VGchartz October & NPD October Hardware and Software Expectations: Xbox 360 outsells Wii Again

VGchartz has published their latest sales expectations for the month of October. Regarding hardware sales, they had this to say:

"Despite declining sales from the Halo 3 boost, Vgchartz is showing Xbox 360 ahead of Wii for this four week period. It is worth noting that on a weekly basis (week one to week four) however, 360 sales declined 10%, while Wii sales increased from the 40% from the week ending October 13th to the week ending November 3. DS and PSP remain spectacular and solid as well, while PS3 showed an increase in sales for the first full week of $500 80 gig's availability. However, the boost was barely enough to propel the system above the PS2 which is stabilizing at 35k to 45k per week until the holiday boosts kick in."

Total Console Sales for October,

Xbox 360 - 564,796
DS - 550,399
Wii - 512,477
PSP - 305,017
PS3 - 156,128
PS2 - 150,182
GBA - 61,932

Top 10 Video Games for October,

1. Guitar Hero 3 (360) - 798,671
2. Halo 3 (360) - 682,813
3. Half Life 2 (360) - 423,587
4. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS) - 284,565
5. Guitar Hero 3 (Wii) - 271,053
6. Wii Play (Wii) - 262,332
7. Guitar Hero 3 (PS2) - 254,596
8. Fifa 08 (PS2) - 166,068
9. Star Wars Battlefront: Renegade Squadron (PSP) - 161,479
10. Ace Combat 6 (360) - 156,145

[bluebrad1974]

Assuming these numbers are close, 360 should hit 15 mil by the end of the year.

[fe10]

360 it's the consolo to own.

[chester]

there should really be a "not official until confirmed with NDP numbers" on all vgchartz articles, just to stop the countless posts forethcoming about the validity of VG.

i'll wait until the ndp, but if these numbers are close, good for the 360 and i can't believe they sold over a 1/4 of a million copies of GH3 for the ps2. not that it's bad or the ps2 is out or anything, and i know there are about a billion ps2's out there, but still.

[EZCheez]

wrong post

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I'm gonna wait before I buy a 360, I already own a PS3, but I'm gonna wait until I'm certain that the 360's RROD is fixed.

[TheMART]

Uh it is fixed already.

Repaired 360's since this summer come back with an extra heatsink on the GPU, as are new builds after summer.

But wow, even a month after Halo 3 launched in September, the 360 is still on top with over a half million units sold if I read this right in USA alone. I am impressed.

PS3 WHAT??? 156k? WTF with that price drop already? Jees. PS3 is officially not catching up. 360 was on 12 mln. around july/august, so with August, September and October combined, November and December to go (and we know last december the 360 sold 2.1 mln. units, was that in USA alone or world wide I forgot...), damn... THey'll reach 15 mln. without any problems. They could hit even 17 mln. this year.

[EZCheez]

But I returned it after about 5 days. It was cool to have both systems but all I could think about was all the great games I could buy for my PS3 with $350. Now I have R&C, Guitar Hero 3 (never played any before but it is awesome), COD4, and I will be getting Assassin's Creed and Uncharted within the next two weeks. All of those games accumulate to around $340, so I feel really good about what I did.

It's not that I didn't like the 360. I really wanted Mass Effect but I decided I would live. Live looked pretty awesome, but after I downloaded about 7 or 8 demos and I only had 3 or 4 Gb's left on the hard drive, I felt a little shorted. What good is an amazing online like Live if you only give most of your consumers 20Gb's? Also, as far as the build goes, my PS3 made the 360 look like some Apple IIe computer. What's with the huge power brick? That thing is almost half the size of the console!

I'll stop ranting now, but what i'm getting at is if you have a PS3 (or a 360 for that matter) think of all the great games you could get for your current console with that money before you buy another one.

[YoMeViet]

err if MS did fixed the RROD wouldn't you think they would have made a big announcement about it?

[Devr]

Of course they wouldn't. Because according to MS, it never existed to begin with. :P

[dantesparda]

That was shipped back to me on July 22nd, doesnt have the extra heatsink in it (i can see right into it where it's supposed to be and see that its not there) and it's been freezing up and disc read erroring on me since day one i got it. So you're wrong kid! So try again with that bullsh!t and your assumptions

[ruibing]

The Falcon 360 is still not fixed, go dig up that kotaku article on the new RRoD. I believe the failure rate has been reduced, but hardly fixed for the new series of 360s.

[Icecold33]

@dantesparda - I got mine back in June and it does have the larger heat sink in it. It also has a different DVD drive. Runs Great, so there is some validity to what he is saying.

@EzCheez - Seems to me that you are actually too broke to own both systems. Although you had the money and bought the 360, the reason that you have buyers remorse is because you were broke again after buying it. As for all those games, a smarter way to have done that would have been to buy one game, beat it, then buy another one. You would definitely feel the money pinch a lot less. I mean, why buy 5-6 games at once, there's no way you would have time to play them all.

As for the demos that filled up your HD, I guess we are different, I tend to download a demo or two, play it til I've had enough, then delete it. Because by then, I know whether or not I want to buy the actual game. Perhaps, you should do the demos the same way as I suggested you did the game purchases, download a couple and play them instead of downloading a bunch of stuff that you're not going to have time to play. (It's not like there's going anywhere or costing you anything)

Anyway, different strokes for different folks, It's pretty clear that we see things differently. Oh, and the power brick is suppose to be put behind the TV or wall unit whichever you're using, this way the size of it doesn't become a factor while sitting next to your xbox. Don't know why people whine about the power brick, really is pointless you know.

[EZCheez]

Hahahaha!!!!!!

You said I was broke! That's funny. So because I'm not satisfied with a product I'm broke? That's comin from all the way from left field is you ask me.

If you would have actually read my post unbiasedly rather than consider it a knock on the 360, you would realize that the games I bought for the same amount I paid for my 360 I considered a better deal. But I guess that point flew right over your head.

I understand though. You probably don't own a PS3 so you wouldn't understand. Way to dissect my comment and give your own opinion about everything I said though. I don't exactly see the point of it, espcially since you obviously don't see where i'm coming from, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

[Real Gambler]

In my case I have many friends who visit me regularly. Not all of them own a PS3. And I have only about 8 games so far. So I kept most demos from the games I don't own on my hard disk because even if they don't own a PS3 yet, they know the games. So when they come over for the first time, it's always: "Do you have this game, or that game?" So sure, if I have it they can play it, but it's also nice if they ask for one and I can start the demo. I have an 60Gig PS3. Only 10Gig left and it's only demos!. So sure enough, I'll have to start clearing up some demos soon. Luckily most of my friends have seen them by now. Still, I'm pretty sure one will drop by and want to try an old one as soon as I delete it... So for me, even 60Gig is not enough... I'm even thinking about buying a bigger hard drive now.

Last nice side effect: Friend who's not a gamer at all, come to your place and ask you why I bought a PS3 since he "somehow" heard there was no games for it... Show him my stack of games, and then boot the PS3 and show him 50gig of demos... Usually, after they pick up their jaw from the floor, they don't go around saying the PS3 has no game anymore : )

[Icecold33]

Hey,

I guess saying you were broke was a poor choice of words. I just know that if I was to buy something, and thought back on what I could have bought with the money then I probably should have never bought it in the first place.

I tend to weigh the pros and cons for all the purchases I make, and before I would have bought a 360, though about the games I could have bought for my PS3, I would have done so from the beginning and never bought the 360 from the start. But, then again, perhaps you were curious about the 360 I don't know.

Either way, I apologize if it appeared that I was judging you, because that's wasn't the case.

@Real Gambler - as for you, I have all the friends I need. And most of my friends are well capable of buying whatever they want. Even then, I'm not going to fill up my hard drive with a bunch of demos so that they would be there when my friends show up, just incase they want to play a demo. And to answer your question, I do have a PS3 (And a 360). I'm glad that your friends are in awe of your PS3 and the 45 gig+ of demos that you have. I don't have 8 games for my PS3 yet and that's because I am very very picky as to what I buy and what I play. And without sounding like I am taking a shot at the PS3 (Which I'm not) I haven't found 8 games on the PS3 yet that I would like to own. But that may change very soon with the coming line-up.

So, good for you that you are impressing your buddies with your 8 games and your 30 demos. I own 4 ps3 games (RFOM, R/C, MS, and Warhawk) and only 1 demo (Uncharted) I also have a few PSN downloaded games, but that's it.

But, it doesn't matter, I don't buy games nor download demos for my friends, they either play what I have or buy their own.

[dantesparda]

Im not saying that no 360 has the heatsink. And i wouldnt doubt if by now (11/17/07) they (the replacements) all do (have the heatsink). But he thinks that they all did since then, and says it like its a definite thing. And its not, and the im proof of that. And i too got a quieter drive in this one. But the damn thing has disc read errors. Also my roommate got one in August with the HDMI on it. And he has the super loud Hitachi drive, another thing that alot of the fanboys where saying doesnt happen anymore.

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halo 3 is still selling strong.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I Would expect Halo 3 to sell strong even now, Just Like Mario for Wii does, I Expect KZ2 to sell for along time for the PS3 as well, Mario, Halo and KZ2 are console sellers.

[rubarb23]

i wouldn't be surprised to see halo 3's number go up. i can't wait for the numbers to roll in after xmas to see who won.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

I would put my bets on MGS4 more than KZ2. It will outsell KZ2 by a large margin.

[Danja]

F-A-K-E numbers..VG charts...

[chester]

they're not fake. they may not be completely accurate and i'm sure the numbers will change slightly for the ndp charts, but it's not fake. although i can see why some fanboys might hope they were.

[KnowitAll]

When the npd numbers come out when were around december you be saying thier old!

I thing the xbox numbers are little to high maybe 450-525k!! But if its true like dam! thats good.
Since xbox360 sold 14k more than the ds.

[xplosneer]

How much did the 40GB boost numbers for November?
Unfortunately we might never know.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

next month not never. It will be interesting to see how it does in America, as the lower price has given it a boost in France

[Snukadaman]

since they count motorstorm in 80 gigs we can deduct the number of 40 gig ps3s from the total number then get...it might be off a bit but not by much.....

[BIoodmask]

to see the Xbox 360 outsell the Wii at least throughout the Months of Oct, Nov, and Dec. These are after all the hottest shopping months of the entire year for consoles.

Not to mention that the 360 starts at just $280, and the Wii at $250. No ill feelings towards the Wii. It is just that Halo 3 seems to be pushing 360 hardware sales tremendously, Mass Effect will most likely push some consoles to an extent also. It will be close though bc Super Mario Galaxy will push the Wii.

And as to the validity of VG Chartz, of course they are not 100% accurate but they are usually in a pretty close ball park range.

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

Oh come on, lets be honest.

Mass Effect isn't going to have nearly as big an effect (no pun intended) as Halo 3 did on Xbox 360 sales. Halo is an established franchise that everyone knows, Mass Effect is a brand new IP. Oh and don't forget the massive discrepancy in marketing for the two games (you're not going to see 'Mass Effect' on any soda cans, that's for sure).

[Rooftrellen]

I would be somewhat shocked if the 360 didn't outsell the Wii, at least in NA (around the world, I just don't think there's enough interest in the 360 to keep up).

However, I don't think it's because of the games, really. The games on the 360 are more hyped, but there are a larger number of good games for the Wii that have been/will be released September-December.

I think, rather, it's because the hyped games for the 360 appeal more to the average American gamer than many of the Wii games that are on their way to end the year, and the Wii doesn't have the supply to keep up.

The major question in my mind for who wins the holidays in NA is how much has Nintendo been stockpiling Wiis. If they haven't been holing back enough, the 360 will win because supply shouldn't be an issue, while it will for the Wii. If Nintendo has been stockpiling a ton (and I have said they have been for quite a while), the Wii will likely win due to its larger demographic and larger library of solid holiday games (the hardcore will know of Fire Emblem, though its not AAA).

It will be interesting to see this holiday in NA, and, really, all over the world. All three consoles are trying their hardest to win this one, and it may determine who wins the console war as developers start to back the console that comes out on top.

I'm calling NA 360's land, with you, but, worldwide, I just don't think the 360 has the games the rest of the world is looking for.

[The Chief of Mjolnir]

But Mass Effect is made by Bioware, the maker of KOTOR. And most people know that.

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

KOTOR. Meh. I heard it was a good game but I'm not really into first-person games (especially on consoles). But KOTOR is still a 2nd tier franchise, doesn't compare (in terms of popularity) to the 'big boy' franchises like Halo, Grand Theft Auto, Mario, Zelda, Gran Turismo, etc.

So Mass Effect is going to move a lot of consoles because it was created by the same company that made a 2nd tier franchise? That's stretching it a bit.

[JOLLY1]

Is the ps3 really getting beat by this much in NA? I knew the 360 was a better selling system. I just didn't know it was roughly 4:1.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

they are usually close, last month they reported sales numbers lower than NPD for 360

[MK_Red]

As DarthNihilus said, they are usually close, specially in case of NA sales. They had bad reports on world sales but their American numbers are pretty close most of the time.

[Filanime03]

I've been going to VGchartz since April of this year and tracking the consoles number. Almost each month VGChartz are overtracking the ps3 numbers and undertracking the 360's number. It seems VGChartz are playing it safe this month as far as the ps3 numbers. I think VGchartz doesn't want to make the same mistake they have in the past as far as ps3 numbers goes. So I believe the ps3 numbers is higher than that. Vgchartz is just undertracking the numbers to play it safe.

[ParaDise_LosT]

Great to see Xbox360 outselling the DS
Its VGCharts tho, but they've also been showing 360 numbers lower than NPD as of late.

[Filanime03]

lots of times they made a mistake about the 360 numbers they are undertracking it since June. But i believe this time they are undertracking the ps3 numbers.

[ParaDise_LosT]

that R&C isn't there?
Or any PS3 games for that matter...

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I to was wondering why R&C was not there, It is kind of odd to say the least.

[rebelxs]

After reading some of the comments in these forums you would be lead to believe that 360 had one foot in the grave already.This is great news and proves that Microsoft is a serious competitor this go around.
True Sony has done some great things as of late,question is how is Microsoft going to respond? Hopefully they won't sit back and rest on their laurels as next year is looking tough for them.

[sunnyhours]

R&C Tools of Destruction is not selling high numbers? I love the game, and it's disappointing to not see it doing better. I was hoping for future DL content for it if it did well.

[sunnyhours]

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[MK_Red]

Good news IMO. A console with Assassins Creed, COD4, BioShock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Orange Box and Rock Band outselling a console with only 3 worthy games (Galaxy, Zack and Metroid) is good news for me. Hope PS3 sales also rise. Both PS3 and 360 deserve much better sales.

[Lex Luthor]

R&C out of the sales charts already?

[solideagle1]

i was wondering too that R&C man i had high hopes for this one well back (hopes)to uncharted.... well look at the numbers between PS3 and xbox360 its almost embarassing to compare them. i m not here to flame war just disappointed...i m a ps3 fan but not fan boy. all year i was expecting that one time perhaps ps3 could have outsold xbox360 but it never showed up there.well any way
thanx

[jackfatal]

they increase all numbers but the 360 by so much around 70k compared to NPD numbers!!

[SIX]

They need more games that appeal to NA gamers. This is why they need to bring out UT and advertise like crazy.

[Rooftrellen]

These sales are amazing.

Three consoles sticking above 500k is great.

I can see the 360 riding this wave and taking NA this holiday season, which I wouldn't have said a month ago.

The Wii and DS are both still doing stupidly well, but this is nothing new.

Sony needs to get into this console war.

[KingJames1906]

I just don't understand it. Now I'll believe these numbers are close when I see the NPD October numbers, but come on. The sales of software sounds closer to me than the hardware. I think that's a little high for the 360, Wii, and DS. But what's with all the hate on the 360 from some of you? Is that really necessary? If it does well, it does well. If not, that fine to.

"Don't hate the Playa, hate the Game!"

[gunnerforlife]

wow 360 is doing much better than i though, especially since the halo effect is gone, but for u lot that think the 360 is the console to own tell me this what great game thats out have u got thats not an fps.

[Xi]

crackdown
forza
pgr
gears of war
ace combat
oblivion

and mass effect is right around the corner.

the 360 is not the fps console the xbox was, it's got a very wide range of great games to play.

[KingJames1906]

Dead Rising and Saints Row.

[OOG FunK]

halo effect wont be gone until cmas since many people get that stuff for their kids for cmas but yea interesting numbers gonna be interesting to see where all the consoles stand at the end of the year.

[otherZinc]

happened to all of those so-called AAA PS3 titles that was going to sell the PS3?

I tried to tell people, those games were not that good.

[blue_magic]

cool

[ParaDise_LosT]

Sales doesn't = Good game....
So even if R&C didn't get to the top 10, that doesn't mean its a bad game...
It just means PS3 fans are too busy acting supperior and rubbing it on our faces instead of actually buying the game...

just kidding! Please don't kill me ps3 fans </begs>!!

[OOG FunK]

lmfao paradise bahahahaaha get the fanboy shield out your gonna get six axed to death lmfao

[JokesOnYou]

360 had a very small 1 week sales victory over the ps3 in Japan, but no one can deny it was a HUGE moral victory, that made many in the industry take notice.

Now we look at these *predicted* vg #'s and you just have to be amazed first of all that NA is buying so much damm software and hardware, yes its a huge territory but still the year over year increases we've seen when compared to past years really indicates how much the industry has grown in NA.

Now OK with that said, looking at 360's hardware and those amazing software sales (1, 2, 3) it just goes to show micro has continued to deliver and gamers are rewarding their hardwork/strategy by buying into the 360, more and more 360 is increasing its sales lead over ps3 and word of mouth on the streets is favoring it as the best GAMING console to own, it will take alot for sony to overcome this and unless micro sits on their hands, it will be very very hard to change this opinion.

Then of course sonykids would like to talk about RROD or anything else to draw attention away from what has clearly been a dominant performance by the 360 in the last few months compared to ps3, I ask if RROD is so much a problem why don't we see sites reporting that many continue to have problems?(like before), where are the forums with many 360 owners complaining?(like before), where are the polls with legit gamertags registering RROD failures?(like before), this is not to say 360's are NOW fixed, problem FREE, it doesnt take much for anyone to say my 360 failed 20x's, nah but seriously I know some have a legit complaint about their 360 failing, but other than 1 guy here and there, for those who say the 360 RROD failure is anywhere near what it used to be, I would just say provide some info/link, I'd like to read a recent Link with just a minimal amount of proof that indicates this is true, research data, analysis, etc anything, I love to read info, good or bad, otherwise it just seems like you're going off of old news, just more of the same, "towel trick jokes" from sonykids, lmfao nice one!

Finally, where are these amazing ps3 games sonykids keep screaming about, why in the world is AC6 at #10 on the list with only 156k sold yet, no ps3 game is on the list, I know on *rare occasions great games dont sell as well as they should, but come on NO amazing ps3 game with the power of the cell, only can be done on bluray, pixar graphics, is on this list???= at some point you just have to start asking if these *amazing sony exclusives are so great then why isn't everyone *buying in to *play beyond, just wondering?

JOY

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