A few hours before the game went on sale, I spoke to producer Kitase and director Toriyama about battle systems, western RPGs and the possibility of a Final Fantasy XIII-2.
Guys, want to hear something interesting? If you go over at VGCRAP and express your opinion that FF13 SUCKS, you get banned. It's not trolling or going over the top, you just say you don't like the game and bam you get banned. What a bunch of butt hurt h...s
Maybe the ending of Final Fantasy XIII is people start building towns, so we'll finally have towns in the sequel. Or DLC towns for FFXIII.
put all your resources in FF vs XIII please
they should have stick to the ps3!! now the game is ruined and became a multiplatform game!! no more big attention! and the game reputation is ruined too(thank you MS and SE)!!! only hope for the franchise is versus 13 for this gen for SE, if for any reason versus 13 get ruined then the franchise will start dying.
If they do a sequel they have to add npcs, side bosses,side missions,towns, and a world map.
they can't do that unless they ditch the DVD format, they will not want another SO4 situation
Square-Enix is trash. They keep making gay ass games. FFX-2 was one of their worst in company history and they want to make another? Yet have no time for an FF7 remake? Screw these retards.
I thought it would be a boring first 20 hours like all the reviewers claimed, but I absolutely disagree with them. These opening chapters have been very fun, and if the latter half is even better, I can't wait to reach that point. I'd prefer this battle system without towns over any other FF battle system with towns included. Such a small thing to complain, and the crazy thing is that it makes perfect sense within the storyline. Gimped game? I certainly don't feel that way. And if you do...well, my sympathies for you. At the VERY least I see this getting an 8 out of 10. At the very least. I think whoever gave it a 6 or 7 is just really used to open-ended RPGs and considered the linearity to be a game-breaker. It can be a bit overwhelming at times, but not enough to make it go from "good" to "average," imo. Everything else is top notch: fantastic battle system, cast of characters, music soundtrack, and great graphics. Edit: # of disagrees I get = # of fanboys that don't want to accept that this multiplatform game is actually great =) At the guy below me: Nope, you're just living in the past. I don't miss the towns. I don't miss the NPCs. NPCs, really? Haha, really? You're gonna complain cause you can't talk to random strangers for pointless information? I'm embracing these changes and loving them. Are you? No? That's only unfortunate for you, not me, haha.
Lost odyssey did it with 4 discs I assume square can do it with 6 discs. Since disc swapping isnt a big deal that should be ok right? I would definitely pick the 6 discs instead of a bad game. Let microsoft foot the bill. Edit reply to fanboyswillhateme Are you serious? Or are you in complete denial? The game is nothing like past final fantasys. The towns, side missions, npcs, side bosses are all gone. Is this your first final fantasy? YOU ARE THE FANBOY NO ONE CARES THAT IT IS ON 360. FINAL FANTASY FANS WANT A COMPLETE GAME WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND. Yup by your response you are a fanboy. ignore
With loads of high rez textures,FF13-2 will most likely encounter the same situation as SO4. SO4 was especially bad as you have to frequently swap discs back and forth to access new locations. I imagine it will be much worse if they introduce open exploration to FF13. It will make more sense for SE to compromise the open gameplay than to endure the complaints from the 360 camp. On topic,my main gripe with FF13 is that it tries too hard to please the newcomers and alienated the fans in the process. With all the missing content, it's like a half step forward and 10 steps back. They took out the towns,minigames,sidequests,gam bit system and made the first half of the game mind-numbingly linear. And i'm still trying to figure out what exactly were they sacrificed for.
What makes even less sense is the reason they left Nintendo was because the n64 would not have enough storage space. Now 15 years later they decided to go backwards.
that's an...interesting observation...
The nintendo situation was bad though. I have a vhs from those days showing ff6 rendered in 3d for the n64. I remember nintendo stating that square was gonna use a 128 mb cartridge and the games were gonna be $100 or more. This situation is looking very similar.
Wow, so even Kitase seems to have forgotten Final Fantasy's roots... FF13 was Squares last chance for me, I told myself if they failed with this game that I'd give up on them entirely. Lets just say I'm not so optimistic about FFVS13 anymore. The battle system in 13 is pretty damn awesome and the graphics are gorgeous, but everything else about the game just makes me cringe at times. The character interactions so far have been downright terrible and corny as hell. Snow is probably one of the worst characters ever in Final Fantasy, and the rest of the cast isn't all that bright either. And the pacing and storytelling is just nowhere near FF's past gems.
@meepmoopmeep Actually, it would seem that SE needs to invest their cash in better writers. You know, the one's that don't feel that every Role playing game plot needs to have everything including the kitchen sink. @menoyou Hey! That's insulting gay ass games everywhere. @Millah Tell me about it. But then again if you look really hard, the series was beginning to forget itself at about part 8 (actually it was getting partial amnesia around 7).
Im trying to like this games as i have just started playing it, but its turning me off little by little. The characters do not have depth and the dialogue is extremely cheesy and im hating the direction it has taken. I know some people like it but its not for me, sorry guys but i've been a fan of FF for a long time and the changes doesn't feel right as if a lot of things were taken out. You can disagree all you want but i am always fair when it comes to judging games wether its on the other system or its multiplat it makes no difference to me as long as i can enjoy it.
Im on chapter 11 now in the open world. I don't want to play anymore its so boring edit- the linearity problem, people keep saying this and that about how it's alright for gams to be linear. Eh yeah if they're a F***ing fun shooter like Uncharted or CoD. not a FF, I expect more quality from FF titles than other games, not the same S*** in turn based format
@97gsx i think ur the butt hurt fanboy here dude. by what u say in ur comments it seems like u havent even touched FF13 yet. tell me, if ur on the run from the goverment and everyone is out to get you, your face is plastered all over the place, and theres a mark on you that tells others ur a bad guy. would u talk to anyone? would to go to a shop and buy your gear? no you wouldn't. go play the game b4 u start spreading your fanboy logic around. ff13 is a great FF game. its not the best but it is great. im enjoying it and ive played them all excluding the first 2.
LOL at leygo Im a fanboy? Yea I hate my elite 360 and my 60 gb ps3 hasnt seen ff13 yet. I had ff13 preordered for 6 months I had that game on tues morning. I might be a square fanboy but I will not let a company bs me. Your excuses are extremely weak. This gen is so full of masochist fanboys its disgusting. Here some pics for you to be content with.
It's the other half of the game that's missing...
Although I admit it's not the best in the series and I really do miss the towns,minigames,sidequests. Sometimes it just feels very monotonous (long path/corridor, fight, cutscene, rinse/repeat). They really do need to have some towns and minigames at least and it would be nice if we could control all the characters during battle again but I can sort of live with that lose in exchange for the new battle system. After reading this interview now, it's obvious Kitase has forgotten what this series is all about. Please do a new game after Vs13 instead of a sequel or MMORPG, I really want another game that is more like the classic games on the original PS.
Yeah do it Kitase, it will be a day 1 buy 4 me, btw FFXIII is AWESOME.
It is indeed awesome, I'm only 3 hours in but it's progressively getting more fun as I get through all the tutorials.
Same here. About 10 hours in now. Liking the game a lot. Sure it feels a bit diluted compared to older FF games - but I can't stop playing it!! I quite liked FFX-2, so would not say No to a FFXIII-2
i've just unlocked the odin summon and I must say that it is really fun. The beginning was to boring since you just repeated the same attacks over and over but with more attacks, summons, and paradigms I can see battles getting much more interesting. Having said that, XIII is not as good as the past series in terms of story and the battles would be better if you could control all the characters. Also, some of the acting (looking at you vanille) makes me want to ram a screwdriver into my head. XIII-2 is probably the worst move SE can make considering many people will not have enjoyed the game because of the linearity (which I personally don't mind) and so it won't be very successful. A much more economically viable option is to work on vsXIII, then when that's done maybe a final fantasy XV or VII remake.
They can go shovel it back to the hell pit where it came from FF XIII is crap, please let it die now
Sequel? Will we finally see the cut out portion of the game because of some faulty system? lol i kid, i kid...
They will do it to add in all they taken out due to the xbox. Just say it it's the truth...
Who knows how it'll be, we'll see. But let's have it's counter part first before XIII-2, Final Fantasy XIII Versus.
my goodness PLEASE NO! again with singing and dancing ala Ff10x-2. and again gimped down for xbox 360 NO WAY JUST FOCUS ON FFVERSUS13
FFXIII is pretty damn good to me, but I rather have another FF then a spinoff. The FFX-2 news made me rage like no tomorrow in the past.
FF X-2 is my third fav game in the ff series excluding tactics. 13 might take that spot if it gets better. I'm 15 hours in.
As long as they don't try and make lightening a priest then I'm fine with it.
1.) First off they missed the obligatory "Wheres my FF7 Remake" question. 2.) Secondly, in a few of my previous posts I bashed FF13 quite hard but after a few more hours in I have to say that this is definitely a new feeling. The game is much more streamlined but that doesn't mean I want every future FF game to be like this. I've accepted it more and the battle system which was quite infuriating for the first several hours has grown on me. I really like the fast paced battles. I mean the last RPG I played was Lost Odyssey for 360 and the battles there were quite slow so it was a great change of pace. I also keep hearing how beautiful the world is once it finally opens up so thats also striving me to keep going forward.(Because thats the only route this game gives me, get it?!) 3.) Lastly, they missed the obligatory "wheres my FF7 remake?" question.
Drool so awesome this game deserves no hate and lightning is so badass I love launching with her and doing aircombos this game is ten to me this coming from a guy who loves towns in his RPGs.
Call me a pessimist, but I sadly see Versus going to 360. :(
I think so too...but I want to see how it turns out being PS3 exclusive (Graphics potential and AAA status) so we can see if XIII is indeed gimped. If Multi or Exclusive and it turns out average, SE sux, no need to wait for a great game, just an average 1.
Kitase saying there won't be a Final Fantasy XV is bullsht if West sales aren't as good as it has been it's fine because the game already sold 2 mil copies in the East. What Kitase is truely afraid of is if Versus XIII exceeds, it would mean that Nomura would be in charge of Final Fantasy direction in future titles. I see Nomura becoming a permanant producer for future Final Fantasy titles if Versus sells well. I hope Nomura doesn't let me down.
I hope Versus is a full game and also that square back it up as much as 13.
I'm enjoying FFXIII so far and despite the negativity surrounding X-2, I thought that was a great game. If they made FFXIII-2, then thats cool, although they should definatly work on Versus first and put all their time and resources into making that a great exclusive.
what more singing and dancing and quirky jokes like Ffx-2 , NO WAY! and again a xbox 369 gimped down game, NO WAY
"the concept of FFXIII is much more like a first person shooter such as Call of Duty.”" This is when you know there's a problem.
FF 13 is the best SE game in the last 8 years. Go go Kitase!
which is why i want and need Versus XIII to show some new footage.. This game is made by nomura and it looks amazing already.. i cant wait.
Final Fantasy series lost it's way beginning with FFX-2. In my opinion FFX and FFIX where the best. The whole world map navigation the character develop sistem the sub-missions the battle sistem the magic etc.FFXIII is nothing than a linear ADVENTURE game with rpg battle sistem. What is curious is that final fantasy series was great when were made by SQUARESOFT but after they joined forces with ENIX they begin to ruin the series beginning with FFX-2. Another thing that ruin the series is the futuristic look. Where are the armor slot where is the Experience gain for leveling up a character, where is the level per caracter where is the gil gaining after a battle WHERE'S THE TRUE FINAL FANTASY GAME???? BUT all that i say matter ??? i MEAN ALL THAT US THE PLAYERS want from the game and everyday we write down our comments with what we want from a game really mater ??? i say no because the developers are to arrogants to listen the players. Good day to you all.
Cutting out the 60 hours worth of side missions, towns and extra content was a terrible idea. They should've just released it on the Blu-ray and given the console owners a choice, get the COMPLETE version on PS3, or the not-so-complete version on 360. Because in essence thats the choice they have to make right now anyway.
...please, just no J-pop.
is Enchanted Arms with better graphics and no towns. It's playable, but not epic the way FF should be. And it's because SE Westernized it. That killed it. A sequel won't do any good. Besides, FFVSXIII is already being made, so we don't need FFXIII-2.
i love the idea....FFXIII is instant classic
They were trying to accomedate the western world, they saw linear games and thought that this would impress us more. I guess it doesnt since most of you act like little girls who just got your period. They were trying something new for us, not like this style of gameplay will take over the entire series.
They could have saved themselves a lot of headaches if they would, you know, LISTEN!! The fans would have told them if they thought it was a good idea or not, but SE are notorious for thinking that they know what's best for the users. This proves that they don't. Sometimes the old adage of "if it's not broken, don't fix it" is correct.
I hate fighting the same monsters using the same strategy. I hate having my main die, and it's game over. Right now I'm in chapter 6 and they don't even know what to do, seem like at the beginning they had a pretty good focus find ragnoroke and kill it. Killing monsters is easy but sometime it takes too dam long.
Cause if you just upgraded your weapon yeah your going to die alot.
I am up for a sequal for 13 aslong as it is not like FF X-2 but I want to be able to play FFVS13 before the end of 2010
Air combos for the win. best rpg this generation.
i wouldnt mind it :) they have enough stuff left over from the first game they didnt use to make it so they should.
I can't believe the slating this game is getting , i'm only on chapter 5 but i think it's excellent ,SE should be getting commended for having the guts to change the tried and tested formula. For a long time now reviewers in this part of the World have been moaning about JRPG's always following the same "tired" formula and that WRPG's are now far superior , what happens when a Japanese developer changes ? , they start slagging it off for not being like the rest of the series , seems to me that it wouldn't matter what SE released , they were going to get slagged off anyway. I am playing it on PS3 and get the feeling that a lot of folks are still annoyed that the game went multiformat and that's enough for them to hate it/ not give it a chance.
yea, ff13 is a good game. I agree completely with your thoughts on that it's getting bashed for changing yet reviewers are always knocking jrpgs for always being the same. It doesn't make any sense. It seems like third person shooters w/cover systems and FPS war games get a free pass. Funny how COD gets nothing but 9's even though its the same rehashed garbage that gets released on a YEARLY basis. Final Fantasy gets a core release about every 4 years and it gets trashed. Gaming journalism has become a joke this generation.
I hate how jrpgs are in constant comparison to wrpgs. It's two completely different genres. Jrpgs shouldn't be scored lower because they don't play like mass effect and fallout 3. Me personally, Fallout 3 and Mass effect are shooters with rpg elements. They're awesome games but if I want to play a rpg I pop in a final fantasy or dragon quest game. Some people, like myself, love turn based battle systems and level grinding. I hate how the western media is killing traditional jrpgs and japanese developers are trying to accommodate to western tastes. Working Designs proved back in the 90s that there is an audience that wants to play japanese centric games. That audience is still around and it's only gotten bigger due to games like final fantasy 7. Thank god for handhelds because they are full of traditional jrpgs.
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