Has Sony Just Won The Holiday Console War?

With rumors of a PS3 Slim, price-cut and Gran Turismo 5 coming this holiday season, has Sony got the perfect formula to win this holiday?

[lord_of_balrogs]

"Just Won" and rumors do not go hand in hand. Winning requires fact and proof not rumors and speculation.

[GWAVE]

But what does "won" really mean?

If nothing else, Sony has a kickin' 2009, especially the holiday. Killzone 2, MLB 09, and inFamous for the first half, and Uncharted 2 and Gran Turismo 5 (I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton of others). Gamers would be foolish to ignore the PS3 this year.

[The_Darkest_Red]

Can't tell you what company will win but I'll tell you which gamers win: PS3. All the best games that the 360 has coming out the rest of this year as well as Uncharted 2 and Ratchet.

[LordMarius]

They have won in my eyes
*looks at Uncharted 2
Yep they won alright

[G3TDOWN]

For me, Win is good games, features and liability

which Sony won for me

If Sony sold 100000000000000 consoles, that won't do any good for me

[SaberEdge]

I think PS3 is going to do very well this holiday. That goes for the 360 as well. They both have some great games coming out.

[gintoki777]

If they do a price cut. But Im guessing sony is not going to do a price cut just to make some profit back due to lowered production cost.

[G3TDOWN]

uncharted 2
GT5
MAG
R&C

all those games are over +9/10

[PrimordialSoupBase]

This site certainly won't be winning any respect with stupid headlines like that.

[Headshot81]

The ps3 always had the best exclusives for every genre, thats what it's all about. I'm not saying that all of us have the same view, but sony's exclusives are the best of the best exclusives. You can't deny that Uncharted and MGS4 are the best 3rd person shooters,God Of War is the best slasher, killzone is the best FPS, GT5 is the best Sim racer,MotorStorm is the best arcade racer,infamous is the best open-world, LBP is the best platform, mlb the show is the best sports game. I think i'll play some K I L L Z O N E 2 now, man... i love this machine!

[cereal_killa]

G3TDOWN can I borrow your crystal ball I need to get the winning lotto numbers for this weeks draw.... Look I'm not saying that any of those games you mention will be AAA but lets not jump to conclusion it's comments like that will feed the trolls in the future.... In terms of QUALITY yes Sony will win this holiday since Splinter Cell will not the light of day until 2010 my 360 will not be touched until SC gets released or Alan Wake shows up (which ever gets released 1st)

[SaberEdge]

@Headshot

All of those games you mentioned are good games, but you have to realize not everybody has the same taste. I personally like Uncharted better than Gears of War, but not everybody agrees with us. Just look at the reviews for evidence of that. Same goes for Killzone 2 -it's a great game, but some people are going to like a different FPS more.

Your post is the kind of post that breeds fanboyism. You state your opinions as facts and somebody else is going to be offended and want to counter you. It all goes in a circle and gets us nowhere.

[aceitman]

are waiting for a price drop on the ps3 they own a ps2 and said they arent getting good games for the ps2 any more seeing that all of the good games are coming to the ps3 so thats 5 poeple i know that r getting one at the price break .. and i know 2 that are saving $ to buy one too so they are getting close to the 400 mark and they r now waiting to get it when it drops they picked up a extra controller and a game already the price cut is what a lot of people r waiting for ...

[Gamertags]

Don't you wish that real journalist would do the reporting instead of these blogs/kids? Real news involves fact and proof and not just fanboy opinions.

[aceitman]

expect three skus one for $399 / $299 / and $ 200-250 just think if
production cost r down 70% it cost them $180 dollars to make so they can start seeing profit of $20-70 on the $200-250 model $120 on $299
and $220 on $399 model ...

[aceitman]

they r likeing the games they r seeing and a couple r sick of there 360 dieing on them

[Omegasyde]

Sony wins as far as software selection goes, but I don't think they can overcome Microsoft/Nintendo consoles sales. Sony marketing freaking blows, as many people buy a 360 instead of a PS3 because they think that the PS3 can't play DVD's and only blu-ray movies.

I hate to say it, but Sony should "sell out" as far as the marketing campaign goes. Only game footage of Madden, signstar, Rockband, and the Video store should be shown. If anything EYEPET should be the entire focus of the holiday blitz.

I still to this day, don't believe any Wii only owners will upgrade and become a more hardcore audience without some kind of bridge to bring them over to the dark side.

Console marketing is what wins the "war" that and discovery of high definition.

[leila01]

I love threads like this, it helps me expand my ignore list.

[Jaces]

Well hell. With all the delays, the only games going to be left by the time the holidays roll on by will be multiplat. lol =P

[heroicjanitor]

If you mean sales, it looks set to beat the 360 but I expect a wii price drop/new colour and then the wii will sell the most this holiday season. *sigh* wouldn't it be nice to have it so easy....

[Immortal Kaim]

Oh god it never ends, these sh*tty opinion pieces are clogging up this site. Look at everyone lap it up.

I love my PS3 as much as the next guy, but some of you fanboys would gladly eat a steaming pile of sh*t if it was produced by Sony, same for the MS fanboys...

[Omegasyde]

I would gladly eat the sh** if the Sh** was in 1080p and ran at 60 frames per second while I was ingesting it.

I would eat the DLc for the Sh** as well, if the Sh** including exclusive timed utensils.

[Christopher]

Oh, go figure, these type of articles are just as annoying when they're about the PS3 just as they are when they're about the Xbox 360.

[cayal]

sheesh, none of those three things are even confirmed to be happening.

[soxfan2005]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Having the best lineup on paper means NOTHING if you can't deliver where and when it really counts. Just ask the Yankees.

ALSO - the supposed 70% reduction in manufacturing costs does NOT mean that Sony will (hypothetically) open it's PS3 factory doors one morning to discover that a PS3 is miraculously 70% cheaper to produce than it was the day before. The 70% is probably off of the original $800-$900 cost of production, and not off of the current $450 (or so) cost. Production cost reductions are gradual - anyone who follows video games knows that.

[el zorro]

All of this is rampant speculation. Even if it all came true, it would be foolish to think Microsoft would just sit back on their laurels. My personal prediction is that the 360 will see greater hardware and software sales than the PS3 this holiday season. But hey, I might be wrong. We just don't know how things are going to turn out yet. Too many unknowns.

[ThanatosDMC]

I'm just surprised that Forza devs stopped touting their horns.

[JD_Shadow]

This article is asking a hypothetical question that could have an interesting answer. Remember, you don't HAVE to agree with what they said, but respect that they have that opinion and are willing to debate it and put it out in the open. Why is that a crime to do? It wasn't immature, it's using facts to back up their opinion, and they are taking legit things that have a serious chance of happening into the equation. This isn't flamebait (then again, it's only "viable" if it's blindly slamming the PS3 at every turn, I guess).

@soxfan: "Having the best lineup on paper means NOTHING if you can't deliver where and when it really counts. Just ask the Yankees."

The Yankees haven't delivered since 2001, and they have the richest front office in the MLB and offers tons of money to big stars that don't produce once they get there! No wonder they are "overrated"!

[aueslander]

Heaing the "Well, all 200,000 of my friends and fmaily that I hae talked to are waiting for the price drop to get a PS3 so since everyone I know who plays games is doing that then everyone must be doing that as well," crap that people put out. I mean one, no one cares if you know 1 or 1 million people who are going to buy a ps3 but yyour friends and or family are not a full representation of everyone on the planet that plays games.

Its the same whe you hear "Well, I have 10 friends who are all on their 45th xbox and all say that if it RROD's on them again they are going PS3," crap that people spew.

Finally, the 360 is no slouch this winter either. You have Halo ODST in September (yes, it may not do as much as a man halo title but look at Halo Wars, its an RTS that, in the US at least, has outsold KZ2) that shows a lot of promise (sandbox FPS game) as well as Forza 3 and even though it is multi plat, Moder Warfare 2 in November will sell a nice bit on the 360 (i think it will sell more on 360 than the ps3) as well and I am sure there are some I am forgetting as well.

try not to play the fanboy card since I have both a 360 and PS3 but my 360 gets played more right now.

Also, Sony does have some good games coming but, hyped PS3 only games recently avent been flying off the shelves as much as expected so far this year. What I mean is that true, sales dont always mean jack but if games dont move then it is bad for the publisher and the studio that made the game and if you love it then there are sequel concerns as well. THough decent games, let's face it, KZ2 was not the 800 lb Halo killing (or at least matching) beast that all the hype would lead you to believe it was supposed to be at retail and Infamous, though also hyped pretty decently, was overtaken by Prototype and hasnt really pushed as many as the hype and fanboy praise would make you think it woulf. As for this season, GY5 will prob really be the only exclusive to maych the hype. Yea, God of War might as well, though that is not til march. Uncharted 2 I think is turning into another KZ2, hyped to death but when it comes to PS3 players going out and buying it, they will go in decent numbers but nothing like rabid metal gear, halo, COD, or gears fans do when those games come out.

Yes, I know I will hear numbers/sales dont mean jack but how would you quantify a winner? SOny or MS could release 5 super hyped, supposed AAAAAAAAA titles before black friday and if they only move a few hundred thousand each, they will be a flop and not register a win.

Its like your fave sports team, you dont care what others say or even their record what it is cas long as you enjoy watching them and stay a fan, but if your team (im going to use NFL here) finishes 0-16 and gets blown out every game, you cant really just say "Well, they are my fave team and I dont care how they did (equate wins and loses with sales) because it only matters what I think of them and I still think they are the best," because nbo matter how much you love them, at the end of the day, wins are what matters most and to crown a winner, usually the team with the best record is in fact the best team.

[BattleAxe]

PS3 Slim + Price Cut + GT5 + Uncharted 2 + R&C = WIN

2009 + Infamous + Killzone 2 = WON
2010 + God of War 3 + Quantum + Heavy Rain = WIN

It would seem that I already knew this.......

[aueslander]

...I could say

early 2009: Halo Wars + Protoype=win (IF you look at numbers)

Holiday 2009: ODST + Forza 3 + MW2 (yes multiplat but still a HUGE seller) + I bet a $50 cut to 360 IF PS3 drops to $299= WIN FOR MS

2010: Splinter Cell + Alan Wake + Reach + Lost Planet 2 (still CONSOLE exclusive to 360 for now) + (and a HUGE PLUS and still 360 exclusive to console) Mass Effect 2 + FF13 (yes a multi plat but if you have only a 360 and want it why pay out $300 or more for a PS3 when you can get on 360) = WIN FOR MS and that is not even counting a more than likely Gears 3

See how easy that is to do? Now, stop being a fanboy and pay everything. I do for the most part (though still no wii yet)

I just hope no one brings up the "Well, most of thsoe are PC so they aint exclusice," because as far as consoles go, if you can only play a game on ONE console, it is still exclusive to the CONSOLE MARKET. Also, most people prefer consoles and would buy games for a console instead of having to pay like $1000 or more for a PC to play the game at the specs that the 360 put out anyway. Also, MS is making money both ways as though PCs are not MS, since they RUN ON WINDOWS then the game would still be company exclusve in that if you dont run windows, your sony viao couldnt run said games. Also, FF14 is coming to the PC so if ayone tries to pint out exclusivity for FF14 just shut up now.

FInaly, calling out games on the 360 as not being exclusive due to them being available on the PC would be like calling out say God of War as not being exclusive since you can get a version of it on the PSP, both still run sony OS's so they are still Sony exclusive.

Damn, I wrote way too much.

[siyrobbo]

I just hope that the slim does come with a price drop, and they dont do what they did with the psp go and release it at a marked up price. The only thing stopping me from buying a PS3 is the price, as soon as it drops below £200 im going to get one straight away.

[aueslander]

....that within a few days of a cut to the PS3 to $299 (if there will be one) you will see MS drop the price of the 60 gig pro by $50 to $249.

Say what you will about MS, but they are a smart and ruthless company that knows that your average joe consumer is retarded and if said consumer goes to buy lil Johnny or lil Judy a game system for the Holidays, in this economy looking at $299 for a system vs $249 for a system (and maybe even a minor cut to the arcade ptting it down to $179) average joe will get the cheaper system (im not putting the wii into this equation).

So, a $299 PS3 would spike sales some but, as soon as MS drops the price of the 360 to match (and we all know they probably will) the spike will even out.

Hell, I wouldnt be shocked at all if MS drops the price of the arcade to $99 and leave the Pro at $299.

[cmrbe]

That's some funny stuff there.

[Headshot81]

on "what worries me about the ps3's success", chillout!
I'm not even going to read your whole essay, but i notice something when i skipped to the end,
you said....

"FInaly, calling out games on the 360 as not being exclusive due to them being available on the PC would be like calling out say God of War as not being exclusive since you can get a version of it on the PSP, both still run sony OS's so they are still Sony exclusive"

Well there is version of god of war thats exclusive to the psp, but >i can guarantee G.O.W. 3 will not be on the psp<(just notice it rhymed, RAISE THA ROOF'LOL). There's no direct port of a current gen ps3 exclusive to the psp. The thing is that the OS doesn't matter if it's from MS, the game is still on different hardware, it's like a 360 owner playing his 360 on a sony hdtv, sony surround sound speakers. Nobody cares abou sales, most gamers are kids-teens,who's going to make a big deal and out of it and say "ha, we got cha using sony products!", The majority of gamers already have a gamin pc with the "ms OS (monopoly)" installed. So this means that they dont need to have a 360 to play the "exclusive" game when it's out on a pc. . And AGAIN, I'm ps3 owner, but i buy what is good, even if "the OS is made by MS", this thinking will open up your gaming world!

While putting all company allegiance aside: how about...
BUBBLES FOR OWNAGE AND THE "ILL LYRICS"?

[Syronicus]

Gee GT, where was that comment when the last hundred lame Xbox "articles" were approved here on N4G? It's funny how you manage to squeak that comment by when a rumor has something to do with the PS3 but when the 360 rumors hit you seem to be silent... Troll much?

As for the article, we will have to wait and see but I suspect the real winners here will be the gamers.

[ultimolu]

The games alone makes Sony a winner in my eyes.

[Rainstorm81]

Gt5 & ps3 price drop is enough without the slim.

@aueslander

you are truly delusional. Halo wars and prototype is a win for 360 gamers????? over Killzone 2 and inFamous????? first since you 360 fanboys harp on sales Halo wars @ 1.36m < Killzone 2 1.76m not to mention Killzone is a better game all around. Second why are you touting multiplats? That doesn't help your argument when those same games can be bought on PS3. Finally Splinter cell being pushed back to 2010 hurts the 360 on the exclusive games side of things, the two most antiquated games are Halo ODST and Forza 3. Thats why people are trying to predict a win for Sony. BETTER EXCLUSIVES.

As long as i can get my hands on Uncharted 2:Among Thieves I WIN

BTW: I used to love halo just like i used to love goldeneye 64, but games evolve and i evolve with them. Killzone IS one of the most adrenaline packed FPS ive played next to COD4. People feel they have to bring down KZ2 because of the PS3 hate festering within fanboys. I personally feel its better than Halo and it doesn't have to sell 10 mil to prove it. The proof is in the gameplay, animation, graphics, AI, realistic deaths, etc. People say KZ2 is generic......well by that reasoning so is Halo, COD, Gears, Battlefield etc.

Sorry for the rant...........but i hate irrational fanboy logic

[bnaked]

Uncharted 2 = triple win

Highest quality ever..

Damn, it seems that it will become a perfect game and every gamer on earth should play it!

[Poopface the 2nd]

I didnt know the holiday season was something that you can win. More sales than 360? maybe. but I have a bad feeling that the wii will sell the most again this year.

I really hope they release the PS3 slim cuz thats the one I want.

[nycredude]

qface and scissorrunner

If you two choose mates the way you choose games then be prepared to be lonely for the rest of your lives

They are just games people, you are not buying a first time house, or car, or motorcycle, or boat. I know $60 is kind of hard to swallow for some but come on!! You mean to tell me with so many games coming out that you can't find one you like?

Only games that appeal to you is ds games? You either are very young and don't actually own the other consoles (maybe your older brother or sisters do) or you are just very casual gamers, or just flat out broke, in which case you have a legitimate excuse, otherwise I suggest just selling the consoles and keeping the DS cause the way I see it if you can't find something play from this year's lineup then you most likely will never find something to play.

[kunit22c]

In console sales I would probably have to say Wii (of course) but in games, i would probably have to say PS3 in first and Wii in second.
here are the upcoming Wii games.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[samfk]

price cut is probably a given ,gt5 this year is nonsense!wish it was but cant see it.and final fatasy yawn is on both consoles!

[qface64]

i don't care what anyone says the rest of 09 is looking like crap on all fronts
can't think of any games i want for holiday 09 -_-

im glad i have a ds or else i would be bored with no games to buy for holiday 09

[PixlSheX]

Is that sarcasm? Or you just have a ds?

[Omegasyde]

Yea Nintendo fans got gipped this season. I do look forward to the Metroid Trilogy though.

Unless you hate shooters and 3rd person action games, there isn't too much too look forward to. Borderlands/demon souls is on my radar but those are niche.

[qface64]

no i have all consoles and there's nothing upcoming on the ps3 that i want everything got delayed same goes for the 360 and the wii just has mario galaxy 2 this year

i still have allot of upcoming games i want on the ds and that's it gotta wait for 2010 for all the games

[heroicjanitor]

What games do you play exactly? Are you saying Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2, modern warfare 2, Demon's Souls, Fifa 10/Pes/Madden or whatever your sport and Left 4 Dead 2 all look crap to you? You pretty much hate all genres then?
Tekken, ninja gaiden, rock band, assassin's creed there are loads.

[qface64]

ill play any type of game except for realistic sports and racing games never was a fan

i won't get uncharted2 because i never liked the first one and im skipping L4D2 because i don't like playing L4D online on the 360

my brother is getting modern warfare 2 as for demon souls ill pass
some of the games you named i already have a version of the game and its already enough

so you see why the rest of 09 is looking like crap to me no games for me to get until 2010

[bnaked]

"i won't get uncharted2"

FAIL.

[raztad]

@qface

You still have R&C:ACiT, Pixel Junk:Shooter, Borderlands, AC2, Shadow Complex

BTW, Why skipping Demons Souls? Both Reviews and owners are praising this game.

Dragon Origins?

[N4g_null]

qface64 you should try blazeblu. It is pretty fun. That is about all I see on the HD consoles for the rest of the year. I just am not a fan of the way they are pushing their games out. I'm sure I'm forgetting some thing but most of the games made for the HD system are made for their current owners. I just don't like the game play or the artist direction of most of those games.

I think HD console owners should be pretty excited because they will have some thing to play and yet another game to justify their purchase.

There seems to be a few different types of gamers and the current owners of the HD console are just another group. There are skill based gamers and fantasy based gamers and others...

You guys should not take people not being happy with your line to heart all gamers are pretty different. If you have been gaming for a while then you know what you like and really that is all that matters. The companies that make HD games will continue to do so if they truly do love making them.

The point of posting is to show that not every one is like you guys and their are some things missing that are pretty important to HD gaming right now.

[mfwahwah]

Why are you guys so interested in HIS gaming interests? Dude wants to skip one of the best gaming holidays of this generations then let him. Let's just enjoy the mountain of game's WE'LL be playing, and ignore the guy who has all the systems but hates all the games (you called them crap, after all).

[samfk]

me thinks u only got a ds,gud luck on brain training u need it pmsl

[TheColbertinator]

Wait what?

Its all opinion really since the review system is broken,fanboys never accept the other side "winning",and sales don't count because even if the 360/PS3 has 15 AAA titles this year,they will still be outsold by the Wii even if the Wii had no Mario game this year.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

You'd be hardpressed to argue that Sony doesn't have momentum on their side this holiday season. I really don't see the 360 releasing anything that stacks up to U2. The PS3 could easily become this holidays hot ticket, especially if they announce a price cut/redesign and release GT5.

[Light Yagami]

Halo 3 ODST >>>>>> everything PS3 has to offer.

[OGharryjoysticks]

Uncharted 2 is better than any game on 360 period.

...but Light Yagami already knows Uncharted 2 is the best game this gen so far anyway so grab another beer or go to sleep already.

[Narutone66]

is going to start giving out 360 for free.

[AngryTypingGuy]

It certainly looks like Sony has a strong chance if a PS3 slim happens, along with a price cut. A major price cut would help to balance out the fan base some, but the only way to balance out the fan base would be for Sony to take the sales lead for a considerable amount of time, which is hasn't really done yet. Then again, MS may have something up their sleeves. Everyone always thinks Sony will win the Xmas season, but MS always seem to pull ahead.

[Kill Crow]

Uncharted will be a great game. But just like KZ2, MGS4 and all the other great games on PS3 it won't count for sh!t because like all the other AAA titles no one will buy it. It'll sell twice as many as uncharted 1, and that still won't equate to a single weekend of an xbox 360 title.

Halo ODST, love it or hate it, will be the biggest game this year.

[Amir51]

If uncharted 2 sells twice as many as uncharted 1 then thats 5 million!

What 360 game did that in a weekend!? lol Fool.

And also how can you count MGS4 as a game noone bought!??

Sold 4 million, god you better do your research before making silly comments.

And for the record, modern warfare 2 will be the biggest title NOT halo odst. MW2 will double sales of halo, its bigger and multiplatform.

[Man_of_the_year]

"What 360 game did that in a weekend!? lol Fool"

Halo 2 and Halo 3. You Fool

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...
http://scifiblog.net/2007/0...
http://majornelson.com/arch...

Ofcourse the links i provided you only show that Halo 3 was able to do it in 24 hours in the U.S alone, not the WEEK like you have asked. Halo 3 managed to hit $300 million sales in its first week which is around 5 million games sold...again in the U.S alone.
http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

[Kill Crow]

but you're going to have to eat your hat now ....

Halo is the biggest series this yea rwithout fail ...

MW2 is close, BUT there'll be a boycott on it's price so don't expect it to do as well as MW1 until price drops ....

HALO > entire PS3 lineup.

[talltony]

I dont care how much of a fanboy you are but how the hell could you not agree that the ps3 will outsell the 360 this holiday if a cheaper slimline ps3 is released and if GT5 comes out considering it is selling as much as a 360 right now at $200 more in a recession?

[Amir51]

Fair enough, you were right about the sales.

But there's still no way ODST is gonna outsell Modern Warfare 2.

[Man_of_the_year]

"1.10 - ok what dont you guys get?
I dont care how much of a fanboy you are but how the hell could you not agree that the ps3 will outsell the 360 this holiday if a cheaper slimline ps3 is released and if GT5 comes out considering it is selling as much as a 360 right now at $200 more in a recession?"

Speculation after speculation.

1st - "IF's" again and again. Ya sure lets all state the obvious with "IF's"
2nd - Sony still has yet to confirm a PS3 slim.
3rd - Sony and Polyphony still have yet to confirm GT5 will be released this year
4th - again you are assuming that the largest SKU that sells is the arcade unit when Greenberg has already said in an interview with Torrence that the PRO is the best selling SKU which means there is about a $100 difference. Yes i will listen to Greenberg before i listen to some guy that "works in a retail story AKA apena89" who thinks because what happens in the store that he works in represents the world and has a little picture.

[freitox]

oh god halo is such an average game, only 12 year olds think it's the greatest game ever.

[jack who]

oh yeah they won alright

[Mo0eY]

Even the Xbots believe it. /thread

[gambare]

hey jack... I got a pic of you on Halloween

[starvinbull]

The writer of this article seems to think that Europe is a nation.
The European union encompasses 27 nations making a collective GDP of 18 trillion USD 4more than the USA. The 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th richest nations of the world are situated in Europe.
The population of Europe exceeds the USA by 150 million.
Europe is a continent and the second largest market in the world after Asia.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

lmao that's so much of a crap article.

[Mr.Mister]

what did you expect from a sony fanboi site

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

This article is a flamebait article written by a PS3 centric site (that doesn't even bother analysing the opposite case) that provokes Xbox 360 fans so of course you are expecting them here!!!

[mastiffchild]

Christ natsu. The article isn't actually doing much but asking a hypothetical question and wondering what the answer might be if it came to pass.

It doesn't condemn MS or the 360 or raise it's pom-poms to a Sony victory. Talk of GT5 release, PS3 slim and the ever present price cut is rife and to ask about what could happen sould Sony do all three toether is surely fair enough for a PS centred site. You want more 360 news read a 360 article, no?

Honestly think that for an article that merely asks a question, and not even in a flamey way really, on a site that preaches to the converted anyway it's getting taken in a very wrong way by lots of people.

[mfwahwah]

@2.3

Fan sites aren't meant to piss off fanboys. They're meant to appeal to their fans. They don't expect 360 fanboys reading their site because IT'S A SITE DEVOTED TO THE SYSTEM THEY'RE AGAINST.

Not every journalist is on some conspiracy binge like you guys. They just appear that way because of legitimate bias.

[IronAva]

Here we go again. As I said before, what one person may see as awesome may very well differ from the other. As an example I'll use myself. I do not want GT5 nor do I care about Forza 3. I am a Ridge Race fan and at one point in time I loved Need For Speed. So you see "for me", I could care less about a PS3 slim or a GT5 as I don't like sim style racers and I already have a PS3. But hey if it makes you happy, I can not wait for U2 and Tekken 6.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

If GT5 comes out that is a lock.....not to put down forza its just GT5 has a bigger fanbase...I personally think Forza does some things better and GT defines the Racing game.....If there is a price cut 300 bucks and a new sku it would be a great holiday for those xbox users who have yet a ps3..We all should have a ps3 and a 360 and a wii if u want one

[raztad]

Why everybody keeps forgetting FINALFANTASYXIII in Japan?

That game will move a load of PS3s, even w/o price cut.

GT5 is a given this december.

Considering such massive games, I dont see Sony cutting the PS3 price BEFORE both of them gets released.

[Omegasyde]

Actually I am sure Gran Tourismo 5 is going to have atleast twice the content the new Forza will.

However, If Turn10 (forza developers) had ~4 years to work on a sequel and a blu-ray format, it would be more of a fair fight. Both fans seem to forget that.

[MetalGearBear]

NO GOOD GAMES ON CHEAP360.
NO GOOD GAMES ON WII.
PS3 has plenty good games on holiday.

aren't FF13 come to japan on holiday 09?

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

What's up with all these silly sony sites and their juvenile journalism? First playstationlifestyle and psxtreme doing damage control in their last ridiculous spin and now this? Pretty embarrassing sony fans.

I guess it's true that the ps3 has no games since they're wasting time making crappy sites.

[lloyd_wonder]

Your perception of damage control is eerily similar to my perception of comprehension.

[N4G king]

say whaaaaaaaaaaat ??
all those Microsoft sites that talk about
(( PS3 is dead ))
(( blueray is dead ))
and a lot more crazy things is not silly just because they bash the PS3 ??

but now were getting thes site that actually make some sense you call that silly ??

ill tell you what silly
that a Holiday season comes and the xbox360 got no proper exclusives

[SaberEdge]

No proper exclusives? I tell you, Halo 3 ODST is as big of an exclusive as anything on the PS3. Only a fanboy would deny such a thing.

The simple truth is, both consoles have some great looking upcoming games to look forward to.

[N4G king]

i think a game with
the same engine
same maps + 3
and shorter gameplay

called DLC not a new game

+

enjoy the last halo
while you can lol

[SnuggleBandit]

so what games does the 360 have again? oh ya...

-halo expansion(which is only good for its online, not saying its a bad thing either)

-forza 3(which will be a good game)

but how can you say the ps3 has no games when we have had infamous and killzone 2 already on top of the end of the year exclusives!

[Omegasyde]

Halo: Odst
Forza 3
Left 4 Dead 2 (Also on PC)

****VS*****

Uncharted 2
MAG (if Applicable)
Ratchet and Clank
Gran Tourismo 5 (if Applicable)
Demon's Souls
Final Fantasy 13 (Japan only)

***VS******

Mario Galaxy 2
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
Daisy Fuentes: Pilates (Requires Wii Fit)

Winner: Nintendo.

[el zorro]

Seriously?

You just listed a bunch of games that aren't even sure to come out this year or are only coming out in Japan.

The reality is the 360 has Halo 3 ODST, Forza 3, Left4Dead 2 and some other lesser exclusives and downloadable content. The PS3 has Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank ACIT, Demon's Souls and some other lesser games and downloadable content. I'd say the 360 wins. Not that the PS3 lineup is bad--hey, I am getting Uncharted 2 and maybe even Demon's Souls--but I think the 360 lineup is going to be more successful.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

WTF dude i'm all for Halo 3 ODST & L4D2 but no way is the 360 line up better again there's R&C ACiT ( a well known series ) Demon's Souls ( the japanese smash hit RPG ) Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 ( the definitive version of Ninja Gaiden 2 )and the E3 best of show Uncharted 2 srry but the PS3 line up is better maybe not sales wise sales wise Halo 3 ODST will outsell but were not talking sales so srry but PS3 line up is better if SP:C wasn't delayed i'd say it's a tie but it was

[lloyd_wonder]

Yes

[Lfmesquite]

These are all just rumors. Rumors don't win anything.

[emk2004]

what if ps3 cost 1 dollar then would it win this holiday season. or what if halo/gears of war/fable/left 4 dead all came to ps3, then would it win?.

or best yet what if the us government buys 1000000 ps3 and then have them design a supercomputer named skynet and skynet makes ps3 clone themselfs and they become self aware and start shooting blue ray lasers at people killing them... would that mean a win for sony?

[Omegasyde]

Actually PS Cloud AKA SkyNet would be a win for Sony. Unfortunately it would be a loss for all gamers.

[GarandShooter]

What ifs, and not necessarily this one, are mean to provoke thought and imagination, and as thus are not dumb.

What if we didn't have to walk everywhere or rely on animals led to the automobile.

What if we had a machine that would allow us to fly led to airplanes.

What if I didn't have to walk around with the remnants of the last sh!t I took clinging to my ass cheeks and underwear lead to toilet paper.

I'm sure you can think of many, many more on your own.

[Pandamobile]

I'm not even a Sony fan and I believe they've got the best 2009 lineup.

[KingKionic]

Yeah...

[SaberEdge]

Well, we don't even really know what will eventually be the lineups of the two systems. But I will say that if all the rumored games for PS3 make it out the PS3 will have a bit better lineup. The 360 also has a pretty good lineup, but the Splinter Cell delay weakened it.

That is the 360's biggest fault in my opinion ..it needs more first party support.

[Omegasyde]

Yea, Microsoft has just Halo Odst and Forza.

[ShabzS]

splinter cell delay pretty much secured the year for sony ...

[raztad]

Definitively. ODST + Conviction was a counterbalance to UC2, being Conviction a no go this year, an expansion pack is far from enough, I'm talking about content no sales. However, I think there is a game many are overlooking because is just on xbla, Shadow Complex, game looks rather promising.

[jetlian]

i bet you halo out sells uc2 and rc this year

[raztad]

It doesnt matter to me, in case you didnt notice it I was talking about quality no sales. Yeah, who can say UC2 will outsell Halo expansion? I cant. Halo will win, most probably.

[jetlian]

is considered content? how did you come up with odst+ conviction equals uc2? conviction is most likey way above uc by itself.

[tplarkin7]

October 2009

http://forzamotorsport.net/...

[silkrevolver]

I'm not a fan of the racing genre as a whole.....but from the non-fan eye, I think GT5 will be the overall better game. Purely from their track record and what we've seen.

[LordMarius]

Yes they won

Xbots losing Holiday Console Wars since 2006

[bohemian 23]

Yeah because Sony has so many great games and has moved so many systems. You have to be on drugs to think Sony has won anything since the PS2. I know one person with a ps3 and I can count the good exclusives on half of a hand.

[LordMarius]

Silly bot dont confuse your crap60 with the PS3

Xbots confusing consoles since 2006

[Light Yagami]

Lair, Haze, Genji, RRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIDDDDGGGGGGGE EEEEEEE RRRRRAAAAACCCCCEEEEEERRRRRRRRR

[Alcon Caper]

dude, seriously...I still don't know anyone who owns a PS3. And I still don't know anyone who wants to buy a PS3.

All I hear about is Xbox Live and Modern Warfare 2.

[Gen0ne]

They are on the right track though. Talk to me after Christmas about who won. And for the record, great graphics be damned, GT is boring. There. I said it. Let the disagrees roll on in.

[darrensworld]

My girl bought me my ps3 for $299 via sony style, it was a sweet deal. I hope all people will have the $299 option one day, it's the perfect price to move more consoles. The games + a $299 price point will draw in more people, only the most hardened xbox fanboys will resist.

[Poopface the 2nd]

even though I owned a ps1 and ps2 before xbox even existed. A price drop would be nice, but I am waiting for a slim ps3.

If the slim is real and they only drop the price of the regular ones to 299, Id pay 399 for the slim.

I just think it would be cool to have a bluray and games console that is smaller than standalone bluray players.

Seems a slim alone with FF13 could help move ps3 in Japan. I think Japan likes smaller sleek electronics.

[Shadow017]

This is a lie 360 won easily were getting mass effect 2, alan wake and splinter cell conviction this holiday.

[cereal_killa]

Some where in your comment you forgot to add the sarcasm tag!!! (at least I hope you did.

[MetalGearBear]

Alan Wait and Splinter Cell is delayed until 2010.

[N4G king]

2010 says hi
=)

[LukaX23]

who cares.

[bohemian 23]

Ha Ha Ha........ This article is a joke right?

[Obama]

Ha Ha Ha..then tell me who won 09? ;)

[RockmanII7]

No one because it is still 2009

[danthaman15]

^
ROFL at the disagrees= Ok if it's not 2009, what year is it?

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

off topic has anyone notice how for 3 weeks there's no HHG show on sunday and 2 weeks without a HHG crappy article i don't miss his crappy show but anyone know why ? either way i hope he never comes back on topic don't care who wins as long as i get Uncharted 2 & NGS2

[user858621]

do u live under a rock?? dumbass new show was up 2day interviewin developers of splintercell........no wat 4get it u go bck 2 teabaggin sme1 n gettin turned on by it -_-'

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

what's your problem and link please because all day no article is from HHG and not of his show so unless you have the wanna be HHG has been MIA for 2 weeks and it can stay that way

[Shadow017]

Don't think people are that stupid

Edit: ya we can race but u wont beat me ill come to you're house and blind you with my flashlight

[Unicron]

Oh god, this sh1t is so stupid. Win/Lose/Doom articles are so utterly stupid. I don't care who wins, loses, or flaunts their e-peen most... all I care about is there have been great games this year, and there will be more between now and March. Anyone who cares about anything else is a bit of a tool.

[dirthurts]

Have some very exciting times coming up. It doesn't matter what console "wins". In the end, this year, and early next year, anyone owning either console wins.

Lucky me, I get to win twice : )

[SaberEdge]

Yep, me too.

Not trying to rub it in anybody's face, I'm just happy to own both.

[dirthurts]

Someone out there feels that they fail by owning a console with good games...
I mean really. If the console war is all "up in your grill and personal" your not a gamer. You don't care about the games. You have no reason to be on this forum.
I'm not sure why it matters to anyone except stock holders who wins the race.
Do your friends stop coming over to play Xbox when sales slump? I know mine don't.

[Allowen]

I am not that much fun of racing games but I might buy Gt5 since I got a Ps3.

but I agree with some posts about there is no uber cool game this year like the previous years that had Fo3, Bioshock and Oblivion.

Uncharted2, MAG and GT5 will be great games but I'm a bit indiferent on buying then or not.

[SaberEdge]

That's your opinion. Personally I'd take Uncharted 2 and Halo 3 ODST over the games you mentioned any day. Bioshock was great, but Fallout 3 and Oblivion are not quite as good in my opinion. Heck, I'd take Modern Warfare 2 and Left4Dead 2 over those games. I love RPGs with a passion, but for some reason those two games didn't quite wow me. They were decent, but something was missing for me.

I'm not saying my opinion is any more right than yours. I'm just pointing out that there are different opinions and mine doesn't agree with yours. This year is looking great to me.

[Saaking]

For me Sony Wins every year
2007- uncharted, heavenly sword, ratchet and clank
2008- LBP, Resistance 2, MGS 4
2009- Uncharted 2, MAG, Killzone 2, Infamous, possibly GT 5
2010- The Last Guardian, God of War 3, Heavy Rain
2011- who knows but it'll be great.
There's no denying the quality of PS3 exclusives.

[LordMarius]

2011-Agent, FF13VS

[Saaking]

Very true, so many exclusives I can't keep track of them. Oh and I forgot Modnation Racers for 2010.

[user858621]

sony = breathtaking beautiful innovative games!!!

microsoft = "if its not a shooter gtfo!!"

[Saaking]

Sony has a perfect combo on their hands. Price cut, GT5, PS3 Slim, and FF XIII in Japan. If done right they could turn the tables in this "console war."

[Tripl3seis]

btw guys I just bought my ps3 like 2 weeks ago n let me tell u something.This machine is the best system out there and people don't see that. I'm loving it and idk wat people say ant it.Ok bad 2 the topic they have the cards to play if they play the cards rite is going to be awesome for Sony did holiday :)

[mrblacknut]

I have owned it since 2007 and that is great after owning it for 2 weeks you think it is the best machine out. I simply disagree.

[shutupandplay]

ps3center, I lol`d.

[user858621]

yh a can tell wats goin on in ur mind ryt now

"Halo ODST f*ck yh!!, master cheif = orgasm!!!, teabaggin ftw!!, gota get my expensive helmet edition!!!"

[shutupandplay]

"yh a can tell wats goin on in ur mind ryt now"
Really? You can hear me laughing at you telepathically?

[Obama]

We can all see you weeping over the pathetic year of the 360.

[Aceluffy]

I just love replying to you. Yes, we can hear you laughing nervously as you try your hardest to convince yourself that your 360 exclusives this holiday season is gonna be worth playing. Even now I'm still really puzzled how some MS lovers can compare SC: Conviction with the legendary MGS franchise, well...when u get a chance to play that so called stealth game on 360 this holiday.........oh wait

[Bladestar]

lol... yeah... sure Sony won... I mean... Sony lovers will give you a huge list of games that came out this year on the PS3... sadly the charts clearly indicate that though Sony did bring many games... very few people actually though they were worth buying compare to the xbox 360...

In the US alone the xbox 360 leads the PS3 by more than 9 million...

PS3 is failing to beat the xbox 360 in the US every single month...

So, yeah... Sony lovers will say Sony is winning... because of the games they believe are so great... yet... the mainstream gamer a) is not buying those games... and b) is not buying the PS3...

So, the bottom line is... since how great a game is is a matter of opinion... and sell charts are an indicator of interest and demand for a product people want...

let's just say that nothing has change since the PS3 was released... Sony leg humpers keep claiming victory and each PS3 game release as the 2nd coming.. and the fact that the PS3 is not gaining any ground as far as mainstream gamer popularity... worst... it's falling deeper into 3rd... luckily for Sony there is not a 4th console out there...

but.. but.... the games... what games? I have a PS3 and I an xbox 360... and most PS3 games are overrated by Sony leg humpers...
Games like Kill Zone 2 were a major let down. Resistance 1 and 2 suck balls specially for people who had a taste of what real FPS should be like with their xbox 360.

And I do not have to try to hard to prove my argument... how pathetic Kill Zone 2 did compared to most xbox 360 exclusive and 3rd party FPS games tells the facts.

Most of these games Sony leg humpers preach about... come out and flop and are purchased by the handful minority that call themselves gamers... who do not represent most gamers out there...

@KionicWarlord222 - lol! "Ps3 does have more higher rated exclusives so far this year ." rated by who? By the same few people that actually follow Sony wherever they go?
The best rating system is the gamer's wallet... is a game worth buying? worth paying $60? Ever wonder why these super AAAAAAAAAA PS3 master games are so high rated and hyped... and then you are lucky if they actually make the top 10?

I mean G.... are PS3 games worth playing but not buying?

[KingKionic]

But Bladestar ....

Ps3 does have more higher rated exclusives so far this year .

[Obama]

By your logic the Wii won every single year with its games. The consensus here is that the ps3 won 09 this year, so deal with it.

Kionicwarlord deserves a bubble for stating the truth as a xbox fan.

[N4G king]

www.kleenex.com

=)

[Bladestar]

@Obama - what are you talking about? the wii even with such higher install base... games do not sell well... compare to other consoles.

Are you talking about wiisport which comes with the console?

Here is June 2008 NPD:

1. PROTOTYPE 360 ACTIVISION BLIZZARD 419.9K
2. UFC 2009: UNDISPUTED 360 THQ 338.3K
3. EA SPORTS ACTIVE BUNDLE WII ELECTRONIC ARTS 289.1K
4. TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 10* WII ELECTRONIC ARTS 272.4K
5. WII FIT WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA 271.6K
6. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 4 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS 260.8K
7. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 4 PS3 ELECTRONIC ARTS 210.3K
8. MARIO KART W/WHEEL WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA 202.1K
9. RED FACTION:GUERRILLA 360 THQ 199.4K
10. INFAMOUS PS3 SONY 192.7K

Here is May NPD

1. UFC 2009 Undisputed (X360) - 679,600
2. Wii Fit (Wii) - 352,800
3. EA Sports Active (Wii) - 352,800
4. UFC 2009 Undisputed (PS3) - 345,800
5. inFamous (PS3) - 334,400
6. Pokemon Platinum (NDS) - 175,900
7. Mario Kart Wii - 158,300
8. Punch-Out!! (Wii) - 156,900
9. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (X360) - 120,700
10. Wii Play (Wii) - 109,800
11. New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
12. Mario Kart DS (DS)
13. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (PS3)
14. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360)
15. Gardening Mama (DS)
16. Sacred 2: Fallen Angel (X360)
17. Call of Duty: World at War (X360)
18. Rhythm Heaven (DS)
19. Halo 3 (X360)
20. Gold's Gym Cardio Workout (Wii)

as you can see.. even with 3 times the installbase of the xbox 360 the wii is still behind in terms of games sells.

"The consensus here is that the ps3 won 09 this year"... lol.. yeah... which is being the case since the PS3 came out.. on N4G which is Sony leg humper's paradise.... But.. it's not consensus in the real world... not among gamers not among the game industry... and sure as hell not on NPD or any recorded tracking system. which... goes without saying... mmm... means a lot more than what the handful of sony leg humpers here think. lol.

[KingKionic]

" rated by who? By the same few people that actually follow Sony wherever they go? "

Take a look at meticritic .

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Xbox 360 doesn't have a AAA . And you can see ps3 is leading in scores this year .

[Omegasyde]

Don't mind BladeStar he thinks Wii Fit/MarioKart came out in May.

Only a fool would own themselves in their own comment.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

hey i have question if we PS3 owners don't buy games why did Uncharted 1 outsold Mass Effect or why did LBP outsell Mass Effect yeah were's the PS3 owners don't buy games they buy movies . ok here's another KZ2 you know that game you guys call overhyped flop game well that 1 game outsold every 360 exclusive released in 2009 still don't believe it here's another Bioshock & Mass Effect outsold by Uncharted in the same time period the only games that sell are Halo and Gears so yeah there you go owned and now i declare the game sales debate dead also 9 million lead ah yeah 9 million in your twisted fanboy head it's around 7 million no more no less also stop saying bullshit if you had a PS3 you wouldn't be here complaining your a retard fanboy that deserves to get a kick in the nuts

[badbond1]

is on some bullshiat! You don't own a PS3, plain and simple. You act is if your were a salesman. I could give a rats azz about sales. The 360 didn't have anything remotely close to killzone 2 or inFamous this year so why all this crap about sales. When GT5 and slim drop this winter, what will you have left to say? Not a GD thang! PS3 is building while the 360 is tearing down! Get a life BOTTY BOY!

[xztence]

Your trying too hard.

Your bullcrap is amusing.

[Knightofelemia]

I wonder if GT 5 will be bundled with a PS3?

[II Necroplasm II]

That's a rumor as well. Maybe even bundled with a PS3 slim.

[SpartanZero]

Xbox 360 has higher quality games than the Ps3. All they care about is teh graphics!

[N4G king]

lol
what games
halo & gears of war ???

lol
thats it ???

[shutupandplay]

N4G king. You know what is funny? Those are big name games, people automatically associate gears and halo with 360. You know what`s sad? Ps3 does not even have ONE game like that. You ask somebody what ps3 is known for and you get "well, mgs4.....uh, um, and that one game with the really nice graphics, I forget what it`s called" Would you suckers hurry up and get a good game already.

[Skadoosh]

Yup. The playstation brand is desperate to get a franchise as successful as Gears of War and Halo. They tried with Killzone 2 that's why they put all that effort and money into it but if failed miserably. Just like most of sony exclusives.

[el zorro]

Oh come on, N4G King, are you really going to claim that the 360 only has "Gears and Halo"? See, that is why PS3 fanboys are held in such low esteem by many people...you guys are always lying and distorting the truth.

The undeniable truth is, the 360 has more highly rated exclusives and other games than the PS3 does. According to metacritic the 360 has 20 games rated 90 or higher, while the PS3 only has 12. That's nearly twice as many! Has the 360 been out twice as long? No.
Games rated 80 or higher...the 360 has 157 and the PS3 has 114.

The 360 has more and better RPGs, better shooters and also covers every other base in between. Saying the 360 only has Halo and Gears is simply laughable.

[shutupandplay]

"80 or higher...the 360 has 157 and the PS3 has 114"
That`s gotta suck
"360 has 20 games rated 90 or higher, while the PS3 only has 12"
That`s gotta suck even more.

[topdawg122]

Shut up and play
just stop dude you embarass yourself everytime.
God of war, gt, ratchet, and uncharted say hi :P

[badbond1]

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE! The bottom line is this - graphically, you acknowledged that your botty box got its azz kicked in the graphics department. Where you fail to acknowledge is that in fact, the PS3 is beating the hell out of the botty box in quality - uncharted 2 blows everything out of the water on the 360! Face it - you either get a PS33 or you stay strapped to fu*K with your box! LMAO!

[xztence]

"N4G king. You know what is funny? Those are big name games, people automatically associate gears and halo with 360."

Yeah because those 2 are the only games worth calling out, the rest of the games sucks sh!t.

The ps3 has a big variety of games including GOW, GT5 , Uncharted Killzone, MGS4. And because of the variety it gets hard to mention a game associated with it.

[clintos59]

Im sure sony will still have a great holiday with a slim sku & a price cut. Im sure all 3 systems will do well this holiday. But if GT5 does hit this dec. bundled with a slim & a price cut, there is no doubt about it that sony will have the best selling system this holiday easilly.

[DelbertGrady]

PS3 always wins slutbots!! We have been winning every year since 2006!

With pricecuts and GT5 confirmed Sony owns everyone this holiday!

GT5 > Flopza 3

MAG > MW 2(not that anyone cares about multiplat games anyways)

Unsharted 2 > Everything!!

[shutupandplay]

Uncharted 2 > soaping up jessica alba

[DelbertGrady]

Uncharted 2 > soaping up Criss Angel

[devilhunterx]

xmen assssssssssseeeeeeeeeemmmmmmmm mmmbbbbbbbbbbbbbbllllllleeeeeee eee!

[jalen247]

I think Sony will do very well this holiday if they get the price down to $299. I have plenty of friends that all have PS2's and haven't even joined this generation of consoles yet. They don't have HDTVs. I think the price and HDTV adoption are Sony's biggest problems. But Sony was smart in how they built their console. It looks like this console generation is going to last longer than usual. And guess who's machine is most prepared for the long haul....Sony's PS3 is the most future proof console. Sony bet big and suffered early...but now they are going to start to see the fruits of their labor...starting this holiday season.

[RockmanII7]

Why does a company have to win? Why can't gamers win?

[GarandShooter]

People have rooting interests.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Sony has won the holiday rumor war! Congrats Sony... you take the cake on the rumors. Now... we shall see about the rest as the year unfolds.

[vShinobi]

No console has won I don't see a contest announced or anything, but if it was a contest I'd say PS3 won this year in games I mean in 2009 we got/getting inFAMOUS, Killzone 2, Demon's Soul, GT5(maybe), Eyepet(maybe), Uncharted 2, not counting multiplatform games its a great year to be a gamer.

[Obama]

Xbots assemble!

[keysy420]

ps3 will still win this holiday season its a sure thing i might get another ps3 if its 300

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

David Jaffe just confirmed the PS3 price cut (at least in Japan) on his Twitter!!!

[KeenanTheSavage]

<sarcasm>NOW EVERYONE CAN SETTLE DOWN AND BE SUPER HAPPY! YES! </sarcasm>

[olLANDSHARKlo]

Happy about what, Sony is giving their own country a price cut, just as they always give their own country everything first.

[DARK WITNESS]

for once there are actually some nice comments in here... even if the article is just on the tip of being fanboyish or whatever.

personally, i think if sony can pull off all of the above then they will be setting themselves up for a very big holiday. Maybe their best yet.

While i am not going to predict a winner cos i don't have a crystal ball, i just have a feeling that this holiday its going to be all about those gamers who already have one system picking up the other. if anything it would be nice to see.

[TheMART]

hahahahh

HAHAHAHAAHAHAH

How the hell do you win with what it says exactly...

'RUMORS'

?!?!

Funny PS3center SDF fandroids.

[Oner]

^^^ Irony at it's fullest...

[lonix]

Considerably less RROD cases this year because nobody will be playing xbox 360

[00000000000000000001]

I won't know, I will be to busy playing all the better 360 games! Halo 3 ODST, Forza, Magna Carta 2, Left4Dead2 and a lot of better MP games. THe only PS3 game I have pre-ordered is Uncharted 2.

[Kushan]

"It also doesn't help Microsoft that their most anticipated Xbox 360 exclusive, Splinter Cell: Conviction"

That's their most anticipated Exclusive? Ummm, I don't think so. How about ODST, Forza 2 or even Mass Effect 2? I think they're WAY more anticipated than Splinter Cell.

[KingKionic]

Kushan ...

Forza 3 man...

[Kushan]

....I knew that >_>

[freitox]

mass effect 2 was never a 2009 game I believe.

[Boty]

if Sony wins? What do I lose if Microsoft Wins?

[RAVEN81]

well with the slim= price cut and all the triple A games coming and on competion sonys got the year in the bag...

[badbond1]

It gets so sad with your Halo reruns and wanna be Gran Turismo games. Look, don't get mad cause we droids play on the better system with roids'! LMAO! Killzone 2 whether you admit it or not, has not been seen on a botty box and InFamous, has not been seen on the Botty box, and Uncharted 2, will not be seen on the Botty Box! Gran Turismo - 60 fps true 1080p Christmas and a slim - and the 360 is blasted into oblivion!

[divideby0]

I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that I will be purchasing way more PS3 games than 360 games and if MP titles are the same, I am buying the PS3 versions.

[skatezero246]

It's to soon to say, but if Sony does drop the price, release a slim, and gran turismo then ..... I say dam Skippy!

[AXAXAX]

my ONLY purchases this year are:
KZ2, Infamous, Fat Princess, Uncharted 2, MAG, GT5, R&C.
So for me, Sony always wins.

Oh and possibly Batman Dark Asylum + MW2 (i'll be way too busy with Sony titles)

[saimcheeda]

an xbox today is osama bin laden so he could have some kind of heat up in the mountains!

[Rowsdower]

this is my last post.

you dont know me but I have been coming to this site for the past 2 1/2 years, and in that time I have watched it devolve to the state it is now.
2 1/2 years ago there was less garbage articles like this and more actual news articles about the gaming industry.

you see news is information that should be important and factual. basing a news story on speculation and personal bias is not news, it is at its best opinion and at its worst a thinly veiled piece of corporate propaganda. what we have here at N4G is the latter and we are worse off as a community for it.

I just want to say goodbye N4G because you have wasted my time for the last time. no longer will I be tempted to join in on one these petty backs and forth, arguing about whose toy is better. N4G you have found a way to making gaming not fun. N4G is killing what is good in gaming.

I realize none of this matters and I expect negative responses and/or people telling that I take it too seriously, but I love gaming and it pains me to watch it get F&$ked and Smacked around like a wh*re.

so goodbye N4G the only way I can save gaming for me is to stop reading you. in the end I realize that N4G is not about gaming and that most of you folks are not really gamers, your shills and hacks. You are the unpaid employees of the the video game industry, fighting turf wars and believing in BS just because its your sides BS, and all that matters is that you win.

Here is reality you've already lost. Goodbye.

[skatezero246]

lol dam I remember seeing that, had me laughing

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

Sony obviously won this year already. I mean, just look at all those AAA titles coming this holiday. It doesn't matter how much the 360 sold. You can't play sales number. But you can always play the tony and tons of PS3 games coming this year. And that is a victory gamers can benefit from.

[skeletonss]

pretty exited over a rumor.

[skatezero246]

it's coming the only rumor is when

[Sibs]

If all of those rumors occur, sure. If even one of them do not occur plenty of people will keep waiting for the slim, the price cut, GT5... etc. Rumors can only hurt the ps3 sales, and that is all it has done to it so far.

[ReBurn]

Now if they could only make Gran Turismo into a fun game all would be right with the world. I've always found Gran Turismo games stiff and boring.

Uncharted 2 and Assassins Creed 2 are the games I'm most looking forward to this holiday season.

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

Then GT5 wasn't cater at you. You would probably enjoy games like Motorstorm or Burn Out more.

[retro]

...they only have rumours... PS3 slim (Sony denies it), Price cut (Sony denies it)... only fact is that they have Uncharted 2 and some other great looking titles...

[skatezero246]

yea why would Sony go ahead and say dam ... you found out before you where supposed to but yea its true ..... of course there going to deny it, if they confirm it then people are going to stop buying and wait for the price drop/slim

[ToriQ]

Show me some numbers in Januray 2010, until then shut ur pie hole, PS3 has been losing I though KZ 2 and 2009 was "the year of the ps3" its laughable

[danielle007]

it'll be with no where near a large enough margin for me to even consider laying down money on a PS3. :)

Plus, 360 gets L4D2, that's the clear winner in my book. Soo excited for that game!

[Rainstorm81]

"Nope, They Won't Sell More Systems or Games, Period........I though KZ 2 and 2009 was "the year of the ps3" its laughable"

"sony is not gonna win just because of a racing game and a slim ps3 they need more than that"

"even if the PS3 "wins", it'll be with no where near a large enough margin for me to even consider laying down money on a PS3. :) "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^Those comments are laughable^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Its so clear you guys hate everything Playstation why do you troll PS3 articles?? Saying things like that shows your intelligence or lack there of. Any REAL gamer knows the truth.

Go play L4D Gears and Halo........since thats all you seem to have

[blazed13]

no the wii will kick ass once again if not the wii the 360 will. sony is not gonna win just because of a racing game and a slim ps3 they need more than that . maybe if god of war 3 was released for the holidays then maybe yeah but its not gonna happen this year or next..

[blazed13]

what this website is full of rumors maybe they should find some real news now and then instead of all this crap. rumors this rumors that...

[Boty]

Do you like Sony or Microsoft?

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

I like games.

[Boty]

You?

[-chaz-]

The PS3 will have a really impressive lineup, but realistically...I think this holiday season is going to be all about the 360, MW2 and L4D2...at least sales-wise.

Just a hunch.

[ScoobyDrew]

possibly i mean MW2 will sell both systems and honestly L4D2 doesn't look that good but i think you may have a point there cuz thats what has happened every time in the past haha.

[DruePhoenix]

why exactly is GT5 going to help them win this season? is it THAT big of a scale tipper?

[guerojose]

So if the various rumors turn out to be true, we could be seeing:

1) A redesigned, slimmer PS3, at a significantly cheaper price point.
2) The return of PS2 compatibility thru Cell/RSX emulation, which is a very big deal to some.
3) A true flagship title like GT5 - perhaps even a special bundle with the new system?

If all this comes to pass, it sure looks like a pretty compelling product. A PS3Slim bundle with GT5, or U2:AT, could be a very smart way to steal a page from the MS playbook, and encourage existing owners to buy a second system, as many will be tempted to get a slim.

[gumgum99]

Its still too early to tell, but I'm sure the PS3 will do very well either way.

[Deios]

Why do they let people post these dumb topics.

[danthaman15]

Because the Open Zone tards eat it up. Gamer Zone= Rational Discussions, Open Zone= Pro-Sony ONLY

[Arkham]

I just got a virus/trojan warning when PS3center.net loaded up (virtumonde.sdn). Maybe it's one of their advertisers, but I suggest that EVERYONE who clicked the link scan their systems asap.

[ScoobyDrew]

i didn't detect one, i think it was an add you accidentally clicked on

[Arkham]

I didn't click anything other than the story link on N4G, and no other tabs/sites were open. When the article's site loaded up, it triggered my resident protection.

It's either a false positive (hopefully) or one of the random ads in rotation on that site. Luckily I blocked it before "~.exe" could be installed and run.

EDIT: I think it's a false positive, for now, but I'm running a couple of extra scans.

I did find this thread on the EU Playstation website from March, which shows several other people encountering either exploits of false positives at the site.

http://community.eu.playsta...

Until I hear otherwise, I've blocked the site entirely via my hosts file.

[ScoobyDrew]

ok look, i'm a proud ps3 owner BUT there is a HUGE difference between speculation and fact. This article is just giving what may happen, these are still good things, but right now the article is just another opinion.

[free3sixty]

Of course Sony won!

They won 2007
2008
now 2009

They have the best line up 2007/ 2008/ 2009

crazy PS3tards

STill, people dont care about Sonys shiat:D.. cause every year the 360 is 1 Million units more ahead!

[saimcheeda]

*nods* *then whispers to the guy on the left*...."Smile and wave these retarted guys are gonna be happy"

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Congratulations Sony!! You winzzzz!

Like you do when we are always trying to fortune tell the future!

Heck, why stop there! I think Sony will close the gap with MS and Nintendo and might even open up a 20-30mil console lead after the holidays!

Gooooooo Sooooooooooooonnnnnnnyy!!!

[air1]

im sure sony is bound to win a holiday at some point. it would be a shame if it didnt.

it would be sad if sony didnt win this holiday i mean micro put the dogs away and left the door wide open.

can sony do it?

c'mon all together

SONY yes you can, yes you can!!!!

[air1]

now thats the spirit bumpy, were you been? getting tests results??

[cyborg6971]

Yes I got the results they came back and I'm sorry to say that you've been diagnosed with douche bagarea. Sadly there is no cure you have my condolences.

[air1]

well now, that just sucks!!

the world is just not fair is it, you got genital warts and i have douche bagarea.

is that why i keep sh!ting on you, cause i have bagarea? my apologies..

[cyborg6971]

Does anyone think you quasi grade school come backs are sh!tting on me besides you? Fat chance. You won't have to worry about genital warts being you have no genitalia. You asexual budding son of your self b!tch.

[Morituri]

Any rational person could tell you, having both systems is the way to go. I prefer to play like a shifty arms dealer, taking my business to both sides of the fence. If either SONY or MS failing gives you a woody because of your bias, you seriously need to put down the pocket protector and get a life.

[cyborg6971]

Yes it can yes it can yes it can.

[MysticStrummer]

I am a Sony fan. I own only the PS3 this gen, and even I want ridiculous articles like this to stop. NO ONE has won ANYTHING. I understand that as a PS3 site you gotta focus on the PS3, but come on.

[lizard81288]

I've heard of Christmas in July, but this is ridiculous.

[zonetrooper5]

I also got a virus alert as well, I'm using Avast, it could be a false alert but the site needs to be informed so it can take down whatever is causing it.

[Arkham]

I believe it *was* a false positive. The particular virtumonde.sdn warning is one that has in the past been a false-positive for SpyBot S&D's resident protection. I scanned with several tools and was fine, but at the time time I was able to prevent the item from initially being installed.

The other link to the EU Playstation site showed that the site in question has had similar problems in the past. I suspect it's just their ads or some odd javascript on their site. Either way, the issue should be addressed by the site owners.

[KeenanTheSavage]

But how could this holiday season be winnable? Sell more than the 360, the Wii? I'm almost 100% sure that it isn't selling more than the Wii, and it might sell more than the 360 - actually, it probably will. People who aren't PS3 owners, or just Wii owners make see the PS3 slim if it comes out holiday season, and with the price cuts - pick one up.

There is a good lineup for all consoles as of yet, and owners of each consoles have reason to pick up games for their respected consoles, and it's the same for the PS3.

I guess whatever happens, happens.....

[xg-ei8ht]

Even if i won the lotto this week, i still would not buy a 360.

I just do not want one.

EVER

[bobdog626]

I bought a PS3 and after all the load times on the PS3 Games and the light ass controller which the gun trigger is on the top left which i Hate and the messy interface which is very confusing . I will never put the PS3 over the 360 again .

[freitox]

lol, sure sure, you have a ps3..

[Tsar4ever01]

STOP THE BULLS**T FLAMEBAITING ARTCLES!! JUST SO YOU COULD GET HITS!!!
AND TO RILE-UP ALL THE STUPID FANBOYS!!

[bobdog626]

Mass Effect will make sure the PS3 won't win this Holiday and did you Forget about HALO ODST ? Tell me More Guys , Tell me how PS3 will compeat against that.

[bobdog626]

Good night to all the Fan's out there .Keep Playing the Game's and Rock on.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Mass Effect 2 has a release date of early 2010. PlayStation 3 has Uncharted 2, and a quick jump to YouTube will help you understand why it's the top game this year. Halo: ODST? That's a cool game, but it's an expansion. It's basically Halo 3.5, with the exact same core gameplay, mechanics, all with some new features and story more. Sorry, but it's not better than Uncharted 2. Any other games you want to throw into your argument?

[NateDPG]

Yes