoft leading the way with Xbox and Windows. If this continues we can hope for a future where you buy a console because of the price point and the features it has. Not because you have to buy console A or B because the games you want to play are exclusive to the machine.

And the PlayStation 4 is an example that exclusives are losing it's hold. The console has not had many if any real big system exclusive sellers. And still it's selling really good and much better then the competition.

Long live the death of exclusive games! Long live the games!

[joeorc]

@_LarZen_ + 54m ago
"I'm glad to see we are moving away from unfriendly-consumer practices in the form of exclusive games. It's been happening for a good while now and with Microsoft leading the way with Xbox and Windows. If this continues we can hope for a future where you buy a console because of the price point and the features it has. Not because you have to buy console A or B because the games you want to play are exclusive to the machine. "

So moving away from Exclusives you say, so PC games that were made only for windows is us going to Linux, Mac? Wow good to know/s

It's this doubled speak that gives This well its not exclusive if everyone is under the same Eco system, and which Eco system would that be now .. Hmmm Microsoft's?

Its this very reason , other companies in this market have their very own Eco systems, and do not want a direct "clone" of the existing PC market where the Console market turns out the very sane way.

Where one single OS and software company is the gate way you do not think that's not?

"unfriendly-consumer practices "

?....you really think that yet another Market where a single company has a D@mn near Monopoly is " friendly consumer practices?

Oh' brother..lmao

[_LarZen_]

It would be great if we had a bunch of other OS alternatives on PC. But we dont have that. It's Linux but let's face it...it's crap and for some hardcore nerds.

Even tho Windows has more or less monopoly on PC. It does not change my opinion that exclusive games should and must die. It's an extremely consumer unfriendly practice that gamer's have had to deal with for decades.

Finally we are seeing developers skipping exclusives and wanting as many as possible to be able to play their games.

If we had some real good OS alternatives on PC then I would understand you and your argument. But we don't.

[NohansenBoy]

As a PC gamer, it really does. If you give me no reason to buy a console and I can get say Fallout 4 on my PC and more, then why would I get a console and Fallout 4 for that console? Uncharted 4 might be the only reason I want a PS4 and Rare Replay is the only thing making me want a Xbone. I already got a Wii U, but that's because it's been hacked and I can buy an external drive and install all my physical copies to it and backup eShop titles so I don't bloody lose them for whatever reason. Also, I do like my Nintendo first party games.

It's been hacked, but the hack isn't out yet.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Exclusives, are the reason I own both a Ps4 & Wii-U.

[deester]

look people will say all kinds of things when it is their console of choice. me personally, I bought both .I like to play games on a console.Sales might not show it but for me being an adult gamer 46 years old. I feel like the Xbox one does so much more in the way of features it is not even close if people sit down and compare what each console will do it is game over but if 1080 is what really matters to you then go with PS4.to my eye you cant tell the difference in graphics.Now I am not saying I dont really like my PS4 I am just saying side by side the Xbox one does more for me in my entertainment system

[UndyingShadow]

So, what you're saying is, there's no reason to buy an Xbox One from here on out? K.

[lastking95]

That's ridiculous to say, exclusives give more incentive to one console over the other however it's not as big a deal as some seem to think believing exclusives are the only reason people choose one console over the other. In reality ppl have no clue what console exclusives will be on the console when they buy them such as day 1 buyers. Many console gamers don't even play exclusives(I know many)

When it comes to console exclusives coming to pc it can potentially cost a loss of a console sale but it would be very few. Not many console gamers game on pc like they do with console or even at all. An exclusives releasing on pc can actually sale a console! make someone switch to that brand. I personally choose 360 over ps3 and at least half the reason was thanks to halo ce being on pc. Take quantum break, if you're not an xbox fan or ever owned one and quantum break interest you and you buy it on pc, love it and it becomes you're favorite console exclusive but the sequel isn't released on pc, there's a good chance you'd pick up an xbox for it. Or you're not a hardcore pc gamer and was just using pc till you got a console and like the console exclusives you played on pc and decide to choose that console.

Few exclusives are console sellers ps4 has 1 exclusive that has sold over 3 million.(and that was probably because it was bundled) Ssod a great game has only sold around 1and 1.5 million. People can and will take interest in an exclusive but not many will actually make the jump to that console do to having brand preference or bias. Can't miss what you never played. Both brands have great exclusives but many can live and are living just fine without them. Xbox gamers will be just fine without uncharted 4 and Horizon, while PS gamers will be fine without Gears 4 and Quantum break.

Summary: exclusives matter but not the sole reason consoles are sold or picked over the other. Exclusives releasing on PC can turn some off and others on to the console the game is on.

[Petebloodyonion]

Exclusive matter to the hardcore brand fan who need some motivation in the form of exclusive to reassure himself that he made a better purchase compare to his fellow gamer.

For the average consumer, it doesn't mean jack Sh*T for they want to play the next Call of duty, Batman, Assassin Creed, Battlefront, etc.

In a way, the true parasite isn't MS, Sony or other companies
but the gamer who want new IP but don't want them on others platform thus preventing more often then not, the new IP to establish itself as a brand!

[bradleejones]

If it wasn't for exclusives, Nintendo would be out of business.

[S2Killinit]

Ummm I'm not going to waste my time reading this, but just going by the title, I have to really disagree.

[Tsunade]

It doesn’t matters when you are loosing at it and that has been the attitude on the xbox community this whole generation. Let's review it...

Power doesn't matter.
Resolution doesn't matter.
Indies doesn't matter.
Japanese games doesn't matter.
Sales doesn’t matter.
Winning doesn't matter.

And now, "exclusives doesn't matter". All this just to justify the poor performance of the Xbox this generation and how is miserably loosing against the PS4.

All that MATTERS! and that is exactly why the PS4 is winning and has complete dominance of the market and Xbox is loosing because for them... Nothing matters.

[maybelovehate]

True, if exclusives mattered Xbox would be dominating the PS4 right now. Especially the past holiday.

[Condemnedman]

Christ this thread is full of Sony tongue punchers

[scark92]

Salty Opinion, of course they matter, why else are so much funded for them.

[Dannylew]

This is not an opinion ../

This is only shit...

A great xonsole is made by EXCLUSIVE..... You know this word ????

EXCLUSIVE.... Idiot

[Night99]

A lot of people here are not able to differ between their own opinion and the mindset of the majority or the average. This article clearly isn't referring to an individual, it is not referring to the mindset of a hardcore gamer. You as 1 Core Gamer are not crucial for the success or fall of a console, not even all Core Gamer together are crucial for a console success. The subgroup of core Games is way to small to have any meaningful impact, if the Playstation 4 sells more than 100 Million consoles the Core Gamer amount is probably only somewhere around 10 percent.

The average Joe is the determining factor and for this guy exclusive don't matter and this is the point this article wants to make, this guy wants to play Fifa, GTA or Call of Duty.

As we obviously see here Core Gamers tend to be not the brightest candles of the cake, at least Sony gamers are not that smart ass very less of them seem to get quite easy to comprehend things. They all seem to think their individual mindset is the mindset of the average.