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Battlefield 4 to Possibly Bring Keyboard and Mouse Support to PS4

With the introduction of the Battlefield franchise on next-generation consoles, Battlefield 4 looks to provide a greater depth of functionality than what Battlefield 3 brought to the Xbox 360 and PS3. In doing so, it appears that DICE is actually looking into the possibility of bringing support for the keyboard and mouse into the PS4 version of this title. (Battlefield 4, PS4)

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The_Infected  +   367d ago
Stupid idea. The game wouldn't be balanced then. Kb&m players would always win over controller players.
DoomeDx  +   367d ago
No way. As a PC gamer I can confirm that its almost pretty equal. While KB/M players will have to aim manually, console players get aim assist. When I play CS:GO on PC with a gamepad I can still hold out pretty good against KB/M players because of aim assist
NatureOfLogic  +   367d ago
Does the Xbone support m/k?
Tvensky  +   367d ago | Well said
You are completely wrong... I was a PC gamer.. and now I play consoles.. I turn off aim asist as it does lower my personal performance.. I was a counter strike player long long time ago.. I can say that the both mouse and controller have small advantages and disadvantages.. it really depends on how you are using it...

and as for BF4 and PS4, its a very great news, it should be an option in any FPS game..
LOL_WUT  +   367d ago
If DICE can implement support for KB&M on a next-gen console than so can the makers of ARMA make it happen ;)
oof46  +   367d ago
@DoomeDx: Despite all the disagrees, you are correct. With aim assist on, console players might be able to hold their ground.
HammadTheBeast  +   367d ago
Actually I can demolish people using my own controller while they have a KB/M. It just feels more natural and I can move and aim better.

What is necesarry for this feature to work is turn speed restrictions.
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cpayne93  +   367d ago
Aim assist is usually detrimental for me, I turn it off on all shooters I play online. I do a lot better than most other players too, the idea that console shooters NEED aim assist is untrue.
frostypants  +   367d ago
I'm all for it as long as I can choose to play on servers where KB+M are detected and banned. It DOES make a difference and one of the nice things about consoles is the level playing field.
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givemeshelter  +   367d ago
It's not equal. I have a StormCM gaming mouse and its just way more precise then a game controller for FPS games. It's not even close to be honest
Anarki  +   367d ago
Shove in cross platform games between PS4 and PC or XBONE and PC please
Muffins1223  +   367d ago
Keyboard rapes controller your not a pc gamer in fps lol
SaturdayNightBeaver  +   367d ago
U realize how faster i can turn with my mouse, check my corners and shit.. it cant be same even if you are pro.
SignifiedSix91  +   367d ago
Wrong. I whoop ass with a controller on the PC version of BF3 all the damn time. You people just exaggerate how "superior" the mouse and keyboard are.
inmusicutrust  +   367d ago
Goto your browser and click a link using a controller and using a mouse. I don't see how you could argue its just as easy using the controller and feel this is comprable to lining up a good shot. Not sure whether I want this feature or not, I'm definitely interested but we will see. Do not like aim assist though.
ScamperCamper  +   367d ago
To anyone suggesting that it's even close to being equal, sorry. I'm here to inform you so that you can go on from this point with a greater sense of enlightenment.

Keyboard and mouse is proven to be more accurate. I can't recall exact details, but Microsoft researched this issue and the results were clear. Keyboard and mouse mixed into console game is a "worst case scenario", "code red", "all hands on deck", situation for online gaming.

Trust me. You have to trust what a company like Microsoft finds as opposed to some random internet story or theory.
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starchild  +   367d ago
Just because some gamepad players adapt and can hold their own or even dominate other players using keyboard/mouse doesn't prove anything. It's anecdotal. Who's to say those exceptional players wouldn't be even better if they adapted to using a keyboard and mouse?

Across a range of players k&m has been shown to be more accurate than a gamepad.
KRUSSIDULL  +   367d ago
To whoever says controller is better than KB/M is a joke!

I prefer the controller but I tried to plug in my Xbox 360 controller in the PC and play BF3 with it and quess what there is no accuracy with it compared to KB/M and thats from someone who is a hardcore console player.
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Kingnichendrix  +   366d ago
Put it this way my mouse has zero latency and 2.4Ghz wireless with a 1m/s response time i can change its weight and shape its goes up to 6400 dpi, it has twin eye laser sensor that reads each axis separately for pinpoint accuracy and it can track up to a 6 meters per second. My keyboard also has a 1m/s response it has mechanical keys has anti ghosting and is designed for gaming and I also have a 360 controller and i can tell you now even if I play cod on pc with a controller very often i find myself at a disadvantage as compared to the KB/M configuration
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NewMonday  +   366d ago
K/M have better accuracy but very hard to master, it is impossible for some to get into, the controller is easier to understand and master. shooters like BF are mostly about decision making and not gun face offs, and solders are bullet sponges so the K/M advantage is reduced, but for a fast paced game like TitanFall where you can kill with one squeeze of the trigger it will be a different mater.
JsonHenry  +   366d ago
No offense Doom but you are dead wrong. The KB/M players demolish the gamepad players. Its been proven over and over again by gaming/tech sites as far back as 1996 when I first started browsing the net for gaming related news. Yes there are a rare few that are insane with a gamepad. But the vast majority of people are much better in accuracy when using a mouse.
abzdine  +   366d ago
just give me some Move controls awesomeness! it feel real and adds to the realism.
i've personaly never seen soldiers on the battlefield with K&M. All my respects to my friends PC gamers
maddfoxx  +   366d ago
I'm a console gamer and I know that aiming with a mouse is a lot more accurate and faster than aiming with a game pad. I remember playing Unreal 3 online for the PS3 and you could always tell which players were playing from a PC because they were super fast.
awi5951  +   366d ago
The fact is controllers cant hit crap without autoaim. Tell the controller people to turn raw input on when they are playing bF3 and see how well they do.
Veni Vidi Vici  +   366d ago
Sorry, it's been proven that KB+M players are so much more accurate AND faster at aiming that they destroyed controller players. MS did a study on it and it was a disaster. Even mediocre KB+M players were destroying controller players. MS had to cancel the plan.

http://www.techspot.com/new...
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Giru017  +   366d ago
@ScamperCamper (##1.1.14)
Yeah, like when Microsoft found out that players wouldn't mind an always online console, $499.99 price tag and massive DRM walls... Genius!
Nitrowolf2  +   367d ago
Um DUST 514, Counter-Strike, and a bunch of other titles support Kb&M and yet there really isn't huge advantage, if none at all.
RIP_Cell  +   367d ago
how do you kno there's isn't an advantage? do they tell you who's using Kb&Mouse?
SJPFTW  +   367d ago
I play console and PC. Mouse and Keyboard have a huge advantage even with controllers getting aim assist. Mouse is more precise and easier to aim with, compared to thumbsticks
frostypants  +   367d ago
If there were no advantage (which there absolutely IS) they wouldn't even bother offering it as an option. People want it because it is an advantage.
yeahokchief  +   367d ago
I could give a care less about this in relation to FPS games.

I'm excited because this paves the way for DotA2 coming to the PS4!!

Valve would have no excuses for denying us DotA2!
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BISHOP-BRASIL  +   367d ago
Actually every game on PS3 can be played through KB&M with adaptors, and there's plenty out there, you probably played with people using those thousands of times and never even realized, hence the point of having a huge difference is moot, if there were and it was favourable to KB&M everyone would readily notice and this adaptors would be even more popular, if the difference was much better to gamepad no one would use adaptors.

Of course in order to either control scheme to have any adavantage it depends more on how it's implemented than the controller itself. If either other method is tacked on it will be crap (like happens to gamepads in many PC games and KB&M on consoles through adaptors). When both are coded right, there's no such a thing as advantage, just personal preference.

And there's no point trying to argue which is better because we all can only know from personal experience and chances are no one master both at the same time, so even if you feel you are good enough with either, you'll probably still have a preference that have a lot more to do with ergonomics, muscle memory and out right nostalgia than with the theoretical best performance...

Let's make a little analogy here. I like to fish and I mostly use baitcasters, when I go with a spínning reel my performance drop is noticeable. That doesn't mean you can't do what I do or even better with a spinning reel, even if I can't keep up with my original performance, that's just because I had not trained with spinning tackle for years, it won't apply to people who use it every day, but likely those may have problems with baitcasters if they not apply themselves to it as much. Sure if we compare it, considering models with the same range of applications, you can argue that with spinning it's easier to achieve distance, casting smaller lures or go against the wind, while the baitcaster are lighter, faster/more practical to cast and easier to achieve precision, making it look like it depends on the exact situation, but actually people rarely change tackle thoughout similar applications, that's because you adapt to whichever is harder on your tackle and make up for the differences. So adaption beats technical differences.

So, to apply this analogy in gaming, I don't think te controller decides who win a match, it's who better mastered whichever controller one chooses or, when both mastered their controllers, it only depends on who is better at the game itself.
Veni Vidi Vici  +   366d ago
It all depends on the amount of aim assist. If there's a ton of aim assist, it will even out but for games with a normal amount of aim assist, KB+M players will destroy controller players. MS did a study on it.

http://www.techspot.com/new...
SatanSki  +   366d ago
@bishop-br Using those adaptors doesnt give you much adventage becouse you are still limited by the game which is not supporting true mouse input. You still turn only as fast as you would with the controller. Putting preferences aside, if controllers were as precise as mouse and keyboard you would see some people playing in CS tournaments with them.
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Veni Vidi Vici  +   366d ago
@bishop-br
Those KB+M adapters are NOT what you think they are. They aren't even close to what a M+KB are like on a PC. I've used them and they sucked. They require the use of a translator that changes the digital input from your M+KB and changes it to the analogue signal that the game is programmed to recognize from a controller. That translation gives a feel that isn't even close to the speed and accuracy of a KB+M on a PC.

The exception is for games that supported KB+M like in UT3. That support is in the programming so there's no translation going on and there isn't that "off" feeling that you get from translators in other games that don't support them. That's all due to the coding IN THE GAME- not through a translator. But even with the games that do support KB+M, they give you the option of only playing with KB+M players because there IS an advantage. If you don't believe me, just as MS. They did a study on it and it was a disaster for the controller players. I've already linked it twice in previous posts.
T2  +   366d ago
advantage or not, I love my rocketfish bluetooth kb/m for my ps3, and I will gladly use it for gaming on ps4... wish more titles had this support, would make RTS games bearable....
N311V  +   366d ago
I disagree, at least in relation to my experience with Dust 514. I'm not a PC gaming so I've never played an FPS with a KB&M however I kept hearing how much easier it was so I gave it a go. Granted movement with the keyboard felt awkward and I didn't like it but man shooting was so much more accurate. I was pulling off head shots left right and centre and snipping was a walk in the park.

I don't want to use a KB&M with a console so I was rather annoyed after I'd learnt first hand just how much easier aiming was. So much so I nearly stopped playing the game altogether. I didn't though but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy me when I'm killed by someone using KB&M (what I now know of as circle strafing is a dead giveaway).
Kanzes  +   367d ago
Honestly, both keyboard/mouse and controllers are equally good for fps games. It's just, you can easily chat (not VOIP) with your keyboard while playing.
andreasx  +   367d ago
@Kratos_Kills
not at all, you can become really good using the controller aswell. it all depends on what you like to play with the most.

OT= good for people who prefer M&K over the controller!
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OrangePowerz  +   367d ago
UT3 on PS3 supported keyboard and mouse and you had the choice to play only with people that controller or keyboard and mouse.
superterabyte  +   367d ago
dreamcast =D
Kingnichendrix  +   366d ago
You could also use pc mods in that game as well i really liked that game
Ray186  +   366d ago
And those rooms were ghost towns.
Megaton  +   367d ago
It's not as lopsided as people make it out to be. I've dominated matches in Far Cry 3 on PC with a controller. A person who plays really well with a controller will always school an average player who uses KB/M.
Jovanian  +   367d ago
you've got it backwards

a person who is average with the m/kb will always beat a person who is above average with the controller
Reverent  +   367d ago
@Swadian, just stop. I play Battlefield 3 on PC and I actually have a good number of friends that while I can usually score 1st through 5th place on my team using a kb/m, they often do much better than me (kd/r wise) using a controller.

An average guy with a machine gun won't hit a target as often as an experienced shooter using a bolt action rifle.
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grailly  +   367d ago
people tend to think that all there is to an FPS is pointing and clicking faster than your opponent. If that were the case FPS' would be really boring. placement is way more important than shooting straight imo, especially in battlefield where you can play 100% support if you want.
stone_cold  +   367d ago
I only need Dual Shock 4 not the f*cking Keyboard and Mouse
0pie  +   367d ago
@kratos_kills : Your tears are delicious.

I guess if they let player play with kb+m they will not play in the same matches as those who play with controler
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The_KELRaTH  +   367d ago
Very interesting if the PS4 can fully support keyb / mouse rather than the failed emulated version on PS3 as it could also mean introducing consoles to twitch fps games (UT, Q3a etc) and proper RTS like C&C, CoH, Starcraft etc
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thehitman  +   366d ago
UT already released on PS3 w/ mouse/kb support not sure what you mean by failed emulated version as there was full support just developers didnt allow it for the most part.
The_KELRaTH  +   366d ago
It had emulated mouse support as the PS3 doesn't have a mouse driver - it's not true free movement mouse support as seen on PC's Mac's etc.
The scroll / look rate was a set of fixed speeds and UT3 had to be slowed down considerably because of this.
A twitch fps game is extremely fast gameplay where your natural reactions take over.
KillerPwned  +   367d ago
Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3 had mods along with Keyboard and Mouse support...It worked wonders. Also Counter Strike: GO has the keyboard and mouse support. All seems well for both of those games.
The_KELRaTH  +   366d ago
But would work even better if there were proper mouse drivers so you weren't limited to preset scrolling speeds.
This was why UT3 movement on consoles was extremely slow compared to the PC version
Bathyj  +   367d ago
I said quite a while ago that PS4 should support all shooters with keyboard and mouse as it would be seen as difference maker between the 2 consoles even helping to sway PC gamers
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TAURUS-555  +   366d ago
i rather use my controller. KB/m feels awkwar
thehitman  +   366d ago
On UT3 for ps3 there was mouse/kb rooms where you could use that or a controller and I always found myself in the top 3 on K/D. The whole kb/m is better is all preference. Reason aim assist is on to appeal to the casual crowd who get owned by people who can actually play w/ controllers on a high level. That is why I stopped playing shooters on consoles because aim assist is gay and is handicapping gamers.
The_KELRaTH  +   366d ago
It's not a good comparison compared to a console / computer with proper controller for a mouse.
PS3 mouse = preset speeds like the controller
PC = no speed restriction so you are able to fully use hand, eye coordination which is why there's no need for aim assist.

If I didn't have the facility to use a mouse (no table etc) I'd use a trackball which works great.

I did enjoy UT3 on PS3 but it is about 50% slower than the PC version.
thehitman  +   366d ago
Ya your right they did slow it down some, BUT UT3 is an exception because the game is just incredibly fast paced there are not many games if any that are that fast even on PC and the console version is probably how average shooters today are on PC. I think its more on how people are used to the speed than whether people can keep up. Also in speed games like that I believe the controller gives you a movement advantage over the KB where the Mouse gives you an aim advantage so there are + and - on each side.
The_KELRaTH  +   366d ago
Yeah agreed thehitman, I'd really like to see a controller with a trackball built in (replacing the right joystick) just for looking around and aiming so you get the best of both :)
MysticStrummer  +   366d ago
I've seen interviews where developers say the KB/M advantage is a myth. The latest one was with the Planetside 2 devs as they talked about the reasons for not having PC/PS4 cross platform play.
3-4-5  +   366d ago
The difference isn't as much as you think.

Controllers have built in "centering" i guess you can call it with the snap back action of analog sticks....this can re-orient you to stay centered and focused on target.

Mouse is more accurate but is also harder to master because of the small touches and how much they can get you off target.

A good player will be good with either set up. Knowing the map and getting a jump on the enemy are just as important as aiming.
ABizzel1  +   366d ago
@Kratos_Kills

That's not true, there was a pro counterstrike global tournament, and the PS3 players smashed the PC players with Dual Shocks. It all depends on the skill of the users, and what you've become accustomed to.

For some people Keyboard and Mouse works best for them, while gamers who've been playing consoles for a decaed or more are going to have a natural affiliation with controllers. KB & M are better in theory, but practice and experience always prevail.

Now I also remembered there was an Xbox 360 game where PC and 360 players could play against one another, but the game was cancelled, but PC gamers were dominating every match.

So once again it comes down to experience. PC gamers have years more experience with FPS, but skill is what prevails.
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BallsEye  +   366d ago
Agreed. Very bad idea .Single player shooters I play on PC, I'm very good at aiming with mouse. Multiplayer shooters I preffer to play on consoles, because I like how heavy and realistic soldier feels and IMO is just stupid when you can headshot 10 people in 7 seconds from 1000 miles away using a pistol and doing 360 spin twice in that time. Also Tank controll on PC using a mouse is just ridiculous, you can spin the turret 720 degrees in less than a second (even faster if your sensitivity is high up). Playing battlefield 4 on console using a joypad vs people using mouses will ruin the game for me. Tank + mouse is like a cheat..
ATi_Elite  +   366d ago
The Glorious PC Gaming Master Race
I told consolers this was gonna happen about a year ago. Consoles are pretty much PC's now.

Oh and KB/m KILLS controllers even with aim assist.

KB/m + Peripheral view = FTW!!!!
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Maddens Raiders  +   367d ago
I say bring it on. Variety's the spice of life.
NatureOfLogic  +   367d ago
@ Nitrowolf2

I disagree. Switching from controller to m/k gave me a huge advantage over most in Dust 514. I won most one on two battles. The controller can't compete with the sensitivity of the mouse.
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HammadTheBeast  +   367d ago
That must've been before they gimped M/KB by putting in turn speed limitations.
frostypants  +   367d ago
That is a viable fix. It is garbage in FPS's when mouse users can do a 180 in a tenth of a second, and that's where the unfair advantage comes in.
Qrphe  +   367d ago
Hopefully all shooters attempt to implement this. Move controls would also be welcomed.
Plagasx  +   367d ago
This is great especially since the console versions will run at 60fps as well making KB/M perfect.
monkey48  +   367d ago
60fps battlefield on consoles?? No more call of duty for me.
Ashlen  +   367d ago
Sounds great to me. I have been wanting KB/M support on consoles for a long time.

And a cheap KB/M can be had for 10$ combined.
ExCest  +   367d ago
But a crappy mouse won't give you much of an advantage over a controller. An actual difference would only be seen with a gaming mouse. A crap mouse might even worsen your accuracy since the dpi is so low.
Ashlen  +   367d ago
That's not true at all. Even a cheap laser mouse is more accurate than a controller for the vast majority of people. Every controller ever made has to have a minimum of a 10% dead zone. Even the cheapest mouse has 0% dead zone

And "gaming" mice are pretty much a gimmick to charge $50-$100 for an item that cost $2-$15 to manufacture. Mostly the benefit of "gaming" mice is the number of buttons and macro support.
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ExCest  +   367d ago
Completely incorrect. You sir, have not used a gaming mouse then.

A cheap mouse will have a ton of jitter and that can and WILL hinder long distance "sniping" and accuracy. A gaming mouse (a simple 40 dollar one) will not only remove that deficiency but will last many more years then your cheap mice. Hell, this G9x that I'm using has been going strong for at least 6 years.

A cheap laser mouse is not more accurate than a controller. It's just faster to aim with it and that's dependent on the game settings itself since it has no dpi control.
Ashlen  +   367d ago
Jitter? I didn't say a broken mouse, I said a cheap mouse.
ChozenWoan  +   367d ago
I used to believe that a mouse is a mouse is a mouse, then I got my Logitech G600 mmo mouse. It's like night and day compared to the $10 bargain bin mouse I had. Coupled with my G13 keyboard, I wonder how I made it this long as a PC/console gamer. Knowing that I will be able to use them in more console games makes me even more satisfied with my hefty investment... mmm macros.
lol
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dredgewalker  +   366d ago
Good mouses really do make a big difference. Especially since you can adjust their dpi settings along with added buttons for shortcuts and macros. I own an a4 X7, even though it's not expensive it actually is a very dependable mouse and I've been using it for 2 years without having any issues. I paired it with an X7 keyboard and my gaming experience have improved a lot without putting a hole in my wallet. Anyways I still prefer mouse and keyboard combo for shooters and I'm really gonna be happy if the PS4 adds support to it.
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BallsEye  +   366d ago
You clearly didn't see tank controlls on mouse on PC. You can aim and spin your turret as fast as using a soldier. You can literally rotate so quick you will look like a daamn chopper. That's AN ADVANTAGE.
stevehyphen  +   366d ago
Sure, mice are different. Differences between mice are not as significant as differences between ability though. Back in the pro Counter-Strike 1.6 days a non-gaming mouse made by Microsoft was often referred to as one of, if not the best mouse for that game. Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 People were willing to pay far too much money for that thing on ebay after they weren't made anymore. Luckily Microsoft re-released the mouse to be had by all. The thing has like 200 or 400 dpi or something. All you need in my book.
BaconBits  +   367d ago
I think this is one big reason they have not supported it in the past. you could buy a nice KB/M for a fraction of the price of a controller and they would not see a dime. Not that the developer would personally really care I would think.
saint_seya  +   367d ago
I tried a lot of cheaps mouses, then the one im using #razer death adder# and theres a big difference on fps games.
Hazmat13  +   367d ago
it be nice, i recently into mouse and key bored gaming (half Life, CS:GO, TF2, Gmod) it is very smooth and accurate but i still love the good old controller. so this is a nice addition if some players want to expand there gaming experience.
elmaton98  +   367d ago
Haha keybored lol good one. Sorry I just couldn't resist
Gamesgbkiller  +   367d ago
balanced or not.

There are a lot of people using controllers on PC.

So why not K&M on consoles ?
BattleAxe  +   367d ago
As they add more PC functionality to the PS4, its almost a better idea to just be a PC gamer. Far cheaper games, controller support on most games and no subscription fees.
Bruce_Wayne  +   367d ago
Either way, PC will never have the console exclusives, cheaper price, nor split-screen capability on games that are fun with it.
Ragthorn  +   367d ago
And that is why I role PC/PS Gamer!!! No Hassles what so ever, got the exclusives and split-screen of Consoles, and the overall better experience imho on PC (cheaper games, gamepad support, and other features).
Off Topic: People who have a strong enough PC should give Guild Wars 2 a go, amazing MMORPG, and ALOT of bang for your buck! Remember Guild Wars 2 is a CPU Intensive game, you still need a good gpu to run it, but you wil need a real good cpu to run it cuz of the amount of things to process (cuz its an MMORPG, a lot of things on screen).
Bruce_Wayne  +   367d ago
@Ragthorn

Well cool. You get the best out of both worlds buddy!
zebramocha  +   367d ago
That doesn't make sense as the money spent on hardware is never fully use like the tech demos and both console are the baseline for next gen so there shouldn't be anymore excuses that console gaming is holding pc back.
Concertoine  +   367d ago
ah just like the dreamcast had k&m
been waiting for this, now pc-oriented games could come to ps4 that would simply be too complex for a controller
Npugz7  +   367d ago
Stupid!! Leave the mouse and keyboard for the PC!!!
Reborn  +   367d ago
How is offering an optional choice, which may make the game experience better...stupid?

It's a good move, to have it as an option.
JunioRS101  +   367d ago
I agree that it is good to have options, and I'm happy to hear about KB/M compatibility on PS4, but I think the general opposing argument would be that because KB/M combos are advantageous, and since this IS on a console after all (meaning worst case scenario assume the opposing arguer does not have a KB/M to match your advantage) maybe they think that everyone should HAVE to use a controller, kinda like a "no cheating" mentality. At least that's my take on things
dredgewalker  +   366d ago
Mouse and keyboards are much cheaper than controllers and almost everyone has a pc so having a mouse and keyboard is not a real issue.
JunioRS101  +   367d ago
You're all nuts if you think KB/M controls aren't way more accurate than controller. BF3 for example. I owned both the Xbox 360 version and PC version, and I can say from experience, using the mouse is literally so acute and tactile when it comes to snapping your crosshairs over to an opponent or even spinning 180' degrees to catch the guy behind you sneakin up. I do like the fact that we have the option of both on PS4 though, I'm not sure which one I'll use... the KB/M combo might not be worth the inconvenience of all the extra wires. I like controllers because they're quick to pick up and simple to set back down when you're finished gaming.
Dark_king  +   367d ago
I have no wires for my KB/M for my ps3. Bluetooth is lovely.
JunioRS101  +   367d ago
Ooo nice, but it is technically (at least I think) slower to do wireless, in the sense of latency. And I'm obsessive about that stuff so I had to have wires
MidnytRain  +   367d ago
above

That reminds me: Isn't it better to have an ethernet cable than go wireless as far as latency and speed is concerned?
Wni0  +   367d ago
Kb and mouse is way better its not even funny, but i like controllers more - Immersion goes right out of window when you just strafe lef and right.
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pyramidshead  +   367d ago
This is going to make quite a lot of people happy I feel ;o
RE_L_MAYER  +   367d ago
I got a split fish frag fx mouse for ps3 and kind of controller for movement you only hold in left hand, batllefield plays weird but still fun, there is a better splitfish witch is preety much a controller split into two and you hold each piece in each hand
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BaconBits  +   367d ago
This kind of set up I like on BF3 for pc. I use the controller for movement and the mouse for aiming/shooting and a few other things. for me strafing and moving feels weird with just the keyboard.
fermcr  +   367d ago
Thank You.
fingazblank  +   367d ago
These consoles are essentially pc's why not support mouse and keyboard, this is very interesting and im quite excited at the prospect. I remember playing quake on the dreamcast with a mouse and keyboard awkward as it was it was more fun.

Im a pc gamer and a 360 gamer, K/B m is the better combo though, that first aim means everything and for me its not as quick on the 360.
porter470  +   367d ago
why not have cross platform play with the pc and ps4?
blacktiger  +   367d ago
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This would be insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it. I have PS3 and I only buy FPS game, but with Mouse and Keyboard it's going to be unstopable!
UNGR  +   367d ago
They're not going to have mouse and keyboard for one and not the other, that really wouldn't fly well with a lot of fans.
Dark_king  +   367d ago
They wouldn't be the first Unreal Tournament 3 did it on ps3.
UNGR  +   367d ago
With Microsoft having the early DLC on Xbox? It's doubtful only one would, they'll both get it.
Dark_king  +   367d ago
I don't think MS would allow KB/M on the Xbox 360 games.Will have to see if they will allow them on there next system. Wouldn't count on it though.
SpideySpeakz  +   366d ago
Who cares about Xbone...
UNGR  +   366d ago
Everyone buying it, the investors, and the company that made it, obviously. Is it bad that all gamers should be treated equal? Why should one platform get Mouse/keyboard support and the other shouldn't? Total BS.
SpideySpeakz  +   366d ago
Until I see Titanfall on the PS4, then we'll talk about 'equality'.. But for now, don't give me the "level the playing field" liberal talk.
netcutter  +   367d ago
Thank goodness its about time. This gives players options. I am an old PC gamer that is trying to switch over to console and am not even close to competitive with the controller.

Also most in my shoes already use a XIM to play with mouse and keyboard for FPS games on console so this is already happening.
Lwhit6  +   367d ago
Better bring a playlist of only keyboard players along with it then. I'm not gonna go up against a mouse fire rate.
Xsilvermist  +   367d ago
Well the Bf4 devs did say that Ps4 controller is the best for next gen so im pretty sure they are goona be not that different in terms of accuracy but ony time will tell
Jovanian  +   367d ago
well thats sorta good...mouse and keyboard is the single best input method for FPS games period.

though people using controllers are likely to get slaughtered. No amount of aim assist can give the controller the ability to go toe-to-toe with a mouse and keyboard for an FPS game.
InTheZoneAC  +   367d ago
that's the problem, aim assist

that's bad for gaming period
mkotechno  +   367d ago
If there is people playing racing games online with steering wheel mixed with pad people... I think there is no problem mixing pad and mouse people in fps aswell.

You are owned by a mouse guy... then play with a mouse too or STFU, exacty the same than if someone beat you in Gran Turismo with a G27.
cunnilumpkin  +   367d ago
besides being far superior in aiming, the MAIN advantage of m/kb is the ability to turn 180 degrees in a nanosecond versus the tugboat like turnaround that controllers do

it literally feels like turning around in a tub of jello compared to the fluid split second it takes on kb/m

many studies/experiments have been done, mouse and keyboards destroy players with controller.

""There was a project that got killed at Microsoft. This project was designed to allow console gamers and PC gamers to interact and battle over a connected environment," Sood wrote on his personal blog. "I've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their 'console' controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse."

The results shouldn't be too surprising.

"The console players got destroyed every time," Sood added. "So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative. "
theEx1Le  +   366d ago
The speed turning isn't really an issue if you are good with sensitivity. The higher it is the quicker the turn speed. Using a dualshock on PC doesn't leave me at a disadvantage, granted I'm fairly decent with a KB/M setup too so if i start to struggle i switch on the fly.
AnimeAvenger  +   367d ago
Stupid idea, it will give mouse and keyboard an advantage over people who play with controllers. 360 supports keyboards, but there's a reason why you can't use it for gaming.
BaconBits  +   367d ago
as long as there is separation. like servers for KB/M, controllers and maybe some for both. I prefer Mouse and controller combo since I have always been a console FPS player.
dcj0524  +   367d ago
Simple: limit the sensitivity that KB&M players use. I use KB&M on CS:GO. No balance issues but imo playing counter strike with a controller is just terrible. Any other fps is fine but something about that game makes my controller crap. Anyway limit sensitivity so they can't do a instant 180 headshot TRIPLE KILL.
Obamanationn  +   367d ago
cs go supports KBM on ps3 ?!?
InTheZoneAC  +   367d ago
i cannot wait to own kb&m elitists with my controller

anyone can point and click click click
MidnytRain  +   367d ago
If anyone can point and click, click, click you're gonna have a hard time playing experienced kb/m players, lol.
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InTheZoneAC  +   366d ago
can't wait...
CalamityCB  +   366d ago
You are going to get destroyed lol, there have been experiments which pitted hardcore console players against mediocre PC players, the PC players destroyed them; Microsoft tested this.
InTheZoneAC  +   366d ago
k...

when it comes out, then we can play.
Smoey  +   359d ago
I use my Gamepad on my PC for COD/BF sometimes and I generally beat most people. I think the KB/M > Gamepad argument is flawed.
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