Patent indicates Sony's new handheld coming

The PlayStation Vita may not have been the success that Sony had hoped for, but PlayStation CEO John Kodera revealed earlier this year that the company has not completely abandoned handhelds. In an interview with Bloomberg, Kodera said that a link between a home console and a handheld is needed if Sony wants to succeed. The success of the Nintendo Switch will also not have escaped Sony and a new patent seems to suggest that something new is being worked on.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Very interesting application maybe like an extender for PS5 maybe?

[DevilHunterDante]

Hmmmm interesting

[Eonjay]

It could just be an answer to the issue of inflating game space sizes. Carts are faster, hold more data and still maintain ownership rights other want us to relinquish.

[fr0sty]

Carts are exponentially more expensive than discs, and unnecessary considering many people don't even bother with physical copies (myself included) anymore. For a portable console, it would work, but otherwise it's more cost than benefit.

[Purrfection]

Sounds like the Switch 2 for your home. The PS5 will connect with a portable device (or your Dualshock 5 controller) or a separate peripheral device to play your PS5 in portable mode.

[iofhua]

fr0sty -

Carts also have exponentially faster load times than discs, and are completely worth the price.

My worst experiences in gaming were on the Ps3. A lot of the times they were listening to the disc thrashing around while waiting forever for my game to load.

Solid state memory is the future of gaming, not cheap shitty optical discs.

[ILostMyMind]

@Purrfection
Like Vita does?

[OpenGL]

Cartridges do not have exponentially faster load times than discs, the Switch cartridges routinely get outperformed by even regular class 10 microSD cards in terms of load times. Most Switch games still have noticeable load screens and the Vita's load times were often very poor. The cost of a cartridge is also substantially higher per GB and given we've now already experienced two disc PS4/Xbox One games while most Switch cartridge games don't even use 16GB, it seems highly unlikely a PS5 would ever use a cartridge. My guess is they'll go to the new 128GB Blu-ray discs for PS5, there's just no way a cartridge of that size could be cost effective.

[starchild]

I hope Sony does something ingenuitive with a new portable. If they can somehow allow the portable to play PS3 or PS4 games that would be the fulfillment of what I've been talking about for a number of years. Maybe a new solid state format would allow for the size and speed for those kinds of games.

[Nitrowolf2]

@iofhua

That was a full gen ago lol, nothing runs off the disc now

Cartridges aren’t gonna catch on as long as they remain expensive and not as widely used in the real world versus other forms of media (ie downloading directly to ur hard drive)

Switch games aren’t even much faster with loading on 3rd party games, and in the cases they are, those games have been toned down in many areas so it’s not even a comparison

[tehpees3]

@fr0sty
Cartridges are a lot less expensive than they were during the N64 era. Most 16GB Switch cartridges cost the same as an average 360/PS3 game when they launched. Cartridges are also a lot more flexible because they don't have a certain amount of space you have to fit the game to (DVD 360 discs).

@Nitrowolf
The only games that load slower are games running on modern engines like ID Tech 6 and Unreal Engine 4. FighterZ most notably kills it for loading times but you can't deny L.A. Noire has seen a significant improvement because of the cartridge. When loading PS360 remasters it does the job better mostly.

[Shikoku]

@OpenGL

Yes they do. You cant use the Switch or Vita for any comparison both use property tech for those systems not to mention the Switch "cart" isnt a cart at all its just a property SDcard.

[sander9702]

I think it's for a handheld console, we will probably just get regular discs for PS5.

[Vizigoth04]

Most importantly though for PS4 backward compatibility. If Sony decides to do cartridge based games maybe they'll be usable for both PS5 and a portable option versus docking and undocking like the switch. Sony can still put in a Blu-ray drive for PS5/PS4 games plus 4K movies. Keeping a variety in mediums.

[anonymousfan]

I swear I will never buy a PS5 unless it had backwards compatibility and a blu ray player. My backlog on PS4 is sooo bad I really want to carry those games over in the next generation.

[sampsonon]

@anonymousfan: "I swear I will never buy a PS5 unless it had backwards compatibility and a blu ray player. My backlog on PS4 is sooo bad I really want to carry those games over in the next generation."

and be stuck with xbox exclusives? lol ok.
you will be missing out on the best games of a generation.

plus, what happened to your ps4? and if you don't have one you're saying $199 is to much to buy another one?

you can buy a cheap Blu-ray that's better than anything in a console,

[mcstorm]

@sampsonon I get what your saying but I also get what he is also saying.

I mean if microsoft make all consoles backwards compatable from now on why would you not make the jump. OK you will miss out on some amazing exclusives but the Xbox also has some and this gamer may also play more 3rd party games so it dose not matter to them.

Think a little bit more open and not just exclusives as not everyone is like that and I'm one of them. My gaming styles are racers and platform and this gen the racer console is the Xbox and platformer consoles have been wiiu and switch.

As for a Sony handheld it will be intresting to see if they enter the market again as the vita was an amazing console but never got the backing from Sony or the 3rd party's. For me I will wait and see what happens with the next one as I jumped on the vita day one and got stung by the lack of support for the gore's I enjoy.

[OpenGL]

Yeah, the newest 128GB BD-XL seems like the most likely candidate for next-gen Playstation and Xbox.

[Twinblade]

I hope it's the vita 2.

[DarXyde]

anonymousfan,

So what you're saying is that your PS4 suddenly becomes unplayable for the backlog you've amassed once PS5 is released? Or maybe you're saying that you're so impatient that you will not complete your backlog on PS4 before getting a PS5 when it would benefit you more to wait until more software and potentially better prices are available?

[MoshA]

You like fairy tail and your comments are always ridiculous

[DivineBliss]

@MoshA you said injustice 2 was the greatest fighting game ever made

[Retroman]

"Sony new handheld"

PsP switch 2
LoL

[Neonridr]

"Rather than separating portable gaming from consoles, it's necessary to continue thinking of [portable gaming] as one method to deliver more gaming experiences."

wow.. so basically how Nintendo has approached the Switch.

[Nyxus]

You could hook up the PSP to your tv, so it's not like it was a new idea to begin with.

[Neonridr]

This isn't talking about hooking up to your TV though. Just the idea that gaming doesn't need to be segregated. I don't discount the ability of the PSP to connect to your TV.

[Nyxus]

@ Neonridr: well it's the same principle as the Switch. A system that can be used as a handheld but also be hooked up to a tv as a console. Of course, Nintendo perfected this concept with the Switch, but it wasn't exactly a new idea (not that it matters).

[slate91]

Hooking up the PSP to your TV is the equivalent of hooking up your gameboy to the tv lol. The switch is in another league. Nintendo did their own thing and idea.

[computeSci]

Sega was way way ahead of its time :)

[michellelynn0976]

The PSP couldn't give you console quality games on the go. That's a joke. The Switch is the first to do it and as usual, it looks like Sony might rip Nintendo off.

[Nyxus]

@ slate: the only difference is the ease of use. The principle is the same.

[Dizzy11523]

lol no.

[Nyxus]

@ michellelynn0976: for its time, it was console quality on the game. Same with the Vita. I mean, the Switch can't keep up with dedicated consoles either, so what's the difference?

[Neonridr]

again, this patent has nothing to do with hooking up to the TV. That was my point. They simply made a statement saying that we need to stop distinguishing gaming based on where it takes place. Handheld or hooked up to your TV, it's still gaming. Nintendo understands that, hence why the Switch is the way it is.

[bluefox755]

@Michelle They were console quality for the time though, yeah, it wasn't as powerful as the modern day consoles back then, but neither is Switch. Most current gen AAA games can't run on the Switch.

[darthv72]

NEC (TG16 / TurboExpress) and Sega (Genesis / Nomad) offered cross device compatibility where using the same game on the console and the handheld worked but you had to buy two devices to achieve that. The PSP offered direct connect to the TV but it was not an ideal way to play because you had to use the unit as the controller so it was cumbersome (to some extent).

The PSP Go would be the first unit to employ dock and play with away and play. It's actually quite funny how so many did NOT know it was capable of using a real controller for docked play (like the switch) or that it could even be docked to a tv at all (like the switch). I have my Go hooked up through the dock with component cables and I use the original SIXAXIS controller (since the DS3 would be pointless as the PSP games do not support rumble).

Where do people think Nintendo got the idea of making a hybrid system from??? Sony did it first while nintendo just improved upon the idea by making it work with both physical as well as digital media. That was the big downfall of the Go. no physical support and no option to trade in your physical games for digital equivalents but it certainly had enough space to support them. 16gb internal storage with support for an additional 16gb via the M2 slot.

[jelloaceomega]

I'm pretty sure I played Crisis Core on the PSP, and that game runs like a ps2 game. at-least I get to play Dark Souls now on my Switch and that game was like from 10 years ago, and still looks good today. You know I wish the Switch was powerful enough to run Red Redemption 2 because the graphics on that game is really gorgeous, and I really want to play with me all the time. Maybe when they announce the Switch Pro, or Switch 2 in the future It will be powerful enough to play Red Dead Redemption 2.

[Spartacus10]

@ Neonridr
"Just the idea that gaming doesn't need to be segregated"
You would still be wrong to insist that the switch did it first.
https://www.youtube.com/wat... (not saying the vita did it first)

The problem with the entire concept, regardless of who does it, is that most devs and players arent going to be happy limiting the experience you can have on the big console for the sake of adding an option of portability which most people wont use.

I live in London and I havent seen a single person walking around with the Nintendo Switch, or the vita. But I have seen hundreds of people playing shitty mobile phone games that they're winning at even though they're half asleep and only using a thumb to play. The market for people willing to pay for a separate device to game on the go, even if the games are significantly better, is very small.

[Sirk7x]

You could, yes, but Nintendo made it very easy and put that feature into its identity. The dock is fast and easy. Slide it in, it's charging and immediately outputting HDMI. Click on the joycons, you're good to go after. Presentation is very important.

[Segata]

SEGA did this in 1995 with SEGA Nomad. Not to mention half steps like Super Game Boy and Turbo Express.

[badz149]

LOL at Nintendo fans claiming Nintendo invented everything gaming!

get out of here with your "The PSP couldn't give you console quality games on the go" BS! that's only true if you only consider 720p as "console quality". There were so many console quality games on the PSP. from what I've played alone

GoW CoO & GoS, R&C Size Matters, GTA LC Stories & VC Stories, Motorstorm Arctic Edge, Dexter, Dead Head Fred, Death Jr 1 & 2, GT Portable, MH Freedom series, Metal Gear PW, CC FF7, Ape Escape, even Tomb Raider Legends and so many more... and to hell with you if you don't consider these games as "console quality" on the go!

and the Vita has had Uncharted GA, Unit 13, KZM, Gravity Rush, Sly4 etc for another round of "console quality" on the go games ALL BEFORE the Switch.

The Vita was just released at a bad time considering Sony wanting to amend their mistake on the PS3 and capitalize fully on the PS4 hypetrain. they just don't have the capacity to support both platforms equally by the look of it and they ultimately chose the PS4 over the Vita. we can argue if that was the right decision but financially, it makes them thriving again as the PS division drives the profit for the company in recent years thanks to the major success of the PS4.

still a big slap in the face for the Vita supporters, though like myself. I loved my PSP (bought 3 of them) and its games. with the Vita, I expected more of the same but better considering the jump in power and capabilities. but the Vita never received the support it deserves and sad to see Sony finally decided to stop production which means fewer and fewer support from now on. remote play is nice and all but...the Vita could have achieved more.

[DarXyde]

michellelynn0976,

"The PSP couldn't give you console quality games on the go. That's a joke. The Switch is the first to do it and as usual, it looks like Sony might rip Nintendo off."

Last I checked, PSP was damn close to PS2 level visuals, minus polygon count. Last I checked, PSOne games could be played on PSP. Let's not forget remote play, the PS Vita, and VITA TV.

Perhaps you just don't want to give Sony the credit, but some of Nintendo's recent "ideas" seem to be them applying patents and ideas Sony came up with beforehand and abandoned. Granted, Nintendo saw a great idea and capitalized on them and made them their own, but if copying is letting Nintendo assume the risk of testing the idea before they do it, sure.

And I'm not really criticizing Nintendo. I actually like them and appreciate the individuality they bring to the industry.

It's comments like yours that I find shortsighted.

[EddieNX]

Here's all the Sony fans claiming Sony did it first with the psp. Nomad, N64 gamepak, Gameboy player all allowed handheld games to.be played on the tv.

It would be the biggest rip off in gaming history if Sony comes out with a Switch.
I doubt they will though. They just might have cartridges instead of discs for PS5 as in many ways, they're superior.

[Nyxus]

Just for the record, I'm not claiming Sony was the first to do this, they weren't. But neither was Nintendo.

[darthv72]

TG16 with the Turboexpress my friend. Using the same hucards on the console as you could on the handheld... that was cool. I used to play Military Madness all the time like that.

[Harkins1721]

Id be down for a PS5 switch. why would I not want to being my PSP/Vita games with me on the go and play them at home on the TV as well? This tech isnt new.

[trooper_]

When did anyone claim this?

[crazyCoconuts]

I'd hapilly buy that ripoff, but I don't see them doing it. They could have iterated on Vita but killed it and the reasons are still out there. A cheap streaming device or something could line up with their strategy, but you don't need cartridges for that...

[badz149]

@EddieNX

"They just might have cartridges instead of discs for PS5 as in many ways, they're superior."

Sony will just dump the format they have sacrificed so much for (PS3) to go for cartridges? LOL how does that make any sense? if you're forgetting, unlike Nintendo, Sony is also in the movie business. ditching Bluray for cartridges is like they are slapping themselves on the face. I still fully expect the PS5 to have UHD BD drive and support 200GB BD.

cartridges are fast and all but they cost too much especially for bigger storage ones. we've already seen the limitation of this media on the Switch with devs taking the shortcut by requiring downloads. I doubt Sony would follow suit especially with game sizes getting bigger and bigger. I just can't see cartridges holding 4K media just yet in the near future. plus, with the next gen fully expected to retain the x86 architecture, BC is a huge request by current owners. ditching the BD drive will rule out BC for physical PS4 games and I don't think they would want to enrage the consumers like that.

[BVFTW]

I'm pretty sure that Sony did the dock thingy first with the PSPGO, but Nintendo wasn't inspired by Sony for a Hybrid console-handheld, that is something they've pursued from a very long time, I remember an interview with Gunpei Yokoi in the 90s where he stated that, ultimately, he envisioned that console and handheld gaming would become one when portable technology has matured enough (He also was the mind behind Nintendo's "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology" philosophy). It's a little sad that he couldn't see this future as he passed away a long time ago, but his legacy lives on.

[DarXyde]

I beg to differ. If Switch cartridges are any indication, storage space is tiny compared to Blu-ray. On top of that, for audio purposes, what kind of audio codecs would cartridge support? Cartridge would likely result in a lot of compression, which is a huge no-no in the age of 4K.

[Harkins1721]

Do you have a problem with Sony taking a concept people like and integrating it into their system? Nintendo finally brought in a paid online. Should they be attacked for what people wanted?

[SublimeStylee2]

Depends how much/if any power Is comprimised to achieve this. If it's an extension or inclusion? Too much speculation at this point.

[conanlifts]

but with ps4 games, not ps5 games. So the life of PS4 would be extended as games would support the new portable and the home console.

[THC CELL]

Maybe for ps vr portable??

[Tapani]

You are onto something.

[UltraNova]

Exactly!

[crazyCoconuts]

While I'd love for that to be the case, it just can't be done unless PSVR gets a significant downgrade in graphics (not likely). The self contained units are very low horsepower and not good for gaming. It'll take quite a few years before you can comfortably build even a PS4 into a headset.

[Segata]

Switch is as powerful as we can get for a handheld that won't cost $700+ for the time being. In 2022 Volta might be modified enough to be cheap enough and energy efficient enough to run on a battery for 2-5 hours and give a base PS4 levels of power for $300.

[Akarogg]

A VR-capable PC needs a ton of powerful, expensive hardware to run it well with great graphics, I can't imagine how they are going to fit all of that inside of a PS Vita or Switch sized device for under $600-700+.

[Dragonscale]

Exactly, seems facts and logic escape some people.

[Dragonscale]

No, a portable wouldn't have enough power. Not the safest idea either.

[Lilrizky]

I didn't even consider that. I didn't really care for the other ideas but this.... sounds interesting.

[Akarogg]

No

[Kratos_Kart2007]

VR games are scary enough...Imagine a portable VR...YIKES!!! lol

[Sgt_Slaughter]

This will have a safe and responsible comment section from both Nintendo and Sony fans.

[TekoIie]

To be honest this is more than likely going to amount to nothing. Just more research and testing for a potential product that may turn out to be not worth the effort after further R&D. We see it happen so often that its the most likely outcome.

[MoshA]

Dead Cells was disappointing. It's not a rouge like, I found myself using the same weapons in every playthrough, there's barely any. It's a metroidvania but you start from the beginning when you die lmao. No story. Final boss was a joke. Game has nothing on Isaac, Hollow Knight, Enter the Gungeon etc.

[TekoIie]

@MoshA

wut?

[crazyCoconuts]

I'm with you on this. Could be wrong of course but cartridges don't seem to fit with where Sony has been going...

[King_Noctis]

@MoSha

You have finally gone mental.

[Dragonscale]

@mosh, how did you manage that when it gives you random weapons at the start of each run, and most of them are great anyhow. Dead Cells is awesome btw.

[-Foxtrot]

So an evolved PSP/PSV then

[Gazondaily]

You mean Nintendo Switch?

[Profchaos]

I'd be all for that since I already have a massive games library on psn

[badz149]

@Septic

are you claiming that the Switch is an evolve PSP/PSV?

[ILostMyMind]

I am hoping for this.

[spicelicka]

That would explain Sony dropping out of E3. They will likely have their own conference to announce this and possibly PS5.

[raWfodog]

I like the name PSFlex

[Cajun Chicken]

Prediction; the new PlayStation will follow after the features of the Switch and be named PSV, in relation to PSVita and PS5 and using remote play in a big way. Imagine a VR game being able to be portable because the system it's plugged into is.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

That would be a very expensive system to run VR portably. At least $600-700 minimum.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

I don't think by much, and the prices that I mentioned are just for the portable device alone. A VR-capable PC needs a ton of powerful, expensive hardware to run it well with great graphics, I can't imagine how they are going to fit all of that inside of a PS Vita or Switch sized device for under $600-700+.

[Nyxus]

To be honest I'd prefer a traditional console, like the PS4, so they don't have to compromise anything for portability.

[badz149]

AMEN TO THAT

[DEEBO]

I'm in for 600 or 700 dollars.
I paid more for the PS4, PS4 pro and PSVR by themselves.

[Sirk7x]

At that point, why not just get build a good PC and get a Vive?

[ILostMyMind]

Because "a good PC" does not play PS5 games.

[badz149]

the Vive alone already cost $500 now, right? and unlike the PSVR, Vive won't run very well on $400 PC. so...I can't see how they are even comparable.

[Skankinruby]

Interesting, thought for sure after the vita they'd just drop portable altogether. Please just make this an option I don't want anything like the switch for ps5

[michellelynn0976]

Copying Nintendo? Who knows.

[Nyxus]

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

[EddieNX]

Oh that makes it less shameless!!! Aaid no one.

Why don't you just concede instead of pulling up dinosaur tech. I suppose PSVR copied the Virtual boy then?

[michellelynn0976]

Not even close. It was like taking a Game Boy with you. Keep trying.

[Nyxus]

@ michellelynn0976: nah I won't keep trying, don't feel like it. Believe what you want.

[michellelynn0976]

The Switch is the first console to give you console quality games on the go.

[rainslacker]

Console quality games where the console itself is far behind in power to even then lowest standard set so far this gen....much less the next gen that many Nintendo fans like to say the switch resides in.

There were several full on portable consoles in the past. Namely the turbo express and the nomads, which played their home console counterparts games.

[UCForce]

Sega did it before Nintendo did. Don’t be so surprise.

[michellelynn0976]

No they didn't. Lol the screen was so small. It was like having a watered down Genesis.

[michellelynn0976]

Ok. What have they? Name the products. Hey, who did motion controls first, Nintendo or Sony? Portable? VR?

[gangsta_red]

@UCForce

So copying Sega?

[Gazondaily]

Lol...copying Sega...anything to not admit the blatantly obvious that this, if true, is an attempt to copy the Nintendo Switch.

[UCForce]

@michellynnn0976 @gangsta_red @Septic My friend Nyxus just posted the link for you guys but you guys don’t believe it. Again, it’s depend on who do better than others. Switch did better than Sega did and PSVR did better than Nintendo did. I’m going to say it again. So don’t try to be hypocrites, arrogant and troll for once.

[UCForce]

Do you really think Nintendo isn’t copying anything from others ? They do just like others as well. You can say Nintendo Switch did better than Sega, but what about Virtual Boy ? Was it successful for Nintendo ? No, it didn’t. PSVR did it better than Nintendo did. Everyone have strength and weakness.

[Segata]

Wii was a direct ripoff of an unknown 2004 console named Xavix Port. Also Virtual Boy despite the name was not VR. It was a 3D Game Boy. Tho VR had existed since the 80s. I just think PSVR is the first one to be widely affordable.

[Mr_Writer85]

@michellelynn0976

Eye Toy motion control pre-dates Wii motion control

PSP remote play pre-dates Wii-U "off TV play"

PS2 playing DVDs pre-dates any DVD playing Nintendo console.

Dualshock pre-dates twin sticks on the gamecube.

[michellelynn0976]

Was it a tv like remote that you could swing and point? The N64 has single analog and rumble.

[Mr_Writer85]

@michellelynn0976

"Hey, who did motion controls first, Nintendo or Sony?"

That's not the same as

"Was it a tv like remote that you could swing and point?"

Is it? Rather than admit you're wrong (which you are) you try and move the goal posts.

But the Sixaxis had motion control in as well... So....

"The N64 has single analog and rumble"

And? I said Sony was the first to do dual analogue sticks. And then Nintendo copied.

Swings and round abouts.

[Mr_Writer85]

Also I like how you say the Vita offered many console experiences.

Want proof? Then you just need to type into Google PlayStation Vita Cross Buy.

Then wipe away those salty tears and admit that Nintnedo have copied Sony as well.

;)

I feel quite sorry for you fanboys/girls, being so angry over a box that you literally result to making things up.

Oh and Virtual Boy wasnt VR...

[raWfodog]

As if there's some rule about companies 'copying' from others. If there's no patents preventing it, everything is fair game. Companies just try to do it better than the predecessors.

[honey1984]

How long till memory cards become gaming cartridges?

[ILostMyMind]

Prepare yourself for $100 base price games.

[timlot]

Go Sony go. Sony is so innovative. Reinventing the cartridge? Wow. Sony's already got the next generation in the bag.

[UCForce]

Do I have to report you for inappropriate ?

[UCForce]

@Madmoose Wow, you are actually upset by what I saying. You are no different.

[rainslacker]

If they found a way to make carts more efficient and cheaper, and have capacities which can support the next gen, id say that's pretty innovative of them. If it's just another locked SD card like the vita, then not so much.

That said. I wouldn't read into the patent too much right now. We get plenty of these kinds of articles, and 3 out of 4 never really show up for the consumer.

[badz149]

@timlot

a bit of a history lesson, which one came out first? Vita or Switch? now, what does the Vita use, cartridges or any form of disc?

[RDF]

Vita 2?

[Harkins1721]

If its makes things better, easier and faster, im all for it.

[spambot0815]

maybe someting plug and play that can be used to save downloaded games on so they can ditch a blueray drive completely and make the harddrive system-only...? wouldn't be against it...

[Tonykid]

ps vita 2 confirmed

[jznrpg]

PS5 PSVR2 Vita2 combo(or whatever they want to call it) PLEASE!!! They can all be separate or integrated just give them to meeeee

[rainslacker]

Theyncoukd probably sell a lot of those bundles on launch, if they all release at the same time. Early adopters tend to be willing to spend more....particularly if the base versions are out of stock.

Id go for it myself, as I would like all those things. Think I'd prefer a psvr forward compatibility though. At least as an option.

[Cobra951]

"According to Techtastic, the patent filed in South Korea hints at an 'electronic game cartridge.' No further details are given . . ."
"It's possible, then, that the patent could be related to a future PlayStation console. Or it might not amount to anything."
" . . . it's clear that Sony is working on something – what that something will eventually become remains to be seen."

So, they're speculating about someone else's report about a patent filed by Sony that "hints" at being what they assume it is. We're speculating about the speculation about the hinting. But at least Engadget make it clear that they really don't know anything about it.

Let me add that I don't like when stories get failed as rumors or speculation. Glimpses of new info are always welcome. I'd rather just see the headline changed to reflect the nature of such stories.

[rainslacker]

Your incessant need to insist on facts is really counter to pointless time wasting discourse.😀

[Asuka]

Oh dear God no. I don't wanna have to pay a premium like their memcards again.

[rainslacker]

Id hope if they make another poryable they take noted on the things people complained about. I don't meant the it had no games, but the overbearing drm which ended up being more of an annoyance to the honest users, and ultimately, just raised the overall price for the consumer. I know Sony worried about piracy after the ps1/2/psp, but they they'd make more money if they just don't worry about i and make it more accessible to the honest user.

[Imortus_san]

Another "PS Vita" Flop Incoming, they wont get me after what they did with the vita.

[rainslacker]

If it were anything but a handheld, if buy it day one....assuming it was a game system. But while I'd be happy to support a handheld from them again, if wait to buy in until they show they're in it for the long haul. They gave up on the vita after the ps4 really took off, and that was really disappointing.

I'm sure id get my money out of it even if it went down like the vita. But I don't like to encourage half measures from the console makers hardware.

[Imortus_san]

The vita was a hell of an investement, the console and them the memory card, too much money spent on it, and no proper support from Sony, even EA gave it more support them Sony, I have mine stored, I wont sell it but wont buy another portable from Sony.

[SuperbVillain]

Blu Ray cartridges mmmmm

[jelloaceomega]

Like a Universal Media Disc?

[badz149]

that would be awesome. LOL jk

[Switch4One]

Switch...ing it up again.

[ShadowWolf712]

Am I late for the nerd fight?

[King_Noctis]

Not really. We have Sony fan claiming Sony is inspired by Sega while Nintendo fan claim Sony is inspired by Nintendo.

[frostypants]

Filing a patent does NOT automatically equate to actively developing something. If we're going to believe otherwise, then Sony has a console that can operate on brainwaves anytime now...

https://gizmodo.com/039078/...

[one2thr]

Pretty much, this.

Might also be bread crumbs to redirect people attention at something else.

For example, people thought this was going to be the DualShock 4 controller lol

http://www.freepatentsonlin...

https://www.polygon.com/201...

https://bgr.com/2012/12/01/...

[rainslacker]

Might be a real tech they came up with while researching a potential handheld, but may have no intention to do anything with it now, or may just use parts of the patent for something completely different.

The reason for the patent is that it then becomes an asset for them. It doesn't cost much for a patent. But donnas the potential to make them money in the future, plus if someone else.comes up with the idea, they can make.money that way

[ApexWolf22]

probably a new proprietary memory card, Sony knows we love those....

[Einhander1971]

Don’t compare hooking up PSP to tv, and the switch. Not even close, like it or not Sony is looking at the switch and how big it is in Japan. They more than likely want to tap into that market some how.

[Sirk7x]

Cartridges are well suited for portable gaming. There are less moving parts, and it is more energy efficient. Longer battery life, more durable, less expensive on the hardware end. I wonder how pissed people would be if Sony went the Switch route for the PS5, hosting a less powerful platform lol.

[ILostMyMind]

I'd still buy It due to sony's games. But i really don't want a weak PlayStation.

[rainslacker]

They cost more to manufacture, and are susceptible to fluctuating memory prices which are completely out of the manufacturers control. They offer up a lot of benefits to the end user, but today publishers are trying to cut out retail so they can make more money, and carts are significantly more to produce. Plus they're limited in size so the bigger the game, the more they have to pay to get bigger carts.

[badz149]

"I wonder how pissed people would be if Sony went the Switch route for the PS5, hosting a less powerful platform lol."

so they can give Nintendo something to brag about (going for weaker specs) and MS the power advantage? all at the same time? Sony is not THAT stupid, you know.

[sampsonon]

it may be for more memory.

[Knightofelemia]

If anything it probably is for a Vita 2 handheld can't see it serving a purpose for PS5 unless Sony goes the route that the Switch is on for PS5 .

[marioJP87]

Yeeeees, please make another powerful handheld. I'll be on it!!!

[michellelynn0976]

@milkshake2 nope it didn't. The PSP experience was watered down and the games didn't feel the same. Sorry, but the Switch is the one that did it. Not the PSP, the games felt so watered down.

[Elda]

Seeing that Sony stopped first party support 3 years into the Vita's lifecycle I won't support anymore of their handheld consoles.

[rainslacker]

I will if they prove that they really intend to support it and can get the 3rd party support. If it's cheap enough then maybe I'll get it, because I certainly got my money's worth from the vita. The overall support was disappointing, but it did have a lot of games I like to play...those Japanese niche games. However, switch may continue to be a better option for me if Sony intends to stand by their new censorship policies.

We'll see I guess. I won't worry about it until the time comes. Id like to see them try again. Psp and vita were great machines.

[Elda]

I hear you. I had both as well & I came to the conclusion I'm a tv gaming console gal instead of a handheld one, guessing why I haven't bought a Switch yet along with other reasons...lol.

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[joinsideke]

Does anyone have any predictions or logic here on what we're even looking at? Is this a physical cartidge that contains the game data? Can we gauge size from this? Looks like it's roughly the size of an elongated US Quarter, correct?

I'm wondering if they are planning some sort of "One Cartridge For All" approach, where both a mobile solution and the home console use the same cartridge? It doesnt seem as if they are creating an "all-in-one" device (though they should), so this seems to be the next best thing, correct?

[Liqu1d]

No. It's for the Sony Toio, a children's toy.

[Gr8saiyaman88]

Sony Does What NintenDoes

[badz149]

while everybody else does what Nintendon't! that's why there is so many games skipping the Switch

[theredeyejedii]

I hope so, with that and vr it might make me buy a playstation

[Scatpants]

If it plays PS4 games I will buy it. If it uses proprietary memory again I won't buy it.

[WitcheRivia]

It will only play censored games.

[madireed]

This has nothing to do with a portable console. It's a cart for a programmable robotics toy Sony released last year called Toio.

[conanlifts]

I live in hope that they will make a portable capable of running ps4 games. Let me bring my digital catalogue on the road with me. Plus it would mean the portable starts with a huge back catalogue of games.

[TheGamez100]

Hmmm...if this is legit, I will play the waiting game. Loved my vita and the games it had but sony killed off the little guy.

[Lionalliance]

If true, do not make the same mistake with the memory cards like they did with the Vita, that's on of the major reasons why it failed.

[Kiwi66]

What's the point when they didn't exactly do much with the vita especially when they left it up to 3rd parties to support it

[ILostMyMind]

What is the point of arguing about Vita when the patent is about another device?

[Kiwi66]

Who's arguing as all I'm saying is that they tend to leave the support of their handheld devices up to others and it's funny how you pick out my comment despite mine not being the first one to mention the vita and besides they do talk about the vita in the article

[Profchaos]

Probably a portable ps4 I'm sure they would want the ps5 to push for the most advanced graphics they can on console. If they can get the og ps4 to be portable they are into a winner

[Donjune]

Won't be the first time Sony ripped off Nintendo lol. And before you fuckboys start, I know everyone rips each other off.

[AK91]

I hope they support this longer than they did the Vita

[ShadowWolf712]

I love how Sony patents a game cart and people wanna pretend the Vita didn't use carts and this is entirely because of Nintendo.

[GrimReaperGamer]

If you copy Nintendo, I won't purchase the product Sony. Either stick to a traditional console or come up with your own shit.

[CertifiedGamer]

Design Model E2212 that's an Xperia device and I think it will be an add-on is to bring their phones and consoles together.

[antarius]

With the industry slowly moving to digital only format, people who think they are going to switch to cartridges are clueless.

[bluefox755]

Meh, so long as it doesn't detract from their ps5 focus, I don't care one way or the other.

[porkChop]

After how poorly they handled and supported the Vita, I'll have to pass on this. If it ends up being good, and Sony actually supports it, I'll maybe pick one up after a year or two. But I just can't trust Sony enough with a handheld to buy it at launch.

[chris235]

don‘t kid yourselves. sonys handhelds are not for gamers. they need to have a dud that loses them a calculated amount of money to take the edge off their tax bills.

[nommers]

Goddammit Sony. This is going to divert Japanese developers' attention away from the console side like it did in the 7th gen. There could have been so many games put on consoles rather than hand helds then, but due to the Japanese market's love for handhelds and their busy lifestyles that's what a large portion of their focus was on. That and 2 major handhelds existing together in the first place. Would love the Japanese developers to stay AWAY from that again despite some good games that came out. I'm sure far better games would have existed if more focus were put on consoles and PCs.

[ECHOINFINITY]

I would love for the PS5 to be similar to the switch as long as they didn't have to sacrifice on the hardware when docked. Power of a Sony console with the versatility of the switch would be insane.

[gamer7804]

definitely not buying another Sony peripheral day one, ps4 is great, but been burned by their lack of support for external products to the ps4 time and time again, especially with the vita.

[Ratchet75]

This article is just wrong, this so called cartridge, is based on Sony japanese toy Line
named Toio.
Now that is what i call Fake news.

[LandoCalrissiano]

Cell phone case?

[strayanalog]

Looks like a Sony Toio piece...

[InTheZoneAC]

I get the feeling it's going to be like the Wii u but without detachable controllers. And the ability to play in the go. Fully supports all powerhouse ps5 games.

[Shikoku]

Good I love my vita and its remote play..