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UN Fears PlayStation Mentality

A United Nations investigator has called for a halt to CIA-directed drone strikes on suspected Islamic militants, warning that killings ordered so far from the battlefield could lead to a "PlayStation" mentality.

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CrAppleton5089d ago

Giving games a bad name.. again..

Neco5125089d ago

They're always trying to make a bad name for games

ColdFire5089d ago

I agree with what they are saying, but they don't need to bring gaming into it :/

Wrathman5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

if it wasnt games it would be rock'n'roll and playing records backwards or violence moviees and hip-hop.

this article will be shown on the texas school cirriculum.another reason why the UN is bad..they want to kill our playstations!

MONOLITHICIDE5089d ago

Wrathman somehow your wrong, oh thats right people actually think the UN is here for world peace lol.

DaRockSays5089d ago

forever trying to give games a bad name. this is ridiculous. he should be sued by sony for giving the playstation a bad name!

Raf1k15089d ago

I can understand what the investigator is getting at. It's all too easy to target and kill people remotely. The more you do it the easier it gets and it doesn't help that innocent people are getting killed too. IMO killing people like this may be safe but also cowardly. It makes sense to keep your soldiers safe but there's no excuse for killing civilians.

wages of sin5089d ago

What kind of stupid statement is that?

War is the ultimate display of violence and should be done with the least amount of casualties to your side as possible. The whole point and evolution of firearms is to kill from as far away and as effectively as possible. It's called efficiency, not cowardice.

Another dumb ass comment from some dumb ass on N4G, go figure.

Leio5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

“The best way to win a war is to never have started one in the first place.”
( Sun Tzu )

If they really care about casualties and soldiers life they wont start one.
But for some fuck up reason some country just loves to start one after the other efficiency saving lives is just pure bull :/

UnwanteDreamz5089d ago

@ Wages

You think it is about efficiency? That was a dumb ass statement if I ever heard one. Weapons like everything else are about $$$. Wars are about $$$. If what you said was true we would just drop nukes on all our enemies. Long draw out conflicts are good for business. This has nothing to do with saving American lives. You can bet it is about $$$. They paid for these drones and they have to get their $$$ out of them.

madjedi5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

And countless innocent people are killed in terrorist attacks, unfortunately all the targets the military needs to kill aren't in bright orange suits or anything that makes it is.

While it is unfortunate that some (truly) innocent lives are also lost, it's better than risking countless soldiers lives just to get 1 individual. So to say that it is the act of a coward is just ignorant and proves, the people that agreed with you have no idea what your talking about.

Look up the history of warfare you fools, there is always civilian casualties, due to advances in targeting and precision we only need 1 bomb or missile to take out a target vs blanketing an entire area with 100-1000's of bombs as in ww2.

If it keeps us soldiers safe using drones and the un doesn't like to damn bad, video gamers need to stop acting like they actually have killed another person, your not snake.

@wages of sin thank you for being 1 of only 2 people commenting on the article, and actually using your brain and not towing the cliche killing civilians is always wrong no matter the circumstance response.

Apparently 2 dumbasses have never heard of the mad scenario, were talking about target specific elimination here retard not genocide or killing people for the sake of killing.

Raf1k15089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

It doesn't matter who's doing the killing. Anyone whose going to kill innocent people whether intentional or not from somewhere they can't be harmed is a coward IMO.

Killing innocent people is simply wrong. Whether you're a terrorist or a anyone just taking orders doesn't change that.

edit: @ madjedi. I agree with most of what you've said but saying it's cowardly doesn't prove ingorance. I know your point of view and understand your position but IMO these measure need only be taken when there is no other option.

If there is a way to take down that one individual without risking the lives of innocents and without putting too much risk on the soldiers then it should be done. After all, soldiers know that their lives are on the line every day they're in a hotspot. Who would join the armed forces thinking they'd be safe all the time? The risk is a part of their job. It's what they're trained for afterall.

Raf1k15089d ago

What wages of sin says seems to suggest that we should just carpet bomb an area with terrorists in regardless of civilians. Afterall, it ensures our safety and an almost 100% kill rate right? For madjedi (apparently a soldier) to agree to that is just sad.

I'll admit the issue isn't as black and white as some of us would like to think it is (including myself) but it's a shame that innocent people get killed in any conflict.

We can argue for and against for absolutely ages and I'm not against the use of drones as they're a powerful and very efficient tool against any enemy.

I think I should just leave it at that.

Ju5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

"It's easy to claim something is wrong or cowardly from a safe air conditioned building isn't it."

Do you actually really think before you type ?

So, we can condemn or call people out for being in an "safe air conditioned building" to make statements, but it is OK to kill (!) people from a "safe air conditioned building".

Like one thing is more detached from reality than the other.

Intelligence is on the way out, that's for sure.

Darkstorn5089d ago

I completely agree, but he didn't have to bring 'Playstation' into it. As a supporter of the UN, I don't think this guy is using terminology that's going to build support for the institution .

As for gaming making it easier to kill a human being, it's almost impossible to qualify.

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BattleAxe5089d ago

I don't think the UN is giving games a bad name, they just don't want the CIA to treat real life military situations like a video game.......................... By the way, I wonder how many points I could rack up playing Team Deathmatch with one of those drones.

Biggest5089d ago

This isn't about games. It's about a mentality. Using drones is very similar to playing your favorite FPS. "Aww shit! That fucker was camping behind the dumpster. When I respawn I'm gonna knife his bitch ass!" If a drone is shot down, you send another. When a drone kills dozens of people, you send another. When you need a PB&J, you send another. That is the mentality of video games. It is inhumane according to this investigator. And I can see his point. But as a person that has been shot at and injured by an enemy combatant, I can say without hesitation. . . Fuck that. If hiding behind cover is cowardly, I'll think about it when I am home praying for the families of the men that died. But if you think being Rambo is a serious way of dealing with war, please show the world how it's done.

aryan_irani5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

did u even read the whole article? based on ur comment, probably not and same for most people here. all they're saying is that with the increase of technology, war is becomming very video game like, sending all these unmanned predator drones, killing hundreds without even a soldier setting foot in the harms way

ThanatosDMC5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

Sony should sue... wait can Sony do that?

FarEastOrient5088d ago

When did the United Nations start dictating how the United States should use their forces?

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bgrundman5089d ago

A PlayStation mentality? what the hell does that mean?

Neco5125089d ago

Retarded, they think people will just kill because they do in a game?

Ju5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

No. They say you detach yourself so far from the real impact that you loose a feeling of accountability in a maybe not so justified kill.

Since you are behind a video screen the perception is far from reality. It is not real. Possibly giving you the impression like a video game.

With that "distance" and not being directly involved pulling the trigger is just made easy. Too easy as some think. I can agree with that. There should be a certain bar to pull the trigger. This certainly removes that bar.

It has nothing to do with "playstation" as a brand nor does it criticize video games. "Videogames" are used as a metaphor for a what is a more and more becoming a virtual war - with real impact.

DaRockSays5089d ago

I hate when people give gaming a bad name

mrv3215089d ago

Well if I live in one of these countries I would be more worried because the UN took 20 years to arrive and even then they can't shoot back and a ineffective.

Ju5089d ago (Edited 5089d ago )

And shooting back solved which problem, actually ?

I guess you can come up with one, but I guess that was that. What else you got ? And how long are we trying now ?

Rhythmattic5089d ago

It only Does / Kills Everything.

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The Nordic Game 2024 (NG24) Spring conference is to host more than 150 speakers

"While the 20 year anniversary edition of Nordic Game, NG24 Spring's homepage on 21-24 May in Malmö, Sweden, is getting closer, the organizers announced that more than 150 speakers are now lined up for the show." - Nordic Game.

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I Miss When Games Came In Full Package Rather Than Broken Mess Filled With Microtransactions

The gaming industry has drifted away from offering full-fledged games to putting unfinished titles that are jam-packed with microtransactions on the market.

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Christopher2d ago

It's not the fault of the gaming industry. Gamers were told what was happening, were warned about where this would lead, did nothing, and now are acting like it's the fault of publishers that they kept buying these games and investing in MTX. If only those gamers at that time felt as strongly about these things as they do Helldivers 2.

Hugodastrevas2d ago

I don't think MTX target the common gamer but instead predate on the so called "whales". It's gambling pure and simple.

Christopher2d ago

Oh, so it's okay to buy MTX-laden games as long as you don't spend money on MTX, which has led to even more MTX-laden games with even more predatory practices where content that used to be unlocked is now behind paywalls?

C'mon now people. You gave the corporations and inch, and they kept taking and taking. Community members told people that investing in these things alone would only lead to more and more MTX and putting more and more behind paywalls. But it's only the fault of the corporations, not the people who kept supporting it with purchases as more and more was taken away?

Hugodastrevas2d ago

@Christopher that's a straw man, I didn't say any of that I just added context.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Well exactly

People stand up for something which seems small to them and they get called whiners or negative. Then years later the shit hits the fan and they all go “why is this happening?” Like they are innocent.

The issue aswell is younger gamers who grew up with all this thinking it’s normal and we all just look like old farts yelling at clouds when we’re trying to help us all, even them.

Crows901d 6h ago

Who woulda thought that listening to your elders could be a good idea...too late now

Hofstaderman1d 5h ago

It all started with that damn horse armour. Back then I thought nobody was stupid to buy into that crap. How wrong I was....

CrimsonWing691d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I like how people move the goal-post. First it’s, f*ck any game with MTX’s, f*ck GaaS games, f*ck this game with “optional” MTX’s (Dragon’s Dogma 2), Helldivers 2 is ok because it’s fun and even though it has Battle Passes or Season Passes and MTX’s it’s ok because… you don’t need to buy them? 🤷‍♂️

HellDivers 2 is the best selling game this year. Just think about that, games like FF7 Rebirth sold poorly, but a continuous game that lives off recurring revenue sells extraordinarily well. Then we’ll hear everyone b*tch about a GaaS future.

I really wonder what this industry would’ve been like if we never gave into this crap, and yes I’m saying “WE” since I’m guilty of it, but man it’s literally no closing the door once it’s been opened.

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Hugodastrevas2d ago

This is what amazed me the most when playing hours upon hours of stellar Blade version 1.00.00 no bugs, no crashes, no sudden drops in frames, no screen tear, no falling from the world, just a complete package on a game under 50GB.
I think Korea will play a major role in gaming in the long run , because they're releasing banger after banger.

isarai2d ago

Still pretty common to find if you stay away from the AAA publishers, in the last 10yrs ive probably only bought like 3 games combined from EA/ACTIVISION/UBISOFT. Even now i still buy games that work right out the box perfectly fine. Just recently got like 6hrs into Alone in the Dark, and not a single sign of any of that bs, really enjoying my time with it.

shinoff21831d 20h ago

There's such a misconception about every game needing a patch,this and that when in reality it's not even close. You nailed it isarai

Crows901d 6h ago

It's really only AAA devs and publishers that seem to have these constant problems

z2g1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

And we as gamers have to accept our role in that. Constantly never being satisfied. Constantly demanding more while paying less. Constantly demanding better frame rates, better graphics, more modes and faster faster faster…. Then review bombing the product when a demand isn’t met. Meanwhile those same demands are making games more difficult, complex and more expensive to create than ever before, on shrinking timelines that burn out employees and make their lives miserable.

You wanna know why so many games get delayed? Cuz the original release dates weren’t realistic to begin with, but you can’t tell a gamer their game is further away than they want to hear. Some dev or game designer will be threatened physically. That builds even more pressure and rushing. We are officially squeezing water out of rocks and still complaining about that how hard you have to squeeze the rock be just waiting for rain. Most of the time we take it out on the developing studio, when it’s the publisher making the calls.

All you need to do is read the comments on most websites and social media to see how toxic, entitled and petty the gaming community at large is, and realize how that transforms into impossible expectations on the parts of game makers.

Crows901d 6h ago

Nope. Some gamers are to blame. Never demanded anything you mentioned.

A fully finished and functioning product is a standard. It's not demanded. If someone sells you a tv that only works 60% of the time are you going to recommend it OR write a review calling out the obvious problem...it's not a demand...it's a standard.

A standard triple A publishers can't seem to hit consistently.

thorstein1d 4h ago

You've never heard of planned obsolescence.

HankHill1d 1h ago

I take it you like microtransactions? 🤣

Kinza550121d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

This is one battle that gamers have never won, hahaha. They were parading recently for their "win" against Sony. Where's the energy for this one, guys? LMAO!

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Gamescom Latam 2024 has just announced its finalists for the latam BIG Festival event

"The most important games event of Latin America, gamescom latam, has unveiled the finalists for its flagship award ceremony, the gamescom latam BIG Festival, which celebrates the best in the global market of games." - Gamescom.