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Submitted by GoldenElf 918d ago | news

Are You Excited About Xbox One? Microsoft Fans Say 'No'

Tynan Muddle at writes: "Microsoft seem to have shot themselves in the foot with a recent Facebook post asking fans if they're excited about the upcoming Xbox One console.

Over 4,200 people responded to the question "are you excited about Xbox One" with the overwhelming majority deciding, in many colourful ways, that they are not." (Microsoft, Xbox One)

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jc48573  +   918d ago | Well said
it's amazing. I want to see more people switch side, support nintendo, buy ps4, stay on pc, stick with good old 360, etc. By all means stay away from xboxone, unless you're one of those who enjoy being enslaved.
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M-M  +   918d ago
I just want Microsoft fans to wake up and see what Microsoft's intentions truly are. If you love your system so much, why are you trying to support the bad features so much that will eventually make it fail?
jc48573  +   918d ago
you won't believe how many dumbasses I've seen in real life. They do anything to support the "brand." One good example is Capcom fans. I mean, I'm simply asking them to realize what the Company is doing wrong, but you'll be amazed at how they respond with words like "but the game is good, I can do whatever I want with my money" or "I think it's worth the 50 dollars I spend on Resident Evil Revelations" and yadi yadi yadi ya. We keep telling them to answer with their wallets, but how many of them are doing so intelligently and consciously? Is it wrong to spend your money a little more wisely? companies should be paying us to use their brands btw.
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Godmars290  +   918d ago
And the same has to be said about Sony should they get anywhere near what MS is trying to do.

Though at the very least I believe that when they say you don't have to be online all the time, they mean it.
NatureOfLogic  +   918d ago
I've come to simple conclusion that MS are using these tactics to control your NOW free physical content like they do with your digital content.
DeanSanchez  +   918d ago | Funny
Games have changed. ID-tagged players carry ID-tagged consoles,
use ID-tagged games. DRM inside their software enhance and regulate their playability...

Game control.. Information control..
Account control.. Retail control.

Everything is monitored, and kept under control.

Games.. have changed.

*who just read this in Old Snake's voice?*
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Unicron  +   918d ago
Damn the Patriots!
Why o why  +   918d ago
Lol, nice one dean
Godmars290  +   918d ago
And now we know the real reason why MGS4 will never be on the Xbox...
BigPappaPump  +   918d ago
Dean, this bubble's on me for being funny =)
S2Killinit  +   918d ago
@Dean Sanchez
I laughed when I read your post lol gave you a bubble.
LAZL0-Panaflex   918d ago | Off topic | show
ABizzel1  +   918d ago

I agree with you, my uncle is one of those people. We both sat and watched the same show, and saw all the BS, but he's still going to get an Xbox One. because he flat-out refuses to buy anything PlayStation and his only excuse is "I don't like PlayStation" which is beyond ignorant and does do it for me.

I secretly think he's upset that Sony came in and succeeded where the Sega Saturn failed, then killed Sega with the PS2. So instead of getting a PS2 the most popular gaming console of all time, he held out to get a Xbox, then went with 360, and even after seeing this mess he's still sticking with Xbox.

Some people are just stubborn, to borderline ignorance, but it's their money, let them wast it (even if it hurts you).
BeZdaBest  +   918d ago
that same quote can be thrown at any company..

"________ fans to wake up and see what __________ are"


.removal of BC..proceeds to sell hd ps2 games
.psn hack.. takes three month to acknowledge
.lauches controller wo/rumble "sez they cant" then not even a year later introduces dualshock 3
.starting to become like nintendo with specific ips..( god of war.. uncharted .. granturismo..sly cooper) ( not a problem as long as games are good)

.removal of BC..proceeds to charge people via gaikai(need to be connected to the internet at all times just to play..ironic isnt it)
.heavy integration of social life.( im not a fan)


.charges alittle more for just about everthing.
.also has a BC problem


.everything(as of right now)


.overall strange company ( not bad but weird)
.doesnt follow trends. (power trend i dont mind but lot of people do...)
.nintendo ips (more old then new ips.. once again not a problem as long as the games are good)
RiPPn  +   918d ago
Another thing, if you point out what a con job Xbox Live Gold is, 360 fans will call you poor, or cheap, they just love giving their money to Microsoft.

All you have to do is look how they treated the 360, they gave gamers what they wanted at first to get the 360 in peoples homes, then they screwed them over while catering to the casuals.

Why would anyone trust them not to do it again. I suspect they will show some great games at E3 to begin the trojan horse process all over again.
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Lvl_up_gamer  +   918d ago
I am very excited for X1.

Day one buy for me
MikeyDucati1  +   918d ago
It's the "Save Face" syndrome. We are all guilty of it when we don't want to be wrong. Still, I can't help but invoke my inner Nelson and say...

solidjun5  +   917d ago
LMAO!! Dean, that was classic. +Bubbles

@LvL_Up_gamer: What a surprise. they could show you a cardboard box and you would still makes that statement.
liquidhalos  +   917d ago
Im a very, very disgruntled xbox fan. M$ has just said thank you very much for supporting us over the life of the 360, thank you for paying for live for all this time so you can maximize your gaming experience but you can fuck off now, we dont want or need you.

Im so disappointed, the stick we've had to put up with from ps fans regarding the consoles shortcomings, eg pay to play online and what not. And they were right, it turns out supporting an M$ console was the wrong choice.

We tolerated Live subscriptions, we scraped through the kinect fiasco and now M$ is done with us. People seem to have forgotten, its a games console, we want games with entertainment as an optional secondary function. I dont want a hyped up sky box cross wii. i want games, i want what ive always wanted from a games console, GAMES...

Sorry, its just upsetting. rant over :(
SHORYUKEN  +   917d ago
To all gamers.

If you are a gamer then you won't buy xbox one. Gamers are smart and they won't buy the ANTI CONSUMER box.

If you still buy the xbox one then you are not a gamer but a stupid Fanboy!
waltercross  +   917d ago
@ BeZdaBest

That Social media part on the PS4 is game related, and I use Youtube, FB and twitter very often. Works for me.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   918d ago
@jc48573..... i can't wait to see if you change your tune when you find out that Sony is going to make you pay to play, and have their own version of what MS is doing. EA just didn't give up on season passes on sony's side just because.

It's coming.. and you Sony fans are going to see it's going to happen to you too. But oh well right.. because there's always the PC. LMAO.
SexyGamerDude  +   918d ago
Just because MS is doing it doesn't mean other companies will. By your logic, the WiiU should be charging us fees and forcing us to be connected. Why isn't Nintendo doing it?
kneon  +   918d ago
Sony does not require online for the PS4 which makes implementing any viable DRM impractical.

I'm not saying they won't do something that will piss people off, that's a possibility with any company, but DRM is not likely one of those things.
1lawrence  +   918d ago
thats like saying xbox 360 charges for u to play online so sony is going to do it. but they didnt so your logic is flawed
RiPPn  +   918d ago
If Sony pulls what Microsoft is doing, then I'm Wii U, Steam Box, Vita, and 3DS all the way. That's the beauty of choice, we don't have to put up with these tactics at all.
T2  +   918d ago
Its sad how people actually try to defend well thought up arguments against a company's shady practice with "others will do it too"... and wish for the whole gaming industry to go down the toilet just so they can justify their argument or say "i told you so".... pathetic.
slpknt6sic6  +   918d ago
Microsoft didn't show anything that benefits gamers. They should rename the console to Xbox one out of Ten lol. all I saw was Tv and apps I don't want. we want games plain and simple. Its clear that Microsoft have games at the bottom of their list of priorities. to the blind fanboys saying games come at e3, why did they show multiplatform games then? it wasn't to surprise you at e3, it was because they are behind on development like reports earlier this year stated. how could they mess everything up when they had 7+ years to prepare for the new xbox. its inexcusable and I will NOT support them this gen. its sony and Nintendo for me this time.
DragonKnight  +   918d ago
How can anyone be excited about the Xbox One unless they are illiterate or lack any sense whatsoever? I mean, every day new information about the Xbox One comes out and NONE of it is good. Absolutely NONE of it. Like the new patent MS filed for the Kinect 2 which is a form of DRM that will make you pay extra money if more users than you registered on you console watch a movie or something. Microsoft really don't give a damn anymore. They are blatantly greedy and are trying to target the brain dead sheeple of the world.

Xbox One's Official Theme Song.

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MikeMyers  +   918d ago
So on top of people being morons for buying Diablo III, everyone is now illiterate that may buy an Xbox One.

Thankfully we have you telling us all what we should and shouldn't buy. Why don't you just worry about your own purchases?
waltercross  +   917d ago
@ MikeMyers

Consider it from a concerned player, Get MS not DragonKnight.
LAZL0-Panaflex  +   918d ago
NextGen24Gamer  +   918d ago
My bet would be that the ps4 outsells the Xbox One at first. But, once friends of friends start seeing the games in action and all the cool things the xbox one can do outside of gaming...the tables will turn and turn quickly. Its funny because I was thinking why would Microsoft make a console that was less powerful than the ps4. Microsoft has all the money in the world, all the tech in the world, and a huge user base. But the more and more I read about the cloud and the infrastructure that Microsoft has built with thousands and thousands of servers....It all makes sense now. The xbox one is 10 times more powerful than the xbox can stop there and I as a gamer am pleased with just that...but then you add in the cloud and it gives developers 3x the power of one Xbox One and BAM!!!! You have games that will be 30x that of the xbox 360 games. That blows my mind and it's future proof! It's not limited by the hardware....The crazy part is, MS could always add more and more servers in the cloud and take that 3x the power and make that 6x the power halfway through the xbox ones life cycle and the Ps4 wouldn't be able to keep up. But heres the catch...the only way that works, is if developers know that 90% of the xbox one owners are CONNECTED!!!!! With the ps4, even if they wanted to play catch up and start building servers and adding that into their development tools...they would need to assure developers that everyone who has purchased a ps4 is connected! Not going to happen...and they are way too far behind. Ms has been planning this for 7 years and have an unbelievable amount of servers powering their cloud. As a Gamer, I'm IN! If people don't want their console connected and play the most high tech games...keep playing on your xbox 360 or buy a ps4. In 5 years we will all wonder how we lived in an era where we weren't connected online anyway!
theBAWSE  +   918d ago
.. And there goes your answer to.... ' what happens when you drink to much redbull listening to major nelson podcasts on repeat in your bedroom? '
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T2  +   918d ago
holy sht, there's delusional and then there's full on bat sht crazy. You must get a huuuge cut of every xbox sold. Congrats.
Aceman18  +   917d ago
You know elite even if I saw one of my friends playing the "box" I still wouldn't buy it since its anti-consumer. If somehow Sony pulled the same stunt I wouldn't buy their system either.

As it stands right now the only two consoles I will be purchasing will be ps4 and wii u, but again if Sony goes anti-consumer I won't purchase console and just keep gaming on my ps3.

I love how here in America we have people complaining about not having enough money but are so willing to give away money so easily even though what's happening isn't in our best interest.

Also I already have a cable dvr box why would I want something that can't even do that right. Would also like to say this voice command crap will definitely be for the lazy Americans we have here lol.
waltercross  +   917d ago
@ Elite24Gamer

You're just trying to sell people Bullshit, Luckily some of us have common sense. I prefer options, not restrictions....The more I read about the XBO the pisser I get, and I'm not a XBOX fan but I am a Game fan.
NewZealander  +   918d ago
so many idiotic comments being made about XBOX ONE on this site.

i think its crazy how people especially rabbid fanboys will go on a rampage and tear the competition to shreds, i think people need to take a step back and realize it is just a console, newly announced and there is still a lot we don't know about the product.

people need to quit all the chest puffing, we have seen some good ideas and not so good ideas, but this thing is still in its infancy, as is the ps4, ill wait and see what comes from E3, but for now im excited, so many negative people round here!
IBleedXbox  +   918d ago
why not. the kinect is always on. listening and possibly seeing you. and it is an always online system since cloud requires online and the kinect
Hufandpuf  +   918d ago
Not technically. The system requires to be connected once every 24 or so hours just so it can operate. Still sucks but not AS bad as it's made out to be.

EDIT: Technically not, but I don't even care I'm not even getting the Xbox One.
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IBleedXbox  +   918d ago
Once every 24 hours? Still always online
waltercross  +   917d ago
Actually some games will require an always connection according to some Articles. Also when youre online, playing MP or whatever the Kinect will always be looking at you....Kind of scary.
Majin-vegeta  +   918d ago
Every video i've seen so far of the xbox Juan,The top comments have someone saying their switching to another platform.Good job M$ keep it coming and let Sony and the other platforms reap in the rewards.
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SexyGamerDude  +   918d ago
I know what you mean. I used to be a MS fan. It feels good to be on the dark side of the force.
Aquarhane  +   918d ago
I wanted Microsoft to prove all the rumors wrong, but when they gave us all of this, the want for another xbox console quickly died.
Jek_Porkins  +   918d ago
I'm a Microsoft fan and I'm excited, and I'm sure others will be too when some of these messy misunderstandings get cleared up, and some games being shown will do wonders too.

Now that it seems like used games are just like normal, I expect a lot of the hate to die down, we can get back to just being excited about the idea of that sexy new controller, dedicated servers, 15 exclusives over the first year and a ton of other great things on the horizon!
M-M  +   918d ago | Well said
This is one of the people I'm referring to.
duli14  +   918d ago
He will bend right over for M$
BigPappaPump  +   918d ago
Brazz  +   918d ago
Respect the guy, everyone is entitled to opinions and choices ... If he wants to continue with the xbox so be it.
militant07  +   918d ago
Are you crazy, if you don't buy PS4 then you're consider animal, there is no right or wrong.
PS4 is out religion and life.

-Typical N4Ger
bluetoto  +   918d ago

"Respect the guy"

why, he doesn't even respect himself, so why should we?


Sadly you are correct and it helps when your supporters are a bunch of braindead nimrods.
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T2  +   918d ago
People get so defensive on a simple debate too - hey you could go buy an AMC gremlin to drive around in too, but don't expect people to try and educate you on why you maybe should have thought it through a bit better.
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Unicron  +   918d ago
"some games being shown will do wonders too"

Sleight of hand baby. Show the people something shiny on the right while stomping on their rights on the left. Classic.
Why o why  +   918d ago
You either have a strong PMA

Or you're an employee of ms.

Cant quite work it out but I'm kinda veering towards the

I'm kinda excited as ms usually have a trick or 2 up their sneaky sleeves but e3 better be choca block full of games. If I hear tv tv tv tv again, I'm out

Oh you never seem to cuss.....suspicious
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Gamer-Z  +   918d ago
Lol Jek_Porkins i bet even if somehow the console sprouted legs and kicked you in the balls every day you would still support it.
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GT67  +   918d ago
@ jek_porkins

one question: ARE YOU SERIOUS???? and you wonder why you have 13 disagree's
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Jek_Porkins  +   918d ago
I'm on N4G, of course I'm going to get disagrees if I say anything positive about Microsoft. I believe a Facebook poll accurately represents how Microsoft fans feel about the next Xbox about as much as I'd believe a poll from N4G members about the next Xbox.

That isn't even journalism.
GT67  +   918d ago
@ jer

but you know X1 is a flop we gamers was wondering are you on drugs for making that useless comment.
im sure you are a MS fan but after reading soooooo many articles from here IGN,GAMESPOT so on of RROD,E74,DISK TRAY SUCK, game scratched and gamers saying they bought 3-8 360's why would anyone go through that all over again with X1?? im not saying ps3 /ps4 better but damn less problems i had with my 60gb ps3 bought mine back in 2007 she still humming.
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BeZdaBest  +   918d ago
if you invested money on one platform for so many years(which im assuming by the way)i dont see why he shouldnt buy ONE.

honestly i like tech' and i liked the tech aspect of it.but if it really needs to watch me like sauron all i have to say is..

basically what im trying to say is.. "to each his own"
Pillsbury1  +   918d ago
This guy likes to "stay on target". Even with all the restrictions and fees he still will support his Microsoft overlords.
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ShwankyShpanky  +   918d ago
"Now that it seems like used games are just like normal"

Can you clarify that statement?
Unicron  +   918d ago
Theres a rumor going around that MS changed its stance already. Since its positive, its clearly now a fact.
Jek_Porkins  +   918d ago
Sure thing buddy :)

Now yall can focus on hating the Xbox One for other reasons, acceptable reasons being:
They still charge for online! To which my reply will be, Xbox One will have dedicated servers for all their games!

So on and so forth...
ShwankyShpanky  +   918d ago
"according to sources familiar with the system."

"The ultimate system that Xbox One will use for used games and online authentication sounds like it is still in open debate on some level internally."

Yeah, I'd call that a rumor. The same article also says:

"authentication on the console's hard drive tied to the game is then verified regularly through an internet connection. When a person sells the game or it is installed and played on another system, the game is deauthenticated on the original machine until the disc is brought back and used to re-authenticate the installation."

So does that mean if you sell the game to GameStop (as an example) that you can still actually play the game until someone buys and installs it? Or does GameStop authenticate it to cancel your authentication? Or are you supposed to report the sale to MS? This is all very up in the air, so to say that it is "just like normal" is pretty disingenuous.

"They still charge for online! To which my reply will be, Xbox One will have dedicated servers for all their games!"

That Wired article doesn't explicitly state that dedicated servers for all games are a given, it says that's one of the potential applications of the cloud. It would be excellent if that ends up being the case, though.

I do like this prospect:

"multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32"

...but didn't Zipper already do 256 players three years ago with MAG (the "small" matches were 32v32)? The game sometimes seemed like just a proof-of-concept, but I found it fun while the community lasted.

"Now yall can focus on hating the Xbox One for other reasons, acceptable reasons being:"
-24hr periodic handshake
-mandatory spyware
-DRM restrictions still up in the air
-paying for online (use those dashboard ads to pay for dedicated servers)
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waltercross  +   917d ago
Actually it says, "no fee to reactivate a used game" But what if your friend wanted to play it at his house? can he just Install it and play?
RiPPn  +   918d ago
Microsoft is going to show you the games you want at E3 to get the box in your home and to keep you giving them money for Xbox Live Gold. Then just like the 360, they will stop focusing on games and hope 3rd parties carry them, all while trying to shove more casual crap down your throat.

I don't see how anyone can trust them going forward no matter what games they show or how they spin the negatives.
liquidhalos  +   917d ago
How many of these 15 exclusives dont rely on kinect?
Jek_Porkins  +   917d ago
How many Sony exclusives are going to be core? Do you think they'll still use Move? Or there camera that is a lot like Kinect?

The point is, we don't know. I hope since Kinect is with every console that they at least implement it as an option where it makes sense. Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 and Forza 4 show that as an option or addition, it works pretty well.

I'd venture to say of the 15, maybe 3-4 will be full Kinect, but certainly not Black Tusks game, the Remedy offering and the old school Rare project.

We wont know until after E3, but hopefully they offer some compelling games.
NavydAd  +   918d ago
I'm a Xbox fan and I like the controller and more precise kinect. I just need them to show me at least two exclusives I want and I will buy it.
slpknt6sic6  +   918d ago
Dude its not like I don't like the Xbox controller or the exclusives either. its that I don't like Microsoft forcing always online, DRM, TV and sports down our throats. not all my friends can afford every game, and I like to let them borrow mine. That way they to can play them and enjoy them as I have. and if I support this and buy an Xbox it only hurts gamers like myself. eventually Sony and Nintendo will follow if Microsoft is successful with the Xbox one. Then we are all F*****. if I have to miss gears of war so be it, but I will not help ruin gaming.
NavydAd  +   918d ago
I dont really mind the issue with the used games since I only buy new games. I can understand your plea because it affects you, but I mean they do it already on PC. We complain about only getting COD every year and everyone trying to copy. Its because used games take away from development. I read somewhere that Heavy rain sold like x amount of copies and yet the amount of people with trophies was 3 times that amount.
tuglu_pati  +   918d ago
I dont get the always online problem. My electronics are always online and connected. I can understand that some people will have problems with it because the dont have good connection, but I bet you that most of the people complaining here have great online connections.
liquidhalos  +   917d ago
Look at the national average line quality and speeds for your country, im sure you will find that a majority of people are on sub par connections. High speed and stable for most places is restricted to CBD areas
Drainage  +   918d ago
im an ps3 guy and i will be getting a ps4
Sarobi  +   918d ago
I seen quite a few people over at the official Xbox forums being paranoid about the Kinect always being on. I guess we're all really unsure of the idea at this point.
GreenRanger  +   918d ago
Gaming fans say 'No'.
Pillsbury1  +   918d ago
Go go power rangeeeerrrrrr!
CommonSenseGamer  +   918d ago
At this stage I'm not excited about either. Waiting to see more games first.
2pacalypsenow  +   918d ago
I miss the days when PS2 Dominated the console market . It was all about games. No coincidence that the best games came out during the Ps2 era
Empire X  +   918d ago
I think this is a direct results of the rrod. Microsoft released the 360 knowing it had issues and people ate it up. I have friends that went through 3 to 5 360s. So why would they change? They know no matter what they do people will buy it any way. I hope they change there tune but if not it will be because of all those excuse makers that bought there broken 360 the first time.
duli14  +   918d ago
Can you ask them why they bought 3-5 360's for me? I just don't get it. Is it because PS3 took about a year to come to the market? My 360 RROD just after three years of purchase and I got a ps3 and never looked back.
Empire X  +   918d ago
I have. They say they just like the 360.
Salooh  +   918d ago
I bought 2 360's. Am i considered a fan ?. No matter what the answer is i'm not buying X1 because the negatives are huge. Before i started buying 360 i only saw 2 small negatives : pay to play online and buying many accessories like battery charger , wifi..etc , Then i discovered other negatives too like rrod , focus on kinect, Live only connected to one account and few exclusives ..etc

However , now i can mention at least 6 big negatives and we still don't know the negatives that MS didn't mention. MS were always like this and i got over xbox360 because of the great experience i had like playing gears1 and alan wake.

Kinect always watching and few exclusives..etc are heart breaking to me for any console even ps4 ..
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Akira2020  +   918d ago
By purchasing the Xbox-One, that will send a message to all those companies that it's okay to nickel and dime us. Microsoft is even trying to nickel and dime the developers.

I love my 360, but DON'T SUPPORT THIS!!!
stonecold3  +   918d ago
I just pre order my ps4
Pillsbury1  +   918d ago
Left and right I see Xbox fans and gamers absolutely despise microsofts decisions. They had to realize microsofts horrid ways and open their eyes sooner or later.
AO1JMM  +   918d ago
I am
1lawrence  +   918d ago
i cant believe xbox one still uses batteries whats with that. another way to nickel n dime u
PigPen  +   918d ago
With the Nintendo Wii U out, I wonder what Microsoft was thinking. Nintendo don't matter but we do, so we will DRM our console and keep it always on line to spy into people house.
urwifeminder  +   918d ago
Could never make me switch ms for life even though pc smashes all these consoles pc is king for me a recent convert but xbox is going to be in my collection I am a massive fan.
Supermax  +   918d ago
Xbox one on day one
horndog  +   918d ago
Day one for me also but these articles are getting old. How many of these same articles must we have? I think we got the point now.
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Hicken  +   918d ago
You get the point, but you're still gonna get it day 1?

I feel certain you don't know what the point is.

As for Jek.... that one is a lost cause. I'll be sure to send him some lube for his birthday, as he's gonna need it.
level 360  +   918d ago
Not overly excited, just fairly I think so.
Sh0ckWav3  +   918d ago
xb1..better show the goods comes e3, and not this freaking crap they pull at the reavel...i cant belive ms didnt learn from sony when they tried this crap with the ps3 in the beggining..
xbox -1
RuleofOne343  +   918d ago
Looking forward to owning one and see how it is & if exceeds expectation I my buy a second for the BR. till release date I must wait .
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Mithan  +   918d ago
I am not excited at all, for this or the PS4.

Games are becoming boring.
SonyPS4  +   918d ago
Nah, I just bought a new 360 today (what a great system) and I now have a huge backlog of titles to play. MS has a lot to prove before an XOne even has a chance to sneak into my house.
DivineAssault  +   918d ago
I understand that gaming is evolving but one thing at a time.. MS thinks they can just push all this change on us at once & its not going to work.. I will stick with sony only this time.. I had both 360 & PS3 this gen but nx gen im not supporting MS in anything they try to do.. I watched the PS4 reveal again & it has/does everything i want from nx gen without the chains.. Other than no BC, it seems perfect from the info that was given.. The UI, specs, features, media format, etc.. Im not going to be forced to check in as if i have a curfew just to play my games.. Im not going to install every damn game i buy.. Im not going to have a camera looking/listening 24/7, & im not interested in television services beyond my standard channels.. PS4 is built to be a gamers device.. Not a broad audiences media machine
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