GamingWorm Says:
Nvidia G-Sync technology monitors which enable gamers to get rid off stutters , lags and tearing. How is that possible. As you know if V-Sync is off it may causes screen tearing several times as you can see in following picture.
Big Format Gaming Displays have been custom-designed to deliver the ultimate 65” 4K 120Hz G-SYNC HDR PC gaming experience, for enthusiasts that demand the absolute best.
If you think a 65" 4KTV with a 120hz panel and Gsync will cost less than 1800? A 27" 4K monitor with Gsync costs almost $1000 lol.
I would be shocked if this cost under $3000
It'll cost crap tons, a panel that big with hdr and a high refresh rate? G-sync too? Nope, that's going to be over $2000 here. I predict 3000, then a little on top for attaching "gamer" to the title.
G-Sync makes complete sense on consumer televisions. "face of sarcasm" HDMI is already coming with a display sync technology this year. So G-Sync is already dead. Buying NVIDIA proprietary tech is a fools errand.
G-sync is the superior technology but free sync is cheaper to integrate, nvidia are just being dicks for not supporting it. I think the struggle between the two will continue for a couple more years.
What is G-Sync and why is it so expensive?
What does it offer that makes me want to spend 3times the money a decent 4k TV costs?
Serious questions.
it matches the refresh rate of the TV to the framerate of what you are displaying, making for an overall much smoother experience even in unlocked framerates and removing screen tearing
G-sync has extra hardware added as well while free sync can be done with the current hdmi specifications. Personally I'm hedging my bets on free sync winning out over G-sync because it's cheaper and slowly catching up to the performance of G-sync.
WoW! It feels like NVIDIA has found out, that there are PC gamers that play using a HDTV set on the couch. Please don't cost an arm and a leg.
"Please don't cost an arm and a leg."
LOL this is nVidia we're talking about. it will!
It's nvidia, so it wouldn't be cheap, possibly not even reasonably priced.
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I got the Asus PG279Q ROG and it's great at upscaling!! Got it on sale for way cheaper
Gsync monitors are just too damn expensive. I bought the Samsung QLED 32" 1440p monitor this year with 1ms response time and paid substantially less because of the lack of gsync.
Nvidia really needs to chill on the licensing. Thankfully I haven't played anything that struggles on my system yet, but hopefully pricing comes down to more reasonable levels at some point...
This article is so bad it doesn't even know the basic tech specs of the monitors. PG279Q is rated at 4ms G2G, not 1ms. And it absolutely does not have a scaler.
Resolutions under it's native resolution will look much blurrier so 1080p on this monitor will look MUCH worse than 1080p on a 1080p monitor. But 1440p will look beautiful.
"thrust
You get what you pay for tho like pretty much everything!
G sync is amazing"
Problem is it offers little to nothing over FreeSynce. I have a Acer Predator x34 as my daily monitor on my main system and a VIOTEK GN34C on my secondary system both are extremely similar in specs both 1440p@100hz and curved Ultrawide the Acer is Gsynce and Viotek is Freesynce and I cant really tell any differance going from one to the other espically to justify the extra 500$ the Acer cost over the other.
Yes but you wouldn't get the refresh rate you would with a monitor, or the response time. I think some of the better gaming TV's are about ~14ms of input latency whereas these gaming monitors are as low as 1ms of input latency.
I doubt it would have g-sync and the input would lag in comparison to a good monitor.
I don't think you would notice the 4k with a tv that small. Someone correct me if Im wrong though.
This is a really good deal for a 1080p GSYNC monitor. I bought this in 2015 for $399.
https://www.newegg.com/Prod...
It says $299 right now, don't know how long that price will last.
It’s not.
2K is actually 2048x1080, which has an aspect ratio of roughly 17:9, I believe (correct me here if I’m wrong).
Whereas 1080p (or Full HD) is 1920x1080, with a more standard 16:9 aspect ratio.
Actually, when people say 2k they are usually referring to the 2560×1440 resolution (which is really closer to being 2.5k but that doesn't roll off the tongue as well!).
This keeps the same aspect ratio as 1080p at 16:9
That’s the theatre 2k resolution, you will notice that 4K isn’t actually 3840 * 2160 either when talking film resolutions. Tvs are 16:9 which explains the slight difference, 2k on a monitor or a tv is simply just 1920 * 1080
So I did a little more research, and it seems 2K refers to a resolution that has or is close to having 2000 horizontal lines of pixels, with 2048x1080 being the most commonly seen as 2K.
Also, I agree with kevnb. Calling 1440p a 2K resolution is just wrong.
"Actually, when people say 2k they are usually referring to the 2560×1440 resolution"
Those people are wrong.
For those who have done a lot of research on this, what do people think is currently the best for PC gaming out of 2k 144hz and 4k? From the opinions of people I've spoke to, they seem to think that 4k gaming isn't really all that yet and it doesn't beat a 2k monitor running at 144hz especially for FPS games. One of the first upgrades I'm looking at getting next year and currently leaning towards 2k and 144hz
Currently, 4K in competitive games is more of a luxury for higher display rates, unless you’re willing to sacrifice a lot of performance.
So I’m with you there. There’s no doubt it’s gonna be far more accessible in the future but, right now, it’d probably be wiser to put your money towards something else if you’re in a budget.
stay with 1080 until mid/high GPUs can rock 120+fps on 4K with all the settings up. thats my plan.
By 2k I’m assuming you mean 1440p? Don’t sell those monitors short, they are more like 2.5k.
Nope, the name is based on the horizonal resolution, not vertical.
2k is 2048 × 1080 but to keep a 16:9 aspect ratio it looses pixels and makes it 1920x1080.
4k is 4096 × 2160, but to be 16:9 it uses 3840x2160.
Wow this thread really just shows how little people know about PC around here that you got 8 disagrees.
1080p is just refereed to as 1080 or Full HD
2k is the short hand term for 1440p
It just is, go to any computer forum and ask what 2k is and I guarantee everyone will say 1440p
@Ashlen
"It just is, go to any computer forum and ask what 2k is and I guarantee everyone will say 1440p"
They are half right, 1440 is still part of 2k but it's not 2K resolution. 2560X1440 is QHD or 2.5K, 2k is 2000 horizontal pixels. 1080p Is not officialy called 2k but that's just because of marketing, since 4K resolution has less than 4000 horizontal pixels, 3840x2160 should also not be called 4k using the same logic.
"2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.[1] Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI) defines 2K resolution standard as 2048×1080."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
The only reason 2160P tv's are called 4k, is because it sounds good to the consumers, I can guarantee if tv manufacturers used 2K instead of 1080p to market their televisions, 2k would be a standard name for 1080p. Most movies are mastered using a 2k DI (even movies released on UHD Blu Ray) then they are upscaled to 2160p, because it's the standard for 1080P Blu Ray, movie studios and consumers dont care about 1440, the important ones are 720,1080 and 2160, and that's what companies focus on.
2k is 1440p
Here is a link to Newegg the biggest online PC retailer they have a selection for 2k. When you click 2k you get 1440p monitors.
https://www.newegg.com/Prod...
Your an idiot and your wrong. There are widescreen monitors that are 1080 vertical but they have wider than 2160 horizontal.
Your stubbornly trying to deny your wrong. 2k doesn't have to do with pixel count directly like you imply, it's just the name that was given for 1440p devices after 4k became a thing.
1080 is full HD (FHD)
1440 is QHD or 2k
2160 is UHD or 4k
If you go to Newegg or Amazon or any site that sells computer monitors and type 2k monitor into the search bar the primary result will be 1440p monitors. Now there are widescreen exceptions but primarily it will be 16:9 1440p
This is cut and pasted from Newegg "2560 x 1440 (2K) (999+)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution on the order of 2,000 pixels.
In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant 2K standard. In television, the top-end 1080p high-definition television format qualifies as 2K resolution, having a horizontal resolution of 1920 pixels, with a vertical resolution of 1080 pixels.
You can also look at 4k
4K UHD is a resolution of 3840 pixels × 2160 lines (8.3 megapixels, aspect ratio 16:9) and is one of the two resolutions of ultra high definition television targeted towards consumer television, the other being 8K UHD which is 7680 pixels × 4320 lines (33.2 megapixels). 4K UHD has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution of the 1080p HDTV format, with four times as many pixels overall.
4k UHD = 3840x2160
3840x2160 = 4 * 1920x1080
4k = 4 * 2k
1920x1080 = 2k
How hard is it to understand 1080 is part of 2K. It's just not marketed that way, "ITS JUST MARKETING".
Explain to me why 3840x2160 is considered "4K" but 1920X1080 is not 2k? Because advertisements don't call it 2K? When a Movie is filmed and mastered in 2k they don't use 2560x1440, they use 2048 × 1080.
As such, the DCI termed the 2048 x 1080 resolution as 2K, and the name stuck even when it came to consumer applications. It's no wonder that most consumers with decent home theater systems feel like they're getting an equal or better experience to the movie theater: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW MORE HORIZONTAL PIXELS, THE IMAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME RESOLUTION IN 1080P and 2K, and the pixel density (measured in PPI or pixels per inch) is quite a bit denser on a consumer 1080p display.
http://www.streamingmedia.c...
https://www.google.com/sear...
google search 2k monitor every link goes to sales of QHD aka 1440p.
There are excellent options regarding high refresh monitors for competitive gaming, but you're probably better off with a TV like the TCL P607 if you are focused on high resolution and HDR. You're not going to get even a stable 60 fps at 2160p at max on some games currently. Assassin's Creed: Origins is an example of a particularly demanding game if you're going for maximum possible image quality over refresh rate.
I recommend 1440p and up. I had a 1080p monitor for sometime and once i upgraded to 1440p the difference to me was irreversible.
Have a Acer Predator x34 as my daily monitor on my main system and a VIOTEK GN34C on my secondary system
NVIDIA announced G-SYNC HDR at CES 2017. The first two 4K 144Hz monitors from Asus and Acer will be available in Q2 2017, and they will feature virtually non-existent additional input latency unlike TVs while gaming in HDR.
4k 144hz with HDR and almost NO additional input lag? Yes. Please. This may be the only upgrade paired with the GPU for this year. I want 4k 60FPS or higher in 2017.
It's a shame there is no single-graphics card on market that can support a stable 4k60fps. Vega is shaping up to be that GPU that can hit 4k60fps but they're still showing very little of what it really is and price/release. Nvidia is still pumping out Pascal GPU's to people trying to achieve 4K gaming.
These are packing some incredible technology and the price isn't too crazy. I'm probably going to sell my current Gsync monitor and get one of these. Although I might just wait for a nice 34" 21:9 G-Sync HDR monitor. I'll have to think about it, but these are definitely impressive.
Well. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the chance to play 1080/60 with a new Pc.
Kind Regards rich people, have fun!
i dont think 1080p/60 is really expensive. u drop few settings and u can get 1080p/60 fairly cheap.
It depends if you are playing on a monitor or tv. If is tv PC gaming yes a beefier GPU with at least 4GB of VRAM is required to enjoy Native 1080p/60 frames per second. In contrast a 15in to 25in monitor is already capable of Native 1080p/60 frames per second. My current gaming PC if it were hook to a monitor not HDTV set, I would be playing all my games at 1080p native 60 frames per second.1
Haha. This is why 4k isn't mainstream yet. Don't get me wrong, these are nice and I hope people enjoy them. But, to me (again my personal opinion), I can't justify paying that price for a monitor especially when it cost more than my 60in 4k TV.
It is good now that PC monitors can now do HDR and if your have a beast of a rig then I'm sure you will be in heaven. I know I would be but I'll just stick with my console. Have fun guys.
I am trying to get a second job now so I can save on this an another Titan X Pascal and this monitor! I already have a 4K HDR Samsung KS8000 that can already do this at 120p. When I played Gears of War 4 on it those frames look butter smooth!
The KS8000 (which is an amazing TV for 2016 standards) doesn't actually have native 120Hz, it's interpolated, which is a very different thing. It only adds the dreaded "soap opera effect" which isn't really useful for gaming.
You can find out more in this review http://www.rtings.com/tv/re...
Look really smooth to me. I had it on game mode with no auto motion. You can clearly see in Gears of War 4.
While TV panel itself can display at 120hz, HDMI 2.0 can't handle it at 4k. At least if you don't want to use 4:2:0, dropping color data. Auto motion plus adds over 100ms of delay as well.
I have the ks8500 myself, it's the best tv for gaming I could find. You just have to use the right settings.
Ashunderfire86---i was doing two jobs a few months ago and i'm telling you it's not easy well it depends on what type of work you are doing if it's restaurant with a lot of physical work then prepare your self lol. 20+hrs a day it gives me nightmares just thinking about it but any way dont kill yourself over it. and yes go go for the monitor TV are mostly inaccurate in many things when compared to a monitor so you are not losing anything maybe a smaller size but that's not a big problem
That's not native 120hz though, I have the same TV, it's native 60hz even at 1080p unfortunately.
The KS8000 has nothing on these monitors, man. This is some next level shit.
OLED is next Level shit. These Monitors need to have that technology instead with both HDR and Dolby Vision along with 144FPS! Shit that cost you $2000 or more lol! Wow. LCD is still great, but OLED is king! And for the guy who said Sony 850 is better than KS8000 need to check himself 😂 lol RTing website it is the best TV for gaming, and KS8000 is on bar with KS9000 and KS95000, which is just overkill.
@Ashunderfire86 - yeah I just bought the LG 55E6P OLED 4K. I am hooking it up tonight, but I know I will be blown away.
Gears of War runs at 60fps not 120. Anything above 60hz on a TV is just a marketing gimmick and only useful for the smooth motion effect which gives me a headache.
Yes I understand the whole gimmick but the Fraps give me something higher than 60fps I was using 1440p settings on a 4K TV, and lower somethings to reach that 100fps to 120fps Mark. Gears of War 4 has a lot of advance PC options on it! It is quite state of the art! It look super fast with smooth frames didn't see any ghosting an crazy input lag. Yes I turn on Game Mode, and the PC version doesn't have HDR yet.
For gaming the extra frames can be nice. For TV the only thing it can help is sports. Everything else makes it just look weird. I hate the Soap Opera Effect.
I talk about my experiences yet I get 7 disagrees if people claiming that I am all wrong lol! According to the built in Fraps on Gears 4 I was above 60 frames from 100fps in places to 120fps. The numbers don't lie.
A fairly high price for them, but if they're as good as described it will be worth it. Though I'm still happy with my Ultrawide montior!
The holy grail, for me at least, will be a 34" ultrawide gsync monitor with HDR. I can't wait for when those hit.
I had a Ultrawide that I tested for a few weeks, loved that thing. Mad Max was so beautiful on that wide screen.
What about the 100000000000000000000000000000 000k .00000000005ms G-SYNC+ with 1fps screen
Could you even see the difference that 8K could provide on a measley 30" screen?
@Dasteru - I seriously hope you wouldn't put your face 18" from a 30" screen. Unless you plan on using bottletop glasses the rest of your life :P
I would say I sit about 3 feet away from my computer monitor.
Depends on the game, I get 120fps out of CSGO with a 1070 at 4k. The only games that really give me trouble are TW: Attila and Warhammer.
Yeah, less demanding current games and basically all previous gen games can run at 4k and high framerates fairly easily.
Im waiting to hear more on Lgs lineup. That 32"inch IPS HDR10 panel has my attention. Already has all the gauranteed specifications to run with my PS4 Pro too. Just wanna know price and release date.
I just got a 4k monitor but it doesnt have hdr and i dont think any monitor has hdr. Im suprised at the pace technology is advancing i mean just yesturday saw a vid on ign about 8k tv. Man 4k is not even populat yet among gamers. Some are are wishing for 1080p/60fps. I am lucky to have 4k monitor but im definately expecting affordable hdr monitors in 2017 or early 2018.
I don't know why he's ignoring all the other games on PC. Kind of silly.
"Ha ha, I bet you couldn't tell the difference."
Gee, that' sounds awful like the whole 1080p vs 900p argument, when the difference is much bigger ',;3c
@TheDream
Just because you have bad eyes doesnt mean the rest of us do.
LG have also announced a hdr monitor, will probably be cheaper than this.
Although, these are specialist monitors I guess.
The price of these will reduce soon I hope, 4k tvs are very affordable now.
I will never go back to a low refresh rate monitor without gsync/freesync. Those capabilities make a huge difference to me, so even though other monitors are cheaper I'm not interested if they lack those attributes.
I dont experience any input lag on my Samsung KS7005 while gaming in 4K HDR. But then again I'm not a professional twitch based gamer so I dont need it. But it would be sweet to have a G-sync monitor... But soon new TV's will come with HDMI 2.1 that will have variable refresh rate for reducing or elimination of input lag, stutter and frame tearing. Good to see TV's becoming better and better for gaming.
That's true. More options are always welcome. It will be nice to have variable refresh capability in high quality TVs. Pretty exciting stuff.
3440x1440 master race checking in. I like to have maxed out or very high settings when I play my PC games with at least 60fps. I don't think a 4K monitor is viable unless I go SLI. For now my Asus 34" ROG PG348Q w/100hz G-sync
monitor is perfect for gaming & non-gaming uses.
We need 1440p too! 4k is way too over rigged for may to buy put out options! No 4k!
This is where its at! This is exactly why I've held off on a 4K TV for gaming. Though I will say these monitors are going to be expensive as all hell...on the order of $1200 for a 27 inch monitor. Yikes!
I cannot wait to see the reviews on these suckers. If they can help with my screen tearing on my lower end PCs, Im sold!
Wouldn't mind getting hold of a few of these
Somebody knows a good monitor at least 24" but with sound included ? want to use it for gaming PC and my PS4.
That Asus PG278Q will go well with my red and black CM Storm Trooper case. Which has it's own ROG badge from the motherboard I bought. I have been eye balling that piece of candy since they revealed it. I will have one. :)