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Microsoft’s Xbox One wins early sales battle on Black Friday

Microsoft’s Xbox One was the most popular video game console on Black Friday, according to a survey of early shoppers by shopping market research firm InfoScout.

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Enemy3799d ago

If true, then that's because the PS4 sold out a long time ago. There were still Xbones in stores available for purchase.

Abash3799d ago

Yup, I dont think Sony could readily supply US retailers with PS4s on black friday considering they launched the PS4 in Europe the very same day

UltimateMaster3799d ago

A shit ton of people would have bought a PS4, if they could.
It's all sold out and Sony is releasing PS4 in Europe.

Told them to start shipping out the first batch of PS4 in August, not this late, buy they didn't listen. Oh well.

xHeavYx3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

This is only a 3000 survey Target and Wal-Mart.
The 2 biggest video game stores in America /s

GutZ313799d ago

In North Carolina at least, Target had 0 PS4's this Black Friday.

I can't say about the rest of the US, but I know Walmart had a bit of stock, but quickly ran out. Gamestop seemed to be the only ones that overstocked a bit on both systems, as even at 3AM, people were bringing in PS4's and XboxOnes.

Sharky2313799d ago

I was at my local gamestop at mid night on Black Friday. The total before I left was 15 PS4 to 0 Xbox one. They did sell one 360 though! I feel this survey could be full of sh*t!

ovnipc3799d ago

Why hate so much on xbox. Both consoles are great and selling well. We need both competition its good we as gamers benefit from ms and sony to compete and make better games and better experience.

Prime1573799d ago

The store I work at had 27 ps4s and 29 xbones. By 3am we sold all ps4 and only 8 xbones. By 8pm, we still had about 7 or 8 left from what I was told (I worked midnight to 8am.

HammadTheBeast3799d ago

@Heavy

So you honestly believe that the X360 and PS3 would've sold more if PS4,s had actually been available?

mikeslemonade3799d ago

SMH at the disagrees. I don't care about disagrees for personal vendettas but I just think those people are dumb because they actually believe in this spin. Yea the X1 sold more but like everyone else said the PS4 was out of supply. There were no PS4s avalible at Best Buy all day, but part of the midnight mystery was the X1 was in stock.

maddskull3799d ago

i think that this survey is just lies even if you look at the numbers the xboxes are the same and the playstations are the same and the xbox one won by 1%

gaffyh3799d ago

Sample size is too small, it is based on a survey of 3000 people at random. At least NPD is based on actual sales in a few stores and then extrapolated from there.

Gekko363799d ago

I don't think anyone other than internet gremlins like us really care about this.

I've got my X1 so really don't care who buys what this "Winter Solstice".

alexkoepp3799d ago

Sony fanboys are funny, "It's just because they had Xbox One in stock"

And had Black Friday gone to PS4, "Well everyone knew the PS4 would sell more, duh!"

loulou3799d ago

If that makes you feel better enemy, then its all good suppose

gta28003799d ago

I called every single gamestop in my area at 7am asking about the ps4 and they all would say they sold out but when i asked about the xbox one they all said they had them in stock. Even went to the mall at 12pm and they still had a lot. I am not exaggerating either. I was actually surprised there were so many xboxs out there.

mikeslemonade3799d ago

^alexkoep

Nothing wrong with that logic. Both statments would be true on each circumstance.

x713hitsquad3799d ago

@gta2800. So were u interested in getting an xbox, or did u have nothing better to do than than to call a bunch of places to check out their stock? I figured if u wanted an xbox u would have gotten it at the first place u called. If not u are a very dedicated Sony fanboy.

CryofSilence3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

@x713hitsquad

Curiosity is a powerful force that should be pursued. Whether he intended to buy one of either console is irrelevant. However, mocking one's curiosity is what should be shunned. Don't make assumptions about another's lifestyle based on what limited information is provided on an anonymous internet forum board.

gta28003799d ago

@x713

U mad? Lol

I was actually looking for a PS4 but would ask them what about xbox since I was already talking to them. I was just curious lol

VforVideogames3798d ago

x7123hitsquad
well said , you get a bubble.

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Sarcasm3799d ago

Yup, trying to find a PS4 is hard enough already after launch. Trying to find one on Black Friday just wasn't going to happen.

Rainstorm813799d ago

LMAO i have a friend who refused to preorder a PS4 back in July with me, he thought he could walk in day 1 and buy 1...LLS...when that failed he said oh ill just get one on Black Friday......Now he is looking like an idiot still searching while everyone else we know have their PS4s

Some people never listen

Ashunderfire863799d ago

Thanks for stating the obvious so articles like this can take a backseat.

Kryptix3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

The PS4 sold out on launch day, meaning that there were no additional PS4s to add to the Black Market stock. On the other hand, the left over Xbox Ones added to the Black Market stock and since there were no PS4s left after quickly running out...gamers only had the choice of buying the Xbox One. Just explaining it.

Rainstorm813799d ago

@yarbie

Walmarts in my area said they had around 20 PS4 for Black Friday.....that aint shyt

Pogmathoin3799d ago

Its funny how everyone here suddenly work at brick stores, and say have lots of X1's in stock, yet check online, and none available. Yet when new Ipad or Iphone is released, the online sites are suddenly correct, but never in the case of X1, its a convienient lie....

AngelicIceDiamond3799d ago

@Enemy Yeah, and that's a good thing. More consoles for everyone.

Automatic793799d ago

The pendulum continues to swing in Xbox one favor. Its the system and games. Its also known that MS has ramped up production on Xbox one for holidays. Not what fanboys are spreading re system not selling.

imt5583799d ago

Sony prepared PS4 consoles for EU, AU and SA launch. That's the reason for small number of PS4 on Black Friday.

Chevalier3799d ago

No stores had PS4, the only reason Bestbuys had them was because some customers ordered and they didn't pick up and were put up for sale. They got small shipment of Xbox One.

Bzone243799d ago

The Walmart I went to on Black Friday had PS4s. They held them back the same way they held back the Xbox Ones. Both were sold out within minutes. Don't know how many of each console were available though.

T-Dawg63799d ago

Ever think Microsoft just dealt with supply better?

Ju3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

MS had left over supply from launch. Sold about 300k less there which might have swapped over to Black Friday, plus MS must have had re-supplies. I rather think all PS4's are fresh shipments in contrast. To say it dealt supply better isn't really the case. Demand plays in favor of MS. And yet, it would be interesting to see what the actual numbers are. If it's e.g. <500K, Sony still wins (sold 50% what XO sold). But if more this goes towards MS. I doubt MS could re-supply faster than Sony. Especially because Sony was probably allocating another 1M to Europe (launch day).

AnthonyJrWTF3799d ago

I think everyone on N4G is blinded by real logic.

This is most likely the truth here, Microsoft has been stating for a long time that they're pumping out the supply.

avengers19783799d ago

No one has any real numbers from Black Friday yet.
I was at GameStop for there midnight opening, they had gotten shipments of both PS4 and XB1 first come first serve, they had 22 PS4 and 9 XB1 consoles. The first console bought was an XB1, but after that PS4 was going quick and sold out with 4 XB1s left. By the time I left there was 1 XB1 left and, the person behind me was there to get it. Every phone call the manager answered during that time was to ask if they had PS4s about 9 calls in all. So judging by just that one location in NW OHIO is say the PS4 won Black Friday... Is this an indication of how it's going every where, I don't know, but it makes articles like this pointless, everyone's out there doing there own survey. Until some real numbers come in speculation is simply that.

Chevalier3798d ago

I work at a EB games (1 of top 3 sales in Canada during black friday) and worked all weekend as well and we turned away so many people and fielded so many phone calls about PS4 it wasn't funny. We still have preorders we're waiting on Sony to fill too. Our Xbox Ones had really low numbers and MS hasn't even filled our remaining orders yet and it's a small amount too. If my store had a couple hundred PS4 we would have sold them all. I even went to Best Buy across the street to buy stuff after a shift and talk to a friend and he told me they reopened PS4 orders and already had over a hundred people order. Would explain why I had people kept asking me to preorder PS4 and me explaining "pre"-order means no we don't take orders AFTER an item is released.

Gamer6663799d ago

Agreed. This is a simple supply and demand issue at this time. Both systems are in demand, it just so happens that MS has more systems to sell.

Flames763799d ago

The walmarts in my area all had the PS4.Bottom line more people want the X1 it has better games and its the better sysytem.The excuse you gave makes no sence at all.Of course ther X1 was in the store to purchase it was black friday and mirosoft made sure the stores had them to sell.

FrigidDARKNESS3799d ago

Go walk into a Walmart or Targets Superstore and you will see plenty of ps4s available.

SoulSercher6203799d ago

Walked into both, there were none.

Khajiit863799d ago

Is not true in my area. All stores sold out almost immediately out of ps4s and still had x1s. I still have not got my ps4. Im hoping tuesday at wal mart. That is what the manager told me

TheFutureIsBlue3799d ago

I don't believe this article. I saw more people walk out with ps4s than xbones at my gamestop. The general public think the same so it goes the same with the whole world = Everyone want's dat ps4

Skattman3799d ago

None in the Baltimore area (Xbones).

JackISbacK3799d ago

just go away and play games games on your ps4 ,just stop talking shit,i have noticed 1000 times bullieng xb1 on its articles and just dont give stupid reasons ,both were sold out before and what sold was all new stock ,we know ps4 is great but it does not means it will sold most or will crush xb1 ,buddy competition is high ,don't underestimate them master chief's on his way,times been stoped in quantum break,legends have been written in fables and many titans have falled. oh nathan is also prepaering for his another jump you and me will not be dissapointed from sony,but please stop fanboyism and enjoy games.

3-4-53799d ago

This is According to a Survey....

So they ask 100 people and assume that means that is how it is for 2 million people.

Survey needs to be of at least a million people to be even close to accurate.

Survey's are always only like a few hundred people, as if that represents anybody in full...

Such ignorance

Death3799d ago

They asked 3000 people that bought consoles on Black Friday from Target and Walmart. Of these 3000 people, 61% left with an Xbox One or Xbox 360.

xprs223799d ago

Funny how people find so many excused for Sony. Wish they'd use those same rationales for Microsoft. They say, "Xbox ain't sellin..." bullshit called. Both consoles have selling well and having trouble staying on store shelves, yet nerds find imaginative ways to express Xbox's failure.

nosferatuzodd3799d ago

yeah because theres no ps4 anywhere ofcourse grasping a straw much ms

Death3799d ago

Yet 15% of the people surveyed were able to get a PS4. Funny how that worked when you just said there were no PS4's to be had.

BallsEye3799d ago

Or maybe...MAYBE...some people actually preffer xbox one over ps4? Enemy, you've earned a title of sony nazi on this site.

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Retroman3799d ago

lol, well i'll be damn. if this was even remotely true
INFOSCOUT must be in MS payroll to announce this hog-wash. article next to this one say SONY won BLACK FRIDAY
sheesh what editors would do for love of money. never realize lying can be soooooooo expensive.

chuckyj13799d ago

This wasn't based on what's available... It was based on what shoppers wanted...

Fanboys need to chill this was a survey... Who cares... If this get's you pissed off...

You really need to re-evaluate your life.

NewZealander3798d ago

so you are saying all the people that bought X1 only did so because of a ps4 shortage lol, both consoles are insanely popular and some people just might buy X1 because thats their first choice, shocking i know!

Flames763798d ago

Have plenty of PS4 at the walmart stores here but no Xbox One.Seems like that crazy theory just went out the window

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Jughead34163799d ago

Has anyone heard any sales figures for the European launch? Wonder if they hit a million sales there too.

Sarcasm3799d ago

They shipped 300,000 units to the UK alone, it's entire plausible that they might have sold all of them. We won't know until some sort of press release comes out.

Utalkin2me3799d ago

Man this stuff is amazing, kind of reminds me of Halloween 3. The mask with the chips inside to control people.....*cough*....*cough*. ...above me.

AngelicIceDiamond3799d ago

@Master A simple statement like "gratz microsoft.." and get that many disagrees is evidence of overall animosity and bias towards Xbox on this site and it gets worse and worse everyday. And that's fact because nobody can say otherwise.

What also is fact is this site isn't for everyone community wise. Since I'll get disagrees for stating something that's PAINFULLY obvious can anyone prove me wrong?

Utalkin2me3799d ago

I mean guy seriously. Some people have common sense and some don't. I know it seems rude to say that, just being honest. I can link probably 50 articles of Ms doing things the shouldn't in the gaming community. I mean if you have been following the last 6 months anybody with common sense would understand.

jessupj3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

Yes, but there's a perfectly logical and rational reason why a statement like "gratz microsoft" gets lots of disagrees.

Some people have convieniently forgotten about the anti consumer DRM (among HEAPS of other things) that MS tried to enforce on gamer, but it's apparants a lot of people haven't and rightly so.

In the history of this amazing industry said DRM was arguably the single worst atrocity a publisher has committed by far. If MS was successful they would have destroyed console gaming as when know it.

So when someone says grats to a company like MS that did what they did, naturally a lot of level headed gamers are going to disagree with that.

I love gaming with a fiery passion and I will not forgive and I will not forget. Maybe if 10 years go by and MS has continued to put the gamers first to make profit... maybe then I might consider trusting them again with my gaming needs. But considering they keep talking about their DRM and the future I won't be holding my breath.

Hicken3799d ago

You act like this is something new. It's simply that the company benefiting has changed: it used to be Microsoft, and now it's Sony.

Were you around for the overall animosity and bias against Sony on this site that got worse and worse every day? This site wasn't for everyone community wise back then, either.

I'm tired of hearing, "Oh, leave Microsoft alone. Why all the hate?" particularly from people who weren't saying the same while Sony was suffering under the same conditions. But tell me: were you absent from the planet this year? Did you miss how royally they sought to screw gamers? How, rather than clearly explain themselves, they insulted gamers(you folks aren't ready for the future, so we have to show it to you; if you don't have internet, get a 360)?

At every step, they gave core gamers reasons to hate them; should we now forget all that happened and just jump right in bed with them?

Even I, who hate Microsoft, was willing to give them a new chance with the new gen. I knew for a fact there was no way the DRM rumors could be true. Just gimme some core support and a gaming-focused console, and I'm all in.

So much for wanting my money, eh, Microsoft?

And I'm far from the only one. Which is why you see such disdain for them right now. If you're gonna whine, lament that Microsoft put themselves in such a situation.

Cuz that's the real fact: they did it to themselves.

ToyboxDX3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

@ AngelicIceDiamond
The point is, there's nothing to congratulate. The reason XBone is selling more is because there are more leftover stocks from the initial launch.

And the reason PS4 sell lesser is because it is practically sold out.

From there I'm sure you can do the maths, right?

As of now there is close to 1.2 million PS4 sold in US and about 790K XBone sold in US, so you tell me which has the larger sold amount?

Death3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

@Hicken,

First off, the only "core" gamers Microsoft pissed off were Sony gamers like yourself. As such, I don't think they wanted your money anyway. I would hope Microsoft was developing the Xbox One for Xbox fans more than they were for Playstation fans.

As for the super scary DRM monster that keeps you up at night, it was there to make it so we could rip games to the HDD and not need disc verification to play. They scrapped that feature for me so you could sleep at night, so just say thank you and get past it.

JessiePinkmanYo3799d ago

AngelicIceDiamond-Well said, and honestly Im pretty much done here. In an earlier statement I made about my connection on BF4 playing on my X1, I get a wild pack of retards who just disagree because I said it happened on the PS4 too. I have all three consoles, but Im done with the fanboy shit on this site. Its rampant, more here than most others. If you don't own stock in Sony, MS or Nintendo, WTF should you care if "your" console sells more?

dmeador3797d ago

a. Put in my own class name
b. Show data in pop up box when click on link

@jessupj, others

The only "logic" is that there are a lot of people on this site that dont like xbox/Microsoft, and are going to disagree with literally anything that’s says or implies something positive about them. They want them to fail, plain and simple. This is why this site is horrible. Very few people having discussions like you guys are trying to , and mostly rabid fanboys.

You don’t like DRM? Awesome, maybe you guys can get mad at a company that has it on their console. Lots of narrow minded people who lack a little foresight here.

1) The X1 selling 34 consoles the entire year would be horrible for gaming.
2) They are doing well, and this is after they changed the policies that so many people had so much fun getting angry at. They will realize it was a good move
3) They won't risk the backlash they had again with DRM
4) People will always try and find ways to prove their assumptions are correct
5) @Utalkin2me, I'll spot you some, can you link me to 20 that Ms is doing that they "shouldn't"?
6) @jessupj, some people have conveniently forgotten there has been more than one generation before this, and all the lies Sony told people

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AngelicIceDiamond3799d ago

@Jess

"So when someone says grats to a company like MS that did what they did, naturally a lot of level headed gamers are going to disagree with that."

"Level headed" people on N4G no I don't think so lol. No, its just simple fanboy nature of this site. I don't really know anybody here that's "Level headed."

"I love gaming with a fiery passion and I will not forgive and I will not forget. Maybe if 10 years go by and MS has continued to put the gamers first to make profit... maybe then I might consider trusting them again with my gaming needs."

In other words you'll never play on MS console that's fine. Sounds like a statement that anyone else would make here. Meanwhile I'll enjoy watching Titan Fall, Quantum Break. As well as Uncharted and other surprises Sony show off. I don't let anything get in the way of great gaming. I just play the games and have a conversation.

I'm not tryin to defend DRM (god no) but it seems like over a million of People were perfectly fine with pluggin in their X1 for the update.

I guess a million+ people and potential future X1 buyers have internet access to update the console. I dunno, I just find it funny. Like almost everyone who buys X1 has internet.

Rainstorm813799d ago

With more gamers like you MS would've kept their initial strategy.

One true fact is not everyone with an X1 or PS4 for that matter, has or will always have the internet.

I'm a huge gamer owned every major console since NES....and MS is among thee worst console producers ever...after owning the Xbox and 360 it seems like they don't care to make games anymore, MS game studios hardly releases anything (timed exclusives aren't exclusives to me)...it will be a good while before I jump in with the X1. At least a 200$ price drop and a change in their gaming strategy

Gamers need to have self restraint and stand up for what they don't agree with, no matter how fun the games look.....that's my view anyway

cyphertech3799d ago

My wife was trying to buy a PS4 all of this week and last week and every website and local store was out of PS4s. They had no idea when they'd get new ones and pretty much just told her to check in later. They did have Xbox ones though, so go figure.

cyphertech3798d ago

Go to Fort Hood, Texas. Show your military ID and walk right into the PX.

Riderz13373799d ago

"Microsoft’s Xbox One was the most popular video game console on Black Friday, according to a survey of early shoppers by shopping market research firm InfoScout."

So we are basing this on a survey? Lmfao...What??? I even dug a little deeper and found this:

"The data is based on InfoScout’s consumer research. The company interviewed the first 3,000 shoppers at Target on Thanksgiving and Black Friday."

That's awesome, they SURVEYED 3000 people and came to the conclusion that Xbox One sold more. *Facepalm*

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 19h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 17h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 14h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 7h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 9h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 5h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 17h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 3h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 2h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 18h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 15h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 18h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 17h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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