Gamereactor has already spent a vast amount of time with Forza Motorsport 4 and thought it was time to compare its graphics to those of rival Gran Turismo 5.
not carfeully cherry picked shots
both looks great. At least i dont need to wait 5-6 years for forza 5
Interesting comparison. I'd say both games have clear advantages and disadvantages. For me, the cars and lighting in Forza 4 look a tiny bit crisper, and the damage modelling just edges it for me. But then, its not all about the visuals. Sure I'll be marked down by all the PS3 fanboys on here for stating a neutral opinion ;p
No i just think you're wrong, the cars look better in gt5 and the environment looks better in forza.
Environment, such as the trees and roads and grass? GT5 definitely had more work done into the detail of the environment. Just look at the pic with the GTR's, the trees in Forza look like pieces of 2x4 stuck in the ground with leaves attached. The sky even looks more realistic than GT5. Then again GT5 doesn't give off a sense of speed while Forza creates speed lines on the road to make the player feel like they are actually going fast. Although I do agree with splinter as the lighting looks to be a bit nicer on Forza making the cars shine a bit more, but that may not always be a good thing. Then again the car models show a lot more detail in GT5, looking at the F40. But I guess it all just comes down to opinion.
You are wrong, cars and lighting in Forza are much better based on the images. Look at 2nd, 4th and 6th images - obvious Forza is way ahead.
lol are you drunk or something?? http://www.gamereactor.eu/m... http://www.gamereactor.eu/m... car details and lighting are waaaaaay more realistic in GT5 - it makes Forza look like a cartoon
yah cuz all the bloom and glow make things look like real life. look at the sky and the lighting in gran turismo. You're a fool to think GT5 isn't the better overall game. ENJOY YOUR WARTHOG BOWLING. UMAD
Forza is superior on shadows, but it is known since day 1 that GT5 failed miserably on the shadows.
the cars in forza look nice but gt hold an edge however tracks and backgoruns look generally better on forza
Imo both look good. Putting GT5 cars on F4 tracks would be perfection.
some of those tracks look cartoony and the tracks in gt5 are closer to the real life tracks
Yeah, because in real life you often see 2D trees. /s
I DRIVE ON TREES!!! YEAH BABY!!! Is that how it goes?
Forza 4 looks much better then those screenshots. Absolutely beautiful game!
GT5 seems to have better lighting. Looks more real in my opinion. However I've yet to play GT5, so I don't know how that game looks in motion. Few days ago I was playign Forza 4 demo and I was litteraly blown away, how good that game is. Day one for me. I would love to have a proper GT5 demo, I am not much a racing-sim fan, so I am worried, that this game would be for me so hardcore...
Yeah GT5 looks more realistic but Forza 4 environments feel more natural. Either way both look good.
they both look much better than those screenshots
Agreed. It's a bit difficult with Forza 4 because it uses a lot of effects such as selective radial motion blur to give it a higher sense of speed than GT4. The HDR lighting in Forza 4 also appears to be much more aggressive in brighter sunlight, which is why some of those Forza images seem overexposed / 'cartoony'. When racing it makes it very vivid and 'pop' more while GT4 prefers more neutral tones. Obviously that means static images of Forza 4 hides the detail behind the blur and lighting effects while GT4 prefers to only have minimal motion blurring. If you really want to compare cars or track detail, you'd need to screenshot them both when the cars are NOT moving to make sure the various motion effects aren't covering and distorting the detail.
Turn 10 needs to work on draw distance
Forza 4 looks awesome BUT GT5 Cars looks 2x better
Forza 4 is way better looking than gt5,but that not whats important to me in a sim The feeling of the car is! And forza 4 is amazing! Its simply like racing a real car,the Physics are incredible and i for the first time in forza (and still dont got in gt for that matter) Have the feeling to be on the edge while racing..the speed feeling and danger is amazing too Forza 4 is set to be the greatest racing sim to date
Maybe we should decide which is better by comparing the worst example of each games graphics.
Now that's a good idea.
It Simplesly is.
that cant be forza 4. they should get hd shots of both..and then compare them..if thats forza then thats bad.
GT5 1.Not all cars are 500k+ polygons 2.the game is not full HD 3.2d trees Forza 4 1.No anti-aliasing 2.poor animation in side and rear view mirrors 3.poor resolution in side and rear view mirrors 4.lighting is worse than GT5 5.Resolution is worse than GT5's 6.Not as good draw distance as GT5 7.2d trees
GT5 stands out the most visually stunning to me, but I'm not talking bout technical details, I'm talking about what I see visually. It just looks more polished than Forza 4 to me. Both will be great game either way so...
To me, overall, GT has the better looking cars (the Zonda is an exception), while Forza has better looking backgrounds. That unnatural shine on the tracks, though, really takes away from Forza's aesthetics. On a related note, what color is that F40? I've only ever seen a stock F40 in that classic red Ferrari uses, but what's on the Forza model looks more like the Monza red (I think that's the name) available on newer models. As a fan of the F40, this kinda drives me up a wall, so if somebody can confirm that color for me, I'd be grateful.
Forza looks slightly beter IMHO, but it comes up to personal preference. Both game look great.
I don't know whats wrong with Forza's engine but the cars look like plastic with petroleum jelly splattered all over it then placed into the sunlight. Forza 4 looks like NFSS. Just my opinion... don't kill me Forza fans, I wan't to start a family one day :(
The cars and interiors clearly go to GT5. There might only be 200 (I'm sure there's more by now, or will be added soon) or so cars that feature these stunning graphics, but they're the best looking and most detailed cars in the business. The environments and shadows go to Forza. I love the tracks in FM3. They're all vibrant and full of life compared to GT5, which is odd considering GT5's tracks look true to life from a distance. I also love how the tracks look like people have been racing on them in Forza, and how the tracks feel while driving over different surfaces. There is a noticeable difference between FM3 and FM4. I always hated how the cars had that odd glow about them...like someone went over them using MS Paint or Crayola. They look much more realistic this time around.
That's cause they overcrowd the tracks in forza to give the player more sense of speed. Seeing thins pass by you is what makes you think you're going fast. OT. GT5 looks better. Ground textures, car detail, AA, interiors and lighting all look better in GT5. FM4 looks slightly better than FM3 IMO.
Forza 4 by a mile. I think the time they spent on all of their cars is the difference. Also the lighting, tracks and environments all look superior on Forza 4. Not taking anything away from GT5, that series used to run things back in the day, they just aren't as relevant anymore and I think their slow production time has cost them this generation. This is the 3rd Forza game this generation alone and each one has surpassed the previous in score and sales, so it's clear to me at least which sim is better. ....and don't get me started on customization, online, physics and crash damage because it all favors FM in a big, big way.
They aren't as relevant? Really. Come back after Forza 4 releases and lets see the sales. GT3 sold more than all forza games combined. Please try to make sense when commenting. You said it yourself this is the THIRD game this gen and it still doesn't beat Gt5 (the FIRST game this gen) clearly! LOL Forza Fans are just like the developers, shit talkers. Edit: Really FAT You bring up North America only sales and metacritic in an argument? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a hahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Yeah you made it clear alright that you are delusional! Your precious Forza can even beat sales of GT5:Prologue, a freaking demo!
What are you talking about? Your bringing up a GT from last generation. As I said, GT has lost it's relevancy now days. Forza 3 beat GT5 in sales in North America and also scored much better on Metacritic and with critics everywhere. I'd say that is one heck of an accomplishment. The Forza series right now is THE BEST SELLING RACING SERIES THIS GENERATION. Not sure I can make it any more clear then that.
Yeah, sales are the most important thing, I guess you think CoD is the best game ever made.
what the hell, why are they comparing GT5 against need for speed, ooopssss sorry i just realised it said forza 4 on the pictures, lmfao this forza guys are hurting again, ooo but but but look at our trees dont look at the cars look at the trees amazing lmao
Every detail contributes to the overall image. Making fun of a developer for focusing on the environments? How would you like it if GT6 on the PS4 had insanely detailed cars but had the same GT5 track detail? You wouldn't, right?
GT5 looks a lot better despite the pictures being kinda small. It would look even better in real life due to GT5 higher resolution.
GT5 cars look more realistic to me. But these screenshots are really crappy for both games. Wow, I think both games look a lot better than how these screenshots present them.
Personally I prefer Forza's graphics, there are often too many inconsistencies in GT5 environment details. Forza 4 is the newer game however, GT5 did look better than Forza 3, but now 4 looks better than GT5, so the cycle continues. But who the hell really cares? If you're a racing fan you should play both, on not engage in some stupid console "war".
Bad comparison Imo. Gt5: Better cars, better lighting, track authicity, crisper and realistic look. Forza 4: Lusher look to environment, its not perfect either but its kind of better than gt5's. Gt5's envoronment is flat (less polygons I think) and there is a noticeable lowres texture here and there. Both look good to me, two very different looks, but I prefer gt5's myself for its realistic, authentic crisp look, but 4rza's lusher environment is great, though its cartoony it is smoother looking overall, Gt5 environments are to inconsistent (detaillevel), but at times it looks almost like the real deal. But I call Forza as winner on environment.
When FZ3 released they showed camino track, when you get full game many of the other tracks lookd bland especially those on dvd#2 I suspect same this time round also. Also to note gt5 has some bland tracks, but some of them are mind blowing. I ask even the most stringent forza fan to drive on eiger k trail rally track its a real spectacle But the cars in gt5 look the best, even many standard cars are brilliantly modelled Forza uses more side track detail and looks more arcade, whilst gt looks more real
Those screenshots are too small to make an accurate comparison. If anything, they both look awesome. Is that a bad thing?
gt5 is far better
forza is still funner though
On my iPod typing this so yea
And Gt5 fans had their minds made up before they even looked, so the comparison means nothing.
I have both games, and would honestly say 4za doesnt look as bad as those photos seem. But even still, Grand Turismo 5 is overall better for the cars. Which is what the games are about, correct?
PLEASE. Consider this: as everyone seems to agree, the cars look better in gt5 but tracks are more accurate and environments look better in forza 4. But, during a race you are, wait for it, LOOKING AT THE TRACK AND SCENERY NOT THE CAR. For that, forza wins in my opinion. Im not saying cars in forza look bad, they don't, or that environments look bad in gt5, because they don't. But forza has put resources in the more important areas.
Actually, this will be the third forza game launched on the xbox 360, and it still doesn't surpass GT5 graphics, I mean c'mon? Is that the best you can do Turn 10? I can't imagine what another GT game would look like on the ps3 if it gets released, but I know that's not gonna happen 'til next gen! Disagree all you want but that's pure fact!!
Although the environments in both games look like crap I have to say PD have done a splendid job on their premium cars because they still look so much more detailed and just better all around. One thing I like about Forza 3&4 is that it's consistent with it's car models whereas GT5 has HD PS2 models. It's the level of inconsistency and bad decisions that made me dislike GT5. But I still love the premium cars in GT5 since I've never really hated them. When it comes to replicating a car %100 only PD seems to be able to do that.
they seriously used such terrible photos to compare... lawls they both look bad when you use such low res pics....
Achei um pouco melhor o gráfico de Gran Turismo 5. Gran Turismo 5 > Forza 4.
funny all the PS3 fanbots here... Forza is the King of Sim racing, but who knows in maybe 7 short years we will see GT6 loaded up with car models from gt5... Forza 4 !!
and it's kinda funny to see a Gran Turismo's wannabe right?? Just get it dude once and for all, go anywhere, any country, and just say the name "gran turismo" and then say "forza" you'll see which one has more impact. And yeah I know popularity doesn´t mean quality, but hey it's GT you're talking about duh! so it means QUALITY=POPULARITY=SALES kind hard to accept it right! ok now go and get some sleep!! haha jesus these xbots are so funny lately!!
Call it what you want but IMO Forza 4 will take the crown of the racing genre, this generation. The complete package. Reviewers already agree.
wow i really thought forza looked better but i forgot about how amazing gt5 is imo gt5 wins hands down more color better lighting all the grains on the road i can see in gt5 forza is just a blur
they fixed the shadows in GT5 yet? I haven't been on it since the first few weeks of launch but I'm interested in the spec 2.0 update. played Forza 4 demo - very impressed
Wow. GT5 holds up well. Trees are 2d but look less cartoony. Forza car models still look a bit off in some of those shots as well. There is more 3d detail in the environments in F4, but they look fake. Those who say the lighting in Forza 4 is better are nuts. I think some of you aren't getting out enough to see what outdoor lighting is really like. ;)
Videos are better http://www.youtube.com/watc... I think both games are good in there own way.
Have to say honestly nothing beats GT for graphics but Forza offers a wider variety of better and more enjoyable tracks.
Arent you all tired of these types of articles??? No matter what screens they show your going to have ppl who WILL never have both camps universally agree... WHY....because its subjective!!! Just read the comments...its back and forth and back and forth on which one has better this or that. SMH. In the GRAND scheme of things....does it even matter which one looks better??
Why do 99% of the screen shot look worse than what I see on my TV? Is it the jpeg conversion?
very obvious although the screen shot is small..totally no comaparison..GT5 environement and especially the car modeling is a lot better..can't you see?
Looked at all the pictures from the sky to the ground and the car in between. Everything looks better in GT5. The asphalt in Forza looks to reflect the sun like a mirror, the cars don't have the same level of detail and the tracks just look blah. I'd like to see Forza AI in action though. I'd buy it if the AI is good.
GT5, Forza 4 has improved no denying that however GT5 still looks better specially while racing. Theres just something off about the Forza 4 car models that makes it look almost cartoonish, Perfect example the F40 comparison.