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Has Sony Just Won The Holiday Console War?

With rumors of a PS3 Slim, price-cut and Gran Turismo 5 coming this holiday season, has Sony got the perfect formula to win this holiday?

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lord_of_balrogs2940d ago

"Just Won" and rumors do not go hand in hand. Winning requires fact and proof not rumors and speculation.

GWAVE2940d ago

But what does "won" really mean?

If nothing else, Sony has a kickin' 2009, especially the holiday. Killzone 2, MLB 09, and inFamous for the first half, and Uncharted 2 and Gran Turismo 5 (I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton of others). Gamers would be foolish to ignore the PS3 this year.

The_Darkest_Red2940d ago

Can't tell you what company will win but I'll tell you which gamers win: PS3. All the best games that the 360 has coming out the rest of this year as well as Uncharted 2 and Ratchet.

LordMarius2940d ago

They have won in my eyes
*looks at Uncharted 2
Yep they won alright

G3TDOWN2940d ago (Edited 2940d ago )

For me, Win is good games, features and liability

which Sony won for me

If Sony sold 100000000000000 consoles, that won't do any good for me

SaberEdge2940d ago

I think PS3 is going to do very well this holiday. That goes for the 360 as well. They both have some great games coming out.

gintoki7772940d ago

If they do a price cut. But Im guessing sony is not going to do a price cut just to make some profit back due to lowered production cost.

G3TDOWN2940d ago

uncharted 2
GT5
MAG
R&C

all those games are over +9/10

PrimordialSoupBase2940d ago

This site certainly won't be winning any respect with stupid headlines like that.

Headshot812940d ago

The ps3 always had the best exclusives for every genre, thats what it's all about. I'm not saying that all of us have the same view, but sony's exclusives are the best of the best exclusives. You can't deny that Uncharted and MGS4 are the best 3rd person shooters,God Of War is the best slasher, killzone is the best FPS, GT5 is the best Sim racer,MotorStorm is the best arcade racer,infamous is the best open-world, LBP is the best platform, mlb the show is the best sports game. I think i'll play some K I L L Z O N E 2 now, man... i love this machine!

cereal_killa2940d ago

G3TDOWN can I borrow your crystal ball I need to get the winning lotto numbers for this weeks draw.... Look I'm not saying that any of those games you mention will be AAA but lets not jump to conclusion it's comments like that will feed the trolls in the future.... In terms of QUALITY yes Sony will win this holiday since Splinter Cell will not the light of day until 2010 my 360 will not be touched until SC gets released or Alan Wake shows up (which ever gets released 1st)

SaberEdge2940d ago

@Headshot

All of those games you mentioned are good games, but you have to realize not everybody has the same taste. I personally like Uncharted better than Gears of War, but not everybody agrees with us. Just look at the reviews for evidence of that. Same goes for Killzone 2 -it's a great game, but some people are going to like a different FPS more.

Your post is the kind of post that breeds fanboyism. You state your opinions as facts and somebody else is going to be offended and want to counter you. It all goes in a circle and gets us nowhere.

aceitman2940d ago (Edited 2940d ago )

are waiting for a price drop on the ps3 they own a ps2 and said they arent getting good games for the ps2 any more seeing that all of the good games are coming to the ps3 so thats 5 poeple i know that r getting one at the price break .. and i know 2 that are saving $ to buy one too so they are getting close to the 400 mark and they r now waiting to get it when it drops they picked up a extra controller and a game already the price cut is what a lot of people r waiting for ...

Gamertags2940d ago

Don't you wish that real journalist would do the reporting instead of these blogs/kids? Real news involves fact and proof and not just fanboy opinions.

aceitman2940d ago

expect three skus one for $399 / $299 / and $ 200-250 just think if
production cost r down 70% it cost them $180 dollars to make so they can start seeing profit of $20-70 on the $200-250 model $120 on $299
and $220 on $399 model ...

aceitman2940d ago

they r likeing the games they r seeing and a couple r sick of there 360 dieing on them

Omegasyde2940d ago (Edited 2940d ago )

Sony wins as far as software selection goes, but I don't think they can overcome Microsoft/Nintendo consoles sales. Sony marketing freaking blows, as many people buy a 360 instead of a PS3 because they think that the PS3 can't play DVD's and only blu-ray movies.

I hate to say it, but Sony should "sell out" as far as the marketing campaign goes. Only game footage of Madden, signstar, Rockband, and the Video store should be shown. If anything EYEPET should be the entire focus of the holiday blitz.

I still to this day, don't believe any Wii only owners will upgrade and become a more hardcore audience without some kind of bridge to bring them over to the dark side.

Console marketing is what wins the "war" that and discovery of high definition.

leila012940d ago

I love threads like this, it helps me expand my ignore list.

Jaces2940d ago

Well hell. With all the delays, the only games going to be left by the time the holidays roll on by will be multiplat. lol =P

heroicjanitor2940d ago

If you mean sales, it looks set to beat the 360 but I expect a wii price drop/new colour and then the wii will sell the most this holiday season. *sigh* wouldn't it be nice to have it so easy....

Immortal Kaim2940d ago

Oh god it never ends, these sh*tty opinion pieces are clogging up this site. Look at everyone lap it up.

I love my PS3 as much as the next guy, but some of you fanboys would gladly eat a steaming pile of sh*t if it was produced by Sony, same for the MS fanboys...

Omegasyde2940d ago

I would gladly eat the sh** if the Sh** was in 1080p and ran at 60 frames per second while I was ingesting it.

I would eat the DLc for the Sh** as well, if the Sh** including exclusive timed utensils.

Christopher2940d ago

Oh, go figure, these type of articles are just as annoying when they're about the PS3 just as they are when they're about the Xbox 360.

cayal2940d ago

sheesh, none of those three things are even confirmed to be happening.

soxfan20052940d ago (Edited 2940d ago )

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Having the best lineup on paper means NOTHING if you can't deliver where and when it really counts. Just ask the Yankees.

ALSO - the supposed 70% reduction in manufacturing costs does NOT mean that Sony will (hypothetically) open it's PS3 factory doors one morning to discover that a PS3 is miraculously 70% cheaper to produce than it was the day before. The 70% is probably off of the original $800-$900 cost of production, and not off of the current $450 (or so) cost. Production cost reductions are gradual - anyone who follows video games knows that.

el zorro2940d ago

All of this is rampant speculation. Even if it all came true, it would be foolish to think Microsoft would just sit back on their laurels. My personal prediction is that the 360 will see greater hardware and software sales than the PS3 this holiday season. But hey, I might be wrong. We just don't know how things are going to turn out yet. Too many unknowns.

ThanatosDMC2940d ago

I'm just surprised that Forza devs stopped touting their horns.

JD_Shadow2940d ago

This article is asking a hypothetical question that could have an interesting answer. Remember, you don't HAVE to agree with what they said, but respect that they have that opinion and are willing to debate it and put it out in the open. Why is that a crime to do? It wasn't immature, it's using facts to back up their opinion, and they are taking legit things that have a serious chance of happening into the equation. This isn't flamebait (then again, it's only "viable" if it's blindly slamming the PS3 at every turn, I guess).

@soxfan: "Having the best lineup on paper means NOTHING if you can't deliver where and when it really counts. Just ask the Yankees."

The Yankees haven't delivered since 2001, and they have the richest front office in the MLB and offers tons of money to big stars that don't produce once they get there! No wonder they are "overrated"!

aueslander2940d ago

Heaing the "Well, all 200,000 of my friends and fmaily that I hae talked to are waiting for the price drop to get a PS3 so since everyone I know who plays games is doing that then everyone must be doing that as well," crap that people put out. I mean one, no one cares if you know 1 or 1 million people who are going to buy a ps3 but yyour friends and or family are not a full representation of everyone on the planet that plays games.

Its the same whe you hear "Well, I have 10 friends who are all on their 45th xbox and all say that if it RROD's on them again they are going PS3," crap that people spew.

Finally, the 360 is no slouch this winter either. You have Halo ODST in September (yes, it may not do as much as a man halo title but look at Halo Wars, its an RTS that, in the US at least, has outsold KZ2) that shows a lot of promise (sandbox FPS game) as well as Forza 3 and even though it is multi plat, Moder Warfare 2 in November will sell a nice bit on the 360 (i think it will sell more on 360 than the ps3) as well and I am sure there are some I am forgetting as well.

try not to play the fanboy card since I have both a 360 and PS3 but my 360 gets played more right now.

Also, Sony does have some good games coming but, hyped PS3 only games recently avent been flying off the shelves as much as expected so far this year. What I mean is that true, sales dont always mean jack but if games dont move then it is bad for the publisher and the studio that made the game and if you love it then there are sequel concerns as well. THough decent games, let's face it, KZ2 was not the 800 lb Halo killing (or at least matching) beast that all the hype would lead you to believe it was supposed to be at retail and Infamous, though also hyped pretty decently, was overtaken by Prototype and hasnt really pushed as many as the hype and fanboy praise would make you think it woulf. As for this season, GY5 will prob really be the only exclusive to maych the hype. Yea, God of War might as well, though that is not til march. Uncharted 2 I think is turning into another KZ2, hyped to death but when it comes to PS3 players going out and buying it, they will go in decent numbers but nothing like rabid metal gear, halo, COD, or gears fans do when those games come out.

Yes, I know I will hear numbers/sales dont mean jack but how would you quantify a winner? SOny or MS could release 5 super hyped, supposed AAAAAAAAA titles before black friday and if they only move a few hundred thousand each, they will be a flop and not register a win.

Its like your fave sports team, you dont care what others say or even their record what it is cas long as you enjoy watching them and stay a fan, but if your team (im going to use NFL here) finishes 0-16 and gets blown out every game, you cant really just say "Well, they are my fave team and I dont care how they did (equate wins and loses with sales) because it only matters what I think of them and I still think they are the best," because nbo matter how much you love them, at the end of the day, wins are what matters most and to crown a winner, usually the team with the best record is in fact the best team.

BattleAxe2940d ago

PS3 Slim + Price Cut + GT5 + Uncharted 2 + R&C = WIN

2009 + Infamous + Killzone 2 = WON
2010 + God of War 3 + Quantum + Heavy Rain = WIN

It would seem that I already knew this.......

aueslander2940d ago (Edited 2940d ago )

...I could say

early 2009: Halo Wars + Protoype=win (IF you look at numbers)

Holiday 2009: ODST + Forza 3 + MW2 (yes multiplat but still a HUGE seller) + I bet a $50 cut to 360 IF PS3 drops to $299= WIN FOR MS

2010: Splinter Cell + Alan Wake + Reach + Lost Planet 2 (still CONSOLE exclusive to 360 for now) + (and a HUGE PLUS and still 360 exclusive to console) Mass Effect 2 + FF13 (yes a multi plat but if you have only a 360 and want it why pay out $300 or more for a PS3 when you can get on 360) = WIN FOR MS and that is not even counting a more than likely Gears 3

See how easy that is to do? Now, stop being a fanboy and pay everything. I do for the most part (though still no wii yet)

I just hope no one brings up the "Well, most of thsoe are PC so they aint exclusice," because as far as consoles go, if you can only play a game on ONE console, it is still exclusive to the CONSOLE MARKET. Also, most people prefer consoles and would buy games for a console instead of having to pay like $1000 or more for a PC to play the game at the specs that the 360 put out anyway. Also, MS is making money both ways as though PCs are not MS, since they RUN ON WINDOWS then the game would still be company exclusve in that if you dont run windows, your sony viao couldnt run said games. Also, FF14 is coming to the PC so if ayone tries to pint out exclusivity for FF14 just shut up now.

FInaly, calling out games on the 360 as not being exclusive due to them being available on the PC would be like calling out say God of War as not being exclusive since you can get a version of it on the PSP, both still run sony OS's so they are still Sony exclusive.

Damn, I wrote way too much.

siyrobbo2940d ago

I just hope that the slim does come with a price drop, and they dont do what they did with the psp go and release it at a marked up price. The only thing stopping me from buying a PS3 is the price, as soon as it drops below £200 im going to get one straight away.

aueslander2940d ago

....that within a few days of a cut to the PS3 to $299 (if there will be one) you will see MS drop the price of the 60 gig pro by $50 to $249.

Say what you will about MS, but they are a smart and ruthless company that knows that your average joe consumer is retarded and if said consumer goes to buy lil Johnny or lil Judy a game system for the Holidays, in this economy looking at $299 for a system vs $249 for a system (and maybe even a minor cut to the arcade ptting it down to $179) average joe will get the cheaper system (im not putting the wii into this equation).

So, a $299 PS3 would spike sales some but, as soon as MS drops the price of the 360 to match (and we all know they probably will) the spike will even out.

Hell, I wouldnt be shocked at all if MS drops the price of the arcade to $99 and leave the Pro at $299.

cmrbe2940d ago

That's some funny stuff there.