UK PS3 sales drop

After three weeks of improved sales for the PS3, the status quo seems to have been restored once again.

PS3 sales last week plummeted back to where they were before the price cuts and the launch of the 40GB model.

Sales of the Xbox 360, in contrast have held pretty steady in the last few months, an average of around 11,000 sold a week.

The PS3 now nestled back into its former postion in the sub-10,000 group.

[sjappie]

had already expected.

@ Eagle. What party? I just said that me and others expected that. Don't be such a crybaby.

[P4KY B]

Nice to see some normality returning.

[ruibing]

I'd rather wait for the monthly sales review before making my call.

[eagle21]

maybe this is most of ya'lls last year playing games. Sony has no Halo out and still you want dominance? They still outsold 360 in europe last week. Up Down Left Right, see what the next 5 years prove. So much fair weatherness on this site. PS3 still has the best games lined up regardless of your comments.

[unlimited]

it dont matter..the ps3 is actually doing great over there...by next year when more exclusive games come out..we will see more exploding sales

[Evil0Angel]

what about the number provided by NLS group (Nasim.Larry.Shmme)???

where the hell is he?

[jackfatal]

if u like shooter games then u got killzone2 and UT3 and HAZE,if u like RPG then u got FF13 and its sequels if u like racing then u got GT, if u like action/adventure u got for now heavenly sword and uncharted and metal gear solid 4 and if u like action then u will get god of war 3 sometime in the future if u like casual then u have singstar and littlebigplanet and eye of judgment and echocromo i dont know how to write this name but u will find it if u buy ps3, if u like platformer game then u got ratchet, and of course we can expect a game from teamICO and jak and dextor by next year! am i missing something?? of course i wont say that u must like all but at least if u r a gamer that love games then u will like a bunch of them that for sure! and u can never make decision before u play the games but of course if u r a x360 fanboy or u love only the features in x360 then i cant help u and no one can,probably time will help u!!
this is the best period of x350! if they dont sell well now then they will never sell well again!
us for the ps3 things is just started with the price drop and ratchet!

[KineticX]

Sony's last desperate attempt to raise sales...FAILED.
Can't blame them for trying.

[shmee]

in GERMANY x360doesnt exist...VGCHARTS has x360 around ps3 last week

www.amazon.de ....all ps3 skus are in top 100 vs 0 x360 skus
x360 is simply non existent in EU except UK

x360 is dead in both EU and JAPAN ..simply dead

MS tried hard and has died in those places. It is not long before x360 dies in NA too

PES PS3 outsold PES x360 10:1 all over EU despite having 2/3 of the base.

VGCHARTS numbers are what are being talked about now .

what a shame???

even in VGCHARTS sales ps3 went on to beat x360 last week in EU by 10k units

www.vgcharts.org/eweekly ------ofcourse these are wrong figures . X360 doesnt exist outside UK in EU

[Real gamer 4 life]

This is really upsetting for the playstation fan everywhere. Sony is winning the blueray battle put its not winning the console battle. Sony need metal gear solid now they need uncahrted now they need ff13 now they need god of war now they need grant turismo now and they need all their blockbuster games now. Because the media doesnt understand that the ps3 was released a year ago and it now picking releasing their good game.

[lawman1108]

Sony packed in a MOVIE with the 40gb when they should have packed in a GAME RFOM would have been a good start. They blinked and BLEW IT! PLAYWITHYOURS3LF

[badkolo]

how is sony winning the blueray, you have no clue, more stand alones have been sold for hddvd, and this week alone 90,000 100 buck hddvd where sold, it will continue. more studios are going hddvd, its still very even.

[TheExodus]

Wonder if Sony has that $299 DVD-based SKU ready yet, because they're not going to hold 3rd party support with two hundred dollar price cuts in less than 6 months that even together failed to lift sales.

[titntin]

I think it would only be fair to keep an eye on the sales numbers over the coming weeks and see how they settle. The source of these figures has a history of getting it wrong and heavilly revising the figures within a few days, and I suspect you'll see a revision of these estimates shortly.

The article though certainly paints a gloomy picture, one that I personally don't 'buy into' as I am playing lots of great titles on both 360 AND PS3, and the releases for christmas are strong. I still believe its a bit early to be crowing about Sony's demise!:) Time will tell!

[Hugh Hefner]

I don't think it means Sony's demise... but a well cemented third place.

[ps3gogetitt]

I said it, I told all these FAnboys to just wait before celebrating a spike.....you need at least 3 months of consistency before you start celebrating.....

Trust me I celebrated a lot on the first price drop.

[Meus Renaissance]

Seems like the console has a bad reputation in the market in terms of it. The Xbox 360 is becoming the cultural choice for gaming for many adults and teens alike in England.

The price reduction was set to cause a boom in sales but I said it from the first minute that Sony need to continue that trend, and to even better it, if they want to overtake Microsoft in world sales.

What's equally worrying is that there seems to be indications that Ratchet & Clank isn't selling too well either. Although VGChartz isn't the most accurate source of data, it estimates the game sold around 140,000 since launch. Ace Combat 6 has outsold, and this Ratchet is meant to be an AAA title.

This should be a cause for worry for Sony. It seem's perhaps that suggestions of "too little, too late" may have some weight. Have Sony ruined their reputation with a high launch price with lack of games? Are people just not thinking any different of the console as of late?

Sony must sell atleast the same amount of hardware as Microsoft this holiday semester. It's a must. Although I'm confident games like MGS4 will sell alot of hardware, what will the future be for the console of the Xbox 360 continues to outsell it?

Regardless of what happens this generation, Sony have learnt a massive lesson. That $600 price tag of the console and the lack of games, despite its first year - it was competing with a console in its 2nd year, with AAA games coming out frequently, the first year is a sad excuse. It was their own doing for the hardware that was delayed and it just seems that people have decided that PS3 is not for them so they're looking elsewhere. Again, the price has gained a reputation. The lack of games aswell. I bet there are still people in the world who think the PS3 has no good games or it's still too expensive.

What a poor day for Sony. If they fail this holiday, especially in Europe, then there's no way back unless they sell atleast 1 million consoles every month in 2008 and not even the most avid fanboy could imagine that.

Sony just never really tried, but they are starting to now. A year after launch they've started to put on good commercials, cut the cost and delivered great games. It's like a relaunch but is anyone listening, is anyone watching? They should have done this at the start of 2007 or early then, it's almost 2008 now and I don't see how Sony will finish anything but last this generation.

With the price cuts and upcoming games, I expected around 2-3million consoles sold this holiday. Ofcourse it can still happen but I'm getting vibes that it won't. Personally it doesn't bother me because I bought the console for the games and I'll enjoy it anyway, but it's disappointing to see such lack of ambition on Sony's part at the start of this race.

If anyone is considering buying an Xbox 360, you honestly won't be disappointed. It can be faulty, yes that's a big negative for the gaming experience it's fantastic and no one should be surprised by how well it's doing. I'm not negating the PS3 here but Xbox 360 fans have alot to enjoy and I think some PS3 fans ignore this fact. It get's too much hate from people because Microsoft are the underdogs in the industry compared to Sony - who owned this industry 2 years ago. But you gotta give credit where it's due.

I feel like b!tch slapping Sony executives for their arrogance and I hope the next-gen will be better because both of these companies have learnt alot this generation.

[TheHater]

While I do agree with you. The ps3 haven't even been out year now and it sold over 5.5 million units with a few good games. I do beleive that Games such as Uncharted, and Ratchet and Clank will improve PS3 sales in both the US and Europe. Most people are waiting for games such as MGS4, Killzone 2(killzone was a hit in Europe), and Little Big Planet.

[Meus Renaissance]

Thing is, that only means the PS3 installbase will grow. But what people forget is that the 360 installbase will also grow. I admit the PS3 has done reasonably well considering the competition and the elements of disadvantages it's had to burden, but the only reason for why the 360 outsold it this year was mainly because of price and games.

That now has changed. The games are coming and the price has decreased. So why won't people still be interested in the console?

One thing I can tell you is that in the UK there is hardly any advertising. No marketing from Sony, and if you ever do see a commercial, it's usually about Blu Ray or "This is Living". Which are crap need I remind you.

SCEE suck and they'll ruin the PlayStation brand there. What are they sitting on, seriously? Go tell people about the price drop, advertise the games, spend millions and millions if you have to.

[mesh1]

im from uk GOLDERDREEN and when i came on this site and heard ps3 was doing awsome in th euk i laughed as every single 1 i know which is alot + the amount of ppl i see playing xbox games from the uk is astonishing u here more brits than americans.

[TheHater]

I agree with what you said. Sony need to wipe out the SCEE and replace it with some people that will actually help advertise the dame console. Why don't don't sony just Take the US commercial and put it in Europe also. But just change the price at the end and some of the games

[Ju]

I think it is not that bad. R&C didn't really sell that bad either. It sold equally as AceCombat6. With half the install base of machines. That ain't to bad. Both game will attract a certain demographic, if you look what sold more so far, that's usually a shooter, a sports- or a music game (and the hype surrounding these).

The numbers for the PS3 are normal - in that early state, I might think. It is just, that the other consoles sell very well. Usually for a reason. Game saturation is just higher, the Wii combines its price point with the expanded target group.

Competing against the Wii is IMO off the radar, the 360 will clearly be the competition, with the price advantage and the bigger games library. I believe this will shift in later life cycles when the PS3 library will grow, the price will go down even more and the additional features will weight more (simply because the high def market is just in the beginning).

I think there's no need to rush. Sure, more sales would be appreciated, but as a gamer, I can't really complain. I get pretty much everything I want. Especially because I am a PlayStation gamer I do not necessarily wait for even more shooters but for a little bit more E rated games (I have kids), not necessarily kiddy games, but R&C is fine, Jak will hopefully come and maybe Sly will have a comeback, eventually AceCombat needs to be back on the PS (or I really need to buy me a 360). Combined with Resistance, CoD, Haze, TimeShift, Army of Two, UT3, Battlefield, TimeCrisis, and not to mention MGS4 and KZ2 the shooter genre is covered. RPG...some are out there (I still like Hackn'slashn thru Dark Kingdom and Folklore ain't bad, but, true FF is missing).

And then, put the constant bad press into relation, I think it ain't selling that bad at all. A lot of people might have expected the PS3 to blow away the 360, but honest, that would have needed the DB-HD-DVD war to be over before launch (or close to), a 1GB RAM machine, an 8800Ultra 512MB in there, a 4x BD drive and a ultra fast 120GB HD. And that all for < $299 - at least it seems to be the general perception. Well, instead we now have a $399 BD+40GB+WiFi machine.

[andy001]

There are a few good releases coming out this Friday, with Lair, Ratchet and Clanck, Simpsons, Call of Duty 4, and so I suspect that the PS3 will still increase its sales, whether that will be more than the 360, who can tell. The 360 is still selling because of Halo3, and they have built a lot of momentum over the year, commanding more retail space in the stores

I personally believe that the PS3 is still selling to a more mature demographic than the 360, and if it is simply parents buying consoles for children then the 360 will likely extend its lead this christmas, but then the ps3 will sell more throughout 2008 as the games are released, and gamers choose to buy a PS3 in addition to their 360 or to replace their PS2. It is all about the games and many people will wait for the premier titles like GTAIV and Gran Turismo V, especially whilst the PS2 is still selling so well and games are being released for it.

[lonestarmt]

man, I guess its going to take more to turn things around. As a sony fan I"m a little worried, but I know when the word gets out more, more people see that commercial, and when MGS4 and killzone come out, things will turn around, but I think the media already has done their damage meus. Look at uncharted and R & C is obviously superior in graphics to anything on the 360 and the ps3 is only been out for a year. Fall of man looked better than halo3 and it was a launch game. I know graphics isn't everything but still. I just think so much crap and spit has been thrown at sony for so long that started with the xbox being released that now its stuck with a few people. I mean they say its too much money, well now its about the same price as the 360. There is no games, there are not, so they say there isn't any great games. Well now you have rachet and clank, fall of man, and soon uncharted. So they say multi platform games are weaker, well look at call of duty 4, elder scrolls, and graw 2. There are not excuses not to get one, unless you flat out hate sony or don't have a job. Look at this very site, xbots are posting fake stuff as 40% failure rate on the 40 gig ps3, it isn't haven't been out but for a few days in america. There are fanboys from both camps, but for some reason people take what M$ say has the truth. There is just too much slander from the media. This month however it looks like its starting to turn around, but its going to take more than a good month to over come the slander for two years. The xbots are so quick to put the final nail in the ps3 soo much that even when the ps3 matches the 360 in sales they say its over. When one game comes out in Japan on the 360 sells well, they say haha sony is dead there its on the raise, when almost every other game out sells almost every game on the 360 very badly.

I'm just so sick of this crap Meus Renaissance!! I was thinking of getting a 360 during the summer during the game drought, because I'm a gamer and don't want to miss out on any games, plus by then I hope the red ring of death will be over, but seeing how 360 fans just destroy and have false claims constantly against the ps3 never admitting anything postive for sony ( I admit sony fans do it too, cough nasim) They are just blinding following M$ even when turning away from a 1/3 bad system rate, and trade it in several times and still never get pissed at them, they still will defend M$ to their death and can never see what sony is offering, just makes me not want to get a 360 anymore...

[Shadow Man]

isnt out in Europe ? in the german amazon store the game is available on the 11th of November and also in my local games store the game is not available until now.

[Snukadaman]

Everyone had their eyes on sony when they released their console at 600$. There was always talk of the potential that the ps3 had...how it was suppose too be the console of choice in many multiplatform games....madden comes along and breaks that myth...now pes 08 broke the myth in europe...I said all along..if you cant get madden right..what chance do you have with any game worth playing.....no amount of propaganda or hyperbole can bring the ps3 out of this slump I think...people such as myself have been watching only delays and problems with games on the ps3 and wonder when will be a good time too pick up a ps3..the ps3 was sonys cheap alternative to bringing the masses too blu-ray...sadly gaming was a after though. Now come a year and their highest ranking game is also on the competing console..that also happens too have more games...you look at consumers and you have too ask yourself why bother buying a ps3..too little too late indeed.

you even read what I wrote kid...ps3 had their chance with madden..many people seen it as being a mess and moved back too ps2...notice how ps2 madden is outselling the 360 version...those were potential ps3 buyers...after all these months of being out and the ps2 madden is still selling...same thing in europe with many people going too ps2 pes..those potential ps3 buyers...open up your eyes and quit being a fanboy yourself...you aint buying a xbox because of what their fanboys say...stick with ps3...theres enough morons on xbox live ..you adding too that population only sours the experience.

you honestly think I dont know that sony didnt make madden..look kid..the game is on the ps3.....everyone stays away from the ps3 version...thats what I was saying...I was playing madden when the biggest upgrade was when a abulance would run over the players...my point is those people that are buying those extra ps2 maddens right now were potential ps3 owners..who after seeing how terrible it was on ps3..they are content with their ps2...I guess i am a idiot on xbox live as well..considering i dont talk but play I cant see how anyone knows...and too let you know..alot of charger fans dont like norv either..specifically for those reasons of not using LT more...but as long as we beat the raiders each year our season is golden...

just so you know..I will be purchasing a ps3 when GOW3 comes out..maybe MGS4 if its worth it...blind fnaboys dont do such things..they just sit on one console and complain..

[lonestarmt]

well that multiplatform thing is a thing of the past now. And there are games for it now. Gosh why can't you people see that. There a lot of games on it now. You using madden as your example? like those games are huge achievement.lol. Its the same damn game over and over and over really. You guys are singing the same song and its not the truth anymore. Anyone who can't look at rachet and clank, heavenly sword, uncharted and not see why the ps3 is graphicly superior is just plain baised and blinded. This is just the first gen of games for the ps3, and blu-ray really is the true HD exp. When you can't get madden right? give me a break, sony didn't make the game EA did, look at rachet and clank and fall of man, great games both came out in the same year. Its possible, its so freaking obvious that they make it on the 360 then port it over, and if they make it for the ps3 then port it over, you would get better results. The same thing happened on the xbox and ps2 if people could just remember. Yeah sony over priced itself and didn't make it clear to people why it was worth it, and now have to make up ground, but its clear that 360 rushed it out the door and didn't make a quality product. Why the forgiveness for one company and not the other?? total fanboyism.

edit: yeah I read what you wrote old man. What an xbot resorting to name calling again? oh shocking. Yeah there tons of idiots on xbox live, I guess you are another one of them. lol. Read mine. Obviously you don't know that much about game development. Sony didn't make madden, they didn't miss anything it was EA sports that messed up. If sony fans should be mad, they should be mad a EA for their half @$$ing things. Your really good at making dumb guesses. You don't know why I don't have a 360 yet. I love rpgs and jap devs, so I didn't buy one because I thought it was going to be the same lame support like last gen. I'm starting to see that the 360 was picking up more jap support and rpgs like mass effect and lost odyssey so it would be worth me picking a 360 up for that. I"m not a idiot fanboy like you, I would have to be silly not to see the 360 is picking up steam on the jap dev front. However ps3 still has the most, and thats why its worth picking up a ps3 for. Whats your reasons for not picking up a ps3? the games suck, their are no good games, sony sucks? har har har. How about your chargers? giving up the most rushing yards to team in nfl history or letting your defensive cordinator go to the cowboys who now are 7-1, and your team picks up norv turner who has one of the worst win-loss record for head coaches in the league who doesn't seem to know how to use the best running back in the game. Real smart. (lol I know low blow)

[bababrooks]

great post meus , the games are what makes a good gaming machine. even with the rrod problems ms has had, the 360 still sells well.
i do think things will get better for sony but will it be to late?

[TheHater]

Well the ps3 is in for a big week this coming week. Europe will be have games such as Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Call of Duty 4 and other. I think those games will move some ps3 units over there.

[Hugh Hefner]

First off, you are crazy for mentioning Lair. Second, Ratchet & Clank is a great game, but it has failed to secure many buyers, at least in NA so far. Third, Call of Duty 4 is on the Xbox 360 as well.

[lawman1108]

Save your money my English friends this game is LAME.

[andy001]

The 360 has Yaris. Please do not tell us that 360 owners do not buy crap games. Lair will sell because it is a game with a dragon on the cover, the same as Eragon sold. Kids love dragons.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Yaris is a free game that was paid for by Toyota...

So, umm...I dont care if its a crappy mini/arcade game...it was free.

[ActionBastard]

Nothings free. Your $54 (w/tax) XBL subscription paid for your "free" Yaris game.

EDIT: I guess you didn't pick up on the direct/indirect effects in my statement.

[darthv72]

silver members get the game free too. So in reality the game really is FREE. Crap, but free. Big misconception to the paid membership of live and the free.

Gold members, $50 a year gets you multiplayer gaming with the retail games. All content on live and live arcade is available to both Gold and Silver members. So 90% of a Silver membership is the same as Gold. Even live arcade multiplayer is supported. Only retail multiplayer (like COD4 and Halo 3) requires the gold membership.

Just FYI in case anybody didnt know the REAL difference between "FREE" Silver and "paid" Gold.

[lynx1halo]

PS3 sales last week plummeted back to where they were before????
PLUMMETED?? HIGHLY OVER-DRAMATIC ...AND OBVIOUS SONY HATE

[predator]

read the description and read the article, they are the same so dont give me that fanboy crap, i never change the title or desription of an article

[macsto]

As expected.

[razer]

the numbers are going to settle back down right before the holidays. Once the Christmas shopping season kicks into full swing the numbers are going to go back up. With the AAA titles coming like Uncharted and the 08 line-up the numbers will not look this low again.

[lawman1108]

And Blue Ray

[xplosneer]

especially the Wii...If people can get one. Although I applaud Sony...even though there was no XMB in game themes are sweeter than I thought they would be and Media Streaming is here. What a day tomorrow will be! Watch sales start exploding for all three over the holidays. Gaming has changed since 06. It's way more popular now. (Applauds Wii and Halo 3 for that)

[tuffco]

You guys are bunch of un educated kids, Be prepared for 08 children it is going to be a massacre with Home, Killzone, GT5P, MGS4 and all the other killers Sony has lined up. IT IS THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM mark my words you bunch of mutts.

[squallsoft]

yea, one needs to look at the monthly total to get a clear picture. also, the ps3 is still maturing. how quickly people for get that the n64 pwned the psone during its launch year and that the dreamcast pwned the ps2 during its launch year. how quickly people forget how things can turnaround in this industry. too many kids/teens running around quoting numbers and stats and opinionated news articles. if one wants a clear picture, one only needs to look at history to know that all successful consoles (including the NES, SNES PSone, Gameboy) have all struggled out of the gate but still ended up on top. Another interesting side note: Only one Major Franchise has ever determined the dominance of a console. that franchise is Final Fantasy. look at it like this:

The console leaders of yesteryear:

NES - Final Fantasy 1,2,3
SNES - Final Fantasy 4,5,6
PSone - Final Fantasy 7,8,9
PS2 - Final Fantasy 10,11,12

Another interesting note: square decided to release Final Fantasy 7 on the PSone BEFORE the market shifted into Sony's favor.

Also, if developers solely followed the install base as a leading factor onto which console their exclusives will find their home, how come Final Fantasy wasn't made on the Sega Genesis at its height (when it was pwning the SNES)?

History tells us that this console war is far from oer. Lets just see what the playing ffeild looks like in 2009, because no sooner than then, will a true winner be decided...

[sleepbox]

Maybe the older consoles apply to the FF rules but if you look at last gen...the top selling series was GTA by FAR....NOT FF

[karlostomy]

Did i just read a story that the 360 is matching the ps3 sales in japan?
Did i just read a story that PS3 sales are dropping in UK, while 360 is steady?

uh-oh....

Now where are all the sonyfans who were trolling just yesterday?
"Spankiddy, spankiddy, spank, spanky, spank!"
(the sound of one 360 hand clapping a good spanking on the ps3)
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http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
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edit at JU:

Yes, i agree 360 will most likely NOT win Japan.period. But Japan is such a tough nut to crack for MS. That's why the news is so unexpected....

[TheHater]

Where is that article that the 360 sales is matching the ps3 sales in japan? The ps3 is sell around 18K-20K units a week. While the 360 sell around 2.5K -50K a week

[xsteinbachx]

i hardly see xbox360 matching ps3 sales, and to see the ps3 have 2 million sales to 4 million sales in only 1 year in europe? i hardly see that as sales dropping.

http://www.totalgamerzone.c...

Latest Japanese Hardware Chart
Posted by Jesse, 5 days ago Nov 1, 2007 21:26

From DS to 360 all consoles are up this week, while not much it is still better than a loss.

1. DSL 76,243
2. PSP 59,792
3. Wii 27,502
4. PS3 18,785
5. PS2 11,698
6. Xbox360 3,718
7. GBM 64
8. GC 58
9. GBASP 41
10. DS 30

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

EU

Console Weekly Total
DS 177,772 17,540,509
Wii 111,300 3,866,326
PS3 73,614 1,953,642
PS2 70,057 44,272,772
PSP 51,757 8,641,209
x360 38,212 3,860,039
GBA 5,634 21,296,451
Total 528,346

[Ju]

I agree. But you forget, that the 360 did neither win Europe nor Japan yet. Japan can be a fluke for the 360. It was AceCombat after all and it didn't push the 360 above PS3 level (I'm curious what our Japanese friends play there on the PS3, actually...they need games as well). And you forgot to mention, that in the overall "other" region the PS3 still outsells the 360.
As for the US, the sales grew about 23% to above 55k which ain't to bad either. Far away from 130k, but still higher then the bad sales over the summer (~30K). Its tough, though, sure. The 360 is on the role, and it probably will keep it up. We'll see if the PS3 can catch up over the holiday season.

[xsteinbachx]

if you really want to see what they play create a japanese account. that's how i got GT5 Demo, but they got some weird stuff on there.

[xm15e2s]

The Playstation's glory days are over.

[Real gamer 4 life]

Sony is a stupid company, they make the most stupid decision ive ever seen in ma life time. i could run that company better then they can. First mistake they release a 600 dollar system, they should had released te 40gb ps3 first then release the 80gb. Second they let all their exclusive go. they should hve know that they must keep these game exclusive, but they let them go. third they didnt advertise the machine well, there commercial was horrible. I am not counting the ps3 dead in the water yet because with heavy hitter releasing next year, this thing might all turn around in the blink of an eye. and remember sony has only one year in the market and 7 months in other countrys.

[Xbox is the BEST]

Play Beyond

[SimmoUK]

It's Sony's first year people, Microsoft had there first year now sony's having there's, 8 days, the getaway, killzone 2, little big planet, MGS4 still all to come next year on PS3 only...

PS3 and Sony aint going anywhere with that line up nevermind how you want to spin it...

[ps3gogetitt]

What will you and tuffco say when all those games show and all it does is give the ps3 a 250000 system sales spike and then drops a few weeks later , we need to keep sony accountable and stop rubbing our noses in the ass, I am tired of waiting.......

[sjappie]

that they came out late, with the delays and all. That lame excuse doesn't fly.

[Ju]

Waiting for what exactly ?

[black28]

Uncharted will sell worse than Ratchet and Clank.

[xm15e2s]

I gotta laugh at all of the people that were acting like Ratchet & Clank was going to sell 40,000,000 copies.

[R0l3]

We get this sort of news nearly every month, who cares? This is just a splash in the ocean for Sony.

[SimmoUK]

exactly they've even said before they're going to take criticism to say i told you so in the long run...

There are so many exclusive title's in the pipeline in the coming years and everyone knows that, we haven't seen them alot yet because they want to give certain titles the spotlight at the right times...

I meen can you imagine how many killer aps there will be by holiday 08 it's crazy to think...

[cow moolester]

Well in 2 weeks the Ps3 will of been out a year and has only managed to sell 6 million units in that time...

[TheMART]

We can simply say, what we knew in front and have seen with the price drop in July:

short peak in sales. Why? There are always groups of fanboys that didn't jump in at 600 EUro/Dollar, but will jump in at 500 Euro/Dollar. Other groups still waited and had their buy @ 400 Euro/Dollar. One problem: the structural sales.

The 360 sells constantly on a steady rate and outsold the PS3 in Europe (especially most important market: UK) for 2007 besides July and the past week or two.

Microsoft will give the final blow just before Christmas, lowering the price of the 360, the 360 Premium will hit 279 to 299 Euro/Dollar for sure. Prepare yourself to see the battle of two giants, like Sony was up against Nintendo in the 90's. Sony = the new Nintendo. Arrogant, slow moving, not able to catch up.

[xplosneer]

One thing is when does the price get low enough that it isn't just all Sony likers?
Oh, and with the last part, still a great console nonetheless.

[Snukadaman]

Those people were buying up the 60 gigs when they were thinking they were going too be discontinued...look for NA sales too be on par.

[squallsoft]

who disagrees with my above comment. you must be a preteen

[Real gamer 4 life]

Sony will sell 6 million in one year. its not dead yet but they have to act fast.

[ps3gogetitt]

For my system and I am still waiting till 2008, why oh Why did I buy my system in 2007 if I have to wait until 2008............I am tired of defending sony. let them lose the generation, I hope they come in third. In it for the long run.... What is everyone going to say when 2008 comes and ps3 is still behind in sales to the other 2 consoles..... WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT and WAIT some more.......

[xm15e2s]

Exactly, by the time the PS3 gets some decent games, Microsoft will be releasing an even better system.
I am gaming NOW, and that is why I purchased a 360.

[Baba1906]

you should stop waiting buy some games and play =D dude what are u waiting for? play warhawk. play r&c, play Hs, play NGS, play resistance, play folklore, soon play uncharted, COD4, UT3, tekken online update, the list goes on and on and on. stop crying and enjoy.

[HarryEtTubMan]

PS3 has only been out 7 months in Europe... and a year everywhere else.....the 360 has releaes ALL the HUGE GUNS and like last week... out sold it by about 50,000 consoles worldwide?? Doesn't sound like the PS3 is sinking anywhere. You just want to believe that... Sales will begin to rise exponentially soon. It will happen. Everyone I know wants a PS3. It's been a tougher first year than Sony thought it would be, I think. But this doesn't dictate the future in any way... Unless you're some kind of psychics and can see the future. The PS3 is here to stay and barely losing the console race for now. Game on.

PS3GOGETIT: Your a moron.... so I guess you ONLY play playstation because u think its going to be first and not because you like the nicest, most reliable gaming console on the market?? Sounds like your losing it, buddy and are WAY to wound up in this console game. No matter how anyone wants to spin it... the gap between the 360 and PS3 isn't widening anymore... maybe they lose by 150,000 this month worldwide... and then win by 70,000 worldwide... then lose by 100,000.... The gap is BARELY EVEN MOVING. You sound like you think what these retards say is actually real.. The 360 sold out the PS3 by about 1,000 units in the UK with a cheaper console and more games. It should be doing this. If it wasn't things would be looking good for the 360... and this doesn't mean its going to stay this way. SOOO FUNNYYY

[highfoot]

Cow Moolester:
"Well in 2 weeks the Ps3 will of been out a year and has only managed to sell 6 million units in that time..."

Well, it's the half of the X360 numbers. Pretty good, don't you think? Why should PS3 sell as much now when it took 360 over two years to get there themselves? If you think like that, it's not to bad. PS3 will have it's time.

And a comment on the subject. Is UK the only country in EU/others? No, PS3 still outsells X360 in this region by over 10 k. So try to bash PS3 somewhere els. Maybe at the US numbers, there you have a reason to comment.

[sjappie]

only, there comes a point where it might be too late for ps3, as consumer and developer interest gets more focused on 360, because of the, non-decreasing gap in the userbases.

@ below. I'm not saying that ps3 will die, but it will never win this gen. And I think the gap will get bigger in MS favor, because they are the most interesting party for game developers already(2x userbase, very high attach rate), cause there is more money to be made. And that will grow exponentially.

[Ju]

Even if the gap remains constant, in relation to the absolute numbers the gap will become smaller (e.g. 35 to 41 Mio in contrast to 6 vs. 12Mio ? Who cares).

I doubt that the studios will abandon the PS3. If they are unhappy, they would have done it already. There is nothing to loose anymore. Most of them have their middle ware set up, the dev cycles already include a process to create PS3 games. What that means, and AFAIR Ubi stated, that the additional version costs them 10% now, rather then the original 20% to setup a PS3 environment. If the gap gets smaller or not is irrelevant (I personally hope it will become smaller - or PS3 fanboy as I am - I hope the PS3 will take over at some point), but what matters is, do you make money selling a PS3 version or not? And this is clearly a yes. Sony most probably will have an install base of 10-15Mio by this time around 2008, no matter how you want to see that.

I can agree, however, for some studios, who are already late on the PS3 train, and have not the resources to setup a complete new PS3 dev process, this will even be more difficult. I still think the PS3 has more potential. Now that the tech is there, I think 2008 might as well see more content. First in first party games, and later in multiplatform games as well. Should that be the case, there will be a significant difference between the 360 and the PS3.

The only one who can kill the PS3 is Sony themselves. If they decide its not worth it at all and they'll find out, the a standalone BD player and HD TV and notbook, and what not makes more profit. (I doubt that will happen, though).

[ps3gogetitt]

IS a fanboy signing off sony's brigade, and off N4G becuase I am tired of all your dumb and blind arguments for sony.... MS (even though I hate your money hungry guts) blow them away please...........

Officially no longer a fanboy.

it was fun while it lasted, by spg, can do it no more. SONY U SUCK...TIME TO LINE UP FOR MASS EFFECT

[Hugh Hefner]

Congrats man... I was once a Sony fanboy too. I jumped ship when I played a 360 for the first time and realized how awesome it was, and that Sony lied to me when they said "next-gen doesn't starts until we say so"... it started two years ago with the Xbox 360.

[sjappie]

We could use some more people that can be reasoned with.

for the disagreers. What, you want the guy to leave n4g, now he "betrayed" you?

[razer]

Hope you don't decide to leave the site you seem to be a bit more balanced(and realistic) in your opinions.

Just get yourself a 360 and keep your PS3 that's what I did and it is the best gaming experience you can have.

[fredy]

don't leave just yet, I heard sony promises to add in-game XMB on the next update...wait a minute, if you got a 360 welcome on board, that feature been there since it was born.

What let down this morning

"it took you 6 freaking months to add backgrounds and remote play."

Sony who gives a hoot about remote play, do they think everybody own a PSP? Who gives a sh*t.

[SimmoUK]

ha ha ps3gogetit is losing the plot you've all finally got to him...

On a serious note I'm loving WarHawk, Pro Evo, Ratchet, Heavenly Sword maybe you just can't please some people :)

[Baba1906]

i agree warhawk is the most amazing online game ever. you wanna fly a warhawk do it, you wanna drive a tank? sure why not, you wanna run around with a flag? yay do it, it goes on and on and on and on =D. cant wait for some new content, it will make it even better. =D

[mazirjones]

hell yeah warhawk is nuts

[radzy]

if thats the best ps3 has to offer , than i will also agree that ps3 is in massive troubles.....the best game on the ps3 is a 700mb demo download... are you serious?.... warhawk..huh ..... what a joke of a game.

[cow moolester]

I love Warhawk and Heavenly Sword...Warhawk= Best flying game ever made

[mighty_douche]

....*yawn*...

[xsteinbachx]

ya all it leads is to stupid fights. it just annoys me though when you get retards people saying this is dead your machine sucks blah blah blah.

if people hate it so much why do they have to talk about it so much.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

in Europe PS3 and XBOX 360 are neck and neck. The PS3 gets a spur in sales because of price drop but it still costs more than 360.

[xsteinbachx]

how i don't need to buy a battery charger.. batteries.. HD dvd player, remote to watch the movies. the 20 gb harddrive for 100 bucks? ripoff, and to pay just so i can play online. last time i checked all i needed to buy was.. oh wait the machine..

@33.2

every ps3 had to buy hdmi cords, but they arnt pricey.. if you bought a monster cable your a fool. all you have to do is look on the internet, and find a 6ft hdmi cable for 4 bucks that is 1.3 compatible.

www.monoprice.com

[razer]

and an HDMI cable, the 40gig versions doesn't even come with a basic component cable.

[Meus Renaissance]

Lol @ some of the comments here. If people decide to sell their PS3's, PM me please I might be interested in some of your games for cheap.

[xsteinbachx]

i 2nd this.

[karlostomy]

I'd buy a cheap ps3.

[xm15e2s]

The PS3 has games? When did this happen?

[Ju]

^^ Dude, I don't know why would you even care. Obviously not interested anyhow.

[Baba1906]

i dont think sell numbers are that important anyway =D. ds is outselling psp like a crazy frog on drugs, but psp still has some amazing ultra nice games. just becouse one console does bettter than the other wont kill anything. this generation there isnt the same effect than in the last one with xbox beeing really messed up. this time all three are doing ok to great. we should enjoy that. competition is a great thing. so dont insult people. we will all have a very good generation. =D

[sandip787]

goodness golly gosh, if you people think the ps3 is dead then the next few months are gonna be a rude awakening for you.
i dont dispute the fact that ps3 isnt doing very well, in comparison to 360, and i can appreciate why with the launch of halo 3 and mass effect.
i can bet that the ps3 sales will fluctuate from time to time, but in the whole scheme of things i think it will narrow the gap considerably.
im not writing off the 360, it just does my head in that people are saying the ps3 is dead.

[Real gamer 4 life]

I am just tierd of waiting, ma patence is wearing out. Sony dissapointed me. i wasnt going to get 360, but know i think i may have to. i am just too tierd of waiting, i dont like microsoft but sony doesnt have anything to offer me till next year. i bought ma ps3 for 500 bucks and the only game i truly enjoyed was ninja gaiden and rachet and clank. i want all the 2008 game line up now, but all they do is delay all the games. I was looking forward to home but they delayed that too. i am tierd of waiting.

[cellypower]

I am having a fun time with my ps3/blu ray player.

[Baba1906]

i agree, me too. =D

[367 To Your Ass]

it's even slower than 360's dvd player. "no offence intended"

I'm guessing why sales have drooped for all of the consoles is because most people are saving up for chrismas.......just a hunch thats all.

(Baba1906) it's not going to show during movies but in game play it will (loading times)

[Baba1906]

slower? how does that matter if it doesnt show. =D i have seen a lot of bluray movies and i allways really enjoy them. so if u hadnt told me it is slower, than i wouldnt even have noticed it. u know what i mean ?

[FPS nut]

So when is the PS3 supposed to take over the market? because all I see now is they are doing a piss poor job.

[power of Green]

No kidding. I'm ignored by 120 people because I'm a 360 supporting Nastrodomis.

Only the most sheltered and stubborn Nations will continue to favor PS3 for nothing more than it being a PS3.

I agree with Number one(#1)

[rayc0013]

My wife bought me a PS3 last christmas have yet gone a week without playing. There are fun games for it if you really sit down and play. Also in the artical its says they use vg charts numbers, i thought they were not reliable. Any way all three systems have there plus and minuses it just comes down to what you want in a console. Enjoy your system whatever you get.

[beoulve]

wow, wassup with the PS3 bashing. They seems to enjoy it here.
Low sales, 40% Failure, XBOX 360 on par with PS3 in Japan. All I see here is alot of XBOX 360 owner going crazy. I can understand why, I played HALO 2 and 3 alot. most of the XBOX 360 owner enjoyed trash talking alot, some are really really bad, I guess they bring the same attitude here as well.

[power of Green]

"hate to spoil your xbot party, but this is only uk"

Did you read the title of the new's story I think everybody knows that. No need to hate.

[Gahigiddy]

But VGcharts and all that is ignored for a reason. They're guessing wildly. Of course PS3 sales will be much higher than 360, it's 299 now! Duh Anyone who says otherwise (xbots) needs a healthy dose of arsenic.

[FPS nut]

The cheapest PS3 is $400

[dude_uk]

dude...

pounds sterlin (UK) £299

[solar]

everytime fanboys argue...baby jesus kills a kitty...sniffle...

[PS3 Limps on and on]

the only thing that matters is North American sales

XBOX fanboys don't mention that according the VG charts PS3 sales are up %26 higher than any other console. This is where PS3 has to make an impact. They have to start somewhere. November and December will be crucial. If PS3 doesn't hang in there, then I think it is an early grave for the PS3.

Doesn't matter what happened in Japan with Ace Combat 6.

[ParaDise_LosT]

Basic Math
Say this Item sold only one time today....but the next day it sold %26 Higher
and say another Item which sold 100 items today but only went up 2%

Which do you think sold more the next day?

[PS3 Limps on and on]

I'm talking about PS3 hanging in, not owning. a 26% pickup is still that. A possible sign of it rising

[Pika-pie]

PS3 still beat 360 by 7000 units accross the whole of Europe. So I dont see why Sony fans should be disappointed?

[sleepbox]

Where are all the "AMERIKA IZN'T TEH ONLY CONTREE N TEH WORLD!!!" threads now?

[PS3 Limps on and on]

you know the rules.

[Real gamer 4 life]

The 360 has 2007, but 2008 is all Ps3. The ps3 has the best 08 line up then both wii and xbox360 put together. And no one can argue with that.
Nex year is sony year, microsoft released all their good game on the second year of their console life spam, that is why the xbox360 is selling more than the ps3. But next year sony has the better line up. Everyone is going to want to play mgs4, ff13, ffversus, grant turismo and god of war 3. Also sony sold 6 million ps3 in one year in the Na and 7 months in other countrys. So its not doing horrible at all. this time next year sony will releas its peak games and we shall see a big turn around.

[sleepbox]

I do plan on picking up a PS3 next year.

Ps3 will not going to die in any way, shape, or form but let's be real...Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank are NOT going to move PS3s...Killzone 2 and MGS4? Maybe.

Sony has quite a bit cut out for them before they are going to grab my gaming dollar.

[Marty8370]

Ever thought that retailers are just restocking after selling out.

[dale1]

everyone in the uk wants a ps3 but its the price you can get one for £299 with a game you can get a 360 for £199 or lower
not the same spec but you get a couple of games,one package deal had four games in, the store said it was losing money on all 360,s sold at the moment to counter the ps3 sales
microsoft said it would imburse them on some of the package deals so the games are first party halo gotham etc
most the 360 are core systems sold for the younger generation so they might buy a game now and then he said but the hardcore are switching to the ps3 has they have the better exclusives 2008 onwards

[dale1]

one thing about sales slowing in uk the only consoles in the top 100 at amazon.co.uk is the wi and ps3,amazon germany two ps3 consoles and the wi,amazon france one ps3 and wi no 360,s which is strange
amazon japan has three ps3 in the top 50 and one 360 and of course the wi

[darthv72]

Sega and Nintendo did. The third console syndrom! Sega's third console was the Saturn (not the failed 32X) and it was trounced by the Sony PS1.

Nintendo's third console was the N64 and it too was trounced by the PS1.

In fact if you look at every console maker and see past their 2nd system you will find that it was usually the 2nd gen system that was their highest grossing system. So in most respects the third comes at a loss compared to the 2nd. Mostly due the the much larger install base of gamers who dont want to move past the great games for that gen system.

MS is on their 2nd gen system and this will most likely be the high for them. If Sony follows suit and makes it to a 4th like Dreamcast/GameCube/Jaguar (yes the Jag is Atari's official 4th console) it may spell doom until they try for a 5th (ala Nintendo's Wii).

Maybe Sony can break the 3rd system curse and have it turn around this upcoming year. We will just have to wait and see.

[x440Magnumx]

Before the PS3 stands a chance it needs two games:

Metal Gear Solid 4 and Gran Turismo 5.

People need games they can trust to be great fun before they get into a console, and Sony hasn't given that yet.

Sure, RFOM and Ratchet may be great games, and there may be other good games in the PS3 lineup right now, but nothing is generating enough hype. Nobody really cared much about Ratchet or RFOM that much because they aren't industry big names.

Just look at all the hype around Halo 3 and Mario Galaxy and you'll see my point.

The 360 had the hook in right away with Oblivion, PGR3, and Forza 2, and other sequels because those games had big followings. Now the industry is in the middle of the Halo 3 following joining up with the 360 side of things, which is huge for the 360.

To hook people on IP's like Mass Effect and Bioshock, the 360 needed games people could trust to support it. I'm sure this has a lot to do with why multiplatform games like Guitar Hero III are doing so much better on the 360 as well.

Sony should know this, they did it with the PS2...it's just taken them far too long to polish off their heavy hitters for the PS3.

Hopefully for good competition to keep up, when MGS4 and GT5 come out, the PS3 will pull out of it's slump to meet up with the 360.

With this long of a wait there's no reason for MGS4 and GT5 not to be big system sellers.

[JokesOnYou]

you are definitely the sonykid I thought you were, but you at least have the ability to take off the sony goggles and see reality, I had alot to say until I read your post, that basicly says it all no matter which console you favor your #7 post is spot on, I said in one of my posts the other day, micro simply has the popular opinion/word of mouth on the streets that its a great gaming console, people are impressed, I know on n4g we tend to forget that we are the vocal minority on both sides, all the gaming sites members total is still a tiny fraction of the whole gaming community (console owners and potential owners) and for the most part they have no care for this petty little "war" we speak of= THEY BUY WHAT APPEALS TO THEM THE MOST, and despite what n4g sonykids say, other than the wii, the 360 is thought of by most as the best gaming console= sony has alot of catching up to do, people are sick of promises, sick of talk, don't blame the media, don't blame micro, BLAME SONY.

JOY

[arika]

i wont believe it until i see credible proof. ill just wait for the NPD results and not VGCHARTS because i just checked on amazon uk, just a few minutes ago, ps3 is a little down from their previous ranking but what suprised me was w/ all the sku's available for xbox 360 none of them can be seen on top 100, yup you heard it right xbox 360 is missing in action on video games top 100 and they are saying that it sold more than ps3. yeah right...

i call this the calm before the storm...
and the storms name is uncharted drakes fortune....

[bootsielon]

The UK is the deciding factor in the next-gen console war! Nevermind Japan or the rest of europe!

[Lucreto]

I am hating this generation so far I wish I was still in blissful ignorance when I got the PS2.

360 or PS3, HD-DVD or Blu-ray it is starting to annoy me.

I hate all fanboys on this site with equal disdain. Yes the PS3 is a year behind and the 360 is doing well and the sales are higher that I expected but there is no need to rub it in peoples faces. Thinks can happen like today about the rumour of the 40% failure rate in the PS3 and some people were at a loss for words at the tables had turned and the same could have happen to the 360 if PS3 sales pick up next year.

Well I have a PS3 and before people label me a fanboy and put in on the ignore list I will tell you why.

1. The PS3 has established franchises that I love and 360 hasn't got any that are not mutiplatform.
2. I hate on-line play and 360 seems to be its main focus. I add two or three points on reviews if they had been taken away for no on-line play.
3.Lastly 360 hot games are all shooters and Mass Effect looks good and it will appeal to 360 owners at its an action RPG shooter. I hate racing and shooters and I only have one which is resistance. I might get Haze as it seems to bring something new to the table but I will decide later.

I will admit the the PS3 will end up in third place after FFXIII comes out. With the PS2 FFX release helped to send the PS2 into the success it is now. It these sale and everything in between doesn't boost the PS3 we have entered the era of the Xbox and thats where I will get off. At least I have over 200 PS1,PS2 and PS3 games in total to keep me entertained.

[bootsielon]

This generation sucks. The leading console is just plain HORRIBLE, it's not next-gen. I mean, I really don't care if it gets "many games", the way you play it, and the way the games look and feel, the fact that many next-gen games on it are IMPOSSIBLE to make just really turns me off. I'm not gonna buy a Wii until it's readily available and $99 or less.

And the leading console, which although has a good online service, charges for playing online (even with lag), has died on me 3 times, scratched 3 of my games and killed 2 of my hard drives. Couple that with the fact that, while a lot of good games, MOST OF THEM ARE OF THE SAME GENRE THAT MADE THE FIRST XBOX POPULAR! That is, it's not really different from the first Xbox! Just one japanese game here and there, but even if it does, the lack of blu-ray drive makes the experience inferior to what it should be; LONG GAMES like the ones you found on PS2. That's because next-gen games require a lot more space.

And third, the PS3 thanks to its lateness in... everything, even though hardwarewise it's almost perfect, its games are coming too little too late. I hope it gets at least half as many japanese games as the PS2 got, otherwise I'm gonna have a very dry taste from the game industry in this generation, since games made for the Wii will not be as good as they could be, especially Since Nintendo games steal the spotlight anyway, and Xbox 360 is prone to failures AND it just won't succeed in Japan. Hell, the best bet for Xbox 360 is that Sony somehow finds success in Japan, otherwise great next-gen games won't be ported to Xbox 360, since developers won't even bother making them (And say hello to the dark age of videogames).

Please, Meus Ressistance and others, don't tell me Xbox 360 won't disappoint me, because it has already several times with failures AND with lack of variety of genres. If PS3 doesn't partially succeed this generation, then there will not be another "PS2", at least not soon, definitely NOT this generation, since Xbox 360 will keep flopping in Japan and it's not the state of the art console that PS2 was for its time (yes, the first Xbox was even better hardwarewise, but it failed in Japan and its controller was horrible).

There's still hope for PS3 though. There are a few Sony made games or sony published games that seem to look and feel great in every respect. But if those don't work, then indeed the game industry is doomed as we know it, say hello to acceptable failure rates and an excess of casual games. The only thing good of that is that I'll find more time to work and make money...

[karlostomy]

wow man. life is tough for you huh?

".....has died on me 3 times, scratched 3 of my games and killed 2 of my hard drives"

That is tremendous bad luck dude. Are you sure you're not exaggerating a teensy little bit?

[Primetimebt]

Did anyone catch there source? VGchartz

[Shaka2K6]

This means nothing, dont get all wet over this.

[darthv72]

I dont get this site. First it shows totals of systems and games..sold or shiped? Then you have people saying the numbers are true and then the same people saying they are false. Which is it? Is it true when it is in your favor and false when it is not? It can't be both!

You all act as if the decline of sales is something to seal the fate of Sony. If that were true then the decline of sales in Japan seals the fate of MS but it doesn't. Just be satisfied with the system you purchased and play the games because no manner of words will convince you that you purchased the wrong one. It shouldn't matter to you if the rest of the world likes or dislikes the system. It comes down to the individual decision to own it. You get it for what it gives you. Games that are fun and entertaining to YOU if that is all that matters....and it should.

[Mu5afir]

A BLOG entry isn't NEWS, quoting "VGCHARTZ" as a source isn't credible. Sad Xbots.

[PStriple703]

why do people think a system is gonna kill everything else in it's first year....come on in the 360s first year it was getting compared too the ps2, let's see where sony is in 4 years people are juding way too early in my book

[ActlikeitaintIronman]

they aint playi n halo 3 so they aint got nothing else to do but bash