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The Nintendo Delusion - Good Games Don't Sell Good Consoles

Why the good games will sell Nintendo's consoles argument doesn't hold up.

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NYC_Gamer3783d ago

Nintendo should invest in some fresh/different kind of franchise if they wanna move units in the western market

Vegamyster3783d ago

To be fair they funded W101 & Bayonetta 2.

AKR3783d ago

Don't forget LEGO City: Undercover.

curtis923783d ago (Edited 3783d ago )

@Vegamyster Think he meant games that would appeal to wide market, not a niche market.

cyguration3783d ago

@curtis92

What does that even mean? Every core sector of gaming IS a niche market. Nintendo is catering toward every sector just like they said they would.

Everyone complained when Nintendo appealed mostly to a wide market with Wii Fit and Wii Sports and Wii Party during the Wii's lifespan.

Now you're saying that for the Wii U they need to go back to doing what they did with the Wii?

There's no such thing as having it both ways.

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miyamoto3783d ago (Edited 3783d ago )

To be fair W101 & Bayonetta 2 are not fresh/different kind of franchises

W101 is like Pikmin and Lemmings and Bayonetta 2 is like Bayonetta 1.

@ritsukka666

lol, you are OWNED by your own fanboyic blindness!

Wii U is a victim of Nintendo's own greed and arrogance like that dog who wanted two bones at the same time and eventually lost both- the casual and the hardcore. Right, Kinect?

Now I know why Sony won't do kiddie toddler games even if it means slow steady sales. They can not go that low to maintain an uncompromising hardcore gaming image since 1994.
Its risky but the rewards will be great in the long run!

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Thepcz3783d ago

nintendo forgot who they are and where they came from. they now think they are a games developer who makes games for mobile phone, hence the relentless wave of shallow mini games collections and party games.

nintendo forgot that to sell a console you need deep, immersive and ambitious games. ie all the games they are refusing to publish- metroid, starfox, f zero, earthbound etc

instead they are force-feeding us crap like nintendoland, wario game and watch and a years worth of luigi (WTF!?) - nintendo think the wiiu is a mobile phone and gamers only want shallow, quick fix trash to play.

nintendo are wrong (the sales figures support my claim) and its too late for them to gain back lost market share. its hilarious that the wiiu is a hd console, but nintendo dont provide any games that can match that scale of gaming. ie, all the games seem to be little more than upscaled wii games.

X is the only game that even remotely shows any promise... and that is simply not good enough.

staticdash223783d ago (Edited 3783d ago )

Finally someone that gets it. Nintendo should have invested in brand new franchises for a brand new console. People like to see new, and fresh ideas not dressed up in the same old franchises. Give gamers new characters to get attached to, new lore, and new worlds to explore.

What are they afraid of? They are making the mistake that konami is, making metal gear their face and almost dependent on its success. People just don't understand that nintendo of all publishers is the one that can take multiple risks on new projects. All that money especially stemming from the Wii's success.

ForgottenProphecy3783d ago

Waooooh. No reason to bring Metal Gear into this. Metal Gear is still awesome to this day

punishing13783d ago

I own a PS4, so let's talk about new & fresh IP...Killzone...FOUR...Battlef ield...FOUR...NFS...lost count of what version this is. They had ONE...ONE new IP...Knack. And reviews say it sucks. I bought KZ4, BF4, and NFS:R, because I love those franchises. Kinda like a bought Mario Bros, WiiU Party, 3D Land, Wario. I also bought Nintendo's new IP - W101, ZombiU, and Rayman Legends.

JohnnyTower3783d ago

The Wii U launch was a trainwreck. The only way Nintendo will get people to remember them amongst the Xbox one and PS4 is nostalgia games or kiddy-Skylander games. Look at the expectations for Super Smash Brothers and Zelda Wii U. Those are decades old franchises that are tapped to bring focus to the Wii U. Nintendo should try out some new IP's, but they shouldn't be relied on as system-movers. I love my Wii U and I play Mario 3D all the time. If anything, I would love to see a Jet Force Gemini or Eternal Darkness HD remake.

Vegamyster3783d ago

The Wii-U launch wasn't bad, the following months after where games got delayed like Pikmin 3, W101, Rayman Legends ect caused the system to stall out, sales have picked up considerably the past few months.

JohnnyTower3783d ago

The Wii U launch definitely needed some clarity as to what the Console was. The title Wii U was a little confusing. I wasn't sure if it was a tablet add-on or not. You are absolutely right about the launch games being good, but there was a lull waiting for some good games. Deus Ex filled the void nicely until Mario 3D came out. I wish Nintendo nothing but the best. And make another Eternal Darkness Dammit!

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3783d ago

Uh Wii U launch was a success. Post launch wasn't due to Rayman, Pikmin, LEGO City, TW101, Game & Wario and Deux Ex delay. Wii U sold 3.06m units in 2012.

wonderfulmonkeyman3783d ago

If the launch was a train wreck, it's mostly because the AAA third parties didn't do jack crap as far as actually making games the core audience would wanna get the Wii U for, during a time when they had very few high-quality first-party Nintendo IP's to contend with.

Chrischi19883782d ago

The launch of the console was really good. Looking at numbers, it sold as good or slightly better than the Xbox One. During this time a year ago Wii U sold around 3 million, the problems started after its launch and not during it. That is also why I am saying, that people should stop to compare launch sales with sales in like may this year.

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Dravidian3783d ago

It's a sad day when good games dont sell consoles. New ip or not. That being said, new IP's are rarely system sellers BECAUSE the casual gamer has never heard of it. The few lucky ones usually have great sales on their next game or two and my be system sellers, but by definition they're no longer a new i.p. at that point. Very few have ridiculous sales or sell consoles on the first try.

ritsuka6663783d ago (Edited 3783d ago )

I feel you pain dude. I love supporting devs like Platinum Games, they are doing their best to make new IPs, but get overshadowed by an overrated videogame casual games. it's really sad times for us harcore gamers.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno8d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."