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AMD Showcases Crysis 3 & Battlefield 4 Running On Laptops Via Cloud Gaming

AMD has released a new video, in which Alex Nataros, CEO of Leap Computing, explain the technologies behind cloud gaming and the benefits of what its solution brings to gamers everywhere.

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Godz Kastro3967d ago

Cloud based tech is the future. I wanna see what MS does in this category.

Ares84HU3967d ago

It is the future unfortunately. But I don't like it. It takes away our ownership of video games and it's bad news for collectors like myself.

bandit9053967d ago

same here I cant wait, its gonna be awesome

hello123967d ago

cloud gaming is the future. Sony fans will see the future on xb1 soon enough and the hate will diminish.

MrDead3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Cloud gaming is not exclusive to Xbox. There is nothing stopping Sony, Nintendo or any company from using this.

Ripsta7th3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

Its not exclusive but MS and other parties seem to be the ones hard at work to perfect this new tech. Meaning when it finally takes off they will have the most experience
@Ares below- PS now is completely different to the Cloud computing MS is doing, as you guys have said many times

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ3967d ago

Im sorry, last time I checked PS4 and WiiU did not have the hardware for Cloud Computing on the same level MS does...? Xbox One has a Faster CPU, 4 Move Engines specifically for Cloud Computing and a fast 32mb ESRAM Cache for read/write and dumping dumping of data... Just saying

MrSec843967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

@GUTZ all of that is meaningless, all any platform needs to use cloud computing is an Ethernet connection or wifi.

This is proven by the fact that this guy isn't using an Xbox One for each of these games, he's using APU based laptops.

Even an APU isn't needed to use "the cloud", so yes Nintendo and Sony could use this if they want to.

I'd be interested to know how far away the servers are from those laptops.
If the servers are in the building I'd be laughing my backside off.

Even if MS managed to reduce the latency down to reasonable levels, there's still the issue of cost of servers and maintenance.
Keep in mind that multiple times the processing power of Xbox One, means multiple times the cost of an Xbox One's production costs, times that by the amount of people you need to provide external processing power for at high demand times.

Reality is that Microsoft will want to make money off of this, so Xbox Live Gold isn't going to cover the price of entry for customers, more than likely a subscription system will be needed for MS to make money and gamers won't want to pay more than they already have for the console and their yearly XBL sub fee.

dcbronco3967d ago

MrSec, Microsoft already has a cloud server system in place. It's called Azure. 800,000 servers spread throughout the world. And their division that contains Azure already has revenue of several billion dollars a year and was the biggest gainer in the cloud space last year (one of). So business' are already footing the bill. Gamers will be piggy backing on that. And trust me, business' pay a premium for these services. Though it is still a savings overall for them.

Also as far as an increase in cost to reproduce Xbox One power you're looking at that wrong. The latest AMD chips to come out that replaces the Jaguar cores with Puma cores are 40% faster, lower powered and use a slightly modified Jaguar core. They just made it more efficient and rebranded it. It also has a much better GPU still built on the same GCN design found in the Xbox One. I believe the clock speed is higher on both sides also. I'm sure the server won't be spending it's entire time focused on one Xbox. Each will handle many. I would bet a server with several APUs and a bunch of RAM could be set up to run a given map for MP or level for SP in a physics model that would then run scenarios received from a user. Since both would have the level loaded, the server just does the scenario and updates the results.

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Ares84HU3967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

@KNWS

Answer: Playstation Now

Guess you are too much of a Xbox fanboy to know about it. But please google it.

Thanks!

Nekroo913967d ago

Sony is the one doing cloud gaming.. MS is cloud computing.

What kind of fanboy are you when you dont even know this

Pricey3967d ago

KNWS why don't you get the difference between streaming a game( OnLive, PS Now, AMD) and offloading processing to a server. Playstation fans are skeptical about the later not the former.

It seems to me that KNWS knows f-all.

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CertifiedGamer3967d ago

In what maps is there a helicopter that you fly? I think that BF2.

uth113967d ago

It's not the future until internet bandwidth is beefed up across the board. Still plenty of areas where internet is too slow to support game streaming properly

lokirevamped3966d ago

I agree, but some of us have fast enough internet, I have 150\65, Fios.

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer11d ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole11d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK10d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent7510d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM10d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif10d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer10d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin10d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer7d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent7510d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer10d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM10d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused11d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher11d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning7711d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay10d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer10d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D & 9900X3D 3D V-Cache CPUs Now Available

AMD launches the Ryzen 9 9950X3D for $699 & Ryzen 9 9900X3D for $599, offering the best-in-class gaming & content creation CPU performance.

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mkis007110d ago

X3D really turned around AMD's cpu prospects. I wont touch intel now, vs 10 years ago I wouldn't imagine going anywhere near AMD cpu's for gaming only.

ZycoFox110d ago

Zen 1 was merely "meh" IMO, it had major RAM compatibility issues, only really worked with Samsung memory from what I recall, and performance was ok at best, the 8700k launched the same year and was top dog even when Zen 2 came out. Though Zen 2 was much better.. it just lacked a bit in gaming, good all rounder chips though for other applications.

AMD are trying to upsell the 9900x3D to 9950x3D, pricing is weird (too close) and odd chip configuration.. it should be a lot cheaper. They did the same with the 9070 -> 9070XT.

Some funny choices going on at AMD..

FinalFantasyFanatic110d ago (Edited 110d ago )

Zen 1 was pretty great for what it was, considering that was the first time in a long time that AMD was actually competitve with Intel, it was also the first time you could easily get something with more than 4 cores/threads. The RAM issues was frustrating AF though, especially since Zen 1 performance relied so heavily on fast RAM.

If we ignore the price, the 990x3D and 9950X3D look pretty great provided you can actually make use of those extra cores/threads, otherwise the 9800x3D is better value.

PixelOmen110d ago

Zen1 was the beginning of the turn around and by Zen3 it was starting to become ultra competitive. X3D was really only the final nail in the coffin.

Jingsing109d ago (Edited 109d ago )

I guess the real question is how many compatibility issues will arise from their motherboard chipsets? also the selection of motherboards for AMD is more limited too. Which often limits what kind of form factor build you want. Last time around I avoided AMD due to their chipsets having horrid USB3 support with accessories. You tend not to see these kind of issues being talked about, it ends up just being games and synthetic benchmarks.

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Project Amethyst: AMD & Sony Collaborate on FSR 4

AMD and Sony co-develop FSR 4 upscaler under Project Amethyst, enhancing visuals and performance for future PlayStation consoles.

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Eonjay114d ago

Clearly there was a colab as every game used to demo the tech was a WWS game. And of course they alluded yo this as far bask as the Pro Tech deep dive.

This means that PSSR is probably a lightweight CNN version of FSR 4 which would make sense due to the Pro and PS6 being AMD cards. The biggest relevant difference in the PRO and the RDNA 4 cards being that the PC cards have 3x+ the TOPS.

They both deliver good results with FSR4 having a better denoiser.

PanicMechanic110d ago

I remember Cerny saying that whatever developments were made with PSSR for the prop, that tech would translate into and help develop FSR 4. Sony is making the right moves with AMD

Eonjay110d ago

Yes it feels like they helped them catch up with ML real fast.

Starman69114d ago

Can't believe how good God of war Ragnarok is on the pro 😳

DivineHand125113d ago

The question is, is PSSR going to be replaced by FSR4 on future playstation consoles and is the PS5 Pro FSR4 capable?

--Onilink--113d ago

Unlikely given that FSR4 is only supported by the 9000 cards.

I would expect the PS6 to use FSR4 since it is definitely superior to PSSR, not really much of a point in keeping investing separate resourced into PSSR, but who knows if both will be available on PS6

ABizzel1113d ago

FSR 5 would likely be out by then and probably a transformer model. I assume Sony will continue to use PSSR for branding purposes but it will essentially be FSR 5 with a PlayStation specifically solution.

The_Hooligan113d ago

In my opinion I think they will still use PSSR for the PS6 mainly because that was a big marketing point for the PS5 Pro and Sony probably doesn't want to abandon it. They might call it PSSR 2.0 or something and will probably use similar tech as FSR4 due to the partnership between the two companies. I doubt PS6 will use anything similar to the 9000 cards so won't have the same bells and whistles as the FSR4.

NoDamage113d ago

I was going to build a PC soon with a last gen and card but this makes me think I should wait to make sure I get the best experience in the next generation as well.

I guess I'm going to be all in on AMD which is the opposite of what I would normally lean towards.

ZycoFox113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

Value wise the 9070XT is a decent card if you don't want to pay for Nvidia ones.. That being said, make sure you're happy with the restrictions using some software, if you're happy with just gaming though AMD should be fine.

Probably best bet price wise is get the 9070XT and then upgrade next gen in a couple of years.. With Nvidia this new gen has been a bust, only the 5090 is a decent step up, even the 4090 beats the 5080 by a fair margin.

Hopefully Nvidia bounces back next gen.. though I expect refreshed 5000 cards before then, 5080 Ti / Super will probably be = to a 4090.

NoDamage113d ago

Thanks! I'll look into software restrictions. Never thought there would be issues there and it's important since I do some graphic design. I was thinking about the 9070 but will have to wait till a it's actually available to buy without the current nonsense.

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