The Fanboy War has to Stop

This name calling and discussion breaking fanboy stuff has to end. Now I’m not speaking of the discussions of the merits of a system or even a technical discussion about why you one console may be technical superior over the other. No what I speak of is the poeple who interjects into intelligent conversation with their hate spewing comments and completely destroying what was intelligent discourse between two or more people.

[mrpsychoticstalker]

Why should it stop?

There will always be fanboyism

We see it in sports
IIn competitions
In games
In consoles
In brands

It makes everything much more fun and gives the particular (sport, competition, brand, game, console) more meaning.

[Cueil]

I don't think the arguments need to stop... or the discussions that's what makes this stuff fun, but I think the dirty and aggressive stuff needs to go away... and it's just my opinion of course.

[randomass171]

Well said. Consider yourself bubbled.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Sure but let me break it down like this. And as per usual I am going to tell it exactly how it is and how I'm currently seeing it.

Sony took jabs at MS and necessary jabs at EA E3 for no apparent reason.

Sony told a white lie about BF Hardline alpha version will be running at 1080p.

Sony turning down EA Access.

Last but not least Killzone Shadowfall not running at 1080p and now are currently getting sued over it.

Now some of these accusations are worse than others but it seems fanboys aren't batting an eye towards on any this its like Sony gets a slap on the wrist with a few negative written articles about it.

But yet a single Xbox game that's 900p gets all the hate, trolling and ridiculed with numerous negative articles written about it afterwards like its something new in Xbox version of games.

Sony turning down EA access is an interesting one only because Sony said its not for our fanbase knowingly their fanboys will defend and obey there decision at the same time defend PSNOW.

Now I truly think the last accusation is ridiculous in itself simply because of the resolution-gate is actually taking money right out of somebodies pocket.

A manufacturer is actually getting sued Over resolution? It really got so bad fanboys are suing Sony over this?

You see it wouldn't so bad if fanboys didn't put resolution on the highest pedestal this generation and actually focused on the damn games like I been stating.

The fanboy is developing perception that's turning into actual real world altering consequence. I thought I would never see the day yes these fanboys need to be controlled.

There's no telling what they could do next.

[Prime157]

I agree with Cueil... The hateful, trolling fanboys need to go. However. The ones that can be objective and create discussion while listening to the others are good.

Then there are closet fanboys like angelic, who always make great points but need help on the delivery. Sometimes you can't tell if he's'she's serious as the opposite fanboy can point out just as many counter arguments about Microsoft....

That's where the fanboy wars start... failing to deliver a good argument by over arguing one side's faults without acknowledging the other's faults.

[dcbronco]

The problem is the lack of integrity in commenting. If people were consistent and honest there could be a civil debate. But when so many people in society, not just gaming, choose sides over the truth or even reality it's hard to have a good conversation. I believe N4G needs to go back to a separate section for normal conversation and one for fanboys to drive hits. The moderators would have a lot fewer comments to monitor, the nonsense won't drive away more educated readers and fanboy nonsense would get you banned.

We need a section with a ban-hammer.

[salmon_slapped]

Out of all the communities I'm involved with gaming is by far the worst. Yes there are fanboys elsewhere but none of them take it as far.

Ex. some people are huge fans of Ford or Chevy or Dodge, but they can still respect other brands. They may insult fans, but never make threats or tell people to kill themselves which has happened from this gen, and that's simply taking it to far.

[46889337]

I rarely see death threats being spouted by videogame fanboys. Either way, those are present in music and movie fanbases as well.

[Cueil]

Sports is pretty bad especially the two Footballs

[Prime157]

I don't know, "swatting" is a thing. Fez's creator and flappy bird's creator quit because of threats...

Religion has the worst fans ever. Crusades of genocide... sports fans physically fight each other... politics are opinion-based and has assassinations...

I'd say gamers are annoying, but somewhat calm comparatively.

[iceman06]

I don't know about that. In the end, this isn't really life or death. It's just games. Try going to a news site after they post an article about religion, race, politics, or sexual preference. Trust me, you will be begging to come back to N4G because none of what we talk about here has that serious of an effect on people's lives. Those topics that I just mentioned...well...they impact everybody in one way or another.

[tinynuggins]

I don't think they need to stop. I just think that the discussions should be more intelligent and less embarrassing.

[crusf]

"Introduce a little anarchy in the established order"

[KwietStorm_BLM]

There is literally nothing fun about coming to a particular site on the regular, or group of sites really, to get your daily updates and news, with the occasional like-minded discussion, only to have to wade through the fanboy waters like you're escaping Alcatraz. It's a cesspool no matter what site. And the thing is, most of these people are taking it seriously. They actually have a hatred for the "other" platform, and it helps NOTHING. It's pathetic how far some people take it. Some of the thoughts they out on screen are down right demented.

[SegaGamer]

I agree completely KwietStorm. Since the reveal of the Xbox One and PS4 it has gotten way out of hand. In the comments section of every single piece of news about the Xbox One or PS4 it is full of absolute crap that is so childish it makes the gaming community look pathetic.

It ends up being 5 pages of nonsense. People just need to grow up.

You're right, it's not fun in the slightest, it makes this site unbearable.

[MRMagoo123]

@segagamer

It was exactly like that last gen with ps3 and 360 , just this time xbone is getting all the attacks and that's the only reason people want it to stop, I can bet if the ps4 was getting smashed world wide like the xbone is there would not even be an article about this in the first place. I am not saying it's good or bad but this concern about fanboy wars was completely missing last gen yet this gen it's been all about "can't we all just get along"

[AAWELLS09]

Totally agree and unfortunately it's never gonna stop. I rarely comment anywhere anymore. DSOGaming in now one of worst. Go there and run through a few articles see some of the worst sh*t you'll ever see. I loved that site at one time.

[Jay70sgamer]

kwietStorm....you are completely right...ive been gaming since the 70s and its the worse now than its ever been ...i remember Atari, colecovision,intellivision competition ...also the nintendo,sega competition and it was never this bad ..i agree people are gonna like what they like but the putting down of other consoles is stupid and immature just because its not the console you have or like......enjoy what you enjoy and have fun and be happy and stop wishing the end of a console its not that serious ....true gamers know this

[gamerfan0909]

Your point is half right and half wrong. When I root for a sports team I usually root for that team because 1 I was born in the city the team represents, 2 a player I lik is on the team, or it was ingrained in me from childhood to like that team. The thing is I love the yankees. I'm a Yankee fanboy, but I don't hate the other 29 teams and hate baseball outside of my little bubble. The problem is you have people that say they're gamers, but then completely thrash another 50 percent or more of people producing content that making the art what it is.

[Drithe]

I could not have put it better. Good job mrpsycho!

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Well yeah but there should be individuals who would want to control it. Stopping it is impossible but there is something you can do about it.

[starchild]

I don't agree. It's as stupid in sports as in any other area. It's nothing but a form of primitive tribalism. An us vs them mentality.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

Depends on the fans . Some fans of sport teams , consoles , ect... could go at each other , with a fun attitude . But some fans can be....well not so nice.

[xX1NORM1Xx]

I'm sorry but in what way in name calling, death threats, racism and homophobia fun last I checked none of those were fun at all.

[bennissimo]

<waiting for the first person to actually from in a resolution debate>

[Magicite]

to a certain degree.

[MuhammadJA]

We need the open zone back. I remember all the laughs I had from fanboys arguing with their lame spelling and everything! XD

[mikemadden]

Real talk.

[_FantasmA_]

No, no, no. The show must go on.

[Cueil]

I agree, but the ugly stuff should be ignored

[Alicornium]

I don't think the discussions should actually stop, but I think immature people who don't realize you can have fun on both consoles without purposely bashing the other for no reason should just go back to their dark, sad holes.

[crusf]

They will never stop unless we come to a clear consensuses that no matter what console or game we play all that really matters is that were having fun.

[Gamer777]

It will not stop as long as sites keep posting click bait and biased opinion pieces to feed trolls and drones.

[gamerfan0909]

Meh idiots will always argue over stuff. It will never " stop". That goes for video games, comics, technology, ect. The thing I've never got about the video game arguments is people rarely argue about the video games, but rather argue about the systems. When was the last time you saw someone debate games within the same genre against each other? People compare 1 plastic box against another plastic box and then make up their arguments off of useless facts. I've never got how people are that loyal to consoles that they will refuse to play other consoles or non-stop talk crap about another consoles exclusives and features like the box has zero benefit.

[BBBQ_BYOBB]

It's alright liking a platform, it's the hating that gets annoying.

[gamerfan0909]

There's a difference between liking the console and flat out shitting on everything else that makes up the art. Your comment is absolutely right. If someone loves JRPG's and that's the only genre they play then they'll more than likely only buy a PS4 and Vita for this gen. I'm ok with that. That doesn't make him any less of a gamer. My problem lies with people that will buy a console that suits their needs and then continuously take the piss out of everything else.

[BBBQ_BYOBB]

Exactly, I'm sure they all have pros and cons.

[Rhythmattic]

BBBQ
Perfectly said, and all in one sentence.

Bub up

[CorndogBurglar]

1st world problems...

[JediDiah]

Let me get this straight....you want the immature fanboys to act mature? Sure, just like they want icewater in Hell...not gonna happen.

[Gezmoyassine]

No,i say that the Fanboys/Girls have to grow up!But i'm not holding my breath.

[ArnoDorian]

Fanboy War needs to stop? Well for business it is completely healthy, because it builds competition and innovation, and if they don't have that, we will be getting games like CoD. Which imo Fanboy war should not stop, however we should have healthy ones, not the unhealthy ones.

For Healthy ones, clear and concise conversations. Healthy arguements.

Unhealthy ones. Screaming at each other, crying. etc

[gamerfan0909]

The fanboys don't build competition. The game creators, publishers and the general public do that.

[ArnoDorian]

True, but what good is that when they don't get customer feedback.

[Spotie]

And the companies do all that for the people who buy their stuff. When and if you've done things right, you'll find yourself with fanboys.

[N4g_null]

A collection of people looking and waiting or even making up stuff to deter a brand or offering wholly bad advice or customer feedback is bad.

Like telling sony they should scrap the ps4 and use a i7 with 64 gigs of ram and the new 600 meg/sec solid-state drives. Sure it would costs you $3000 dollars and I can afford that but many can't. Or telling ms to go software only as if people on other platforms are clamoring for their brand of games on other platforms.

You don't get genuine feed back from customers any more. You get pr sound bites and corporate culture. Maybe that also stems from the fact that gaming media is big business now. Before the manufacturers had their own magazine. Now we have these all in one mags that are causing a lot of friction. Which is why I like the mii verse. If you don't have a wiiu it's pretty hard to get on mii verse and it cuts down on trolling.

[indivisibles]

Bigger issues out there as far as gaming is concerned.

[LogicStomper]

Just because there are larger issues does not mean we ignore the problem altogether.

[RIP_Cell]

it's one thing to wish for your platform of choice to be successful, another to wish other platforms to fail.

[TheEternalGamer]

no. we are dedicated gamers just like the rest of y'all. We love gaming but we like to talk about our favorite things and dislikes towards other things sometimes its fun just to argue at the end of the day we all still respect our opinions at the end of the day but we just like discussing this type of stuff because we are passionate about gaming.

People take Fanboys and their "Wars" way too seriously i argue bunch about which games, consoles etc is better with a bunch of people i still respect their opinions though. Those who aren't involved in Fanboy wars don't understand the reason behind them. Were just passionate gamers like the rest of y'all we just like too discuss more in depth about consoles like specs, hardware, etc.

doesn't mean we don't respect others opinions though we just take gaming as a lifestyle over just something you do for a little bit.

[LogicStomper]

TheEternalGamer 20 Days ago:

"And Halo will be 144p at 12 Frames Per Second xD #dealwithit

Sony is Better. Sony is Life. Sony is Love. #Dealwithit
MicroShaft is a piece of garbage so go crawl back in your garbage can with your garbage games and exclusives and #dealwithit"

I think your quote speaks for itself.

[TheEternalGamer]

is someone butthurt over a little joke i made 20 days ago? are you losing sleep over that comment i made 20 days ago? lmao i think you need some mental help dude. loool. if your losing sleep over my comments like that. LMAO!!!

[LogicStomper]

I had never seen that comment prior to the moment I read this comment which I'm replying to. So your argument about me losing sleep over something 20 days ago is invalid.

Also, care to explain which part of my comment shows I was butt-hurt? Or are you just mentally incapable to comprehend that your argument was trashed, so you result to mockery to hide your insecurity?

Too scared to comment now?

[TheEternalGamer]

no i just have a life. i can't comment right away like you can. lmao. sorry dude i got work now. Have fun playing world of warcraft in your mother's basement. lmao.

[LogicStomper]

"no i just have a life. i can't comment right away like you can. lmao. sorry dude i got work now. Have fun playing world of warcraft in your mother's basement. lmao."

Wow, so original.

/s

[Vanfernal]

Well Sega does what Nintendon't.... The fanboy war has ALWAYS existed and it will always be there. I just think that the Internet finally gave people a forum to express their rabid fanboyism. And I think that mostly the so called video game "journalists" are to blame for making flame bait articles that incite this sort of behavior.

[Saints94]

Oh nice, another article that people on both side agree on and then forget about. Next.

[Tedakin]

Video games are the only commercial product I can think of that causes people to act this way. You don't see Coke drinkers arguing with Pepsi drinkers. People who like Papa Johns insulting people who like Pizza Hut. It's just bizarre. It ultimately comes down to "My mass marketed plastic game box built by a multi-billion dollar corporation that doesn't give a fuck about me is better than your mass marketed plastic game box built by a multi-billion dollar corporation that doesn't give a fuck about you." This isn't like sports where one team wins the Super Bowl and the other came up short. If both sell well and are successful, they both won. Video gamers are the pettiest and most entitled acting consumers there are. It's like they think of a game is good on this console or that console sells well it diminishes their own console of choice.

[iceman06]

Have you been in the comment section for smart phones?? Trust me, they are just as bad. Maybe it's something about tech, and the costs to get it, that make people want to feel justified in their purchase?

[Tedakin]

I think fanboyism is a tiny minority of nerds with nothing better to do. An extremely vocal and obnoxious minority.

[iceman06]

Very, very true.

[Drithe]

Sega sucks!

[Ninver]

As long as there are multiple consoles and people who buy them religiously, there will always be fanboyism. Every generation there's a supposed "victor" and "loser". The industry is such a joke now even journalist are forced to give up their integrity for click bait articles and sales (p*nis) messuring. Sad to say but the days of just enjoying the system you own will never see the light of day again! So to the people who can't handle the fanboy wars I say stay off the internet completely of man up and deal with the stupidity. Doesn't mean you have to joint it.

[N4g_null]

Nah the war is just going to kill the industry bit by bit until it looses it's point of existing.

[Goku781]

Thats like asking people not to voice their opinions, or not to feel passionate about something they love. Like asking cav fans not to talk about weather they like the fact LeBron James is coming back or not and not to be for or against another team. You cant censor everybody especially when people's hard earned money is involved. Human nature. Shut down all site that post and present these this vs that stories, and the sales reporting if it poses that much of a problem to the people. The only time the companies want the team rooting to stop is when their team is losing.

[Godmars290]

What's needed is:

1) Honest representation from devs and publishers. No more misrepresentation like Alien Colonial Marines or much of what goes on with DLC and microtransations.

2) When an exclusive comes out that's good or has potential, the other fanboy camp not ragging on it. Likewise when an exclusive looks bad or is of questionable quality, such comments should at the very least not be blown off as trolling or fanboyism. If you're trying to defend "your" game, you have to present counter-points. Not just wave the fanboy flag.

[Max-Zorin]

The hatred the gaming community have for each other is on a Kazuya and Heihachi level.

[Jury]

Now that playstation is dominating. Xbox fanboys want the fighting to stop.

[Saito]

Interesting indeed.

[MasterCornholio]

In general no one wants to see their favourite team lose. When that happens is when the hate and the stupidity starts. Then when the winning team loses it flips around. The pattern repeats itself over and over again. There is no way to stop this all we can do is live with this. This goes for all groups of fans.

[Godmars290]

Some people who just have a preference for Playstation, like myself, wouldn't mind it ending as well. Just to be able to have a conversation or debate without pointless, personal, insults and even threats.

[LogicStomper]

How do you know it is only the Xbox fanboys that want it to stop?

[Eejanaika]

this site is for fanboys.

[Ninver]

so are you included in the generalization of the people on this site or did you magically exclude yourself?

[Eejanaika]

I choose not to get into little boys arguements over which console is better.
Instead i choose to play my console instead of having useless arguements over n4g which console is better.

Go ahead and look at my comment histroy.
These 2 comments are the first ones ive made in several days

[Ninver]

I'm not attacking you. If anything I agree with not getting involved in useless console arguments. N4G needs to bring back the open zone for laughter sake.

[Jury]

Yep it's awesome. Can't speak my mind on gaf

[Kiwi66]

The thing that i notice a lot is when someone says that they are looking forward to playing a game on xbox or that they are enjoying having an xbox they get bashed for it plus loads of disagrees even though they are just stating their preference without being fanboyish about it

[Iamnemesis4880]

That is right what ever console a person chose they should not be bashed for it. They chose what to spend there hard earned money. Don't bash them for it. With 90% of games for the consoles being third party games IE Battlefield, AC4 ect ect it is down to choice and what the specials or discounts you can get.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

What about the web sites, that write articles to incite the fanboys ! They should take some of the blame.

[GordonKnight]

The fanboy wars are ridiculous, but Microsoft is getting its first big taste of this Gen. Nintendo has for the most part always had it the worst. Playstation had it bad last Gen.

It is fun to debate as long as the low blow aren't used.

Most people hate on a console because they can afford all three consoles.

[Iamnemesis4880]

That is the truth but all i see is the big company's all of us know them, they will toss napalm on the fire to boost the sales, But when the arguments go from whose console is better to total insults and threats to someone well-being that crosses the line and those trolls need to stop.

[SaveFerris]

Fanboys will be fanboys because of human nature, but it isn't helped by some 'journalists' posting article after article to fan the flames.
And as @Godmars mentioned, for developers and publishers to be more transparent about their game and the deals they make for 'exclusives' etc.

Fanboy wars. Fanboy wars never change.

[mananimal]

NEVER!!!

[GodGinrai]

I started the console war. The illuminati paid me to get this show on the road. You dont have the power to stop it. None of you.

You wanted the truth...can you handle the truth?

[iceman06]

I don't know why...but I laughed at this!!!

[thexmanone]

You are so funny, will you be my friend?

[GodGinrai]

@thexmanone yes, Ill be your friend. add me!

[MasterofMagnetism]

Agreed but it will never end.