Nathan Manning, Editor for AnalogAddictio, expresses his concerns for the Microsoft's next console.
You should worry. I have decided not to buy the next Xbox. It's clear to me that MS don't care about the hardcore gamers like myself. All they want are the casuals now. They won't fool me twice. I'm tired of just Halo and Gears and those kiddy Kinect shovel ware games don't interest me. MS lost the hardcore this gen and that's why they are in last place and I don't see the next Xbox being a hit with the hardcore. @Walker But if I can buy those same "many hardcore and triple-a" multi plat titles on my PS4 then why would I buy an Xbox 720. Like the author and myself said the Xbox needs more hardcore exclusives. Kinect Sesamestreet and Kinect Disneyland don't count.
Many hardcore and triple-a titles are on the way for next generation xbox . donot worry:).
I do think they may bring some new exclusive IP for the Next gen Xbox. I really want some good new hardcore exclusive games.
I heard the same 3 years ago and the same about hardcore Kinect titles. It turned out to be just a lie from Microsoft. I'm not wasting my money again. They lost all credibility in my eyes.
There will be hardcore games I'm sure of that but the question is how much focus Microsoft give there. Their software output might not effect the majority of Xbox fanboys but it looks bad compared to their competitor's offerings for average gamers. For every piece of shovelware they put out on Kinect those could be resources used for a long lost sequel. For every contract signed for timed DLC/exclusives that could be money well invested in new IPs. Then you have the heavier focus on making it into an entertainment device rather then a gaming device. Pachter might agree with it but I don't believe gamers will. Microsoft are actually the ones in danger of making the most mistakes because they have the least experience in launching hardware. They are an American company in an American mind set and that will bite them in the rear next time. I am sure of that.
Meh, Microsoft will spend more time this E3 rambling on about it's entertainment features than the great exclusives that will be coming out this year with the console. I hope they prove me wrong but I've lost faith in Microsoft as a company that caters to it's hardcore gaming fanbase. If they do take this approach, I really hope it bites them in the ass.. they'll probably throw so much money at marketing the console that it would be near impossible for it to fail. Still, can only hope that by not focusing on the ones most likely to be early adopters, will bite them in the ass and force them to appreciate the real gamers a bit more.
How many times do I have to post this! Microsoft have spent the last 18 months buying up first party talent. They own 21 first party studios. That's 9 more than Sony. If you look into those studios, they are all developing games for next gen, many of which are new IP. That doesn't mean they'll be amazing, it's largely an unknown as all but 6-7 are new studios but for me, it shows MS are trying to fix one of the fair criticisms aimed at them over the last few years. I think we should wait until e3 to judge where they are heading. You may well be right, but I have a genuine feeling a lot of people around here will be surprised.
What do people honestly expect out of the next Xbox? I'm legit curious. It's not like Microsoft have acquired any new developers to call their own. They have 343 but you could bet Microsoft will keep them on Halo. It's not like they bought Epic (Epic themselves said the Xbox division can't afford them). It's not like they've been building a strong 1st party lineup. They could have bought THQ and made Saints Row, Metro, and Darksiders exclusive to Xbox. If they'd done this, I'd easily purchase the next Xbox. For now, all we have to go by is that they'll be as good as they were this gen. DLC, Kinect, Halo, and Gears (if it doesn't go multiplatform as Epic owns the IP). It really does seem like they've changed their ways. Their "better with Kinect" commercials should worry all Xbox fanatics.
As a gamer that's owned both the original giant and the 360 at both of their launch windows, I actually believe MS is in it's best position to deliver the goods than they ever have been. MS is in the driver's seat of it's own destiny at this point. Xbox Live is going to be huge for the early adopters. MS just needs to keep improving it at the same clip that they have this gen. EVERY system relies on it's go-to franchises when the move onto the next gen. In MS case they had the #1 selling hardcore exclusive franchise this gen among it's big games. In this department, MS has the anchor it needs to improve upon next gen. As for the system itself, regardless of whether the rumors of specs are true, MS clearly took the next system seriously and it will be more powerful than the 360. How powerful is up in the air. It's going to be fun to see what comes out of E3, but I like what I'm hearing so far out of that camp. Evil
@ Enemy. At least give credit where it's due. Microsoft have actually strengthened their first party by opening up new studios and partnering with others, which is one of the points which we've been driving for a while. Whether the developers will deliver is another matter entirely.
I just remembered an article that published by a reputed business website when the first XBOX launched. I do not remember the website today but the article made a very important prediction which I still remember because it is becoming true. The author said that MS was using XBOX as a trojan horse to take over the living rooms. They will introduce it as a games console, slowly introduce other functionalities, develop it into a fully functional media hub and in the end abandon or put gaming in the background. It sounded so far-fetched at the time but amazingly today it is becoming a reality. IMO the next XBOX is the final stage of the plan MS put into action several years ago.
" I do think they may bring some new exclusive IP for the Next gen Xbox. I really want some good new hardcore exclusive games. " But Microsoft dumped most of their development teams and care more about third party games now. They won't get many exclusives that way.
TO be honest nobody knows what to expect from MS! They can either come out hard fighting it's criticisms or keep going the way they are going. It appears to me as if something happened when the rrod, Peter Moore quitting episode happened. People can judge MS all they want but I will give them the benefit of the doubt even though I've felt let down for the past few years. They've added new studios and still offer the best console online gaming experience for me. Exclusives like Halo don't matter as long as they keep improving (yes I want more exclusives)the game. Tons of games are under the MS umbrella with more coming. All the hate will be here no matter what by the same people that strictly back there preference. NO matter what MS does they will complain it's not good enough. At the end of the day I'm just happy to be a gamer. What ever console you like more power to you.
If they make online play free on the Xbox Next, I'll probably pick it up. Definitely not falling for the LIVE scam again.
@ DOMination: Microsoft has Rare, Lionhead, Turn 10 and 343. Those are the only studios that make non-kinekt AAA disc based games.They can own a thousand studios for all I care. If they only make downloadable mini-games or kinekt games then it's pointless for the hard core gamers. Here's a link for you to check for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
woah, a Sony fanboy saying he won't buy anything other than a Sony console. Damn that's the first time I've ever seen this.
No offence but saying your not going to buy it with a giant PSN plus logo as your avatar speaks volumes. Wait till it is released. I am less inclined, at the moment, to buy it but I am not ruling it out just yet
I wouldn't rule it out either but I don't like region locked systems and I definitely don't like paying for basic online. They'd have to change those two things and get a bunch of great exclusives. I have nothing against Xbox specifically of course.
@ElectricKaibutsu Just FYI, there has been no mention that the PS4 will be region free. It may be, it may not.
@Leviathan: Blind ignorance. Im well aware of that article. How do you know they are all kinect or downloadable games? Their projects haven't been revealed. Yes they have two casual studios and no doubt they will continue with the type if games you mention but then so does Sony. There's no evidence to suggest what you're saying. MS Redmond, MS LA, Press Play, Black Task, MS Victoria, MS Soho, Twisted Pixel, platform Next Studios, Connected Experiences and Lift are all working on new untitled projects. But if you want to keep believing they are all developing kinect shareware then you do that and we will see at e3.
A lot of people - even people like you who SWEAR they won't touch the Nextbox - will buy it anyway. That's because Microsoft always does an excellent job marketing their new products. NextBox will launch. The journalists will shout about how it is revolutionary, how it is the best console ever. You'll see endless articles titled "10 Reasons the NextBox is better than the PS4/WiiU". You'll see familiar franchises like Halo, Gears, Forza, and...oh? What's this? Some brand-new IP exclusive shooter? Or RPG? Or open-world game? Maybe a new Killer Instinct finally? Maybe another Banjo game? What?!? "Oh man, you HAVE to try this out" says the internet. You will get excited. You will doubt your apprehension. And then Microsoft will come out with some sort of deal, like "Sign up for 2 years of LIVE and get $100 off the NextBox". And you'll buy it. For the first two or three years, you'll be very happy. You'll write a blog post about how "I'm glad I was wrong about the NextBox." You'll gush about all the games you're enjoying. And this will last for the first two or three years. Then, the exclusives will die down. No, not immediately. It will slowly trickle down. But you'll tell yourself "It's okay" because Microsoft will update the NextBox dashboard for free, or they'll announce some exclusive DLC for GTA6 or Fallout 4. You'll start to doubt again, but you won't get rid of your NextBox. No, you already have too much invested. Then, the hardcore support will REALLY drop off, and you'll be saying what you're saying now: "Man, I will never buy another Xbox again. Microsoft has tricked me for the last time".
Well said. It will be exactly the same with history repeating itself. People need to open their eyes and see through the marketing schemes. USA I'm looking at you.
Sounds like my feelings throughout xbox 360s history, started off great, started going sour and now it's just pathetic. Only 360 only game I bought last year was Halo 4 and even that turned out to be a disappointment in the end and the developers taking over four months to release a balancing patch.
Not happening man, I'll wait 2+ years before I buy the nextbox what they did this gen was inexcusable. I'll only get it if live is free and they have atleast 10 exclusives I like.
Yes "exclusive" DLC for GTA 6 and Fallout 4 just like the "exclusive" DLC for GTA 4 and Fallout 3..
Couldn't have said it better myself. M$ is king of marketing, look at how they shoved there way into consoles with the original Xbox.
This is the excuse Sony fanboys are going to be prepping up if the 720 or nextbox or whatever is called, launches with a killer line-up. In reality, what has happened this generation is that the 360 has had an abundance of games and fanboys on here are quick to downplay the quality of the killer apps the 360 has whilst ignoring the sheer quality and strength of the multiplats on offer.
lol Strongman, you've never had an Xbox let's not lie. you're the one that going to be missing out on all the great new games on the 720. But hey you'll still find a way to spin shit into a negative way because that's what happens when you're loyal to a piece of plastic. lolol
I think it's just a case of wait and see what they do before buying. I will no doubt buy a PS4 because they have supported the hardcore gamer every step of the way on every Sony console so that's a no brainer. But I'm on the fence with the WiiU and the next Xbox because they seemed to forget about the gamers and put all of their resources into the casual market. If they support the hardcore gamer as well as the casuals then I'll no doubt purchase them both. It's all about the games and I want Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony to deliver.
@aiBreeze Unless they're all developing next gen Kinect games...
You don't even have an Xbox 360, you have stalked a lot of my posts and even sent me messages hating on everything Microsoft and Nintendo. We get it, you love Sony. You even gave me some bogus Xbox Live Gamertag that you probably didn't expect me to check. That being said, the next Xbox is exciting for a lot of reasons. The main reason is that Microsoft knows how to kick off a console generation. Looking back at the original Xbox and the Xbox 360's launch, they both had AMAZING lineups. Judging by the fact that most of Microsoft 20 odd first party studios haven't been doing anything with the 360 in over 3 years, it's a safe bet that they've been working on the next Xbox. Including Black Tusk's new core title, and we know Rare is working on at least 2 new games, one of which is supposed to be a first person shooter. Of course it'll launch with Kinect 2.0, but as an option it shouldn't worry anyone, in 2012 Microsoft had the most core lineup of the big 3. If you are going with Sony that is fine, but don't sit there and lie like you were ever going to buy an Xbox 360 or try to get people to hate blindly like you do.
Yea they kick off this generation with great new IPs no doubt but that's where Microsoft failed with the 360. They changed the dash board stopped supporting new IPs just doing sequels and spinoffs to well established games lot of the 360 fans love...Than comes Kinect shoving it down user base throats and increasing the price of Live. Casuals first Hardcore second its going to be the same old song and dance next gen with 720 M$ cant cater to both sides.
@ StrongMan I don't comment much on these articles, but I am always logged in checking this site out. Every time I see your name it's on an Xbox article hating. I don't go on to your beloved Playstation articles hating... now do I? It's called respect.
@Strong Hmph not to sound like a troll but Sony had a allot of failed Ips this gen. Other than UE, infamous and LBP and Heavy Rain what other game was super successful on PlayStation? Soccom and MAG failed/shutdown Socom's not even a new Ip it was a highly rated PS2 Ip, Resistance despite having 3 games and the third being the highest rated failed. Haze failed, MotorStom failed/shutdown Warhawk failed/Studio fell apart/ twisted metal 50 50