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Will Sony respond to the permanent Xbox One price cut?

Thanks to an extended price cut, the Xbox One is gaining in on the PS4. Is it time for Sony to respond with their own price cut?

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Might want to correct that article. Microsoft said clearly it's a promotion and not permanent.
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Mechanism3376d ago (Edited 3376d ago )

No. XBone did some good work in the US and UK over Christmas, but the PS4 has still been outselling the XBone globally.. Sony has the first half of the year wrapped up nicely with exclusives, and I even think NPD's will return back in Sony's favour.

An announcement at the next Playstation Experience is more likely, or even possibly E3.

The price drop isn't even permanent (marvellous journalism!), but I think it will become permanent once Sony put that nail in the coffin with a price drop.

insomnium23376d ago (Edited 3376d ago )

Why would they? PS4 would be out of stock all the time if the price would be lower.

Another thing is the games. They are now finally starting to push some high profile games out in droves. How about seeing how the sales act when that happens before dropping the price?

If xbone starts to win or even out the sales globally AND if the new games don't do a damn thing to counter that then maybe it's time to drop the price. That's a whole lot of ifs in there. It would need a miracle for that to happen though. Many miracles in a row.

Death3376d ago (Edited 3376d ago )

I don't think the fear of being sold out is the issue. What is the point of selling at a loss or cutting into profits at this time if you are Sony? The bottom line is Sony really needs to make a profit with the Playstation. The companies health is the worst it has been in a very long time. The PS4 is helping change that and needs to continue contributing to the companies bottom line.

Look at Microsofts last quarterly results and you can see how the $50 price drop affected the division. Microsoft still had close to half a billion in profit, but that profit came at a cost of $1.5 billion more in revenue over the quarter before it. For Microsoft it's not an issue, but for Sony that would be very difficult to do and to this point they don't need to.

XBLSkull3376d ago

Nope, they cannot afford to. Sony didn't make a penny last year, but they did manage to lose a figure in the billions.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3376d ago

@"Will Sony respond to the permanent Xbox One price cut?"

They already did...

$399 PS4 with The Last Of Us Remastered

$399 PS4 choose a game: Destiny, Far Cry 4, Little Big Planet 3, or NBA 2k15.

No price drop required.

OB1Biker3376d ago

Another misinformation article ... Anyway I think when the PS4 is really cheaper to make (which is more and more likely) there's no reason why they wouldn't cut the price. Sounds fair enough to me.

ABizzel13376d ago

No they have no need to. The PS4 still sold well in the US and UK despite the XBO price drop. Now sales are neck and neck after the holiday rush has ended (like I said it would), but Sony has some big exclusive for the next few months, so they're going to keep their $400 price and maximize profit.

They'll have a price cut this holiday when it's needed to keep momentum strong, but that's not happening until September at the earliest.

Army_of_Darkness3376d ago

PS4: Hey xbone! what's the hold up?? you like titan fall 9 miles behind me bro!!

Xbone: dude, I gained a little weight this Gen and feel pretty bulky right now, plus my vision is blurry sometimes and can't see any further than 900p... I'm feeling Forced'ta Kinect with a bike or something to at least catch up a bit...

ps4: sure, go ahead... use a bike if you really need too. LOL! I'll allow it for now ;-)

and so the race continues..

donthate3376d ago

I see people keep throwing the worldwide number and how Sony is still in the lead, but what they fail to see is business isn't just about outselling the competition, but how it fares over time. Ideally you would increase sales every month, quarter or year taking market share from competition.

MS is doing just that, they are taking marketshare and significantly increasing sales period-over-period.

Sony will look at the US and UK market and have to respond if MS continues to put pressure i.e. that their sales continue to hold well. Lowering their prices in those region won't hurt them in other regions.

However, Sony cannot afford it as their mobile division did worse than expected and was a huge bet. Sony keep selling or divesting off their divisions, and the only one really making money is their gaming division. Loosing much needed profit to pad Sony's losses isn't an option so Sony might just let MS continue to take marketshare.

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SoapShoes3376d ago

It's not even selling more at a cheaper price now according to major online retailers. I think they'll drop it for holiday 2015, seems likely but not before that.

Death3376d ago

<sigh>

Why do people still use Amazon.com to gauge console sales? Weren't people saying PS4 would top Xbox One in December based on Amazon ranking? I honestly have no clue who will come out on top in January. If I were to guess I would say PS4 since Microsoft did the temporary price hike at the beginning of the month. I wouldn't use retailer ranking to make the call though.

SoapShoes3376d ago

Well I said, "according to major online retailers" which isn't just Amazon nor is it implying overall sells. It means just what it says I agree it could go either way though.

kneon3376d ago

@Death

Amazon has always been right about the sales ranking for consoles. It accurately shows the XB1 on top for December so I don't know what you're talking about.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

And now it shows the PS4 ahead of the XB1 for January

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

PS4 #8, XB1 #18

Bathyj3376d ago

"Xbox One is gaining in on the PS4"

Stopped reading right there.

VforVideogames3376d ago

Yes Sony has to lower the price or else Xbox its gonna take over US and UK sooner than latter (has anybody seen how close Xbox is to take over?) and may be Japan. The rest of the world its not that important.

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mkis0073375d ago

At the current rate of ps4 gaining a 1.2 million lead in the us every January - October and then losing 500-700,000 in Nov and Dec, Xbox 1 will still never catch up :)

Question answered :)

The rest of the world is responsible for over half the world wide sales...

The japan part is just silly.

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DarkOcelet3376d ago

Its unknown whether the price cut is permanent or not and Sony has nothing to worry about as long as its on the lead and have many exclusives in the upcoming months.

Death3376d ago

I agree to a degree. Sony needs to focus on Sony and the companies overall health. As long as PS4 sales are doing well there is no reason to reduce profitability. The only thing they need to be concerned with is how much marketshare will be lost due to Xbox One sales which have been on the rise in North America and the UK. This could have a long term impact if left unchecked.

All data present and historical points towards Sony having the sales advantage globally. I don't see any reason for Sony to be worried the Xbox will outsell them worldwide. Currently the PS4 is priced $100 less than the higher end Xbox One and $50 more than the lower end SKU's. It's not a bad place to be and sales show this.

DarkOcelet3376d ago

It seems also people are forgetting that the price cut is not everywhere. Middle East has no Xone price cut at all while the PS4 is more likely to have a price cut in certain store offers. So PS4 have a tremendous edge here too.

DanielGearSolid3376d ago

They haven't yet, so i assume no

Malice-Flare3376d ago

if sales slow down, they'll cut the price. bundling TLOU permanently can be considered a price cut...

lemoncake3376d ago

Ps4 is still selling well and Sony need all the money they can get, until that changes don't expect any price cut.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 6h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken17h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 2h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 2h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 2h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola22h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 1h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 1h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

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jznrpg1d 18h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 13h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies22d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

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