PS4: The One Feature That Nobody Seems To Be Talking About

"Sony seems to be taking the initial lead over Microsoft’s next generation console by doing the right things. They have shown us the games they have been working on and the technology they will be using to power them up on the PlayStation 4."

[Pandamobile]

This is one of my biggest problems with my PS3. I don't often play games on it, but when I do, I'm forced to sit through gigabytes of patches that usually take longer to download and install than I planned on playing the game for in the first place...

Sony really needs to get their shit together with their servers for the PS4. A 2 GB update should not take 35 minutes when I can get an update of the same size off of Steam or Origin in 10.

[SpinalRemains]

Agreed. It gets pretty annoying when I open my orange envelope to play through a new game, and the first thing I must do is DL and install the latest update.

Initially, the patches were there, but nowhere near the extent which they now are available. While game patches are obviously a good thing, it makes one wonder.....why is such a newly realeased game forced to have so many patches? Do not games release they way they're supposed to anymore?

In a rush to get games to the consumer, they release games with problems. I love gaming and I will continue doing so, but the system in place should definitely be made better.

I do love the setting of the auto updates when I'm not on the system, but this doesn't apply to new games that my system doesn't recognize. Perhaps if we could check for updates on games which we know we're going to put into the dics tray for future, we could save some time? That would be cool.

What also gets me is the digital DL of games. Why is it that I DL a digital game, and yet I still have to DL the update separately? Should not the update or patch already be placed to the game itself? Why is the additional DL passed onto the player? Seems counterintuitive to me. Just do it once on your end so that every player need not do that. Yes I understand the cost efficiency and the finances involved, but the thing is, in a comepetative market, you need to throw the gamer a bone now and again to make your console more appealing due to convenience. How much money or much a problem could it really be to reinstall the digital game on the server with all of its current updates? It only makes practical sense to save every gamer 5 minutes in the long run.

[TKCMuzzer]

Yep, devs and publishers need to sort this out, selling us unfinished games has really become far to common place this gen.

Someone disagrees, interesting, you like buying unfinished games?.......

[SecondSon]

What I think TKCMuzzer is trying to say is that unlike the PS2 era this time around developers are not required to polish up the game 100% before releasing because they can always patch it last minute.

It is true that pretty often we have to download updates on day one or in the first few weeks to fix problems that would have normally been ironed out prior to the release of the game through extensive beta testing.

Its a double ended sword but at least with this chip we will be able to update while we game so it won't be much of an inconvenience unless its a mandatory update in which case you could always play another game while you wait.

[Dee_91]

Thats BS.
Most ps2 ps1 era games were riddled with glitches, not to mention the advancements in graphics and physics in current gen games are accompanied with tech harder to work with, so its completely unfair to compare last gen games to current gen games regarding being finished or unfinished.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

The problem is that neither interal Alpha or Beta testing got any shorter, they seen to be the same they were one generation before, but as those games grew in complexity, they become more prone to have problems. So there's two solutions, patches early on or add testing time, both costs money to add on top of the increasing costs of development, but only extra time delay the game going gold, which means it takes more time to start making some back. I don't think it makes much difference for developers, but for publsihers (always wanting more money in less time) it's the best strategy... As long as gamers keep buying "broken" games, that is. If we're voting with our wallets they would think again if it's not better to spend a little more time.

In my opinion publishers had gone really out of touch with us costumers trhoughout this gen. The price of development growing is real, but they keep making the wrong decisions about how they'll deal with that... They need (and want) more money, but instead of trying to attract more people where it matter (price), they either go for non-gamers (risky move as you are aiming at a demograph that's not necessarily interested and may as well piss of gamers already interested in the process) or try to suck more money from the few already interested (not only they raised the price of games from past gen to current, they added DLC, Online Passes, Season/Premium/Elite services, microtransactions, etc).

Had they gone the other way and made games cheaper maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation, as attach rate would probabbly much higher. Sure current gen consoles also didn't help by starting at a higher price, but this next gen looks like it's not going to be the problem to attract more early adopters (or more gamers down the road), so I think the heat is on publishers now. Imagine if they call prices back down to 50 bucks, maybe they could afford to take their time and deliver complete games knowing more people will buy.

[denawayne]

All this complaining about patching a game on PS3 by ways of being online but the same idiots are complaining about XBOne being always online. So isn't your PS3 always online?

[Zeniix]

That's why Bioshock Infinite did such a good job, they delayed the game several times to try & completely finish the game.

[Hoffmann]

TKCMuzzer + 19h ago | Well said
Yep, devs and publishers need to sort this out, selling us unfinished games has really become far to common place this gen.

Someone disagrees, interesting, you like buying unfinished games?..

Those guys who disagreed there are developers who have to work for publishers like EA, Ubisoft etc ;-)

[xHeavYx]

I used to have a 1 MB connection,I never had issues with patches or system updates, just turn it on and do something instead of stare at the TV the whole time. Now the PS3 even updates everything automatically for you (if you have PS+ I believe) so I don't see how the patch stuff is still an issue.

[SpinalRemains]

I have a top notch data connection and I am not so impatient that it turns me off, but it is uneccessary. That's what I'm saying.

Auto updates do not address the patches for a game which you haven't put in yet. If your console does not have game install data on it, you have no patch to automatically DL.

New games which you have just opened up to play and introduce to your console, has an update 90% of the time. How exactly does auto updates affect that? They don't. They only apply to system firmware or existing games which you've already played or introduced to your HDD.

What I'm suggesting is this.......
- Say you're going to buy Black Ops on payday. It's currently Wed. and you get paid on Friday. You know the game will be in your console on that Friday. Why can't we search for newest Black Ops updates on the Wed. so that it's already installed for Friday, because we all know that when we put the game in, it's going to be there waiting for us to install it. This way we can DL without waiting a few minutes before we first play it.

[SecondSon]

It will still offload some of the workload from the main CPU which can be used fully for gaming.

Having an extra chip in there for background processes is a plus in my book.

[nugnugs]

Just need to nip in somewhere and point out that SecondSon's comment "It's a double ended sword" is flawed as he/she has confused a double 'edged' sword with a double 'ended' dildo.
I'm a pedant.

[YoungKingDoran]

@nugnugs
best single comment on this page

[jcnba28]

Agreed. Every time I turn on my ps3 to play a game I'm greeted with "A new system update is available to download" and it sometimes puts me off wanting to play the game anymore.

[TKCMuzzer]

You get a system update every-time you play a game on your PS3, what firmware are you up to?

[andibandit]

@TKCMuzzer

Believe it or not, but some of us have jobs, family, friends, hobbies, other interests, and so on....

[BlackTar187]

So a 15 minute update because you play one game every 3months is off putting? Wow.

i have a job a family friends and a new baby. I still have enough time to do this. Come on now not wanting to play a game because of patches is the most overreaching exaggeration ever.

[TKCMuzzer]

@Pandamobile
I have no problem with the speed of downloads whether it be patches, demo's or full games on my PS3. I've heard people complain before but to me its never been an issue, mine does 1.5 gig in 7 mins (I timed it), now to me that seems pretty good.

I did compare this to my 360 and surprise surprise.......there was no difference. Maybe it's to do with your IP, or where your based, who knows.

One note, I have PS+ so pretty much everything is already done when my PS3 is turned on.

[BLow]

Haha, I guess someone else was timing your download speed going by the disagrees.

[nnodley]

Same here. I've never had problems with downloads. Only when I had a shitty ISP and was getting lower than 1MBPS. We get 11 or 12 now and I can download a 1.5 gb DL in about 15-30 minutes. I'm pretty patient with downloads so that could be a reason too.

[Bounkass]

You're no forced to do anything. You can just skip them.

[Pandamobile]

If I skip the update it persistently bugs me when I'm playing the game.

I'd be playing All Stars with my friends and then the update prompt would appear, and someone would hit X by accident (because we're trying play a damn game) and then it would close the game and start the stupid update.

I don't consider that "Being able to skip" if it feels it needs to bug me about it every 5 minutes.

[jagstatboy]

"I don't often play games on it"

Then why on earth do you have a PS3.

[Pandamobile]

Netflix and Blu rays, obviously.

[DragonKnight]

I always see people saying stuff like "constant patches" and "takes so long to download" but that literally has not happened to me. Well, the slow downloads did when the patches first came out because of traffic, but I've never had "constant patches" or consistently slow downloads. Are you sure it's not your ISP?

[BLow]

Yeah, I used to think the downloads were slow until (ding dong) I realized I was using the wireless feature. When I hooked it up straight from my router, it was like night and day difference. Don't use wireless for downloads. Plus, most patches are less than 50mb anyways and download pretty quick. I just hate that it doesn't download and install at the same time. With the PS4, this issue seems have to been solved and people can stop bitching.

Literally all the things that were negative about the PS3 has seemed to be fixed with the PS4. That's a good thing right?

[DragonKnight]

I have to use wireless myself because my PS3 is in my room and my modem is in the living room so it's either wireless or a really long ethernet cable. Wireless definitely does slow things down though.

"Literally all the things that were negative about the PS3 has seemed to be fixed with the PS4. That's a good thing right?"

Definitely.

[T2]

dragonknight - just go with the really long ethernet cable... you will thank me later lol... always go wired in.

[R3DRAIN89]

use the ps plus automatic update feature,it helps.

[Pandamobile]

I don't want to pay for an auto-update feature...

[IcicleTrepan]

@Pandamobile it's funny because I thought the same thing, and I guess I'm used to Xbox because the system auto updates whether or not you have Xbox Live Gold. If MS can do it for free, surely Sony also can.

[kneon]

If PSN is slow blame your ISP, I have 100Mb/s internet and PSN is as fast or faster than any other download service.

[Pandamobile]

PSN is slow because PSN is slow. My ISP is fine. I have 30 Mbps internet, so my download speeds are usually 3-4 MB/s on Steam, uTorrent and pretty much everything else I use.

PSN doesn't even let me know the speeds at which it's downloading. Just a vague progress bar that takes way longer than it should.

[kneon]

I typically get 5-8MB/s for PSN downloads. I just downloaded 956MB in 2:32, which is typical for me.

So it's not PSN that's slow, if it were it would be slow for everyone.

[Utalkin2me]

I downloaded Crysis 3 in less then 20 mins. I haven't had any problems downloading movies or anything.

[VonBraunschweigg]

PSN is not the fastest, but upgrading your internetsub does help a lot. I went from 30 to 80 Mb/s and downloading is now faster than installing. The XMB speedtest (wired) says 29 or 30 Mb/s, but when downloading an update it's more like 10 Mb/s, where it used to be 2 or 3.

[UNGR]

That's a lie, any laptop out of Best Buy could download faster from better hardware alone. "PSN is as fast or faster than any other download service." Why can't bubble down for blatantly lying be an option? The crap that people will say on the internet is insane.

[kneon]

@UNGR

It might be a lie if you said it but it works fast for me.

[kneon]

Just to see how Steam is running at the moment I did a 1.7gb download and was averaging about 5.5MB/s with a peak of 8MB/s.

According to Speedtest my connection speed was over 92MB/s and I'm using an i7 950 connected via gigabit Ethernet directly to my cable modem, so the source of any slowness is not at my end.

So today, right now for me PSN is as fast or faster than the much vaunted Steam.

[Pandamobile]

5-8 MB/s is a pretty quick download. You have to remember that MB/s is not the same as Mb/s. Speedtest will display your results in megabits per second, but most real-world downloads will display speeds in megabytes per second. 8 MB/s is roughly 64 Mb/s.

So in that case, it's probably Steam that's slower than your internet (because 100 Mbps internet is insanely fast for what 99% of people in North America are used to). For me, I tend to max out my allotted bandwidth when I download stuff off Steam because I'm only at 30 Mb/s, which Steam can easily keep up with.

Yet on PSN, I'm lucky to get half the speed I do on Steam. Either the servers they have me connected to are thousands of miles away, or they just can't handle the amount of users they have.

[UnHoly_One]

Wow... Amazing... You said something a tiny bit negative about the PS3 and got 60+ disagrees for it. Go figure... ~eyeroll~

Anyway, you are 100% correct. I'm glad to see somebody else has noticed how terrible the PS3 is with patches, and just with download speed in general.

I played LBP2 for the first time over the weekend, and it took about 40 minutes until the patches were all completed. The longest update I think I've ever had for a 360 game took me about 20 seconds.

For those of you who wonder why people are willing to pay for Xbox LIVE, this is an example of a very good reason.

[Utalkin2me]

Look at my below comment. PS plus is where it is at.

[ddurand1]

I do agree with your sentiment here.

I tried to bring GT5 to a friends house with my wheel and we had so many updates to download on his console that we were unwilling to sit through them to play.

I couldve brought my ps3 over, sure, but it kinda hurts the experience.

[Utalkin2me]

@Pandamobile

Other then BF3, which games have gigabyte patches? I am a PS plus subscriber and ever since then i have not had to sit and wait for a single patch. Love the auto download for plus subscribers.

[UnHoly_One]

You're not wrong, ps+ can eliminate a lot of these wait times, no doubt.

The problem comes when you've never played a game before, so ps+ doesn't download patches for it in advance.

Like my previous example. I played LBP2 for the first time ever the past weekend. I'm a new plus subscriber (based on all the rave reviews I've read about it on this site, mostly), and I'd played the original LBP, but never bothered with the sequel.

Well, I fired it up this weekend, and had to sit through 40 minutes of unskippable updates before I could play. That kind of shit is inexcusable in this day and age, and is one of the main reasons the 360 was my dominant console this gen.

So say all you want about ps+, I think it is a fantastic service for the right kind of person, but for somebody like me that normally buys games new at launch anyway, it doesn't hold much value.

Then something like this comes along where I try to play a "free" game from ps+ that I had skipped at launch. And I have to sit through 40 minutes of updates first, and I'm reminded why Xbox Live rules the roost when it comes to console games online.

Now, I realize that this is N4G and since I'm not kissing Sony ass in this post, I'll probably get 50 or 100 disagrees, but that's just the way it is.

But also, I'm not an Xbox fanboy, and I don't love what MS has shown me about the One, and I have to be fair here, Sony hasn't shown me anything that has made me jump out of my seat either.

Without a doubt, and contrary to most people on this site, I'll end up buying both consoles. And I'll decide which is my primary based on a number of things, not the least of which will be the controller, which MS already leads by a TON over the shitty (my left stick is in the wrong place) Dualshock.

I know I'm going to get attacked for this post, and to be perfectly honest, I don't care. People on this site need to lighten up and get with the 21st century. It's ridiculous how biased people are on this site.

[BitbyDeath]

PSN is slower because PS3 doesn't support wireless n.
PS4 however does, have a quick read of this article as it touches on that point.

http://www.shacknews.com/ar...

[thechosenone]

Like that wasn't already been covered at the reveal back in Feb.

And if you want a speedier download then don't select the option 'download in background' and see how much quicker you get those updates.

[PurpHerbison]

It took over half a day to download all the free games from PS+ when I first signed up.

[UNGR]

I agree it can be improved, but were talking old tech here. Your computer is better in probably every way, minus a Blu-Ray player. It's like complaining that my 1986 Chevrolet Caprice doesn't go as fast as my Ferrari. The reason nobody is talking about this is because it's natural progression, I expected this in the next generation of consoles, and both of them did.

[Holeran]

Hmm.. A 2 gig downloaded update for me on PS3 takes about 5-8 minutes on average at best. I don't know if it is something in the way you have your router set or not but my speed tests run about 40mbps download and 9 mbps upload on my computer and my PS3 is set as the primary through my router.

[NumOnePS3FanBoy]

Mother of internet gods you probably have one of the shittiest internet connections. The only time firmware updates take long are when they are major firmware updates. Seems to me that, because you don't play teh gamez on your ps3 at all, you let your ps3 gain dust and newer firmware updates have been available, therefore taking you longer because you are on say for ex: on 3.0 and update to the latest version. That will take a long time for obvious reasons. And seriously who the hell buys a ps3 not to play games when it's the only console on the market that caters to the core? You probably don't own one or you're one of those COD people who think they're gamers.

[nukeitall]

People keep saying Xbox Live Gold isn't worth it, but here is one example of how awesome it is.

On Xbox 360, MS limits the patch size so you don't have to sit around and a wait long time. Furthermore, they alleviate the wait time by allowing hot patching.

What does that "hot patching" mean? It means, the game isn't stopped and rebooted. It means as soon as the download is complete it continues as if nothing ever happened. Xbox Live just signs you out and in, and bam you can play!

The process is:

a) insert games and start

b) game checks if you have an update

c) assuming there is one you get asked if you want to update

d) you say yes, and the download starts while the game is running through the stupid logo screens and intros.

e) the patch is downloaded, XBL signs you out and in, while the game is going through the start screens. Notice XBL doesn't apply the patch, it just literally signs you out and in and you are ready!

f) bam play!!!

This usually takes about a minute. A lot of times, the logo screens and intro takes far longer as I'm still stairing at it after the update is done.

In short, this is essentially a feature Xbox 360 didn't even have, let alone wait for next generation. MS already solved it with current generation.

This is why download sizes are limited, because it inconveniences the consumer. MS would rather inconvenience the developer so the user experience is as good as it can be.

[Animal Mutha 76]

@panda

Agree mate. I wanted to play GT5 a few weeks ago for the first time in just over a year for an hour or so before I went out for the evening.. Granted that's a long time to have not played the game but I had to wait for the game to dl at least 13 updates. The first was over a gig and the rest were 250mb or so. It took so long I didn't get to play the game before I needed to go out so I left my PS3 running and it had finished when I got home.

I know most games don't need that kind of number of patches but it was so painful to watch the system being so slow. Download, install, dl, install, dl, install ages, ages ages.

The xbl servers and patching system is so much more considered and well implemented. I hope PS4 has a better infrastructure system especially if they charge a fee which I think they will.

Oh and I live in UK and have 10meg broadband before anyone blames my net.

[fr0sty]

I can't believe this article got so popular, considering it's one feature that Xbox One also has. It's not like this gives PS4 any kind of advantage. There are many other features that do give it an edge that I think are more important. You know, like not requiring a camera to spy on you and that sort of thing.

[Drekken]

I have no idea how you have so many disagrees. Turn on your playstation to lets say play GT5. Well if you haven't played your PS3 in a while... 20minutes to get the firmware. Then you insert your game... GT5 has humongous patches... Maybe a 3 hour wait if you are lucky. My PC rips through patches like they are a joke compared to the PS3. Hopefully this is solved with the PS4.

[malokevi]

My Xbox360 updates take a matter of minutes. When I go to my friends house and play PS3, we will sit there, often for in excess of an hour, waiting for an update to come down.

I usually sit there and make snide remarks like: ''ya know, if you had an Xbox...''

;)

[Persistantthug]

But that's how fast I download everything on the internet.

My internet speeds are only 400KB, unfortunately. :(

[Bobby Kotex]

Get a life?

[PigPen]

The touch screen, am I right. Let me go read the article.

[Majin-vegeta]

Err wrong you are the weakest link :P.

@Below if they have no money how are they still in business??Talk about stupidity.

[PigPen]

Sony has junk status rating and no money, it's the weakest link.

[PigPen]

They are barely in business. Get it right num-nuts.

[jcnba28]

They are still in business because their other devisions are what's keeping them afloat.

[Infamouskat]

It's an awesome feature, but there is nothing to really talk about regarding that matter, it's just seems like something that's just there (NOT saying it sucks!). It's awesome that you can play your game while it's downloading though! I think the feature nobody talks about is the touch pad. Everyone has been ignoring it, but I think it could be put to good use with puzzles and stuff.

[KillrateOmega]

Yes!

I remember some of the bigger downloads that I had to go through before my PS3 got the YLOD (I ended up replacing it with a 360, something I've REALLY come to regret). Some of those downloads would literally take 40 minutes.

However, I really want to here more about the Touch Pad.

[Eldyraen]

I hated patching DC Universe on day one :( Was by far most annoying DL I have encountered so far.

[SoundGamer]

People were talking about this. Someone was just not paying attention.

[Jamaicangmr]

Sony stated that they have a secondary chip to handle back ground downloading and updates.

So i doubt this will be a problem.

[sdozzo]

Ability To Sleep And Restart Is Awesome.

[PersonMan]

What about being able to play ALL PS4 games on the Vita! Nobody's really talking about that!

[Lvl_up_gamer]

"Sony seems to be taking the initial lead over Microsoft’s next generation console by doing the right things. They have shown us the games they have been working on and the technology they will be using to power them up on the PlayStation 4."

So KNACK is something right? LMFAO
They showed 5 min of Killzone, a franchise nobody cares about
the rest was all just trailers.....

I didn't see a console
Gaikai was confirmed to NOT be working so how was that doing something right?
Specs could change by launch time like Sony did with the PS2 and PS3 so again what was done right?
2 hour conference where most was all just talk and 3rd party....

MS had a 1 hour conference and actually SHOWED the console and what it will be capable of doing
Showed trailers of 1st party and 3rd party games
talked about their WORKING 300,000 server network

From what I took away from both conferences....MS did everything Sony did except MS had working console and infrastructure while Sony didn't and still doesn't.

Yet it's MS that gets all the hate....

LMFAO

[bigcupofSTFU]

you forgot TV :D

[Hicken]

Yep, a franchise nobody cares about has sold, according to the likely undertracking VG Chartz, five and a half million copies on PS3. Plus a million last gen and another on PSP.

... wait, why am I bothering?

Marked for trolling. Moving on.

[MikeMyers]

Then why are you bothering? Why don't you just mark it for trolling and actually talk about the topic at hand instead of this need of yours for attention?

Sony has already said they will be addressing all the downtime we've experienced on the PS3. It will be much faster getting started and playing games. They have even talked about partial installs and playing while the rest of the game continues to install to the hard drive.

http://www.forbes.com/sites...

The company has talked before about the complaints on the PS3 and looks to rectify the issues on the PS4.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com...

That's how you respond to a topic. You add to the discussion instead or eroding it with more nonsense. Perhaps you should try building your profile instead of keeping it at a bare minimum because you would rather go off course all the time telling everyone how your are policing the forums.

[Master-H]

"XBot, Go Home"

[Utalkin2me]

Ohh i was going to reply to you, but i see you only have 1 bubble so you couldn't reply back. Have a good day.

[Animal Mutha 76]

You do have a point lvl_up. The hate for xb1 is extreme considering how little we yet know. Sony are also being coy with the final details of PS4 including the actual device.

It's too early to say that xb1 is utter rubbish and/or the PS4 is the second coming of Christ.

I suspect that both will be more alike than people want to accept and that the killer differences will actually come down to system software and infrastructure provided by the supplier. MS is well placed in that regard IMO.

[Zancruz]

And thats why I gladly pay for PSN+... I set my PS3 to automatically update my games when I'm sleeping, so the only games updates I have to worry about is the new games I buy and use for the first time.

[porkChop]

Including the ARM CPU/GPU was a brilliant move by Sony. It's fast enough to handle a lot of less important things in the background so the main hardware doesn't waste precious performance on trivial tasks.

[kingPoS]

Vita & PS4 collaboration - a winning combination.

[porkChop]

Yup. I'm going to really enjoy playing my PS4 games all around the house. Just imagine playing Killzone: Shadowfall and Watch Dogs while laying in bed.

[yunus20]

well new gen has new problem to face, be ready

[BlueDodger323]

PS4 will f*ck your brains inside out.

[MisfitsInc]

yea i hate that with the PS3

[horndog]

Nobody is really talking about ps4 period. Its all about xbox even sony fans are more into the xbox then ps4. Nobody wants to talk about ps4. There just isnt anything great about it. Lol

[Picnic]

No-one's talking about it because we're confident that it's going to be a much easier ride, at least to start with, than the start of the PS3 or even the start of the PS2.

[sandman224]

It was one of the major things Sony needed to fix, and of course they fixed it for the ps4. I love a game company that takes complaints from there consumers and fix them.

[isarai]

While it's going to be very nice to not need to do that again, it never really bothered me that much. I'm a patient guy and am not part of this new generation of kids that want everything RIGHT NOW. usually when i get those screens all i gotta do is take a piss, make a snack, or read the manual and it's done.

[Aceman18]

amen brother you speak the truth. i would usually just flip the A/V switch on remote and watch a little tv while its doing its thing.

[SpinalRemains]

We all do that. And youre right, its not a big deal or a dilemma. It is however, something to be improved. Nothing wrong w/ improvement.

[EaziG]

Yep it'll be great when the PS4 gives us all that background updating stuff.
I've had that same experience when I fancy playing a game that hasn't seen the inside of the Playstation for a while. Only to be greeted by gigabytes of updates.
...GT5 I'm looking at you.

[linkenski]

Oh how i loved the PS2 days. Back then consumers had to deal with what was in the final product, and developers couldn't half-ass it only to fix it later through patches, but the good thing was that we didn't need to concern ourselves with keeping the games up to date so we could actually just play it when we want to.

[Supermax]

There is a option in settings that allows your ps3 to be online all the time so it can download patches and updates.and I'm not surprised at all that people use the ps3 for Netflix and listen to music,there are many people in a household only one is a gamer the others use it for entertainment nothing wrong with that.

[porkChop]

Yeah my parents have a PS3 that's mainly used for Netflix and Blu Ray movies. It's pretty much the best Blu Ray player you can get.

[windblowsagain]

I get what panda is saying, and servers could be better for patches etc. But as I only buy the games I want, i'm mainly kept upto date.

But PS4 does auto patching in the background, so should be ok.

Really Panda though, you bought a PS3 for Blu-ray and Netflix.

I have just PS3/PC, enjoy both. But PC does not have all the games I enjoy. FPS/RACING/PLATFORM/TPS. PC is lacking in many respects gaming wise and that's the reason i'll be getting a PS4. GAMES.

[fullmetal297]

This is also coming from a person who owns both a PC and PS3. I bought a PS3 solely for the exclusives and I enjoy games like God of War 3 and Killzone 3, but I gravitate more toward the PC mainly for the freedom and cheaper games.

Sure it has bunch of exclusives but nothing can compare to the sheer amount of custom mods on the PC. The Hidden, Trouble in Touble, Day Z are few of the prime examples. CSS is still popular and alive to this day solely because the crazy mods.

You also have the freedom to have your own custom server for games you like to play. Having your own server entitles you make your own rules, have any content you desire, and blacklist anyone.

[BitbyDeath]

Looking forward to this feature, always have a good laugh when i buy a game brand new and almost 9/10 times i have to download a patch.

[redcar121]

xbox update no longer than 5 min poor sony fanboys

[Adolph Fitler]

"xbox update no longer than 5 min poor sony fanboys"

Yes redcar, that is because developers are unable to update the lag there games suffer on Live, as it is MS's system, so the lag stays in the Xbox versions, whereas, the PS3 versions have these things fixed......
But I guess you'll spin it as, "but the, at least we get the games the way the developer originally released themz".

[quaneylfc]

im ok with those updates, what can't people wait half an hour, are you that impatient, calm down!

the xbox one and ps4 will do the same thing, i think it is something to do with overall performance, the ps3 was more powerful than the xbox and the games are much larger, i take these patches like the bf updates, once every while you'll need to download one, so what?

they will both do it because theyre games will be more powerful and a forced install with prevent them from overheating

[strifeblade]

wow this feature is amazing, im buying a ps4 for this feature alone. How the **** did this feature fly over our heads? Like im a huge sony fan and am on this site 24/7 and i am only hearing about this now!?!?!? Thank god for n4g i dont know what i would have done if i did not hear about this, and now i have something to talk about for dinner time. HONESTLY Can the PS4 get any better than this? I mean it surpassed pcs, it has gddr5 (something unheard of until now)and even the new eyetoy (screw the new kinect, eytoy is way better), gakai cloud (microsoft cloud service 300 000 thousand servers is a joke- heard the servers are fake = not even real)

Wow i am glad i am getting ps4 and not xbone- i mean all xbone has is halo 5 and gears 6 and forza 5- boring! I want originaL new ips like uncharted 4 and little big planet 3 and infamous 3 and killzone shadowfall ALL ORIGINAL ALL THE TIME OH YEAH!

SONY FAN FOIR LIFE PCE

[fullmetal297]

Yeah, I do agree with panda when it comes to download cap of PSN and the intergrated wireless adapter. I have a PS3 Slim and it only has a wireless g adapter which makes downloading games and streaming Netflix a hassle since the download caps to 54Mb/s. It's frustrating having a 54Mb/s cap because I own a wireless N dual-band router.

[Kane22]

the only time i have an issue with downloading or streaming netflix. is cause of my internet being stupid. it has nothing to do with my ps3 unless ps3 is breaking.

[fullmetal297]

So you don't notice a difference switching from wireless to wired? I tried the self-built speed test with both wireless and and ethernet and noticed a huge difference. With wireless I had and average speed 8Mb/sec and the ethernet had an average of 15Mb/sec which is quite the difference.

Streaming Netflix is also noticeably different because there much less instances of video buffering. It can't be my wireless router since I'm using an ASUS Dual-band 600N router nor can it be my ISP since I have 30Mb connection I don't have the same issue with steam.

[DivineAssault]

I must say that i hate going through these updates then installing.. To be free of those long boring patches will be great

[isyourhouseonfire]

Sony will have a successful console. Maybe it will be 2nd place to the XBOX, or maybe 3rd place behind the WII U, but it will be successful and profitable and that is what counts in the end.

[psyxon]

they need to have a feature that can quickly detect if a psn id is available lol. i ended up just making my own program to do it.

[ismail_ng]

ps4 win...

[airgangstarr]

sony can make the best console ever but as long as there network is lacking it might be free but is it even worth that much? so if they wanna beat xbox make a comparable network an i can go buy a ps4.. but if they dont im not interested i had a ps3 worst online experience i ever had u had to use the gam e features to join friends u couldnt m ake lobbys party chats the games were laggy as hell it was overall a bad experience i dont mind paying but im not spending 500 on a console that has such a lacking network again

[psyxon]

ahahahahahaha. nice joke man. +1

[azazel665]

If PS4 is taking the lead over Xbox One, then Dreamcast took the lead over PS1 because the taglines were exactly the same. PS1 was future of entertainment. Dreamcast was future of gaming. Sony showed other forms of entertainment on PS1. Dreamcast focused just on games. How did that turn out, again?

[Robotronfiend]

Doesn't bother me. Having PS+ auto-download and install patches is really nice. I don't rent games very often at all so, that's not an issue for me. I got PS+ for other reasons and the daily check for patches is a nice icing on the PS+ cake.

[jjb1981]

How did I lose a bubble?