I remeber reading that RE4 nearly maxed out the wii, maybe that wasnt true but who knows? Maybe they plan to bring a console out this gen that will actually be "this gen" to compete with the aperant longevity of the xbox360 and PS3. dont think we willl see a new iteration of thoose to for a few years yet.
judging by what happened this gen this is what im predicting
next consoles sony and microsoft will create some insanely powerful monster waste a$$ loads of money sell em at a loss
nintendo will come out with a system that has ps3/360 graphics waste less money on parts and the repeat begins then they will just laugh their way to the bank again
but honestly i think around the next consoles all 3 of em will be like the ps2 era where the graphics were all basically the same not much different maybe they will all advance motion even more and concentrate on a new feature thy will all bring to the table
im sorry but thats plain stupid. y would nintendo want to make a "this gen" system when a last gen system sold so well. they print money by selling wii's. makes more sense to just slap some newer tech, change the look and call it the wii 2. bundle it with wii fit ++ or something retarded like that.
better yet add a built in camera and some other useless junk drop the price a bit and call it the "Wii I"
Well, its like car racing. Ninti tried a 2 stop strategy while everybody is doing 1 stop (well, MS forgot to fill up the tank to make the last lap). LOL (sorry, couldn't resist).
What is sad ju MS has no gas but SONY has been unable to past them even with the crowd cheering for them the most LOL. I know it sounds like a fan boy but remember I'm not a fan of the xbox I'm one of those crazy Wii fans!
There is so much you will not get on the HD console right now due to the power limits they have. I think many people will be happy with the next gen of consoles and even trade ins may go down. Oh yeah if motion controls come to the HD system so will ports of Wii games LOL and the mini games it had LOL because the same HD companies that make these games will try them on the HD console since they have the dev system already. That is going to be hilarious! I bet there is some one porting Wii code over to the xbox and PS3 right now!
Seriously you seem like some one that is into tech. The GPUs that are out now and the current programming models that even intel is coming up with will be the birth of true multicore gaming. Even the GPUs out right now are more programmable than what the cell can handle. Check out Nvida's cuda and intels complier, seriously it makes coding for the PS3 like coding for the xbox 360, full use of the resources. That is good design right there!
I mean with the war chest nintendo has they may not have to use it because cost will drop that low.
What would be crazy is to see a system with 3 Wii systems taped together and a crazy GPU set up. They could just add a great FPU to each chip and use the fixed shader set up like the SPUs with Sram that would be pretty ridiculous speed wise. Ha that would almost be like the xbox and the PS3 taped together.
Yet ATI has been quite very quite and so has IBM. Intel is acting a lot like MS right now... and seriously I would see natal working best with the larrabee than the xbox 360.
I really hope SONY fixes the PS3NEXT. If the rumor are correct the next sony system will have a larrabee in it which would be crazy. also they really need to hit a certain console budget to get Wii numbers next gen. Brute force doesn't work just ask PC gamers and they will tell you hey where is every one at?
Oh yeah crysis will max out the PS3 and if nintendo does go super tech on us they will learn a lot from crytek... nintendo heeds to call those guys up really fast.
Man it would be so crazy to see intel chips in all of the console next gen.
lol,they will use old azz xbox360 type graphics for there next console i bet lol. imagine playn mario if nintendo decided to go with wot type of graphics sony or ms will use in the next consoles,would be cool
hopefully by then this motion control would have faded abit,cause lets face it. it just doenst work for REAL gamers. its fun for more casual party games etc
Not sure. I think Ninti has established themselves pretty well thru their controls. This will most likely stay. But Metroid or Tiger Woods with higher precision in full 1080p might have something. Newer hard core titles are looking good, too.
I still hope, the others don't try to be copy cats, because those systems are complimentary and both together make a whole picture. Hope that stays that way.
They said that when the companies acan bring out any more juice out of the wii then they will realease it so that means in a few months LOL or maybe a year. Anyways I think nintendo and microsoft need to realease a new console.
why the wii should 1.outdated graphics 2.poor motion support 3.too many perhiphieals 4.too many bad games 5. overpriced
Why the 360 should 1.the dvd format 2.not enough exclusives 3. can't really do better graphics with that crappy disc and cpu(maybe gpu can't remmember) and not good enough graphics card
Why release a new console if they are making tons of profit(Nintendo). I think it's Sony who should rethink. PS3 is not that much greater than Xbox 360 in terms of graphics and it costs 2 times as much as the 360.
1 the cell is a failed idea 2 blu ray will be the next laser disk 3 uncompressed content and a system with the same amount of ram is really smart, well not really you loose your advantage to show high quality textures. LOL hey if you want lots of FMV in HD then your fine! 4 SONY needs more power to make fun games obviously their first party is getting crushed by wii sport and halo, that is horrible! 5 This may stop the bleeding and help sony get those casual core gamers back. Most people bought their PS2s when the price drop happened. 6 the system is being propped up by fanboys only...and mad ex-xbox owners LOL. 7 Only 6 year olds believe the cell is more powerful than a core duo . Or any of the other hype SONY and friend spews. Every one know graphic whore move fast and the next pretty game is just a matter of art now!
Actually, the PS3 motion controller shown at E3 could be a very good controller for Sony's next console, if they don't release it too late (when Nintendo or Microsoft will show their next console, or when Wii gaming will be outdated in people's mind).
An enhanced Wii-like gameplay with PS3's power may give birth to a great console. I wonder what Nintendo are planning to attract the mass market. Will it be a totally new system or a simple evolution of Wii's technology (with Wii Motion Plus controllers, an upgraded hardware, true HD games, etc...)?
2011 will be 6 yrs for the Wii, so by tradition SuperWii or WiiHD should be available by then. But the question I have is how powerful will this be over the PS3 itself.
Even if this is more powerful than the PS3, Sony will not be worried. But this will force MS to put out a new console, imho.
I'm curious. Can they build a machine today, which can beat the PS360 and still sell for a competitive price ? A modern gpu easily can, but then, you need 512MB/1GB vram and the power consumption of those chips doesn't make it suitable for a sub $300 console. If that price is the target, I think it will be marginal faster then the PS3, but not much, I can imagine. I'm curious if they'll break with the PowerPC and/or ATI and go either Larrabee or some AMD/ATI combo.
Considering you can get a 6000 or 7000 class nvidia GPU for around 23 - 99 dollars and these guys would get it even cheaper it would be very easy to make a Wii more powerful than the HD stuff right now. Now an 8800 would be around 99 dollar now. The HD systems are not even close to those specs. I mean come on 24+ pipes for the shaders is way lower than what we have not on PCs. Try 300-500 shader engines now. The lowest 200 series GPu is around $130 right now and that has specs ranging around here 250 GPU Engine Specs: Processor Cores 128 Graphics Clock (MHz) 738 MHz Processor Clock (MHz) 1836 MHz Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec) 47.2 Memory Specs: Memory Clock (MHz) 1100 MHz Standard Memory Config 512MB or 1 GB GDDR3 Memory Interface Width 256-bit Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 70.4 Feature Support: NVIDIA SLI®-ready* 2-way/3-Way GeForce 3D Vision Ready yes NVIDIA PureVideo® Technology* HD NVIDIA PhysX™-ready yes * NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology yes Microsoft DirectX 10 OpenGL 3.0 Certified for Windows Vista yes Display Support: Maximum Digital Resolution 2560x1600 Maximum VGA Resolution 2048x1536 Standard Display Connectors Two Dual Link DVI Multi Monitor yes HDCP* yes HDMI* yes Audio Input for HDMI SPDIF Standard Graphics Card Dimensions: Height 4.376 inches (111 mm) Length 9 inches (228.6 mm) Width Dual-slot Thermal and Power Specs: Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 105 C Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) 150 W Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 450 W Supplementary Power Connectors
yet the top of the line is here
295 GPU Engine Specs: Processor Cores 480 ( 240 per GPU ) Graphics Clock (MHz) 576 MHz Processor Clock (MHz) 1242 MHz Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec) 92.2 Memory Specs: Memory Clock (MHz) 999 MHz Standard Memory Config 1792 MB GDDR3 ( 896MB per GPU ) Memory Interface Width 896-bit ( 448-bit per GPU ) Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 223.8 Feature Support: NVIDIA SLI®-ready* Quad GeForce 3D Vision Ready yes NVIDIA PureVideo® Technology* HD NVIDIA PhysX™-ready yes * NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology yes Microsoft DirectX 10 OpenGL 2.1 Certified for Windows Vista yes Display Support: Maximum Digital Resolution 2560x1600 Maximum VGA Resolution 2048x1536 Standard Display Connectors Two Dual Link DVI HDMI Multi Monitor yes HDCP* yes HDMI* yes Audio Input for HDMI SPDIF Standard Graphics Card Dimensions: Height 4.376 inches (111 mm) Length 10.5 inches (267 mm) Width Dual-slot Thermal and Power Specs: Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 105 C Maximum Graphics Card Power (W) 289 W Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 680 W Supplementary Power Connectors 6-pin & 8-pin
Ram is dirt cheap.... even cheaper if bought in bulk. $ 98.89 - ddr2-533 pc2-4200 8gb That is just a crazy amount of ram for that price.
Nintendo actually makes their own flash right? Well if not solid state disk is what they are going to use for sure. Flash prices will keep dropping like a rock.
They could just put 3 Wii cpus in there and be just fine LOL with a die shrink and a respin they can push the thing to 4ghz easy, IBM has done it before.
Yeah they could do this pretty easily right now. But here is the deal they are crushing the other guys with a tenth of the power of the HD consoles. Until nintendo start selling more metroids or zeldas or other hardcore games you guys claim don't exist then they don't need to do any thing. That for the guys who claim there is no hardcore games but the next Wii is going to be a problem for SONY and MS. The current excuses will just look silly. It's possible nintendo next gen could be what makes HD gaming fun simply because some one will have a whole console to make a GT or forza(sp) killer or a FPS that neither MS or SONY can touch. What you see happening now will be multiplied next gen. MS and SONY only hope is to make a system that matches the price point of most gamers rather than the few.
The funny thing is the epic guys will make a game on a nintendo console if larrabee is on it but if they don't I don't think many will cry.
The next gen is going to be fun though.... this was a great learning gen.
i think the future of both the xbox and ps3 consoles will be pretty much the same as what we got now. the wii needs some upgrades which they can do in a few years when the techs cheap enough that they turn a crazy ass profit.
think about it for a sec, whats after 1080p res on a tv? nothing yet, HD isn't mainstream yet. y upgrade graphics? there seems to be no point. i think xbox and the ps3 should find something else to improve on other then graphics.
keep the consoles the same except for a few adjustments(for the xbox tho full 1080p standard would be nice) mb redesign them a bit, new controllers, new internal software, lower price tag then slap a new name and sell it.
...if they came out with the most hardcore console xD! I mean they have the cash now =P just make a beast with octa-core dual graphics card beast that can run 2 CRYSIS' games AT THE SAME TIME completely maxed out...
yet only release mario galaxy 3 and wii motion extra plus =P
to many shovel ware games and to many ps2 games and to be honest its not a next gen machine what people make it out to be it basically has ps2 port games and the same graphics with last gen technolgy it a game cube remake and the next nintendo will be the same as with the wii dont get me wrong i use to supprt nintendo but no more nes snes n64 game cube but sony is where the games are playing mario 64 mario galaxy mario sunshine mario kart 64 mario kart snes mariokart wii ive loist all nintendo had and if sega were still in market ive wouldve brought there machine
i guess since SM is only possible on the wii's processing power, that must mean they maxed out the wii. lol, so they need a new console.
who isn't working on a new console? most likely all 3 of em gave their new consoles being worked on as we speak
but anyways will this be another one that will make nintendo roll around in millions i wonder im betting yes
After their conference, I would too. ^_^
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