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Submitted by Pandemic 2594d ago | rumor

PS4 to be Released in 2012

Gameplayer Writes:
One thing about the PlayStation 3 is that it's a bit lifeless. Its user interface is cold, sterile and lacking in character. It's utilitarian and in many ways sucks much of the fun out of being a gamer. On top of this, Sony has been quite slow to implement features from its competitors that are, quite frankly, absolutely necessary if you wish to foster any kind of warmth or loyalty from your customers. (Culture, PS3, Tech)

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Breakfast  +   2594d ago
Considering Uncharted 2 is already maxing out the ps3... assuming 2012 would be a safe bet. Maybe even 2010.

But anyways, ill be looking forward to my xbox 720, in the year 2015!

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thebudgetgamer  +   2594d ago
even if it did i looks amazing were the 360 was maxed out by a multi plat lol

Raoh  +   2594d ago
i'm still waiting for the xbox 360 to get out of hardware beta testing.
Blademask  +   2594d ago
Breakfast had a good start, but yeah. PS3 maxing out jokes don't stick, when multiplats max out 360 games. And when its most advanced game, uses th...
The Budget Gamer gets 1 point.
CryofSilence  +   2594d ago
I still don't think Uncharted is maxing it out. Killzone only used 60% of the SPUs (Naughty Dog claims to use 100%), but that doesn't mean they used 60% of the PS3 power. There are other components involved.
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Jamegohanssj5  +   2594d ago
ROFLMAO! Beta Testing

thor  +   2594d ago

This "maxing out the console" stuff is nonsense.

Of course the developers are going to push THEIR ENGINE until it can't handle any more objects on-screen. That's what happened with Red Faction. A game can quite easily use all the POWER of a console - but the algorithms and methods used might not be the most EFFICIENT ones. The 3D artists, animators and texture artists might not be as good as those in another studio. That's what's going to make the difference, that and time spent on polishing the game. This is part of the reason that MGS4 looked so good.

The dev from Red Faction was only boasting about how their game used all of the 360's RAM. Wahey. It doesn't mean graphics aren't going to get any better.
meepmoopmeep  +   2594d ago
if that above controller (article image) doesn't come out for the PS4
that means Sony lied again.

i would love that controller.
HDgamer  +   2594d ago
Breakfast I bet you wonder why you have two bubbles and opinions so oblivious to reality that medication couldn't cure ignorance.
Covenant  +   2593d ago
Y'all need to stop taking Breakfast so seriously...I mean, 50 disagrees? He's just trying to add humor and break up a potential flame war.

Hence, the smiley.
Mozilla89  +   2593d ago
Sounds about right, I'd expect a new xbox in late 2011. I wonder if they're gonna rush for that head start again.
Obama  +   2593d ago
Logic - 1
Breakfast - 0
Itrguy001  +   2593d ago
i really do hope that u did give your account to someone else man u have gone down so far and fast in the eyes of many ppl
JOEdANGEL  +   2593d ago
Who effin cares about maxing out anyway? The Xbox was better graphically than PS2 from day one yet the PS2 outsold it more than 5 to 1. Cripes look at Persona 4 just coming out. That game is obviously dated, yet people still like it.

What I'm trying to say is that the games themselves, not just the graphics is what sells a system.
Graphics Whore  +   2593d ago
Nah, Breakfast knows what he's doing.
jammy_70  +   2593d ago
but they said killzone 2 was coming out in 2007....if you get me....
SL1M DADDY  +   2593d ago
My PS3's user interface is not cold and lifeless....
I'm using the LBP theme!

As for the article, it is simple silly to speculate and doing so is just proving once again that we have another site that muddies up the interwebs with silly fud and inconsistencies.
Saint Sony  +   2593d ago
"Breakfast had a good start, but yeah. PS3 maxing out jokes don't stick, when multiplats max out 360 games. And when its most advanced game, u...
Multiplats maxin 360 out?... no wonder those multiplats do look 500% better in 360 than PS3.
Ryudo  +   2593d ago
This is possibly the best example of enraged nerds gone wild on the internet, Bravo!

And as for saying that multi plat maxing out the 360. Way to prove your own stupidity is all I can say. It used all the 360's RAM and guess what the PS3 and 360 have about the same amount r-tards.
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trancefreak  +   2594d ago
next gen doesnt happen until sony says it does :)
Breakfast  +   2594d ago
You say that like its a good thing...
Nice job paying $600 for a last gen system.

thebudgetgamer  +   2594d ago
i paid 400
and almost eveything about the 360 is last gen except horse power

trancefreak  +   2594d ago
It was and my nvidia 8800gtx was $620 for the pc. Best purchases ever.
chanto23  +   2594d ago
@ Breakfast
Xbox 360.... DVD
.... no blu-tooth wireless
.... internet browser included...NOTTTT
.... built-in Wi-Fi...NEGATIVE
.... 2 AA batteries inside the controller...CHECK....
.... HDMI 1.3...hummm i don't think so
.... old school disk tray...YOU BET!!!!

i'm tired of pointing out guy guys keep it going...
Man_of_the_year  +   2593d ago
8 million console lead over the PS3...Check
iNcRiMiNaTi  +   2593d ago
is last gen hardware that bad?
last time i checked u just slap on motion controls to last gen hardware and you'd have trouble supplying stores trying to keep up with the demands and dominate this console generation
chewy317  +   2593d ago
8 million rrods check.
gametheory  +   2593d ago
Hey breakfast
Nice job for paying a yearly fee for a service that doesn't work.


I pay for that AND for a "last gen" system that was 600. Everyone wins except me! =(
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Man_of_the_year  +   2593d ago
What a pathetic attempt at being whity. If you were going to make that comment you should have said "9,240,000 mil RROD" Check....because if the 33% failure rate is still accurate - then 33% of 28 mil would be 9,240,000. But leave it to a Droid to not come up with a whity response.

You = Fail

@ gametheory - i pay for XBL and it works fine for me. Love it. Much better then the "free" service i get with PSN. If the PSN was like XBL - i would pay for that too - but you get what you pay for.
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Bloodwar  +   2593d ago
I just bought my 8800 GTX
used for 162 dollars. I have to install in this weekend once I get my new power supply. I just hope it works and I wasn't sent a broken one.
Scottama  +   2593d ago
Except Mangina_of_the_year, you n0bhead, he was being witty as he was simply recycling figures YOU produced. Humour is quite often not quite based on reality.

But nice job pointing out that the RROD problem is a bigger one that we thought ;-)
Real slick there, Holmes!
big shadow  +   2594d ago
for some reason I get goosebumps every time I see that picture above.
Bathyj  +   2594d ago
I know, its creepy ay?

Its like a DS3 with boils.
ultimolu  +   2593d ago
I hear ya dude. o_o
evilmonkey501  +   2593d ago
i know
its strange, yet desirable, kinda like a girl with 3 boobs...
Sibs  +   2594d ago
And how exactly can one use a controller with so many buttons? Very carefully...
Panthers  +   2594d ago
2012 is the apocalypse and we will all have radioactive radiation give us extra fingers...


The PS4 would be a fitting end to this world lol.
InMyOpinion  +   2594d ago
PS5 to be released in 2020!

Xbox 1080 to be released in 2018!

Wii 4 to be released in 2032!

All of a sudden I feel like Hiphopgamer...
ToastyMcNibbles  +   2594d ago
lmao you forgot to add question marks in there makes for a more compelling headline
chanto23  +   2594d ago
i don't like Jenzo...
But that was some funny sh1t...
tda-danny  +   2594d ago
I ripped on ya yesterday, but props for that sir!

ultimolu  +   2593d ago

Have a bubble from me as well.
likedamaster  +   2593d ago
"" lmao you forgot to add question marks in there jenzo ""

InMyOpinion  +   2593d ago
Bubbles back to everyone!?
mercenarie  +   2594d ago
Before we see any mention of the next PS console
SONY will try to recuperate losses and build the PS3 install base. I highly doubt the system will be released in 2012, it's more likely were going to hear about the plan to build a new Playstation rather then it's release.

Lets look at the reasons gameplayer has listed to merit a PS4.

"Trophy implementation has been schizophrenic, with gamers unsure whether the titles that they buy will contain support for the addictive little blighters." - gameplayer

First and foremost, we all read a article that was posted months ago regarding the mandatory trophy feature on every game in the works for 2009. SO let's not cry about it until the end of 09.

"There’s also the fact that the PS3 included game installs to the HDD from launch." - gameplayer

We can avoid the hefty installations if the developers were more like Naughty Dog and Guerrilla Games. Personally to me its not a huge problem, considering it takes equal time or longer to install a game on the PC. For those whining about the amount of free space left, i suggest you go out and purchase a larger hard drive. We all know that the future of gaming on PS3 and 360 will be more games *stand alone and DLC* movies, music, purchasable through the store.

They also mention a redesign of the PS six axis controller, just in time for the supposed armageddon/end of the world. Luckily for us, this design will only work after we transform into hideous beasts.
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Rhoic  +   2593d ago
Exactly.. since Sony is as you said, still trying to get out of their losses, they would only shoot themselves in the foot by launching another console. Not to mention lose just about the entire fan base for making them buy the PS3.
360RRODFIX  +   2594d ago
Hate hate PS3, but you can't stop it, no one can! Muahahahahha!!!!
pippoppow  +   2593d ago
Fanboy sites desperate to downplay PS3 in 09
PS4 coming out soon, PS3 on last legs, Dry 09 gaming lineup, In last place because it has too many features, etc. PS3 is looking to have the superior 09, so now comes out all the negative biased opinions flooding the Net. The PS3's 09 lineup IS looking very formidable, isn't it?!
Unicron  +   2594d ago
In this thread - People will argue over an article that is ENTIRELY based on useless speculation! Hurray! This is indeed newsworthy!

Tomorrow - Why Wii 2 will come with Nipple Shock Action Controllers! Fun for the whole family!

Thursday - Join us for a report on how the Xbox 721 suffers from the dreaded CRIMSON OVAL OF DOOM, and an amazing 88% failure rate!

Zeevious  +   2594d ago
Unicron, you forgot the headlines just in today for...
Elvis's Haze II : Graceland Assault

Also don't forget Lara Croft & Elmo's Exclusive baby pictures!

Hey...aren't you late for a dinner with Galactus?

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Cajun Chicken  +   2594d ago
I fail to agree with anything in that articles sypnopsis.
Fruit Loops  +   2594d ago
I smell
bull$h!t articles
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OGharryjoysticks  +   2594d ago
2012 is not 10 years
Sony said 10 years.
elexdc  +   2594d ago
10 years is how long they support a system, not how long it'll be till the next one comes out.
Lumbo  +   2594d ago
not 10 years till the next console *facepalm* 10 years lifetime for the product. PS2 will still be supported in 2010 , resulting in a total minimum support time of 10 years (2000- 2010)

Normally you see the next gen released 5 years into the lifetime of the "old" system. PS1 released around 1995, PS2 released in 2000 and the PS3 was supposed to release in 2005, but was delayed a year due to the delay in BluRay diode production that was not planned in the original timeline. Therefor the release of the PS4 would also be delayed, i.e. to 2011 (instead of 2010) or more likely to 2012 ...
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Batzi  +   2594d ago
Totally agree with elexdc.
GiantEnemyLobster  +   2594d ago
There isn't going to be a PS4.
Thats like saying the Dreamcast 2 is going to come out someday. Just won't happen because the Dreamcast along with Sega flopped, just like Sony and the PS3 are soon to do.
Surfman  +   2594d ago
or maybe you could just shut your mouth?
geda  +   2594d ago
seriously, lobster, go f*** yourself. you used to be funny, but now you're just trying to upset people.
Magic_The_Celt  +   2594d ago
See, that would only make sense if the dreamcast HAD got to Dreamcast 3 and then flopped


Yeah, there is going to be a PS4 :) and PS3 isnt going to die in 2009 (i f*cking love this new one, man i got so many faces to laugh in come 201)
Oner  +   2593d ago
GiantEnemyLobster  +   2593d ago
@ 1.4
You know Sega has had previous consoles before the Dreamcast, correct? Just because they weren't called the dreamcast doesn't mean they weren't gaming consoles.

PotNoodle  +   2593d ago
Microsoft brought out another xbox did they not?
TheOutsider  +   2593d ago
Don't be mad just because your b@#$@# a$$ system will be rotting this year because it failed to give you 1 good game to play! ha ha your a punk A$$ with CRABS!!
Mc187  +   2593d ago
funny stuff

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Bathyj  +   2594d ago
So now even the interface, which is the best I've ever seen and is incredibly easy to use, sucks the fun out of gaming.

Riiiight? Anything else? The black finish reminds you of piano lessons when you were a kid, and you now hate piano?

Maybe the concave shape looks too much like an aeroplane wing and your dad died in a planecrash? Evil Sony.

Free online, reminds you of a free coupon you got from a guy in a chicken suit, but it turned out to be expired and you had to fight him on 3 separate occassions?

God, this is getting beyond pathetic. I almost wish I couldn't read.
likedamaster  +   2593d ago
The best you've ever seen? You mean, "the best you've ever seen from the PSP, exactly the same." Shouldn't have been in a console too. If I agree with anything in this article it's the lack of a console interface for the PS3. Is that the best Sony could do for an interface on such an expensive console... copy the psp?

Before you spew anti this anti that I was just explaining why I disagree. No hit & run here.
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Bathyj  +   2593d ago
Hey I have no problem with you disagreeing, all I ask is that you consider my meaning.

For starters I have no problem with them copying the XMB from the PSP if it works well. Hell I wish my Bravia had it instead of the clunky menus it has now. I'm a, if it aint broke dont fix it kind of guy, but I still like refinement to better a good concept.

Second, even if you're not a fan of the XMB, my point was, Is it sucking the fun out of gaming? A pretty harsh assessment of a graphic interface dont you think.

If I had to pick something that was sucking the fun out of gaming it would be fanboys and the media, bunch of FKN Gloom merchants.
evilmonkey501  +   2593d ago
sony xmb
is used in tv's and a/v processors as well....actually almost exclusively in their high end gear

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rockleex  +   2593d ago
XMB was created before PSP
Especially if you have a Sony Vaio, it would most likely come with a media browser that resembled the XMB but was 3D instead. I think it was even called the Cross Media Bar too, or something really similar.

They basically refined that idea and got the XMB for the PSP.

But even the PlayStation controller's looks has remained the same through 3 generations. Don't fix it if its not broken, but always improve upon it.
Hot_tea  +   2594d ago
"Its user interface is cold, sterile and lacking in character."

Total fangirl drivel.
XMB = the slickest and most intuitive menu system out there.
NXE = f4ggy looking avatars that do NOTHING and advertising out the 4ss.

TheExecutive  +   2594d ago
I have a tendency to believe this is correct. By that time the Cell2 will be usable... at least i think...
HungPHAT  +   2594d ago
the artical is pretty close to the truth I've read in a long time , sony's had no base when they launched the PS3 , the build as we go just dosen't work .. Sorry that's my opinion I love Sony , but they messed up this time around
tda-danny  +   2594d ago
sony messed up?
Xbox = 3(and a bit) years & 28mil = 9.3333 mil/year
PS3 = 2(and a bit) years & 19mil = 9.5 mil/year

Yea, Sony sure dropped the ball...

Both consols are doing great!
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FinalomegaS  +   2593d ago
@ tda-danny
You said, Sony didn't drop the ball? According to what you wrote..

Xbox360 = 3(and a bit) years & 28mil = 9.3333 mil/year
PS3 = 2(and a bit) years & 19mil = 9.5 mil/year

Let's see last gen user base.

xbox 1 = 25 mil
PS2 = 120 mil

Now MS has already surpassed their 1st system user base and gotten more new ones. I know it wasn't much but they were the new guy on the block.

Sony on the other hand, might of expected the PS brand to fly faster due to the brand loyalty and huge user base, but that didn't happen because maybe most of those 120 mil were casual gamers also. I'm just trying to point out that it can look like they did drop the ball so to speak, but maybe they are planning on BR to pick it up to the same level. But then that's the same thing as PS2, have the DVD included to help with sales. MS deserves credit for taking on Sony and Nintendo at their own game but maybe they'll get it right the 3rd time? 2011 sounds better.
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Chubear  +   2593d ago
Dude, the PS2 didn't sell 150mill in 2yrs dude. As a matter of fact, I believe the PS3 slightly out sold the numbers the PS2 did in the same time period.

It wasn't until the PS2's 4th year with it's big price drop when it just blew the competition into oblivion and never looked back. It was similar to the PS1 in it's 4th year... what you think the PS3 will do at the end of year 4 when it is now selling better than the PS1&2 in the same time frame?

... you need the bread crumbs closer?
RedGr3mlin  +   2594d ago
That was a realy good read,,,,
Just had 2 say that
Kugar77  +   2594d ago
how did this get approved?
should have [rumor] tag or something, its just speculation
xionpunk  +   2594d ago
@ Zeevious OMG! Why is elmo eating that baby!?
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mrkeith  +   2594d ago
i dont think that it will be released by 2012. i think it will go for the full lifespan that sony says. (i think it was 10 yrs?) the new graphic cards will barely be coming out in 2012. it would be wiser to hold back on the release of the ps4. they would probably make more money if they held out.(since everything will be cheaper.)
AriesFury  +   2594d ago
This is crap. Because if this was "true" than that would mean that the PS3 has failed and Sony is too arrogant to admit that.
AriesFury  +   2593d ago
Why the disagreement? What I said is true. Read it first before judging.
ChanDangle  +   2594d ago
They could possibly use the cell processor again in there next console to cut back on r&d and just upgrade the graphics card, sorta like the wii. Sell it cheaper out the gate.
name  +   2594d ago
Ps3 interface is lifeless and sucks the fun out of being a gamer? Sigh
na2ru1  +   2594d ago
It has to be pretty and colourful
Rii-poffs could have saved it from being lifeless.
DHAV0K  +   2593d ago
no but
the 6 axis is pretty lifeless
ReTarDedFisHy  +   2594d ago
Wow gameplayer.
There's just so many things wrong with this article.
kosovo  +   2593d ago
Sony determines when nex-gen begins.
Death  +   2593d ago
We will see a PS4 when the next Xbox launches.
It will be an enhanced version of the PS3 with full backwards compatability so the two can exist together on store shelves at the same time. Look for it to be based on the PS3, but with more system memory and a faster Blu-Ray drive. The Cell will most likely be tweaked just to give it a new marketing name. I expect this console to launch for $399 or less. By that time Sony will be making a profit on PS3 hardware sales and the jump in technology won't be enough to drive up manufacturing costs past the retail price. It should be a money maker from day one or close to it.

In reality there wouldn't be much of a need for new hardware, but they will still need to put something out there that is marketed towards the hard core that would be tempted with a next gen console. Sony will not be late to the next party and they will not over price themselves with risky tech.

CAPT IRISH  +   2593d ago
2012 seems to early for the ps4
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LeShin  +   2593d ago
I fully agree with you Captain. I never understand the fascination with rushing to get the next piece of hardware ESPECIALLY since the graphics will not make a huge leap the next time round. People are complaining about the price of the PS3 now? lol what, you think Sony (or anyone else) is going to release a console with graphics that make the PS3 look stupid and more features just to sell it for a price of a Wii and STILL make a profit?!

Yeah, good luck with that.

And people tend to forget, the more powerful the console, the longer the development time for software to actually maximise it's potential is going to take (GT5 anyone?)

Just keep the games coming Sony, I'll be happy with that. Hey, I still buy games for my PS2!
Covenant  +   2593d ago
The controller in that pic looks like something that would have come from the South Park episode "Major Boobage." If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about.

On topic: I think in the current economic climate will keep new systems on the drawing board a bit longer. We'll probably see a Wii 2 before the next Xbox or Playstation. Luckily, both systems still have a lot of life left in them.
KarateExplosion  +   2593d ago
What ever happend to the addons?
Didn't they say that the ps3 was built to addon components? I mean i would show a link but this was like 2 and a half years ago. Just saying they wouldn't need a ps4 for a while... All thats really missing is ram.
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yojoe26  +   2593d ago
You know what?
I'm not really all that interested when PS4 comes out because I love my PS3 and plan on loving it for at least six or seven more years. Guys just think of all that we have yet to experience on PS3: Twisted Metal, God of War 3, Uncharted 2, Final Fantasy 13 and Final Fantasy 13 versus, White Knight Story, Killzone 2, MAG, Kingdom Hearts 3 (hopefully), Final Fantasy 7 remake (hopefully), DC online MMO, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, Exclusive games coming from Team Ico, Whatever Incognito is working on, Resident Evil 5, Streetfighter 4, Infamous, more Ratchet and Clank games, Resistance 3 (heard a third is on the plate), Star Wars Battlefront (hopefully), do I even need to continue? My brain hurts. Come on guys just don't worry about it. PS4 will come at a time we're all ready for it and that time is definitely not gonna be anytime soon.
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