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Microsoft on April NPD Results: Xbox Leads U.S. Software Game Sales

"April NPD Group figures released today showed that Xbox One continues to lead in software sales with the most cumulative units sold for any eighth generation home console platform life-to-date. Combined, Xbox One and Xbox 360 held eight of the top 10 spots on the generation eight and generation seven console game lists in the U.S. And, Xbox One continues to outpace Xbox 360 sales in the same historical time period by selling over 76 percent more units in the first six months on the market.

Xbox One sold 115,000 units in the U.S. in the month of April and has outpaced Xbox 360 sales by 76 percent in the first six months on the market.

Xbox 360 continues to grow its install base with 71,000 units sold in April in the U.S., more than any other seventh generation console."

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ape0073633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

TitanFall in my humble opinion is the best online game i played since CoD4/Mw2 and the best "nextgen" game yet along with SM3DW, the game is just amazing, flows like magic, vintage old IW/Respawn

Second Son is too an good game, glad to see SP game sell well

no matter how i love online, im an Old School SP guy

a great SP > great mp but online is awesome

Gazondaily3633d ago

Interesting that the X1 is leading in software but not hardware.

"Xbox One continues to lead in software sales with the most cumulative units sold for any eighth generation home console platform life-to-date."

Bonkerz3633d ago

Xbox One has better games which leads to more software sales. Only thing that is really worthy atm on PS4 is Infamous, and its only a SP game so the used copies probably killed it. MLB is a complete mess, horrendous MP, load times are a joke, its just not good.

Kayant3633d ago

Not surprising they do have more retail exclusives and big TF sales. Probably will continue for a while.

I do wish we could get by how much it is leading by.

georgeenoob3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

It's great MS recognizes how vibrant and supportive their gamers are. That's why they're so confident in putting gamers first.

Congrats Microsoft. Well deserved.

Gazondaily3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

I have to say, for all those that tried to downplay Titanfall and how it benefitted the X1, if anything, this shows just how crucial and instrumental it has been in making the Xbox One appear competitive in these tough times.

Imagine if it didn't have Titanfall and got merked on hardware AND software.

If MS continue to bring on the games in this strong fashion, THIS combined with the Kinectless Xbox (now we definitely know why they dropped it), we might see a bitter fight for hardware domination, at least in the USA, at the end of this year.

All speculation though. The question is, has Sony gained too much momentum in the meantime?

tbone5673633d ago

Xbox 360 hitting beast mode right now. 9 out 10 best sellers. Too many people are currently satisfied with their 360. Will move to X1 in the future.

izumo_lee3633d ago

I think the reason for this is that many PS4 gamers may be taking the digital option. Alot of PS4 games are only digital.

I for one have downloaded more games than i have bought physically on the PS4. Dead Nation, FF 14, towerfall, Warframe, Outlast, etc some of the games i own digitally.

Also downloading these games are extremely fast for the PS4, some even you are able to play when it has downloaded parts of the game.

04STIBluByU3633d ago

@ Septic:

Please stop saying games...It was 1 game TF... not many games...just TF...which is a SHOOTER...those tend to sell very well on XB consoles. So just hope you get more shooters I guess.

aceitman3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

@bonkers not correct ,ill leave this right here 4 u. http://vgrhq.com/ps4-vs-xbo...

MysticStrummer3633d ago

"Xbox One has better games which leads to more software sales."

http://vgrhq.com/ps4-vs-xbo...

darthv723633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

Not surprising Septic. When you think about it...that is all anyone can do on the xb1 is "buy" games.

On PS4 they "give" you games with PS+.

@mystic...how many of those games on both lists are 8th gen specific? Certainly not Fez, flower or Rayman legends......

kreate3633d ago

I'm pretty satisfied with the 360. just wish there was more new games to play. so I'm playing old ones, which is also great.

NatureOfLogic_3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

From Neogaf:

360:

April 2006 - 295K

April 2007 - 174K

April 2008 - 188K

April 2009 - 175K

April 2010 - 185K

April 2011 - 297K

April 2012 - 236K

April 2013 - 130K

Xbox One:

April 2014 - 115K

Correction: This is Xbox worst April since they discontinued the original Xbox.

KwietStorm_BLM3633d ago

I'm not making any definitive statement, but realistically, you could buy a PS4, not purchase a single game, and still have like 10 games to play, especially if you include PS+. Maybe that's where a chunk of the difference is. All these people who keep saying PS4 has no games, DON'T EVEN OWN A PS4.

Bathyj3633d ago

Given the popularity on online shooters, its no surprise the TF is leading. TF is very much a game catered to Xbones demographic.

But even given that popularity, and even without a huge mega-selling game, more gamers are preferring PS4.

I dont think the NPD results for software OR hardware are surprising to anyone, or at least to me.

ma1asiah3633d ago

@ aceitman and MysticStrummer,

Now take out the mutiplat titles and indie or arcade games for both platforms, then see if you still stand by who has the better games especially Triple A titles wise

http://vgrhq.com/ps4-vs-xbo...

MysticStrummer3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

@darth - "how many of those games on both lists are 8th gen specific? Certainly not Fez, flower or Rayman legends…"

You "forgot" Titanfall. Much of the list for both consoles is cross gen, so I'm not sure what your point is.

@ma1asiah - They're all games man. If you have to start excluding games to make your point then how much of a point do you really have? Last gen several of those allegedly non-games were legit GotY candidates, and some even won the award, so please let's drop this "Only the games I say are games are actually games" argument.

darthv723633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

@argumentum...

Where is the April 2014 360 numbers? You list every year but this one so lets see if what MS says is true or false.

It's the best April for the XB1 so far. How about we just go with that???

@mystic, my point is people buy a new console to play new games. Not ones that are old and made new again (Fez, Flower). New games released on the 8th gen first. If they were released prior to the 8th then they shouldnt count.

but hey, you like the list so go play with your list. I'm going to go play with games.

Skips3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

@ma1asiah

From that list...

Retail PS4 games that can't be played on Xbone:
Final Fantasy XIV (87)
MLB: 14 The Show (83)
Infamous Second Son (80)
Injustice (80)

vs.

Retail games that can't be played on PS4:
Titanfall (86)
Forza 5 (80)
Dead Rising 3 (78)
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (77)

lol not sure what your points is, PS still beats Xbone in scores for retail. And not to mention in numbers WHEN adding in indies, and downloadables.... XD

Biggest3633d ago

Did you guys not read the releases? Infamous, not Titanfall, was the leader in software sales for current generation consoles. Titanfall sold the most software when combining 360, PC and Xbone.

Muerte24943633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

IF you look at the report. The Xbox 360 is actually leading in software. Everything next gen has PS4 outselling Xbox One, generally.

http://abload.de/img/titanf...

Also "-Infamous was the best selling next-gen game. (As in, in terms of only counting sales of games on XB1/PS4/probably Wii U, this game sold the best if you ignored all other sales.)"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

So.... yeah, there's that.
Funny thing is VGChartz, that people keep posting so much, had Xbox One taking April in America +50k. Just more evidence of how off their numbers continue to be.
Skips IS BACKKKKKK!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!

ma1asiah3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

@ Skips

My point is that the number of critically acclaimed games comes down to being relatively the same - meaning neither console is winning any type of war based off of the games you actually buy these type of consoles for. The score next to them is kind of subjective as they are "one" persons opinion in this particular case i.e. gaming journalist etc. So don't carry the same weight at the end of the day as you either agree or disgree with their opinion which no matter what your own opinion would be well neither answer would be incorrect.

I asked to take out multiplats as these appear on both consoles and outside of graphical differences the game you play is pretty much still the same.

I asked to take out indie and arcade titles simply because even though they may offer the most unique and innovative experience, they are not the main reason you buy a four or five hundred dollar console for.

I am yet to find someone who says "man you have to buy console "x" for Rosogun or Max The Curse of Brotherhood etc. Normally the games we get most hyped for etc are the Triple A blockbuster titles that you can't play on an Android, IPad or Tablet.

One thing I will add in respect of your list is your inclusion of "Injustice" yes it is exclusive to the PS4 but at the same time it is a visually retooled port of the Xbox 360 PS3 game for the most part so I am not really sure it actually counts.

MLB The show is a sports game, not really what I personally would consider a Triple A franchise in the same way I don't consider Madden or FIFA, NBA2K etc Triple A franchises. Yet hey everyone to their own, plus to be fair I probably wouldn't consider Plants vs Zombies GW a Triple A game.

AceBlazer133633d ago

http://goo.gl/51Ro2R

Safe to assume a lot of ps gamers are buying digital.

DoubleM703633d ago

It's been that way for a very long time @septic. Xbox owners buy games. Everybody I know have KI, DR3, TitanFall. Not to mention all the multiplats.

OrangePowerz3633d ago

@George

Lol MS putting gamers first, that's the best joke for today so far. You always crack me up just like Truefan1 or powerofgreen. You just should get a youtube comedy channel :)

OT

all the sales numbers are retail so it doesn't include any digital sales and that counts for both platforms. Out of 18 or so games I have 4 retail games and the rest are digital games.

Prime1573633d ago

Does anyone know if npd takes into account digital sales? Xblive vs psn sales would be interesting to see if they aren't in npd.

DaGamingKing3633d ago

Tells me XB1 is where the games are at. Those others out there just need to realise that. Perhaps now its cheaper folks will. One can hope.

ma1asiah3633d ago

@ Prime157

No only sales from retail, so ALL digital sales are not reflected in these figures.

SilentNegotiator3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

http://www.joystiq.com/2014...
http://www.engadget.com/201...

Gee...how did Microsoft push so much software in April?? /s

alexkoepp3633d ago

Xbox has the best games, no surprise. You find a much greater quantity of -$ony fans on this site because M$ fans are busy playing all those great games they buy.

BG115793633d ago

These number are showing something funny.
When MS pesented their vision of gaming, they wanted to force their costumers to go all digital. They public reacted negatively and MS kind of changed their policy.
Wirh Sony, there was nothing of that. They said, you either play from the bluray or the disk.
Guest which of the compagnies sell more digital content? Weird right? Sony seemed to have actained tge perfect balance between digital and physical content sales.

Death3633d ago

It's funny how so many assume Sony sold digital games to make up the differance yet ignore the fact Microsoft sells digital too. I bought Titanfall digitally since it's online only.

NewMonday3633d ago

@Septic

XB1 has more retail games, but PS4 has about twice the games tatal with PSN games that don't get tracked.

as for Titanfall it's actually about people over-hyping the game and saying it will make XB1 the top seller those people are proven wrong, those who disagreed are proven right.

Clown_Syndr0me3633d ago

The only game I bought new this gen is Titanfall, as I preordered it.
All my PS4 games were bought used as they were either singleplayer or I bought them a while after release.
As someone said, alot of people have played Infamous but there is ALOT of copies avaliable pre-owned, as it is only single player a lot of people dont hang on to it.

t-hall7853633d ago

How is that interesting. Xbox gamers GAME. Sony gamers troll N4G

FriedGoat3633d ago

Wow, interesting stuff.
Xbox one has really sold that badly in April that it's being compared to the original xbox? That's crazy.

To think the Xbox360's worst april was 130K (and that was last year). No wonder they got rid of Kinect if they are only getting 115k :(

RosweeSon3633d ago

Well if you've bought the console your gonna buy games surely, specially as Microsoft won't give any away.

Nachoman303632d ago

It's simply a marketing spin, notice it says XBOX not xbox one. It is combined software sales.

BlackTar1873632d ago

lol at that list of game scores

90+ on PS4: 3

90+ on Xbox One: 1

80+ on PS4: 18

80+ on Xbox One: 8

andibandit3632d ago

Someone explain to me why Sony customers would be more inclined to buy digital copies?.

Also even tho they have rougly the same number of games available, the only game i would really like to play on PS is Infamous:ss, where as i would really like to try TF and DR3 on X1.

The only sensible comment on here was some guy who mentioned that Sony customers get some games (almost) free, which is why they havent been so keen on spending money.

Lightning Mr Bubbles3632d ago

XBOX One is leading in software basically because of Titanfall. That's about it.

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mikeslemonade3633d ago

^at the title

So.. what? Worldwide install base is everything and for that matter PS4 leads Worldwide software.

Death3633d ago

So...what? I still enjoy my Xbox One and WiiU even though they aren't "winning" worldwide in sales. Some actually care more about games than sales.

XisThatKid3632d ago

This is great news This gen may be the most successful if all this keeps up. Pee in the eye to all who thought consoles were dying.

GarrusVakarian3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

115k X1's sold in April?

.....

Last month it was 311k.

That is a huge drop.

It's also pretty embarrassing seeing them constantly reference the 360 when talking about the X1. This is next-gen now, the X1's numbers should stand on their own. You shouldn't need to mention, and make comparisons, to an 8 year old console to damage control your current consoles numbers.

@bleed

In their March NPD report.

bleedsoe9mm3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

when did ms release 311k number for march ?

edit: @Kayant ya sorry Lukas_Japonicus , did they go back and release that number , i thought they just gave out the overall shipped number , my bad

DLConspiracy3633d ago

Pretty sure that number will rise after E3.

4Sh0w3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

Not really Lukas, last gen sony referenced ps2 sales alot in the early years of ps3. That's what you do, talk about your strengths, 360 is making them lots of money.

Nov 2008 NPD sales response from sony:
"Total PlayStation Hardware Unit Sales in November 2008 Top 1 Million"

"PlayStation®2 (PS2) and the LEGO Batman: The Videogame PS2 Entertainment Pack posted solid sales in November, with 205,944 hardware units sold, a 51% increase from the previous month."
http://kotaku.com/5108011/s...

-Anyways interesting to see how long Titanfall can lead sales even though X1 is behind.

Kayant3633d ago

@bleedsoe9mm

"Xbox One continues selling at a strong pace with 311,000 units sold in the U.S."
http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...

MysticStrummer3633d ago

MS on April NPD : Have you SEEN 360?

darthv723633d ago

Lukas, Ms has been following sonys lead for some time. That includes the release of information. MS can now use combined data very much like sony has been for years.

Every time sony touts their achievements its always using the combined efforts of all their platforms. go back and watch any of their past e3 events and you will see how they combine data. basically saying Playstation (in general) this or that is leading the way.

If people are going to call foul on MS for doing this then do we get a do over to call foul on sony? Hell i dont even think nintendo combines figures unless it is platform related. Meaning DS as in ds, dsi dslite for example.

Kidmyst3632d ago

With the June price drop announcement, May could be pretty low since consumers may just wait for June and after E3. Congrats to Sony and Sucker Punch for the great sales.

Saigon3632d ago

I am wondering, has anyone noticed that the top sale for titan fall was for the 360 and not the XBO. Within the NPD though they list the games, they also place in order of sales. TF XBO sales were number 2 out of 3 systems that its available. Not saying that this is bad but many people are talking as though the XBO TF sales lead last month.

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osprey193633d ago

This just proves that the xb1 has the better games, despite the ps4 out selling the xb1 atm, the xb1 still sells more games. The ps4 only has a small handfull of half decent games, while xb1 has plenty, and plenty yet to come.

jessupj3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

Or it could be a lot to do with PSN+ and actual free to play games that aren't held prisoner behind a paywall.

You know how many games I've bought for my PS4 after getting BF4 including in my console bundle?

Zero.

Why you ask?

Because I've been way to busy with Resogun, Don't Starve, Outlast, Mercenary Kings, WarFrame, DC:O... I think I'm forgetting a few as well.

I fully intend to play all the other amazing PS4 exclusives like KZ and Infamous amoung others, but PSN+ has just kept me way too busy.

Also, you're forgetting this is the US and as I'm sure you've been told a million times before, but somehow need to be told again, the US does not equal the world.

Good day sir.

HeavenlySnipes3633d ago

I wouldn't definitively agree but I wouldn't say its not arguable

Titanfall is a strong MP game, and unless there are a multitude of people like me who like Killzone, there isn't much choice on the MP side of things on the PS4 (I didn't buy BF4 on the PS4 because of how buggy I heard it STILL was and COD: Ghosts is trash). InFamous is a fun game, but it lasted me about 20 hours

The free to play games are alright, none of them are stuff that could get hooked to (maybe DC Universe but I had already reached near max level on my PS3 a while ago) so my purchase and I'm guessing the purchases the majority of people have made are based on potential.

We all know Sony's first party studios and their quality thresholds that they hit nearly every time. I'm confident that the PS4 will be a gaming powerhouse by next fall at the very latest

kenshiro1003633d ago

LOL, @ XB1 has the better games.

On what planet?

jkendrick3633d ago

Wow all these Xbox can't read or choosing not to comprehend. Infamous outsold titan fall on the Xbox 1. I guess you have to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Keep hope alive, keep hope a live!

Gamerbynight3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

I wish npd counted digital sales as I know so many people who purchased Titan Fall on xboxone digitally and they do not get counted. I would bet ms sold close to half of its transactions for titanfall digitally. This gen its going to be hard to get true numbers until npd catches up with the times and starts recording all sales. I would think that ms and sony would know what they sold and announce it with added on sales. Either they are not selling as well as I thought or they are waiting for e3 to show the dominance that Titan Fall has shown on the platforms its on considering it is a brand new ip. Either way congrats to sony for moving hardware and congrats to ms on the software side. This will be a fun gen for all gamers on all machines if we can get along and quit bashing one another because you do not like the choice THEY made. The majority of the conversations on here do not belong on n4g and the same with neogaf they belong on the Ny or Toyko stock exchange or maybe Forbes but not here unless were all investors and make a living on the health of these platforms. My point is were fricking gamers and maybe we should have the open zone back as it worked so much better for people who are not here to talk or learn about games but to troll and fight. Just a thought.

Ju3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

Better games...huh...which then is reduced to TF ... which again (considering next gen only) was outsold by inFamous in April.

PS4 has 5 shooters - KZ, BF4, CoD + Blacklight & Warframe while XO has 2, BF and CoD. So, yes, there are less shooters on that platform and less competition. Of course there is some need to have YAS, obviously, because the 'platform with the games' (/s) has no shooters to begin with.

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dicemoney3633d ago

Happy for you now move out the way

ape0073632d ago

thanks a lot, yeah a grown man got angry because of games :)

no wonder they call gamers man childern

quenomamen3633d ago

Titanfall is anything but a " Nextgen " game.

beereal3603633d ago

I totally agree with you. It's no surprise the xbox one is kicking butt in the USA . I just think the xbox one is better than my PS4.

medman3633d ago

Most gamers just laugh at Microsoft at this point....they get hammered in hardware and software and have been trying to spin that into a win for months, really since launch. Good luck with that. The rest of us are gaming on the better console with the better first party developers with indies and psplus. Oh, and the better multiplayer experiences with more power under the hood. Good luck with all that.

Ju3633d ago

They hammerer retail chains so they could report shipments sold to at least look competitive which bites them in the a$$ now that retail is still selling overstock. LOL.

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Brazz3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

lol! 115k sales! no-Kinectic SKU need come fast!

Chartz is bullshit, they put X1 sales at over 200k!
Perhaps, the new SKU will make a great impact (or not, Ps4 will still dominate)... i can see a possibility of recover, it's possible.

edit: sorry for the edit, the first version was a bit offensive... =/

MightyNoX3633d ago

There's a reason they're called Lolchatz by some.

Brazz3633d ago

VGchartz - 217k // NPD - 115K

lol! chartz was terrible! people in gaf and Cratz foruns are going crazy!

04STIBluByU3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

VGC would be better off putting 1k every week for XB1 and then when the real numbers come out they will up those numbers instead of downgrading them. Now we know why MS went full dis-kinect!

Ju3633d ago

What? They are great for MS. Great (fake) marketing and when the real numbers are out and they have to adjust (if they even do that) those numbers are long forgotten...but it'll keep the positive M$ propaganda busy for at least 3 days or so.

press-start3633d ago

I was gonna type the same thing but you beat me to the punch vgcharts is a bag of hot steamy sssss they over tracked xbox one by 85-95k lol just to make it look as if it's close or near Overtaking ps4.

Brazz3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

they over tracked by something like 100k! this is terrible!

Ju3633d ago

Or (almost) like a 100% spread...

zeuanimals3633d ago

Were the VGchartz for US or WW? They could still be correct WW... Probably not.

Gamerbynight3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

I would say these numbers played a large part in the new sku being announced before e3. Is ms even going to have the ui updated for the new sku to work with the controller like they said by the time this new sku launches. It just kind of worries me as they are working on so many new updates for the one. I guess that is not a bad thing as I do not expect ms to keep the same ui for very long as they never do. They have to design it to work much more efficiently with the controller then it does now. I use my Kinect so I do not know how the controller currently works but I would think it would have to since ms officially cut the cord on kinect being required before launch. They had so much to change since last e3s reversal I am amazed they were able to rewrite all the code and get as much as they did at launch. Hopefully all the new features will still be coming soon as promised.

Wikkid6663633d ago

I'm not going to defend vgchartz... but NPD numbers aren't the total number of units sold. There are some major retailers that don't provide sales info to them. One example in Walmart.

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majiebeast3633d ago (Edited 3633d ago )

Sub 100K in May is pretty much a given, with the announcement of the kinectless sku. Can wiiU beat Xbox One in May that's the question.

Hellsvacancy3633d ago

The kinectless XB1 was only announced 1 or two days ago

Gamerbynight3633d ago

You would think so but maybe not. It seems a lot of people are running out and buying the kinect sku as they are scared ms is taking it away when they are not plus you have wolfenstein and watchdogs in May which will help move some consoles. I am expecting numbers fairly close to this month maybe 125000 but you just never know.

NatureOfLogic_3633d ago

I wonder how long last gen will remain relevant in MS's NPD press releases.

incendy353633d ago

8 out of 10 best selling games.. Not bad for a company that isn't about games!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7211h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1011h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos43m ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 5h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN20h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo22h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies18h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 5h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic16h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9015h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 7h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 6h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 5h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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