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Is Crackdown 3 Struggling to Take Off Solely Because of Bad Reviews?

TSR writes: "The recently released Crackdown 3 might be yet another victim of failed marketing hype - or it might just be a bad video game."

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isarai1916d ago

"The recently released Crackdown 3 might be yet another victim of failed marketing hype - or it might just be a bad video game."

Both actually, i mean if it weren't hyped and lied about with "the power of the cloud", and the first one never existed, it could have been better received, not by much, but better. However it had both the standard set by the first one that it didn't live up to, and was overhyped with power of the cloud lies.

I myself never cared about the power of the cloud as it was just the single player i was after. It just doesn't have the polish and minutiae the first one had that really allowed and rewarded experimentation and playfulness, mainly the physics just aren't as fun to play with, which is what most of the game is built around. Not to mention they nerfed things like the agency vehicles and the way your character aesthetically evolves.

porkChop1915d ago

From what I understand the cloud stuff was kind of out of their hands, which lead to delays. They were originally using far superior cloud tech from Cloudgine, but Cloudgine was bought out by Epic. Sumo Digital had to scrap the cloud stuff and restart using something else, on top of losing their co-developer.

Zeref1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

If it were any other game it would have been cancelled right then and there. It's a miracle it even released. They probably lost a ton of money. That's probably the reason why it's $60 dollars, to get at least a bit of money back, which is not fair at all for this game. The fact that it's on Game Pass is also one of the reasons it wasn't cancelled.

That said, i don't share the sentiment that it's a bad game. This game has some hilarious script. And the gameplay is fun and varied enough to keep you playing.

ShadowWolf7121915d ago

According to everyone involved, the Cloudgine stuff didn't impact their game.

Rude-ro1915d ago

The game is still a early last gen game but with more pixels.
The cloud tech was still used at launch as adding 12x the computational power.
Microsoft never stated it was an outside cloud tech when they tried to sell the idea to try and give the appearance that it would boost the Xbox one.
The only thing you can say about the cloud tech that was supposedly what Microsoft was leaning on is... just like their software, stop using outside sources to be a gaming company or these pickles will never stop being there.

IRetrouk1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

Why lie porkchop? What a load of crap!! Cloudgine and reagent games still involved right untill the end, the support you talk of was there untill their job was done.

Here's the interview with Dave himself proving what you say Is wrong,
https://www.gamesindustry.b...
And here is Proof cloudgine and reagent were still involved in crackdown https://ibb.co/NS4HD7W

Razzer1914d ago (Edited 1914d ago )

That is like saying since MS bought Havok.....no one else in the world can use Havok. It just isn't true. Detroit, Assassin's Creed Origins, Spider-man, Horizon Zero Dawn, and other games still use the software since being acquired by MS. This idea that Sumo had to start over on cloud is just absurd. As IRetrouk points out, Dave Jones already debunked that theory and the crackdown home page has the cloudgine logo on its page. As Jones said it was used to build the tech that is in Crackdown 3.

https://www.crackdown.com/#

trooper_1914d ago

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

RacerX1914d ago

A review from a huge Crackdown fanboy:
Fun for a few hours. Gor bored before final boss, but pushed through and beat the game anyways. 5/10

Hoped multi-player would redeem the game, but the destruction hugely disappointing. This would have been great multi-player maybe 10 years ago. I played a handful of matches but couldn't stand it. 3/10

Crackdown 3 was THE REASON I bought an Xbox at the beginning of this Gen. Couldn't have been more disappointed.

Just my 0.02

bouzebbal1914d ago

Shit game will always be shit game..

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EmperorDalek1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

The abilities you gain from leveling up make it a better game by default in my opinion, because there isn't much else to separate the two. The triple jumps and double dashes make it play like a fairly good 3D platformer, whereas the first two feel quite clunky in comparison. The upgrades in Crackdown 3 actually make it hard to go back to the first.

They didn't lie about the cloud tech. It was real when they showed it, and they were forced to change their technology last year. They showed footage of the current state of the online before release, so they weren't trying to hide it or anything.

The reviews are ridiculous due to the fact it scored lower than State of Decay 2 and The Order. It's better than both by a fair margin.

IRetrouk1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

What are you going on about?? They didn't change their tech at all, the games terrible, can't even bring myself to finish it it's that bad.
https://ibb.co/NS4HD7W you have literally made up everything in your post🤣🤣🤣 ;
https://www.gamesindustry.b...

IRetrouk1915d ago (Edited 1914d ago )

Oh and they only showed the "new" downgraded multiplayer in November last year, 3 months from launch, completely avoided talking about the downgrade and then when they were questioned they gave some vague bs answers, the game is a joke. So yeah, they lied alright 🤣

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NarutoFox1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

I got it free on Game Pass and I still moved on. That's reality

gam3r_4_lif31914d ago

Are you in every thread for games you dislike or have never played or intend to play telling people there who actually tried the game your pointless opinion. Man there are so many games that are not available on Sony platforms it must be a full time job

hulk_bash19871915d ago

I cant speak for everyone. But it was an extremely shallow game. I didnt feel any motivation to finish it, non existent story, bland characters, boring world. One of the very few points I can give the game is Terry Crews' in-game dialogue. Other than that, it never really caught my attention. I wanted to like it, but I couldnt find a compelling enough reason.

gam3r_4_lif31914d ago

@isarai not sure if you did not play the first or the the 3rd as I have pkayed both recently and the third is better in every way. The control of the agents is one of the main improvements and was even highlighted in many of tge reviews

Dragonscale1914d ago

Those many reviews also said the game is crap lol.

isarai1914d ago (Edited 1914d ago )

I put easily more than 200hrs into the first one, maxed out all the different characters (because they actually look more and more badass as they level up whereas only their size changes in C3)and yeah while the addition of dodges and double/triple jumps made for a better platforming experience, it's also harder to grab ledges in C3. Not sure if you remember the C1/C2 but the majority of your climbing was done grabbing into windowsills, but I've noticed in C3 it's hard to make them grab the shallow windowsills, you have to approach them with a low vertical velocity, but if you're trying to grab one from a freefall they just wont do it. So improved in some ways, worse in others.

And yeah i played them recently, i bought crackdown for my nephew recently, and snatched the first one as it's currently free and i play it at work during break(i work at a game store) so yeah, played C3 at release for a few days, went back to playing the first, and having a better time with the first.

gravedigger1914d ago

Game was hyped left and right, because "power of the cloud".

Game is now at score 60 overall on Meta. Only there is a wait for EDGE review. If EDGE score it with 5, it will drop to 59.

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THC CELL1916d ago

I'm gunna say no the game is crap

starchild1915d ago

So that's the new thing eh? Games that receive middling or mixed reviews are "crap"? I guess now games that score in the 7 range are below average or mediocre, games that score in the 8 range are average, and games that score 9s are barely good? Wait, what?!

But it's all subjective anyway. You shouldn't be stating any opinion about a game as if it were a fact.

Jin_Sakai1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

“So that's the new thing eh? Games that receive middling or mixed reviews are "crap"?“

No, Crackdown 3 is crap because the cloud hype ended up a joke and it looks like a last gen game. It’s also a received bad reviews across the board.

XabiDaChosenOne1915d ago

Dude the game has a 59 on metacritic far from a 70. Give it a rest.

rainslacker1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

No, it's long been thought that gamees that score in the 6 range generally are crap. I think its a bit of an exaggeration, but it's about as good as you get if your game isn't completely broken. If it's fun, and not overly buggy(and sometimes when it is buggy), then you can manage at least a 7 average meta.

You've been around long enough to know how the scoring system works. Game is lackluster, and it was hyped up for years, and it's key selling point besides Terry Crews really came up short of expectations.

There is really no way around that, and reviewers were right to review the game based on how it was marketed. If the game didn't do anything special, then there was no reason to give it extra points, when many other good games get points deducted because they don't break the mold. Like when Spiderman lost points in some reviews because it didn't break the traditional open world mold. CD3 does nothing new outside the cloud compute, and while it does work, it doesn't work to the extent it was shown.

For someone who claims to be primarily a PC gamer, you seem to have an healthy attachment to supporting MS with all their failures.

thejigisup1915d ago

When someone sells you on a Range Rover but get a Ford Windstar instead you can call it crap.

IRetrouk1915d ago

The game is crap though, regardless of what it scores it's still a crap game, what I don't understand is why it's triggered you though, or even made you mention scores, it's a 6 at best by the way not a 7 lol, tryna put words in people mouths just to defend a crap game??😂

UltraNova1914d ago

In all honesty MS and Crackdown got off easily and fairly unscathed.. should I remind you what happened when NMS was released?

gam3r_4_lif31914d ago

Yeah a game most of these fanbabies have never tried

Dragonscale1914d ago (Edited 1914d ago )

Pretty much every review of cd3 said the same thing, its more than just subjective fgs. Game is mediocre end of.

@gamer, played the first 2 crackdowns, this one is no different tbh. And anyhow people don't need to play this to see how bad it is, if it looks like a turd and smells like a turd etc lol.

trooper_1914d ago

The game is an abomination.

Reviews have proven that.

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Jin_Sakai1916d ago

“Is Crackdown 3 Struggling to Take Off Solely Because of Bad Reviews?”

It’s struggling to take off because it’s a bad game.

Destiny10801916d ago

the game got a 2/10 and the campaign has been described as a 20 hour long headache

the multiplayer has horrendous frame pacing issues, no progression, no parties

DreadGara1915d ago

That's the power of the Cloud, all those years and those delusions from Xbox fans came to nothing.
CD3 is really disappointing at this point, the defense team of the bots no longer fun at this rate, they just realized this whole generation been wasted on some jaggy Terry's Crew simulator.

ApocalypseShadow1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

The game suffers from clear weather. Because I don't see any clouds.

The developers must not believe in climate change.

gamer78041915d ago

there are clouds, but they look kinda copy and pasted in, games def has its issues, but I still find it fun.

DVAcme1915d ago

Poor guy didn't get the joke.

gamer78041915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

@DVAcme lol what joke? I honestly don't see it. (other than saying no clouds, must not believe in climate change) I really don't know anyone who doesn't think climate changes.

The_Sage1915d ago (Edited 1915d ago )

Dude... No clouds. The Cloud?... Get it?

gamer78041915d ago

Clouds was the joke.... Yikes, plural even...

trooper_1914d ago (Edited 1914d ago )

That flew way over your head, didn't it?

gamer78041914d ago

No, it was just a really bad joke lol...

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Tencent to buy Crackdown and Sackboy developer Sumo in $1.3bn deal

Tencent is set to buy Sumo Group in a deal worth $1.27bn (£919m), the companies have announced.

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Darkborn1043d ago

Tencent is really buying up everything. I'm surprised everyone is selling to them like this.

Rebel_Scum1043d ago

They want/need capital I guess.

darthv721043d ago

No way they are worth that much. They are a support studio. I guess tencent decided to throw them an insane price that Sumo would be crazy to turn down.

Its like the godfather. "Im going to make you an offer you cant refuse"

UltraNova1043d ago

Always the case.

Who owns the rights to Crackdown and Sackboy IPs though?

boing11043d ago

I've heard some time ago, that they created a special unit that has a mission to search for acquirable devs all around the globe.

-Foxtrot1043d ago

Going off their business practices they seem like a cancer in this industry

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blacktiger1043d ago

chinese currency, no limit in printing, but they are selling in USD

PrinceAli1043d ago

Maybe because they're a publisher of games with a history of success loool..?

barom1043d ago

Even Microsoft can’t compete with that kind of money.

Zeref1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

Uhm yes they can.. What do you mean?

Zeref1043d ago

Money talks, Besides, those developers don't need to worry about income anymore.

enkiduxiv1043d ago

I doubt anyone that matters to the actual production of the games is getting a raise. The only thing that has changed is that now they can't buy any Winnie the Poo products for their kids.

senorfartcushion1043d ago

Well they’re allowed. America and China are leading the world in toxic capitalism.

n1kki61043d ago

As publicly traded companies it's either they sell and potentially get more, or tencent initiates a hostile takeover and buys at least 51% of the shares. These companies might not even be amicable to the buy out but opt to take it because hostile takeovers are terrible.

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frostypants1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

Yep. A company that built itself by ripping off IP of small, innovative developers and out-marketing them. Tencent is everything wrong not just with gaming but corporate ethics in general, and the assymetric regulatory playing field we for some reason permit from the Chinese government. Egregiously corrupt companies like Tencent should be banned from the US market.

senorfartcushion1043d ago

The US market would take Tencent to dinner and have it naked on the bed by midnight if it could. America and China are as bad as each other

Lightning771043d ago

They can take Sumo those devs really aren't that great. Sack boys big adventure scored good however but Crackdown 3 wasn't great. They're 50/50 Sony will find a suitable replacement for Sack boy. MS desperately needs a suitable replacement for crackdown, if it's not already too late in terms of fanfare at this point.

Sumo to me isn't that big of a deal there are better devs out there.

senorfartcushion1043d ago

Crackdown 3 was cancelled and remade a few times. Hardly their fault.

darthv721043d ago

This is the same Sumo who made Outrun 2, 2006 Coast to Coast, Sonic Racing Transformed as well as Forza Horizon 2 on the 360. I think they are better than you give them credit for.

Wulfer1043d ago

You might want to walk this statement back. Why else do you think this game goes for over $200 now?

https://www.ebay.com/p/5144...

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ScootaKuH1043d ago

I'm surprised Sumo are valued so high

solideagle1043d ago

yeah, thats what I thought. $1.3 billion is very high, Insomniac sounds like a bargain deal for Sony!

chadwarden1043d ago

And they likely bought Housmarque and Bluepoint for even less than Insomniac.

phoenixwing1043d ago

at the two above me,
it's easy to sell for less when you know you're in good hands business and culture wise. I mean sure you could scratch out some extra money elsewhere but are all the people you know going to be taken care of when you get bought out? Sony takes care of them. Basically you can tell who's a scheming money scumbag by what ceo's/execs choose to be bought by. In the end money talks but there's extras to consider sometimes.

roadkillers1043d ago

I am as well. They do not own any IPs from my understanding...

DOMination-1043d ago

Me too! After looking them up, it seems like they were the parent of other game studios: Lab42, Red Kite, Sumo India, The Chinese Room and PixelAnt Games and also have some cryptocurrency technology.

They may also still hold the IP for back when they were Gremlin Interactive.. back in the Amiga days they were really a dev of some repute.

ScootaKuH1043d ago

Gremlin. Now there's a name that takes me back. Ocean as well.

Teflon021043d ago

They're not, it's likely them just throwing money around to make sure they have no opposition. Sumo is a valuable developer as they've assisted in alot of great games. They did LBP3, Sackboy, Sonic Transformed, I believe Assisted in both ModNation Racers and LBPK, Team Sonic racing, just to name the few off the top of my head that I own.

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IRetrouk1043d ago

I honestly thought ms or Sony would have nabbed them, seeing as they have worked for both on their respective ips, colour me surprised.

Bennibop1043d ago

It's a lot of money for a group with no ips, what would they have worked on to keep so many studios and staff employed. For now at least they continue working on ips for the likes of Sony and Microsoft.

IRetrouk1043d ago

Sony and ms have more than enough ips to keep em busy, the price would have been an issue though, that I agree with, just surprised is all🤷‍♂️

frostypants1043d ago (Edited 1043d ago )

Tencent doesn't exactly pride themselves on original IP anyway. They just steal someone else's. They only need developer drones.

Sephiroushin1043d ago

They have enough to make them busy but there is no point in buying the studio that high, they could just make the developers some offers and thats it... heck every single developer could just quit the studio and with what is tensen left? no point in buying a studio with no IP you dont own the developers

IRetrouk1043d ago

I already agreed that the price was high, still don't take away that they could have been used, and be useful to either ms or sony

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Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Preview/Hands on Impressions (BETA) - CG

Microsoft recently released their Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Beta which allows users the opportunity to stream Xbox games to their Windows 10 PCs or laptops. This follows on from being able to use the cloud gaming on mobile devices which works very well but is limited to the size of your screen. Having the option to play Xbox games with a larger display has its obvious benefits.

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Crackdown 3 8K 60 FPS - Possible at Low-Medium Settings with an RTX 3090

CG writes: Nvidia’s claims that the RTX 3090 can render games in 8K at 60 FPS, ring true for us in this video. We put the game Crackdown 3 through its paces with some interesting results.

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bunt-custardly1320d ago

If you've ever super-sampled anything you would know why it can make things look better.

bouzebbal1320d ago

Let's talk about powahhhh of da clawwdd for a second 🤣did they give up with this thing?

bunt-custardly1320d ago

Oh right, I didn't get the joke sorry, it just clicked. Hmm, is Crackdown 3 really that bad/universally hated especially as it's on gamepass?

SullysCigar1320d ago

My attempt at humour could have been clearer, in hindsight..!

Yeah, sadly Crackdown 3 had been hyped so hard and so long by Microsoft, that when it launched as a mediocre game, it got panned. It was mainly the broken promises about the power of the cloud I think that did it. This was the 'cloud power' poster child for years and it all amounted to nothing, which is a real shame, because if they'd realised their initial vision it could have been special.

bunt-custardly1320d ago

I do remember the original vision where entire buildings could be demolished but wasn't that feature relegated to the multiplayer mode? For me, Crackdown 3 comes across quite generic. I suppose if it had the full destruction in the story mode that would have been bad-ass. If Red Faction Guerrilla can do it why not CD?

FanboySpotter1320d ago

Crackdown 3 was made for crackdown fans. Hated by non crackdown fans. Enjoyed by crackdown fans.

MadLad1320d ago

I played it on PC for a little while via gamepass. It's not nearly as terrible as people would try to make it out to be, but it's the definition of a "meh" game.
There's fun to be had if you're bored.

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andy851320d ago

It's good it's possible but who would pick this over 4K60 on ultra? It would look far better

IanTH1320d ago

100%. This is obviously just showing what can be done with the current highest end hardware, rather than what should be. And if you're splashing out for an RTX 3090 over a 3080 for gaming (small performance delta if not using that huge buffer for productivity), then I guess you'll also consider splashing out for an 8k screen. And, I mean, you'll want to be able to do *something* with it lol.

outsider16241320d ago

Let's be honest here, even with extra high settings at 8k 120fps... it'll still look like crap. Sorry.

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