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SEGA on Wii U: We wouldn't make games for an inferior console

SEGA has said that it wouldn't be supportive of Nintendo's new console, Wii U, if it couldn't achieve the graphical prowess of current-generation hardware.

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ThePsychoGamer4378d ago

I doubt that, they where the ones who made the best platformer on the Wii. (Sonic Colors)

dark-hollow4378d ago (Edited 4378d ago )

and look at all the idiots who didnt even get past the headline of the article.

"EGA has said that it wouldn't be supportive of Nintendo's new console, Wii U, if it couldn't achieve the graphical prowess of current-generation hardware.
Craig Harris, formerly part of IGN.com's Nintendo editorial team, now a SEGA employee, said that Nintendo had to "release hardware that's of the expectations of the gamer today".
While talking about SEGA's upcoming Aliens: Colonial Marines, which is being developed by Gearbox Software, Mr Harris explained that it simply wouldn't be on the console if the hardware didn't match up to today's platforms."

means that the wii u is actually powerful and they would not develop for it if it was weak. which even disapproves the "anon" devs claims that the wii u is weaker than the current consoles.

Hisiru4378d ago

@ThePsychoGamer
Misleading title. It's actually Gearbox and not Sega. He is saying that he wouldn't develop the Aliens game if Wii U was inferior to current generation of consoles.

NYC_Gamer4378d ago

The Wii-U will have the hardware advantage over consoles released 6 years ago..

NYC_Gamer4378d ago (Edited 4378d ago )

You think it won't?look at all the cpu/gpu that have been released since 06....Its impossible for the Wii-U not to outperform the 360/PS3 based on all the hardware released since then....all of those parts could be brought real cheap by us the reg customer just think about the deal Nintendo is getting since buying in bulk....

Honest_gamer4378d ago

yeh coz its not like allot of big developers have said the wii u is weaker than the ps3/xbox, look at the games on the wii so u think nintendo care about graphics, most of there fan base is children and old people

dark-hollow4378d ago

what "big developers"
unknown developer 1 and unknown developer 2?

never mind crytek, gearbox, darksiders developers, epic games praises about the wii u hardware.

fossilfern4378d ago

The Wii may have been an inferior system but lets not forget about the SNES, N64 and the Gamecube being extremely powerful systems, though the cartridge format held the N64 back.

So Nintendo did have very powerful machines its just their buisness model has, unfortunately, changed.

yabhero4378d ago

1. Crytek, Epic, Vigil ,Gearbox and EA all said it was powerful. Two unnamed debs said it was not. And that was the on April Fools or the day after.
2. Nintendo fans are mostly kids? Thast just something sore haters say because they are missing out Nintendo games. What about all the GameCube, SNES, N64 and NES gamers... Let's say they were 5 then? Then they are all at least 15 now... Some could be around 28 or so...

fossilfern4378d ago

Dont understand the disagrees NYC gamer. It would be stupid to build a console that is not the same level or better than the PS3 and 360 now considering how cheap components are now that are faster than both 360 and PS3.

Double_O_Revan4378d ago

Lets say it is equal, heck lets say its a Slight bit better. That'll last what? 6 months, then the next gens are going to come in and kill it.

Ck1x4378d ago

I have to ask what makes you think that both ps4 & 720 are going to be so powerful? Any PC gamer can tell you the amount of cooling solutions in place to run such high end graphics cards. So how do people think that both Sony and Microsoft are going to achieve the same high level intensisty in graphics in a closed designed system such as ps4 & 720 Will be.

Skate-AK4378d ago (Edited 4378d ago )

Hah I whoops didnt mean to reply.

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LightofDarkness4378d ago (Edited 4378d ago )

I'd read a little beyond the headline before I comment...

EDIT: s'cool now :p

Klad4378d ago

Did you even read the artical? Aliens: Colonial Marines (A SEGA GAME) is DEFINATELY in development for the Wii U, proving that it is on Par with (maybe even surpasses)todays HD consols. Craig Harris was obviously being sarcastic to the people blindly thinking that the Wii U is not as powerfull as the PS3 & Xbox. Maaaan, E3 cant come soon enough. (sigh)

Mintydog4378d ago

I expect not to see a SEGA game on the PS Vita then

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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SEGA announces Fearless: Year of Shadow

SEGA has announced Fearless: Year of Shadow, a campaign that celebrates Sonic the Hedgehog and his brooding acquaintance, Shadow.

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