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The Xbox One wasn't ready for this generation

Did the Xbox One jump the shark on purpose? Or was it trying to pull something more creative out of its hat?

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Hufandpuf3955d ago

I don't think the gaming world were ready because we are not technically on that level yet. There are still some people out there with unreliable internet and a vast majority with no internet at all. Connecting everyone together is an amazing idea, but one that isn't ready for us yet. I would've liked to see what MS would do with their ideas, but they were slammed to the ground before it could take off because of the consumer's fear and the companies obligation to provide for the consumer.

Soldierone3954d ago

Its not broken. They patched it out, but then went "well games will still do it."

Instead of saying its always online, they say "games use the cloud," now. Just look at anything they talk about.

I think Microsoft would have been smarter to ease into it. Make this available, but not 100 percent yet. Let people see the ease of use and then go "okay a majority of you like it, our next update makes it standard."

Hufandpuf3954d ago

"Instead of saying its always online, they say "games use the cloud," now. Just look at anything they talk about."

Well, yeah because MS pitched the DRM to the publishers, so of course the devs would produce games according to the Console policy. But now that the DRM is gone, I hope the devs don't get lazy and refuse to take advantage of the cloud's benefits to maximize profit return.

komp3954d ago

Folks have to look at the unique features and contemplate the value of the features vs cost involved.

From a gamer perspective all I care about is the games.
, the rest I already have at a press of a remote button.

PsychOff3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

"consumer's fear and the companies obligation to provide for the consumer."

Yea I will just stop you there. Especially the consumer part, Microsoft didn't change their stance because people complained.. They changed their policies because they saw how many people weren't going to purchase this Xbox One.

Every poll there was the margins weren't even funny how piss poor they were for the Xbox One.

People complained about the Xbox One's policies before it was even released we knew about it all. Microsoft had plenty of time to cater to the consumer then, they also had plenty of time in between that even after it was announced but they held their ground until they saw first hand themselves how poorly it could sell with these policies.

Being afraid of something is one thing, standing up for what you know is right is a complete different situation. People weren't afraid of Microsoft, they simply weren't going to buy Microsoft's Xbox One and that is why they changed their policy. Not to appeal to consumers but to make sure they can secure our cash..

I am not trying to say who is the best or what but Sony busts their balls for the consumer, even when it is their own mistake, they really don't even have to give anyone shit but they will anyway. Even when they are at their all time low, they still give and give.

If Microsoft was ever in that position I can promise you that it would be far from giving. They only give for their own benefit. Again there is a difference between someone who is sincerely giving with no expectations in return other than good will, versus giving and expecting something out of it.

Microsoft gives and expects, hence why they gave up on their policies and now expect everyone to jump back on the Xbox One ship. They didn't do it out of kindness or to better their name, they did it purely to save their asses.

Hufandpuf3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

This is hard to put in words but I'll try my best.

MS reacting to low X1 sales (Which aren't low) IS also a reaction to consumer complaints. The reason they changed the policy is because of the complaints they were getting not sales. If they wanted to sell more consoles couldn't they just simply lower the price? Instead they just changed the features that the consumers had problems with. Also Selling tons of units was not an issue for MS, every console has a relatively successful launch. But if the stigma of the product is negative from the jump, it'd be harder for MS to sell more units down the line and turn a profit. So I think MS's move was a decision to ensure profit in the long run.

Think about it: The problems people had were fixed and now since MS removed features, it's more profit they gain instead of lose. So even though gamers think it's only a win for them it's also a win for MS because they can be seen as a listening corp. and save money and make money in the process.

Soldierone3954d ago

The cloud is the DRM though.

Sure games are not 100 percent digital now, but that will come back down the road and we will get those sharing features back.

However it will be hard to steal a game that needs the cloud to function. Thats why software developers like Adobe are turning to cloud features. You can lock the disc or put in codes, but those always get broken. Having to connect to a cloud to use the software though has new barriers that will take time to break.

HugoDrax3954d ago

Exactly! students and professionals alike have used and continue to use pirated Autodesk, Adobe, Ms Office software due to the extreme price points.

Eventually, all games will be digital and DRM will return. My thoughts exactly when Adobe announced their design suite would only be accessible through the cloud lol. Soon games will only be accessible in this manner, aka Gaikai.

I still would like to see sharing features amongst XB1 digital downloaded titles, as I would always download my titles instead of running to the local GameStop to purchase a physical copy. People tend to forget that disc can get damaged and have to be replaced. Wouldn't have that concern if we had access to our game library digitally similar to steam service.

AngelicIceDiamond3954d ago

"The Xbox One wasn't ready for this generation."

If it wasn't before then it is now.

slivery3954d ago

Had nothing to do with previous sales. They knew it wasn't going to sell like they hoped so they changed their policy. What is hard to understand that it had nothing to do with our complaints really. We pointed out our problems with the system before it was even released and what did we get from Microsoft?

"Deal with it!"

Now all the sudden that it turned out to be the worst console reveal in history upsetting probably millions of its own fan base alone. Not even being able to compete with the Wii U in terms of appeal which is in a pretty bad spot right now itself as well.

They want to change their policy? I wonder why. Yes I am so sure it was because of our complaints that existed long before it was even announced. I respect you looking on the bright side but sometimes you have to see reality for what it really is and that is the reality of it.

sensor213954d ago

Whats interesting is the ps4 was suppose tohave 4gb of ram but they heard what microsoft was doing not ready tho?

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Kingthrash3603955d ago

imo strictly imo.....the whole drm thing was to win over devs and get more exclusives. piracy is a problem to devs and this was a way to kill the problem and make money in one stroke. the problem was console gamers like freedom and these new policies were too restricting. and like the vid says the internet isnt stable enough to rely on...so yeah greed, restrictions, unreliable service, ads = unhappy consumer that= no profits

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badvlad3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

i hate these youtube narrators so lame, didnt even look at the video but i guess

Rhythmattic3954d ago

The Xbox One wasn't ready for this generation "of new casual gamers"

The core is really where its at for a GAMING console...and the core made them listen.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7216h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle3h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188130m ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio14m ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga2h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21831h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga49m ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1015h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos5h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac4h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1013h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 12h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 10h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies22h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 10h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic20h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9019h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 12h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 10h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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