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Nvidia unveils GeForce RTX 2070 & 2080 GPUs at Gamescom 2018

Gamescom 2018 has been given an amazing start from Nvidia by announcing their new high-end graphics cards, the GeForce RTX 2070, RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti.

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bigmalky87d ago

How much? 800 quid?

Until prices drop back to the £400-£500 range, I won't be PC gaming.

Cobra95187d ago

800 quid for top-of-the-line stuff. You can do plenty of high frame rate PC gaming for about a third as much on the video card.

Also "six times the performance of the 10 series" my shiny white butt. Wait for competent reviews with actual benchmarks before swallowing that load.

snake-OO87d ago

The top of the line version is actually £1099

Bladesfist87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

They are talking about ray tracing performance when they mentioned the 6X figure. They haven't said anything about regular performance although we do know it has roughly 30% more CUDA cores than the 1080Ti.

Definitely wait for benchmarks and reviews.

Cobra95187d ago

snake-OO, yeah, and that's insane. These are consumer-grade cards, not pro. Those prices are exactly what happens when a company has no real competition. Ray tracing won't be a factor in gaming until well after the upcoming cards have had some time to drop to prices that better reflect their actual value. (And even then, developers won't drop good-looking support for existing Nvidia cards or AMD.) There's no way I'm buying one anytime soon. Pascal will do me just fine, for years if need be.

Criti-Choco87d ago

@cobra951 The are enthusiast cards, they arent for the common consumer, the 2080 ti is basically replacing the Titan series which has always been above 1k. and according to nvidias metrics the new 2070 is actually comparative to a current gen titan (although theres some debate on how they are comparing it).

New top of the line equipment always has a premium not to mention we are getting tech that has never been on consumer products before too. Some dude on youtube made a comparison of die size of the new gpus to the cost increases aswell, 60% size increase for about 70% pricing, it kinda adds up. If you want a cheaper card get the GTX series without raytracing probably next year.

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Razzer87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

Why not buy the current gen for around that price?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gi...

bigmalky87d ago

Because I refuse to hold up the industry, constantly buying cards that should have been lower priced in the first place.

Prices won't drop to suitable levels until people learn this.

Razzer87d ago

“Prices won't drop to suitable levels until people learn this.”

lol....yeah, it is a thing called supply and demand. Suitable levels are what the market will bear.

Cobra95187d ago (Edited 87d ago )

You're both right. You point out S&D, and bigmalky wants us to lower the 'D' side. Higher 'S' or lower 'D' (or both) would drive prices lower.

RedSalmon87d ago

You can get a perfectly decent card for the figures you want - just not the bleeding edge.

bigmalky87d ago

But why should I pay £400 plus just for a GPU that will be outdated by next year or the year afterward?

It really makes no sense.

Cobra95187d ago (Edited 87d ago )

Outdated how, bigmalky? Do you think games will go exclusively ray-traced in a year or two? No way, man. Developers would go out of business if they only supported a technology that hasn't even hit the market quite yet, and comes only from one company anytime soon. (AMD says hello--weakly, I grant you.)

Razzer87d ago

Ok.....then stick to consoles where the hardware is outdated on day one.

Ceaser985736187d ago

and it can't run Shadow of TR on 60fps at 1080p

https://www.dsogaming.com/n...

Ceaser985736187d ago (Edited 87d ago )

"Ok.....then stick to consoles where the hardware is outdated on day one."

Well if I get quality games like God of war , UC4, Zero dawn, Bloodborne .. to name few.. Then I am fine with it...

Razzer87d ago

Ok? That wasn't the point at all. bigmalky says he won't game on PC because bleeding edge hardware costs too much and he will not game on outdated hardware. My point was that I don't get where he will be playing games as consoles are not bleeding edge whatsoever. I game on PS4 and PC so I'm with you on the great games for console.

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--bienio--87d ago

Looks like I’m going to buy gtx1080ti when prices start dropping...👍🏻

Marcus Fenix87d ago

im gonna skip this gen, I don't think we're not gonna wait another two years since 7nm should be very usable next year, notice that Nvidia is launching their 2080Ti right away which indicates a short lifespan for 20XX series imo.

Neonridr87d ago

yeah usually the cards come in the summer and then the TI usually late in the year or early the next year. The fact that it's all releasing at the same time makes me wonder.

Cobra95187d ago (Edited 87d ago )

Skip it, worst case. Best case, wait until the prices make sense for the improvements that you get *in practice* (not just theory)--how much ray-tracing support games actually get, and how much of a difference it really makes as you're playing them.

Miss_Vixen87d ago

I don't care about how much faster it is in ray tracing nor AI. What I want to know is how much faster is the RTX 2080 Ti than the 1080 Ti in actual games performance excluding the ray tracing stuff.

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Bladesfist87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

Ray tracing does look amazing in the titles that support it but the list of games with support will be quite small for a while. I think a lot of gamers will be satisfied with the fake lighting tricks we currently use to get around the issues with rasterization if it means saving £300 - 400.

In a few generations though when the prices start to come down and more people get to experience it I think PC gamers will push hard for ray tracing. Hopefully the new consoles have some level of support for the technology too otherwise it's in danger of being ignored because the potential user base is too small.

If anyone here is unfamiliar with the technology. The reasoning behind it is similar to the reasoning for using physically based shading in that you try and simulate real world properties and behaviour (in this case simulating light and how light bounces) to receive a more natural look although instead of this being about making sure dry rocks aren't shiny. This is about making sure light works as expected.

Here's the star wars demo running on a single card in real time (at 20 fps): https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Here's how it looks in tomb raider: https://gfycat.com/gifs/det...
Here's how it looks in Battlefield V: https://clips.twitch.tv/Sli...

jmc888887d ago

Yeah the list they showed was a bunch of meh. Some stuff I already own, and barely play. Some stuff I may buy, but nothing really killer. BFV is the biggest one on their list, but who is going to use it if it tanks their fps? People want 120-240 FPS not 30-45 or whatever.

elazz87d ago

Probably around 15-20% faster because of the bandwidth gains of gddr6

SlashHabit87d ago

4x faster, he said it on the conference.

Miss_Vixen87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

He was referring how much faster the new cards were in ray tracing when he said that. Please re-read what I posted.

Cobra95187d ago (Edited 87d ago )

Best case under very specific circumstances, 2X:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

In general, going from the extra CUDA cores and bandwidth/memory speed, it looks like 30-50% to me. Strictly a ballpark guess. We need benchmarks!

I recommend watching all of that GN video for more info. Steve Burke knows his stuff.

SlashHabit87d ago

uhu, it's still 4x faster. The new cards uses gddr6 memory not gddr5.
1080TI - 2080TI
11gbps - 14gbps (gddr6 not 5)
484GB/s - 616GB/s
3584Cores - 4352Cores
The 2080TI runs Infiltrator at 60fps while the 1080TI does it at 30fps.

Gahl1k87d ago

In nVidia keynote, Jensen Huang stated that the GTX 1080 Ti can run a 4K demo demonstrating DLSS at 30-ish FPS, 'Turing GPU is twice the performance.' He also stated that the 'RTX 2070 has higher performance than the Titan Xp,' so RTX 2080 Ti will be much higher (take that with a grain of salt), but we won't know for sure before an initial in-depth review (Digital Foundry, FTW).

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dolfa87d ago

Expect 10-20 FPS increase over the 10xx series, ray tracing is just marketing bs

jaycptza87d ago

ray tracing is a thing its just to expensive to apply in games and maintain frame rates. bettre for people doing rendering

Neonridr87d ago

Blast Processing is back baby!

InKnight7s87d ago

Can someone explain to me why this 2080 didn't exceed 8gb? I mean what is the point? is GDDR6 will create huge gap or just semi-Ti gap?

Bladesfist87d ago

Because no game uses all 8GBs and the cost of GDDR6 is probably higher than the cost of GDDR5 especially if the rumoured reasoning for Turing being so late is true. The rumour being that they were waiting on very limited amounts of GDDR6 from Samsung.

I_am_Batman87d ago

Lack of competition from amd and overstocking the 10series chips are likely contributing factors for the late release. The limited spec sheets look ok so far and the raytracing capabilities are promising for the future but I have to say even though I expected steep prices these are actually higher than I thought. Can't wait for more information to come out and the first in-depth reviews though.

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