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Another Exclusive Remastering Is The Last Thing The Xbox One Needs

Pixel Gate UK ponders over why Microsoft are so willing to invest in exclusive remasterings for the Xbox One:

''The rumors have been floating around for some time now, but it seems Gears of War: Ultimate Edition is real. Microsoft’s Xbox One will play host to a new version of the classic 360 title, but is it really what Xbox One owners want to hear? Or even play?

However way you spin it, both the PS4 and Xbox One have hardly got a exclusive games library truly worth boasting about. The scales have shifted towards the PS4 in recent times, mostly due to the brilliant Bloodborne, but there’s hardly a wealth of ‘killer apps’ on either system. The likes of Ryse & The Order 1886 failed to make a impact beyond looking pretty and Titanfall turned out to be a flash in the pan success. Killzone and Second Son were met with various amounts of success, but never truly felt like the ‘big’ titles many were expecting them to be.''

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Jalva3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

From my experience the Gears of War games are extremely boring, I just don't know what people see in them, bland cover based shooting with dudebro characters and forced emotions, but to each their own and all that.

hello123272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

Boring do you play alone? Have you know online friends? Boring is the last thing Gears of War is get real.

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition is real. Microsoft’s Xbox One will play host to a new version of the classic 360 title, but is it really what Xbox One owners want to hear?

Who you talking to? Gears fans would gladly play a Gears 1 remake for the x box one if the next gears is not out till 2016

Gears 1 is not replacing the new game so its not a big deal.

rdgneoz33272d ago

"Boring do you play alone? Have you know online friends?"

Grammar / spelling?

As for the remake, it should be a good way to pass the time till the next Gears game in 2016 or so.

BiggerBoss3272d ago

I sort of agree and disagree with you. Gears is definitely alot of fun IF youre playing with friends, but I find the SP to be lacking in a lot of ways, mostly creative criticisms.

On the topic of remastering, I think it would be a mistake to remaster ONLY Gears 1 after setting the bar so high with MCC. If it has multiplayer from 1-3, then it starts to look more attractive. I also would hope that they give it the same sort of graphical treatment as Halo 2 anniversary.

darthv723272d ago

Remasters work exceptionally well when they are collections. As in the jak collection, ratchet collection, sly collection, master chief collection....

you feel like you get your $$ worth when the remasters are delivered in a compilation / collection.

LexHazard793272d ago

Even alone its still a blast!

4Sh0w3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

I'd buy a Gears 1 remake for my X1 in a heartbeat.

A 1-3 collection would be ideal but trust me for many gamers Gears is considered 1 of the best new shooter IPs from last gen, actually cant think of what new shooter IP from last gen most would consider better and its of course among the very best in the genre from any generation= so having the original with upgrades on my X1 is a no brainer.

Eonjay3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

Gears fans would gladly get the remaster. God of War fans will gladly get the remaster.

But this represents an opportunity for Microsoft. It can't cost much to remaster this game so why not make it the next bundle and get more players on board for Gears 4. Sony should (but probably won't) do the same for GOW4.

umair_s513272d ago

I never played it , so either way I am getting it. ....

sonarus3272d ago

GOW was fantastic when it first came out. The second one as well. However i feel replaying this game would be a bit dated but perhaps the enhancements will be more significant

kreate3272d ago

I have all the gears of war. Willing to play online w anyone Right now or anytime.

That being said, I only bought and played gears only becuz everyone else said its so good.

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WCxAlchemist3272d ago

YOU havent played Gears this is obvious by your statement!! You can call Gears alot of things but Boring is not one

TheDevKit3272d ago

That's nice and all but a lot of people find them fun and would like to see a remaster.

rivencleft3272d ago

I've never gotten to play a Gears game, owned the 360 for a short while but now owning the Xbox One I'd love to see them remaster Gears 1-3 so I can finally play it. Halo MCC was the first time I played Halo and I love the SP campaigns, play it with my wife all the time. There are a ton of people out there like me that have never touched certain games, like Gears, Halo, etc. so I think remasters are a great way for newcomers to experience such amazing games. I don't see the issue with remasters, don't like it, don't buy it, but other people, like myself will.

Kingscorpion713272d ago

I believe Gears of war and Halo is what keeps Microsoft Xbox relevant. I just think its getting a little stale since these games comes out every generation now.

darthv723272d ago

As stale as say...Gran Tourismo???

I kid, I kid....

I do like the GT games but you know you got something that works when people expect a new release within a timely manner.

It's why you have people who are excited for the GT7 and the FM6 game info. just as there are fans waiting for more info on halo 5 and a possible Gears 4 (a real sequel).

you can't please everybody but you can certainly please those who are fans of these series.

LexHazard793272d ago

You must be new to gaming. Alot of game franchises go cross gen, its been happening like idk forever it seems..lol

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

So PS fanbase only care about new stuff. No wonder the classic IP aren't coming back aside from Gran Turismo from PS1

WilDRangeRfc3272d ago

Killzone,Uncharted and GOW do exactly the same

Kingscorpion713271d ago (Edited 3271d ago )

I'm a PC gamer. Why are you talking about ps4 games? What does that got to do with anything lol What about the Last of us? What about BloodBorne? Two new IPs and masterpieces. Like I said this is coming from a PC gamer

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Darkwatchman3272d ago

I don't like the first, but the next 2 were great with the third game in particular being one of my favorite games of the last generation

WilDRangeRfc3272d ago

Best MP was 3.Best campaign/singleplayer was 1 by far

user74029313272d ago

i agree, thats why i never bought a xbox i never liked those gears games, but you will have people who just cannot accept you saying anything and i mean anything bad abut gears of war because you will get eaten alive savagely.

Aloren3272d ago

You really "never buy a console" cause of a game you don't like ? that's stupid.

wakeNbake3272d ago

No your just the biggest Sony troll on the site.

TheCommentator3272d ago

No, not eaten alive savagely. You will have a grenade stuck to you as you get kicked back over to your friends though. You must have confused Gears with Left 4 Dead.

Lukebb913272d ago

After investing so much time in the games, books and comics i feel like your comment has been a personal attack on me lol nah i dont care because you have your own opinion however i strongly disagree throughout all of the gears consumables there is a very well told story. The dude bro thing was an unessecary statement In a lot of ways the games play like the comics stories unfold with short dialogue that mostly hits a relevant mark but lacks depth i accept that but the books are very good.

Quite recently rod had an intrerview with oxm i think and he explained how gears was never planned as a game with sequels, it was meant to be a one time thing that was left with an ending you imagined, after its success 2 and 3 where pushed out to praise judgment was ok but as far as gears goes its MP is the only major kick in the teeth fans have really had.

WeAreLegion3272d ago

Dude... The campaigns in Gears 2/3 are excellent!

Lukebb913272d ago

I think all of them are excellent, i always liked how RAMM's shadow managed to make minhs death have a bigger impact.

700p3272d ago

Gears is one of the best third person shooters out there, their multiplayer is also one of the best. SO pls.

StrayaKNT3272d ago

But I'm guessing you think uncharted and the order aren't boring? Lol gears of war is the best games from last gen go get a xbox and try them before you talk dude.

You actually need to skill to play these games.

Skankinruby3272d ago

While millions will definitely disagree with you i surely dont. Played gears 1 and 2 and watched my brother go through 3, I'm sorry but they're generic garbage. Muscle heads with idiotic dialogue and a bland silly attempt at a storyline is just laughable to me. If you can't compose a complete sentence defending a game without using the words 'online' or 'multiplayer' then it says very little about the game. But like you said, to each their own.

Pogmathoin3272d ago

Bland cover based...... Troll giveaway.....

Sayai jin3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

Jalva get a clue.

Ridiculous article too. Site voted on.

showtimefolks3272d ago

Tell me again how long has ps4 she Xbox one been in the market? Yes that's what I thought. If you look at both consoles than they have really delivered a lot more than any past console launches in history

Look at wiiu it took years for some games to come out yet both ms and Sony launched and supprted the consoles well

Infamous
dead rising 3
drive club
forza 5
state of decay
the order 1886
forza horizon
halo collection
the last of us
gta 5
ryse
knack

3rd party

Farcry 4
Ac unity
bf4
hardline
Ac unity

And this doesn't even include indie titles

Now on topic

If you don't like remaster than just skip them. There aew people who never plated gears,last of us or some who waited for next Gen versions of these games

I would love to play gears of war 1-3

Mass effect trilogy
legacy of kain
uncharted
god of war

Guess what no one is forcing us to buy the remaster

Stop complaint about everything

Majority of the times the remaster are being find by otger,studios who use this opportunity to sink their teeth and learn next Gen tech

So it's not all negative

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nicksetzer13272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

I disagree entirely with the point, I actually like some of the remakes, and as of yet none have caused delay with new releases. What is weird though, why does he just mention MS as if they are the only ones making remasters? (When they actually have the least first/second party remakes)

Halo MCC, maybe gears and state of decay hardly makes an unreasonable amount of remasters Of first/second party games.

Heck, Sony has GOW3, TLOU, tearaway, journey, flower, and possibly an uncharted collection.

Nintendos whole first year was filled with remakes like dark siders. Not to mention their handheld consoles almost always thrive on remakes. (Not to say there aren't new titles)

Not only that, other PUBLISHERS that aren't console maufacturers have been pushing out remasters.

The problem arises when there is not enough new. Remakes are not bad And ALL 3 systems have plenty of games, on top of a few remakes.

@pixelgate it is only a post "about xbox" because you chose to make it such. It is not as if some prevailing entity was forcing you to only single out one publisher. In fact, out if the ordinary to randomly decide to single out one console/publisher as if everyone else is immune or non-existent. Not sure what you are getting at.

PixelGateUk3272d ago

Because it's a post about the Xbox One? The site has plenty of content based around Nintendo and Sony, this was a post about Microsoft.

The Wii U, and well...err most nintendo systems already have a identity. The PS4 is slowly starting to carve out it's character, mainly due to Bloodborne and it's indie support. The xbox one is still looking for it's groove, the Master Chief mess was a huge bump in the road, as too was the short life span of Titanfall.

I'm really not sure why you'd expect Nintendo & Sony to heavily feature in a post about Microsoft.

christocolus3272d ago

I agree with your comment 100%.Gears will be 10 years old next year and this will give the new generation a chance to experience the best version of the game.

PixelGateUk3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

You need to stop being so sensitive over Microsoft mate, like honestly you're acting like the post is a hate speech, relax :P

'' it is only a post "about xbox" because you chose to make it such''

Well yeah...that's literally stating the obvious. Why does everyone try to make everything a 'fan boy/girl' issue on here?!

nicksetzer13272d ago

Did I? I thought I was simply asking a completely valid and rational question...

Also, you posted a quote that directly responds to what you asked me, were you expecting no answer? Or for me to suddenly change my mind?

Sounds to me like you are the one being sensitive. If you can't take critiques on articles without whining you might as well just stop now, because I will certainly not be the first or last to do so. (Many time it will be MUCH worse)

Rookie_Monster3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

Pixelgate,

You know if this Gears HD is real it would only be the second such retail HD port that MS has made on XB1, right? "ANOTHER" EXCLUSIVE is really hyperbole as Sony already have TLOU, GOW, the Ratchet and Clank remake, and the rumored Uncharted HD on their system.

Where is your "Another Exclusive Remastering Is The Last Thing The PS4 Needs" article? If you are going to be a fair journalist, make sure you make it fair on all platform and not Single out a single console.

voodoochild3463272d ago

@Rookie_Monster

It's obvious isn't it. Trashing Sony won't get them the clicks they want so they go after Microsoft. It's all about money.

Bigpappy3272d ago

Of course people would prefer Greas4 over a remake. But guess what: There is no way they want a half bake Gears made in a year. They want the best Gears Black Tusk can make.

In the mean time, I am sure fans waiting on Gears4 are fretting about getting to play and enhanced version of the reason they are so looking forward to Gears4. Especially if they are reasonably priced like the MCC was.

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Bigpappy3272d ago

All true "nicksetzer1". What gets me about the opinion peace, is that the author attempts to speak for X1 owners, then puts his assertion in the form of a question. I don't mind people submitting these opinion pieces, but maybe they should at least be based on more that just personal preference. I am sue a simple question in any forum would give a slight idea as to if X1 gamer would buy a remake of gears?

May be just wait until it releases and fail before calling out M$ (Phil) on the decision to release a remake of Gears. To me it's a no-brainer and a money pit at that.

PixelGateUk3272d ago

No one is calling out anyone (calling out seems to be a term overused by people in the US?). Though i will say this, you dislike people assuming things...only to go on and assume things yourself? it's a bit odd.

The general reaction i obtained across the hardcore Gears community was a preference for Black Tusks Gears to be the best it can be, no one seemed even slightly interested in a remastered Gears...well there was a few people asking of Judgement, but i think that was in jest more than anything.

Sayai jin3272d ago

@Pixel, you sound like a nationalist when you say called out is a term is overused by people in the US. I am well traveled and there are very few countries that I have not traveled. I'm in the UK a few times a year and travel from London, Petershead, to Castlebar. That is term used a lot by the younger generation across the globe.

On topic, Gears is one the most requested remaster for the XB1. You mention that the harcore Gears fans are nnot really requesting this remake. Idisagree with this as well; as recently looked at the Gears (Epic) forums and this rumored remake is a hot topic. Whhhile many want Black Tusk to make the best game they want this game in the interm.

Not sure why you think that the second exclusive remake for the XB! is too much.

ginsunuva3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

"tearaway, journey, flower" are not remasters; Tearway is a new game and Journey/flower are regular ports that are cross-buy.
"possibly an uncharted collection"; not even confirmed so you can't cite that.
GoW3 being remastered is just unnecessary.
TLOU was a semi-reasonable due to its timing.

The problem is with 3rd party remasters like Injustice, Tomb Raider, Borderlands, FF Type-0, Saints Row 4, Sleeping Dogs, Payday 2, Metro, Diablo 3, Dark Souls 2, Devil May Cry, and DMC4

rainslacker3272d ago

I see a lot of the current remasters as more cross-gen releases and not really remasters. Halo MCC is a remaster, but only a couple of the games and the online modifications required any real remastering, the rest was just rebuilt for the new console using improved textures and such. GOW3, Flower, Uncharted and TLOU is pretty much the same thing where there doesn't have to be a lot of "remastering" compared to games like The Sly collection, MGS Collection, etc.

I don't see a problem with remasters myself, because new releases aren't slowing down in the least. They increase in frequency every year from 1st party. I can see problems with some of the 3rd party publishers like square who seem to do rereleases more than new games.

4Sh0w3271d ago (Edited 3271d ago )

Uhm, call them remakes, modified games, last gen games "rebuilt for the new console", or cross gen releases, whatever they are the end result is the same= old game+minor/major tweeks presented on new hardware, lol sure you could divert the conversation to defining technically what a "remaster" is, but it's quite obvious that this article is implying Microsoft are mistakenly bringing too many old games from past platform to its new Xbox One platform, when despite the terminology X1 has less older games made for their new hardware compared to ps4.

On its face the question sounds very disengenous given the circumstances across the industry as a whole and *IF one were to be writing about remakes X1 has the least compared to other platforms. He later mentions that both don't have a library worth boasting about but states his opinion that because of Bloodborne the scale is in sonys favor, which naturally seems to be one sided since in many others opinion Microsoft have been doing at least a better with their lineup as far as exclusive AAA IP's are concerned. Frankly imo games like Forza Horizon2 and Sunset Overdrive easily outweighed what sony offered exclusively in the previous qtr before Bloodborne...I think they were well worth boasting about but again opinions are just that, either way for the reasons I have just stated a critical look at this article suggests its motivated more by bias rather than an actual neutral look at the topic of remasters. lol, had the author rephrased his headline, presented the factual information in regards to the 3 major platforms and then said *personally that he doesn't want to play a Gears1 remake on X1, I'd just reply "to each his own", but here he simply sounds like a terribly biased writer trying to grab some hits.

rainslacker3271d ago

I wasn't trying to divert attention. I may be trying to define what is a remaster, because the point I'm trying to make is that this stuff has always existed, and it hasn't caused problems before. Cross-gen and porting to other consoles has been going on since the beginning of console gaming. The reason I do this is because of articles like this, or some people who comment making it into a big console war thing.

I do know what the article is trying to state, and I agree, it's an unfair accusation to say that MS is doing what it it is implying. It is completely untrue to be honest. There could be some merit if you look at 3rd party instances, but even then it's a stretch, and that's more multi-plat anyways. but even then, it's not like those are bad things, nor does it show a trend of fewer new games coming coming out. Otherwise, I don't feel either console has released or announced enough 1st party remasters to warrant even a look at this "issue". Even when we got 3-5 a year from 1st/3rd party last gen, it wasn't really an issue that needed discussion. Discussion would be warranted if it got to the point where there were 3-5 released every month as marketed releases, and new games started coming out only one or twice a month, but that is far from happening. The more concerning trend I see is the penchant for companies to shift their focus to mobile gaming, and their more traditional games take a back seat.

I think both consoles have a decent enough library for being under 2 years old. Prior gens have never had as many new games vying for the customers attention so soon.

But 100% agree that the writer is biased and looking for hits.

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Relientk773272d ago

We don't need anymore remasters, we have way more than enough this generation already

darthv723272d ago

while i agree that the remaster trend needs to phase itself out... of the three 8th gen platforms there is only one with the lions share of remasters.

can Pixelgate guess which one that is???

oasdada3272d ago

Because that platform has a lion share of exclusives

rainslacker3272d ago

If you're speaking of 1st party remasters, isn't it about equal between the two? For both released and announced/rumored.

Can't really control what 3rd party does.

Rookie_Monster3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

It will give a chance for new players coming from previous consoles like the PS3 to XB1 to experience the greatness of the Gears Franchise before Gears 4 drop.

It is a fan service and no is forcing you to buy it but more games the better, I say.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3272d ago

this excuse again.

No BACKWARD Compatibility

Blackleg-sanji3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

Let's see how many ppl show hypocrisy in this article now that gears is the one in the spotlight....knws already started
Edit: and I mean from both camps

Kane223272d ago

oh im expecting all kinds of praises when micro officially announces this game at e3.even though everyone got so mad at every remastered game that has come out so far.

Blackleg-sanji3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

It's crazy that God of war 3 article got trashed now yet here we are. Every remaster that gets announced gets trashed so it's funny to see certain names on here praising this

Edit:@below I'm sure timing is key but that collection didn't get any hate(rightfully so it's great value...when it works) I'm comparing the one game remasters tho

Edit2: so if this is just the gears 1 and not a collection it's pointless too right? I mean gears looked fairly good hell Damn good for 360 s

darthv723272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

depends on the game. The most common comparatives are TLoU and MCC. One of them being a remaster of a game less than a year old. The other being a compilation of 4 games (5 if you count ODST later on).

It is all about the timing.

edit: @blackleg, I dont think GoW 3 needed to be remastered as it is still a brilliant game. It and TLoU are bluray quality games that are taking advantage of HD visuals.

What is there to really improve?

It's one thing to simply remaster a single game. I see it like the directors cut of a movie. Maybe a few extras but nothing that really changes the dynamic of the original.

then its another to not just remaster but compile several entries into one package. You certainly feel like you are getting your $$ worth.

It was a great idea for the jak collection, sly collection, ratchet collection, god of war collection (see where I'm going with this?)

the key word in each example is "collection"

And for now it's just speculation it would be ONLY gears 1. MS would be foolish to just do a one off remaster. giving the COG collection a true bluray compilation would be very smart on their part.

JasonKCK3272d ago

It's about content and price. Don't want single remastered games with just a resolution patch. Something like The Orange Box, Hitman HD, or Halo MCC are more than welcome because it's a collection filled with content and a worthy price. A single game that came out 2 years ago that doesn't really look much better for $50 isn't welcome. I don't care if it's 1st party or 3rd, or who makes or publishes it, I don't want.

gangsta_red3272d ago

Which names in this article were trashing God of War 3 and are now praising Gears of War.

Just curious to know.

Blackleg-sanji3272d ago

Now gangsta...u know darn well who for the most part already

PraxxtorCruel3272d ago (Edited 3272d ago )

Difference is Gears of War 1 has multiplayer functionality providing it a long lease of life.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1012h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac59m ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad45m ago(Edited 44m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10124m ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 9h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 4h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN21h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo23h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies19h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic17h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9016h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 5h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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