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The Next Xbox Will Require an Internet Connection To Start Games, Sources Say

Two Kotaku sources have added more credence to the rumor that the next Xbox, expected to battle the PlayStation 4 in late 2013 or early 2014, will be an always-online system, though it will be able to tolerate dropped connections.

TrevorPhillips4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I hope not, don't like the idea of that :/

Playing offline alone has a major aspect to it and having to have internet connection just to start games is obviously not a great idea.

Snookies124471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Lol, how can people disagree with that? I suppose if you have a wonderful internet connection at all times, you just don't care about it. However, I'm in a situation where my internet connection is NOT stable. Anything that HAS to be online to start or play, I will not buy, period. That's why I didn't pre-order SimCity despite being super excited about the announcement of it. Won't touch that game til/if it goes offline.

TrevorPhillips4471d ago

Lets just hope it's not true bro, I doubt Microsoft would pull off such move :/

thechosenone4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I have no problem with always on DRM whatsoever and if MS chooses to use it, I'm back them 100%. This is just my opinion of course, it doesn't mean you have to agree with me or anything. Have a good day gents.

http://youtu.be/eyooCErXdMI...

Nitrowolf24471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@Thechosenone

I really hope your kidding. This idea is terrible period!
I know MS has better network than Sony, but they have been down before and even for days. No network, no matter how good it is, cannot prevent stuff like that.
Lets not forget people who don't have internet, outages, ect ect.

No connection = no gaming, pretty much you have a useless console on you're hand.

Look at Sim City, just one of the outcome of always online.

I really really really hope this rumor is 100% false. I like taking my console to places also, and I'm sure there are plenty of others who do the same.

Snookies124471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@thechosenone - Yeah, my point exactly, YOU don't care. A lot of people actually do though, and whether you know it or not, there are still quite a few people around the world who don't have access to an internet connection at all. How do you think they'd feel about this?

Unless of course you're kidding, as Nitrowolf2 stated.

Temporary4471d ago

im pretty certain that if all these things about the next XBox end up being true ... it's safe to say that the people that actually buy it are either diehard brainwashed fanboys, or clueless casual gamers.

vet_medic4471d ago

it's like SimCity..

..what can possibly go wrong

Hercules1894471d ago

Temporary, or maybe we just like Microsofts games, ya thought about that?

Moncole4471d ago

People disagree with it because they are trolls and do it to make you mad. Just ignore it.

DragonKnight4471d ago

As I have said before, I will so say again, there is no such thing as a constantly stable network connection. MS will shoot themselves in the foot if they do this. Especially with countries that just don't have the infrastructure for such a move.

That being said, this is Kotaku and I don't care if they've been right before, I don't trust them.

BlindGuardian4471d ago

aaaaaaaaaaaannnnndddddddd it's gone

MS's street cred, that is

g2gshow4471d ago

because they are retarded some people even kill them self what do you expect from the fool's

KaBaW4471d ago

" Won't touch that game til/if it goes offline." That didn't make sense. :P

Won't touch that game til it goes offline.
Won't touch that game if it goes offline.
So, basically.. you won't touch the game, regardless? ^_^

But, anyway, I agree with you. I have good connection, but still.
I have problems with it; occasional drops and other times no connection.
It would just be stupid for MS to do this, it makes no sense.

thechosenone4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I said I'd back MS if they chose to use it always on DRM, I never said anything about Sony. And since I don't really like DRM on my system I'll go with Sony and the PS4 for my next-gen gaming needs. Good luck to you MS, I wish you the very best.

BlindGuardian4471d ago

what's with all the comments here that say that we have to wait for MS official word?

rumors about the PS4 turned out to be almost 100% accurate, Eurogamer even mentioned that some devs were told by Sony that they might go with 8gb of ram on the final build and not the 4 on the dev kits

this is a rumor reported by multiple websites for months, MS might change their plan at the last moment and remove it, but now you can pretty certain that it's true

andrewsqual4471d ago

Thank you thechosenone. Why are so many people getting worked up about this?
Just bite the pillow and push that Microsoft Branded Dildo further up your asshole. You took it for years already, what is a little bit more now?

Dee_914471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

@ snookies I said something similar when I heard the concept of live."Pay for online haha yea right, no one will buy that crap"
Well I was proven wrong and ended up buying a 360 despite how insane at the time paying extra for features already on the game sounded ,and im afraid the same will happen here..

But unlike most n4g im just gonna wait til we get full info before I form an opinion.

@ blindguardian
That makes no sense at all.Bottom line its a rumor and to be taken with a grain of salt no matter who the rumor comes from.If you see fault in waiting for official word then you need to be evaluated.

BlindGuardian4471d ago

@Dmarc

do you know how reporters that breakout news based on investigation operate? two sources

if two people independently tell you the same piece of information then that information is true, and that's what's happening here

Cryptcuzz4471d ago

So true. My brothers are moving to a new home and its located in a rural area where the major internet providers do not provide service to. (ATT and Comcast)

My older brother is a major Xbox supporter, but I can see if he would not be able to buy the next Xbox on launch and play at least single player games and campaign, he would flip and probably not even get one.

gatormatt804471d ago

Here's a thought... Is it possible that MS may have put this info out in public, about having always on connection, on purpose to see how the public/user base would react to said info?

That-Guy4471d ago

"The Next Xbox Will Require an Internet Connection To Start Games" > N4G says "Hopefully".

thereapersson4471d ago

Most of you can't tell when chosenone is trolling!

Kevin ButIer4470d ago

In emerging markets Xbox dominated because of piracy... Even nowadays is hard to see PS3 piracy.. if this is true... things will change a lot..

CyberCam4470d ago (Edited 4470d ago )

LOL @ andrewsqual's comment!

+1 bubble up!

I almost pee myself from laughing so hard. Funny, but so true!

The not so funny thing is that I wouldn't put it pass M$ to have always online incorporated in the next xbox.

I mean they got away with charging people to play games online (which I still can't believe to this day), they are certainly arrogant enough to take it a to the next level.

Hellsvacancy4470d ago

Im internet provider is awesome, im on a very stable network, rarely goes offline, so it wont really affect me either, but its a HORRIBLE idea

I moved house last year, whilst my internet was getting transferred to a new address, I was offline for over a month, I catched up on quite afew single player games whilst that was happening

I still dont think MS will do it personally

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sengoku4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

i'm sure M$ have will consider this option, for now nothing is sure about the neXtbox but there are so many of these articles going round that this might be true.

sure there will be a backlash towards M$ for doing something like this but they might go ahead with it anyway simply because there whole system might be so kinect2.0 + internet connection depended it's might as well include this DRM feature..

i'm sure hackers will find other ways to get there way, but as always is the case with DRM, the legit users will suffer for it.

AngelicIceDiamond4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Highly Doubt it, but N4G already has the rumor scale in the green with "hard to tell. In other words they want it to be true.

When will you fanboys learn.

EDIT: I don't approve of this rumor because its stupid. the majority of people aren't ready for a potential "DRM console" its dumb rumor. A rumor that MS could very well be testing, but can't see MS going for that in the final hardware stages.

If that was the case then MS console won't be a real gaming console, at all.

ps3_pwns4471d ago

its true! if it wasnt then M$ would deny it. if someone said i was a woman beater i wouldnt just stay quite i would deny it because its not true and denying things that are not true do not hurt you. MS is like jodi arias.

KaBaW4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

They wouldn't deny it. Because it gives away details one way or the other.
Basically, people would just start making up things to figure it all out.
If they deny it, it's false. If they say nothing, it's true. See how that works?
They don't want to give out details until they are ready, then it'll all be out.
They will acknowledge true claims and deny the claims that turn out false.

Honestly, I think people need to just chill and wait for the announcement.

SilentNegotiator4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

It's in the green because this makes about a hundred sources that have claimed it to be true.

It's the fault of whoever designed the bar that it classifies ranges as "desire" instead of "believability"

MysticStrummer4470d ago

"When will you fanboys learn."

Learn what? Rumors turn out to be true sometimes you know, especially rumors that keep popping up like this one does.

It is funny that the verdict is "Hopefully" though. That should be changed to "Maybe" or something like that.

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nthstew4471d ago

may be one time checking for alegit disc is fine but mandatory for playing games is rubbish Microsoft

KaBaW4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

It says they can handle dropped connections so that may be all it is.
To make sure the disc being inserted into the console is a legit copy.
They may have a fallback. Like no connection means no achievements.
Iduno, but I just can't see them denying everyone without a connection.

andrewsqual4471d ago

If that thing about installing the games completely is true, then they CAN'T have a console that can go offline. It would be hacked and people would just not have to ever put it near an internet connection to be able to keep it the way they want it. They will even find out ways to get the games on the hard drive then without even requiring a disc because Microsoft made it so easy with the full installs just like with the current 360.
So making it always online eliminates piracy then.

mcstorm4470d ago

For me its not an issue I have a good internet connection and in away the XBOX is kind of like this as to play videos you need an internet connection at all time so its just a step up from this.

I do see it being a deal for some people but im sure 90% of gamers now have an internet connection at home now anyway and that all there consoles are connected to the network 24/7 with an internet connection.

I would like to see a survey done of how many people who have a current console don't use any of its online parts and also of who is going to get a WiiU, PS4 and Next xbox and only play it offline as they are missing out on a big part of the software and point of the new console.

I do hope they don't block used games though. I don't buy used games unless it for an old consoles but I know a lot of people who buy used games and I think this would have an impact on how many users buy a console if a percentage of users cant buy used games.

Thirty3Three4471d ago

The nextbox won't if this is included:

http://n4g.com/news/1225688...

Not to mention, if the following rumors are true, it won't look good AT ALL:

1) Blocks used games
2) Weaker the PS4 (I know, but it actually does count)
3) Can't match up with the Vita/Gaikai/PS4 thing.

Sony's customers are going to be able to play PS1/2/3/4 games on the go. Not so sure what you're gonna do about that, M$. Well, unless you go and shell out a handheld in less than 6 months. I mean, we can't play on a 'touch screen smart glass'...

BitbyDeath4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Sounds like the mandatory internet connection check is to block used games. Why else would it be required for simply loading a game? (If true of course)

JoySticksFTW4470d ago

WTF?! I'm not calling ANYONE "Sweet Billy"

From that reddit link...

"I worked with this guy when he was at Fox Interactive. He was easily the biggest douche I've ever worked with in any industry.

He demanded people call him by his nickname : "Sweet Billy". Literally would ignore you and be a total dick if you called him by his first name.

I was wondering why the PR for the new Xbox from both dev and fan perspective is in the shit until I read this post. This guy is impossible to work with so it totally makes sense now."

and another post...

"Guys this looks actually legit, look at this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

GAF post by him back in 07, his account name is sweet billy.
LOL
EDIT: credit to detective GAF :)"

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OlgerO4471d ago

I already pre-ordered my PS4, but im sure that this is not actually true. Im confident that we are going to get 2 amazing next gen systems, that will propel gaming into the future.

BlackTar1874471d ago

where did you preorder with no price?

4lc4pon34471d ago

one amazing nextgen system. one half ass console KinectBox 2.0 "Always Kinected" will fail

OlgerO4470d ago

@Blacktar I pre-ordered on a Dutch internet store for 600 Euro. they will change the price when it has been announced

BlackTar1874470d ago

Thanks olgerO

I don't know who disagrees with me sometimes i feel like its N4g.com employees wo get paid to do that stuff.

Anyways again thanks for the response.

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aviator1894471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

If ms knows what's good for them and their consumers and have paid good attention to that sim city mess, they'll know better than to do something like this.

asmith23064471d ago

I don't know why people disagreed with you, you're right. Always online is such a retarded idea. Then again, MS going with more of a casual focus over the core was a retarded idea too but that didn't stop them.

Kurt Russell4470d ago

The always on will make or break what console I buy. I rent property and move fairly often. Getting an internet connection hooked up in the UK can take over a month, a month I would want to spend playing single player games offline. Always on wouldn't be convenient for me personally.

JamieL4470d ago

I agree, I just really don't see how in their right minds they think this will fly. I like the 360 a lot, I've been called a MS fanboy on this site more than once and I don't know if I want a gaming console that I couldn't play at all, without an internet connection. I just don't see why they would completely cut out many potential buyers off the top that may not even have an internet connection. It just doesn't make any sense to me at all. Maybe as a onetime thing to get a game to activate, or who knows, but I think it would be a mistake for them to require a internet connection just to play games, I mean without an internet connection it’s completely useless? How could anyone ever think that’s a good idea?

Jek_Porkins4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

More rumors, hopefully we get everything sorted out soon and can stop with the nonstop rumor mill, these are starting to get a bit old, especially when the actual consoles aren't in anyone's hands yet.

Godmars2904471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

Except this is something MS can wholly gloss over at E3. They might come clean afterward, but anyone hearing about the system from the public press is going to kind up being blind-sided.

Edit:
Yes. Yes they can. They just have to ignore it in the public press. They certainly wont be bringing it up in advertising. Not unless they're doing as I expect and throwing in with cable providers. Offer the console as part of a package/leasing deal with a cable/internet subscription.

Jek_Porkins4471d ago (Edited 4471d ago )

I think from E3 until November is too short a time to just cover up something like that, they will have to let people know up front.

I highly doubt this, I doubt most of the rumors around the next Xbox, especially when there hasn't been a credible source at all, bottom line is that nobody knows, it is true the dev kits might have an always online feature so Microsoft can keep track of them for potential leaks, it could be nothing but false reporting, we don't know at this point.

BitbyDeath4471d ago

'especially when there hasn't been a credible source'

MS had a guy arrested for leaking information. You don't really get much more credible than that.

Eamon4471d ago

I highly doubt this. It would be suicidal.

Daves4471d ago

As far as I'm aware, it's true.

Which is a shame, as when I was younger (much) I'd take my C64 and then later Amiga round to a friends to play. Maybe it would be the same for kids today.

Well that would be awkward if you didn't understand networking (at all) or there was not connection.

JeffGUNZ4471d ago

what do you mean as far as you are aware? MS hasn't even announced the existence of the system, yet you're aware? There is a wise saying, "Don't believe everything you read on the internet." Especially from so called "journalists" who are screaming for hits. It's not too much over half the people on the 360 have live, why on earth would they do that? There is still no creditable information that makes this viable.

Daves4470d ago

I can't say how I'm 'aware'.

T24470d ago

I have yet to see a major rumour unconfirmed with these systems ... Pretty much every ps4 rumour was true ... All the good ones, unfortunately for microsoft

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy012d ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN1d 3h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga1d 2h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6381d 1h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein1d ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

GamerRN19h ago

Majority of Gamepass users are currently on console...

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crazyCoconuts1d 1h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark1d 12h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent752d ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d 21h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai4d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher3d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor3d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde3d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z2d ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey862d ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer7d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30007d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer7d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger7d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30007d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole6d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto7d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing697d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif7d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing697d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif7d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot7d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast7d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts7d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto7d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos7d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo6d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner6d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18816d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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