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PlayStation 4 CPU using AMD Turbo Core to go from 1.6GHz up to 2.75Ghz ?

For awhile there has been speculations about the 2.75GHz clock rate that showed up in the PS4 FCC Certification. Some speculated that it was just the clock rate of the Memory but today in a IGN PS4 review video the 2.75GHz clock rate has been shown to be the highest clock rate of the CPU with 1.6GHz being the base clock rate.

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lifeisgamesok3824d ago

Hmmm I'd think it would become too hot but good for PS owners if true

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3824d ago

Doubtful but would be awesome if true.

cleft53824d ago

It's interesting how most of the stories about the PS4 is about how their is all this power in the console that wasn't even mentioned. That's the best sort of surprise.

UltimateMaster3823d ago

It's based off the IGN article.

Prime1573823d ago

@Cleft5

Not saying I disagree with you, however, this is very much like MisterX and his theoretical 2.1 TFlops math with ESRAM.

I'm skeptical of this on both sides.

CryofSilence3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@Prime157

This is much more a physical possibility. It is extremely common for multicore chips to dynamically turbocharge, even in laptop and mobile processors. My 3 year old laptop with a first gen i7 onboard is capable of it. However, to my knowledge, there is no way RAM will increase FLOPS (Floating-point Operations Per Second), just the bandwidth to transmit the data. CPU/GPU create the FLOPS count. ;)

Edit: Perhaps you are referring to how the theoretical bandwidth limit of eSRAM in conjunction with DDR3 is over 200 GB/s? That is a physical possibility, but time will tell.

ChrisW3823d ago

Yes, it can go that high... Phenomenally higher if cooled with liquid nitrogen.

Will Sony ever make a patch to make it go that high? I strongly believe not. Because all games are built around the standardized GHz for optimal performance with least amount of problems.

pedrof933823d ago

Can someone show me the original source ?

Irishguy953823d ago

Why well said for you and not for lifeisgamesok? The only reason it wouldn't be put up is because of heat. The thing about 'overclocking' is that it brings on heat. And alot of it if you clock it too high for your cooling system to handle.

abzdine3823d ago

You want a futureproof console, here you go!!
Friday 29th cannot come soon enough

ajkula3823d ago

well, the turbo core tech, as mentionned, can lower the freq. to minimal uses, then higher the freq. of all cores up to a certain speed THEN to less threads sensitive applications, reduce the number of core activated and boost those remaining to the ceiling...
in no way it'll boost all 8 cores to 2.75, this would be toasting the proc...
there must be a precise ratio here, which i have no idea.
and a real question fans should ask themselves is, at which clock speed all 8 cores ceiling??

..instead of being doubtful about things everyone ignore here!
SINCE, it is factual that the jaguar is capable of "turbo core tech"
cheers

Consoldtobots3823d ago

this isn't some secret sauce, my 4 yr old laptop has the same type of core and can do the same thing.

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GarrusVakarian3824d ago (Edited 3824d ago )

Don't worry, Sony are hardware geniuses, they have all that tech in a tiny box and the power brick inside too.

http://www.planetextech.com...

140 degrees F (60C) after playing Killzone SF for 3 hours straight which is very good indeed.

Sitdown3824d ago

After unboxing my ps4, it slowly became apparent how hideous the ps3...I got my ps3 fat and ugly with the full intentions of hurting it's feelings. It's place in the entertainment cabinet now belongs to another.

majiebeast3824d ago (Edited 3824d ago )

Yeah my 6870 is idling now at 45-50 degrees celsius. If i start playing a game it goes up to atleast 70.

^

Phat PS3 is the BBW of consoles.

pyramidshead3824d ago

If they designed it to withstand the heat from the CPU going up to 2.75 then holy crap. So long XB1 CPU advantage. If true....no wonder Sony kept this number quiet :P

scott1823824d ago

Why the crap don't they just say what it runs at so people can stop with the rumors?

Themba763823d ago

my laptop runs hotter than that my laptop can get up to 91c

mkis0073823d ago

My pc rig with an oc'ed i7 920 3.6 ghz aa gtx 680 a gtx 660 and cooling with a corsair h70 has my temps at 40-50 C idle...heat is not going to be a problem, no matter how much people want it to.

In game those jump to around 64C

mxrider21993823d ago

i played for 29 hrs straight no over heating issues at all i was streaming too

ajkula3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@scott182: simply because from their point of view AND a business intelligence point, it's none of yours business and you should care about the game quality first when you first think of buying an entertainment hardware, not the specs inside it...
if you remember the jaguar from atari, which had a dual highly capable processors for its time BUT also embended an old motorola 68000...
...that the devs preferdd to use from laziness...
whatever, just think in their place!

Consoldtobots3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

good stuff!!!

I use mine in landscape mode and it looks like that runs 10° cooler at peak.

ZBlacktt3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Yes, this is why they have sold the most consoles on the planet. Why they come out with Slim and Super Slim lines!

Nice avie. I went to that concert in 86. Got a picture wearing the shirt from back then if you want to see it for the laughs, lol. Still and always metal to this very day!

\n/ o.o \m/

But yeah, I've played ACF up to 10 hours a day. Not a single issue as expected. That's playing for hours. Go eat, leave the console on... continue playing.

GarrusVakarian3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@ZBlacktt

Man,i can't even express how jealous i am of you. Seriously huge Met fan here. I saw them last year, going to see them again whenever they come back here. They played so fast in 86 from the youtube vids, it was like 2X tempo.

Yeah PM me the pic lol (you have me on block though btw)

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Mosiac773824d ago

What great rumor and it will forever stay a rumor.

C-H-E-F3823d ago

Didn't they say something about a surprise upon opening up the ps4? Is this it? If not then ehh I guess i'll have to continuing playing Killzone Shadow Fall and 2k14 plus the other games I bought until someone unlock the surprise for me because frankly i'm to lazy to do it myself. :D

JsonHenry3823d ago

Too hot? It is under-clocked already from its typically stock running speed. My 8-core AMD CPU in my PC runs pretty close to this same pattern. It idles lower then when a game or application that is more demanding is started it jumps from like 3.6ghz or something to 4.2ghz.

Its pretty standard these days for AMD CPUs. Whether the PS4 does this or not I don't know. But it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say it is possible since the rest of AMDs desktop/laptop line up of CPUs all do this all day every day and have for a long time now.

Kleptic3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

^exactly...This shouldn't be too surprising...both AMD and Intel have base clocks with 'boost' multipliers when applications call for it...

thermal management is the only question...and considering jaguars are low tdp, low heat units to begin with, i'd be very surprised if a turbo setting of 2.75 makes some outrageous difference in heat output...

however, people need to keep that in context...a cpu's frequency has zero effect on its instructions per cycle limit...and jaguar cores are horrendously bad in this area (not a big deal for a console, as the OS is simple)...but having very low IPC figures do not get very tangible differences from overclocking...

So...just saying...this could be true...but even then, you'd never know the difference...the cpu's between the xbox one and PS4 will perform nearly identically, even if one is clocked slightly differently...

the new consoles are gpu-centric devices, any performance differences between them will ALWAYS be because of the gpu differences...

Cernunnos3823d ago

People forget that turbo only applies to one core. So the other 7 cores will still run at 1.6ghz. That's why the heat output does not increase significantly.

frostypants3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Yeah...most processors can technically be overclocked beyond the speed they are initially set to. However the clock at which they are set tends to be below capacity in order to maintain safe operating temperatures. That's why when PC modders OC the CPU, one generally also throws in all sorts of additional cooling mechanisms...more fans, better thermal paste, bigger heat sink, etc. Sony won't bump the clock speed of this processor...even if later batches of the chip are more capable of managing it safely, they wouldn't fracture the capabilities of their install base that way.

ipach3823d ago

theoretically, the non-used cores partially help dissipate some of the heat and enable the chip to operate at those speeds. that's how it works on their PC CPUs at least

BallsEye3823d ago

It alrady heats up over 60 degrees at normal clock. Why would anyone belive it can go up from 1.6 to 2.75 without overheating?? You guys are unbelievable.

Madderz3823d ago

Says the guy with 2 bubbles.

BallsEye3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@Madderz

Bubbles on n4g only mean if you're a hardcore sony fanboy (tons of bubbles) or not (almost none) it got nothing to do with facts or truth.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

You can read numbers, right?
61 celsius - 141 f after 20 mins of KZ

now where is my bubble up for stating a fact? According to you I should get some.

RegorL3823d ago

1) 60 degrees is not a problem unless you put it in a box, resulting in 60 degrees air intake...

2) How do you know KZ runs on normal clock?
If any game might utilize boost already it is KZ...

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Letros3824d ago (Edited 3824d ago )

All modern processors do "turbo" for reduced core processing, been around for ages...

indysurfn3823d ago

he made two statments only one of them is correct. It has been around for ages, but not all modern have turbo, not all by a longshot!

frostypants3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

No, he isn't. In processor terms, Turbo is a marketing term, not a technical one.

Statix3823d ago

Not in consoles. Everyone assumed that the CPUs in these new consoles just ran at a fixed base clockrate.

R1V3N3823d ago

assumed, key word. it would be like the multi threading in my laptop 2.8 ghz single core apps 2 ghz for all multi threaded apps

Volkama3823d ago

Indeed, turbo generally downclocks other cores to boost a single core. On a PC this is a way to get better performance from programs that hammer one thread alone. It is of limited use in the consoles where you'd expect games to be properly multi-threaded anyway.

Still, additional options for developers can't be perceived as a negative.

NarooN3823d ago

Turbo boost as a concept has been around for a long time, but not all modern CPU's support it, not by a long shot. There are more CPU's than just x86 Intel and AMD processors, and not even all modern Intel/AMD chips support it.

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ATiElite3824d ago

And it's less efficient and less powerful than an Intel so who cares.

Not really talking about the PS4 but just AMD cpu's in general

DragonKnight3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Why do you make pointless comments like this?

NarooN3823d ago

What do Intel CPU's have to do with this, lol? Absolutely nothing.

indysurfn3823d ago

Since we are comparing xbox one to PS4 I have to wonder. You do know that Microsoft has the same brand cpu in the xbox one dont you?

You said not 'really' talking about, but if that was true you should have said not talking about xbone, and PS4. But you didn't.

LordDhampire3823d ago

No they don't microsoft might be based off same processor but since they added esram to the die it would produce to much heat

Magicite3823d ago

have u made benchmarks on it so u can prove your point?

Persistantthug3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

ATiElite makes pointless comments like these as his little subtle attempt to jab at consoles.

He's been angry for years with how consoles continue to get first class treatment, while PC gaming is relegated to second class treatment among the AAA budget developers and industry.

ATiElite is a bitter gamer and bitter n4g member....... basically.

ATiElite3822d ago

Ha ha your too funny! AMD's suck NO MATTER WHAT THEY R IN!

http://www.n2g.us/2013/11/g...

there goes your second class right there!

PC we play games NOT talk about them!

Persistantthug3822d ago

You're not playing GTA 5.....not on your PC.
Rockstar treats PC gaming as if it's second class.

Sorry.

ATiElite3821d ago

How?

what Game besides Red Dead has NOT been on the PC from Rockstar?

GTAV PC will arrive when PS4-XB1 versions arrive.

your statements are so DUMB. Do you even think before you type....apparently NOT!

Persistantthug3821d ago

Even if Rockstar does eventually bring GTA 5 to the PC, it would still be late, and thus, SECOND CLASS treatment.

Rockstar doesn't even care enough about PC gaming to be bothered bringing it on time.
Rockstar isn't the only one either.
I'm sorry but it is what it is.

ATiElite3820d ago

is GTAV on PS4 or XB1 right NOW?

NO

So PS4 and XB1 are second class too right according to YOU, you stupid idiot.

you are so friggin STUPID! stop talking to me and go away. go play TLOU for the 99th time as you don't even have a PS4 yet.

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GoldenMonkey353824d ago

Would it make a difference? the console is still underpowered just like the xbox one. I give the wii u a pass just because Nintendo seems to be the only one out of the big 3 to understand consoles cant compete with the pc market on trying to make super duper graphics and all that other stuff sony and ms try to brag about. Instead they focus on an affordable console that can make nice clean graphics with super fun games focusing on gameplay.

Orbilator3824d ago

really? i have yet to see gears3 or killzone 3 beaten apart from res on a pc so stop talking utter nonsense

Jovanian 3824d ago

"i have yet to see gears3 or killzone 3 beaten apart from res........... and framerate and texture quality and anti aliasing and performance and tesselation and DX11 features and aesthetic"

Fixed that for you. Look at any high spec PC game and you will see it beats those two games in pretty much all categories I listed. Same for pretty much every other PS4 or XB1 'next gen' game which can barely handle 1080p and barely meet 60 fps, PC standards since for like a decade

starchild3824d ago

That's because you are blind or looking through special fanboy goggles. Even the best looking games on PS4 like KZSF still don't look as good as the better looking games on PC.

Gears 3 and Killzone 3 look very poor compared to the best PC games.

Statix3823d ago

They may look better, but Killlzone 3 or Gears of War 3 do not look "poor" by any means, even by today's standards.

solidboss073823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Guess what. I spend a few hundred on a great console, and I am set for nearly a decade (PS4). I like women, sport and other things that require money, like life. I don't need to spend thousands just to up the resolution on a PC version of a console game.
Wow, look! I am playing 6 different WOW games at once on my amazing rig, while I4 internet pages are open...... yeah...... that's great, why don't you step outside and make some Vitamin D?

JsonHenry3823d ago

Then, Orbilator, you know NOTHING of PC gaming. Because those games were beat BEFORE they came out on the console of choice. (in terms of graphics fidelity, I'm not speaking as the "fun" factor of the games)

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Soldierone3824d ago

Crisis proves graphics isn't everything.

Jovanian 3824d ago

ah yes...the classic sony response when they are called out on their hypocrisy for championing graphics when comparing their hardware to the XB1, but suddenly having a complete reversal in opinion when comparing their hardware to even a medium spec PC. I don't think I'd be able to handle that kind of dissonance

ThatCanadianGuy5143824d ago

Ah yes, the old PC fanboy wet dream of elitism, compare a machine that swaps specs at will vs a console with fixed specs.Even tho we all know it makes no sense, let's do it anyways to make us feel better about that $400 we blew on a GPU.

sorane3824d ago (Edited 3824d ago )

I could say the same about Killzone which is even worse in both graphics and gameplay.

Jovanian 3824d ago

@above

"Even tho we all know it makes no sense"

I don't see why consoles deserve special treatment and are suddenly not allowed to be compared to another piece of hardware that is used for gaming

starchild3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Ah yes, the old console fanboy standby of screaming "elitism", while they turn around and act like true elitist douchebags to other console gamers. This is especially true of you Sony fanboys. Hypocrisy at its finest.

The only difference is, there really is fairly minimal difference between most of the consoles, while the PC is objectively far ahead.

Edit: sorane's right, you guys need to quit bashing Crysis all the time. If anything, Killzone fits that description better.

Metacritic scores:

Crysis = 91
Crysis Warhead = 84
Crysis 2 = 86
Crysis 3 = 76
Series average = 84.25

Killzone = 70
Killzone Liberation = 77
Killzone 2 = 91
Killzone 3 = 84
Killzone Mercenary = 78
Killzone Shadow Fall = 73
Series average = 78.83

Soldierone3823d ago

Yeah we are happy about graphics and what we get out of it, but it doesn't mean everything. We also get exclusives and get excited for those too, when is the last time a PC fan was going nuts for games? Never, its always "well my 2k dollar computer can run it at two more frames a second than yours!!!!"

Yet when we talk games, PC fans just go "who cares, it'd run better on pc...." Guess what, you don't get it. You Don't like Killzone, yet you love Crysis because it "looks amazing" makes no sense.... No one on consoles cares at all that you spent so much money to run your PC at max settings, not a single console fan at all.

Sony fans and Xbox fans go at it with each other, then PC fans try to be the "elites" in it all. Stop, just go play your games and stop crying consoles hold you back.

dantesparda3823d ago

Oh the irony of starchild calling anyone a fanboy. And yes the PC is a more capable platform.

jebabcock3823d ago

Pc gaming is an atrocious experience out side of the fact that most of the games I like aren't developed for the pc... I also don't like having to buy a new graphics card Everytime I want to buy a game new and then still having compatibility issues or awful glitching that may or may not ever get fixed.

A console provides good graphics, reliable gameplay, and an Un matched game library for those who don't want to dump a large sum of cash into a pc to get a mediocre game experience with the potential for better graphics...

Statix3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

@starchild

Lol at the "fairly minimal difference" statement between the Xbox One and PS4. How is 100% greater number of pixels rendered in Call of Duty: Ghosts, and 60% greater in Battlefield 4 considered minimal? Are you too ignorant to acknowledge the massive difference between 1080p and 720p?

Fact of the matter is, PC hardware and console hardware cannot be directly compared. Consoles are fixed, closed architectures, while PC is open-architecture with an infinitely variable number of possible configurations. Comparing the two on a raw-power spec basis is moot, ESPECIALLY at this early stage when developers have yet to gain familiarity with optimizing for these new systems.

To lend you a bit of much-needed perspective, the PS3 is 7-year old hardware, equipped with an ancient 7800GTX GPU, yet it is still capable of pulling off gorgeous looking games like The Last of Us. That should tell you something about the potential longevity of these systems.

Srelhow3823d ago

A gamer is someone who loves games and is willing to buy any piece of hardware that can expand there ability to play games and the choice of what to play on is there's alone to make. PC, PS3, 360, WII, WII U, PS4, and XB1 is just hardware for us to game on. So please can someone explain to me what the fuss is all about. Does the hardware make the game or does the game make the hardware. Does it matter that Joe plays on a Playstation and Sam plays Xbox or George likes PC, NO.... As long as they are getting a gaming experience they enjoy. By the way people can own more than one piece of hardware to game on you know. Right?????

SO PEOPLE, ALL GAMING PEOPLE, BE A GAMER ENJOY YOUR GAMES, AND THE HARDWARE YOU PLAY THEM ON. IT'S FUN. SO STOP WITH THE BLUE IS NOT RED OR GREEN, DUH WE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT, ALL OF US HAVE, EVERYONE OF US. GET WHAT YOU WANT, TO PLAY THE GAMES YOU WANT.

WeedyOne3823d ago

Crysis 1 was a very good game, its the sequels that sucked.

webeblazing3823d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

I don't think anyone brag about crisis and most of the comment here are coming out people a$$ cause the cant come up with a better argument. we see it all the time with the wii and wiiU the have the best exclusives but get downplayed buy ps fanboys. pc have a ton of exclusives that's not mmos and pc gamers don't forces their opinion of what games they like down people throat either.

pc have too many games too that's why people dont go nuts over one game. pc gamers heavily criticize games when its called for, and the main reason yall go nut over ps exclusive is because it made by sony and most people on this site is fanboys. point like I said look at Nintendo do you here Nintendo fans bashing people or saying their exclusive games is the greatest and ps has no games.

if sony next console would be a modular system that you can upgrade and swap out components everyone on this site would be jumping up and down stating how revolutionary it is.

and you don't need to upgrade your pc have to be ancient for that to happen you need a GTX 260 for ac4 that came out in 2008 so update is the same as consoles with more benefits

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AceBlazer133824d ago (Edited 3823d ago )

Must hurt you huh? pc being ignored by the masses while these two weaker consoles come and take the spotlight for themselves. must be boring in pc land, no one to compete with. GTFO and go to the pc articles

cause im sure everyone just can't wait to get the next big title on their pc. pc as a gaming platform is overshadowed by consoles maybe because they are specifically for gaming

Jovanian 3824d ago

" pc being ignored by the masses"

I'm pretty sure there are more homes in america that own a PC than there are that own a console...

LeCreuset3823d ago

How many of those PC's are being used for gaming?

LordNikon3823d ago

@Swadian

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the next-gen consoles being the center of attention for gaming news this past few months...

Anyway, dude. We get it. PC is awesome. I'm not even sure why you're trying so hard here.

sorane3823d ago

@lecreuset

Does this answer your question?

http://i.imgur.com/ROM1wSM....

Now how about you show me how many people are gaming on your platform of choice :)

LeCreuset3823d ago

@LordNikon

Their whole argument is utterly stupid. Of course people are going to compare one console experience to another console experience. That makes sense. If you are in the market for a console, you are going to compare the specs of those consoles to see which is the better console. These arguments that they are presenting are comparing apples to oranges and are about as dumb as trying to compare console gaming to gaming on a mobile phone.

Jovanian 3823d ago

@Lord

idunno, I'm just real tired of the hypocrisy of sony fans constantly hounding the XB1 for being so inferior and then turn around and act like graphics don't matter when toe to toe with a machine that is actually better than it. In reality the graphical difference between the XB1 and PS4 is marginal at best, and the only real difference is between a next gen console and a mid/high end PC. People act like the teeny tiny difference between Xb1 and PS4 is like the grand canyon, and then the difference between the PS4 and PC is suddenly irrelevant.

LeCreuset3823d ago

@sorane

Not really, actually. For one, you only showed a graphic, but lets take that at face value. I want to know how many of those PC's are being used for gaming. Technically, you could play a game of solitaire or good ol' minesweeper on a PC and be classified as a PC gamer. I want to know how many people are using their PC's as dedicated gaming devices. How many people are keeping their PC's up to date with the latest tech to play the latest games? That's what I'm asking. And of those people, how many of them are BUYING games?

webeblazing3823d ago

what type of question is that "How many people are keeping their PC's up to date with the latest tech to play the latest games?" who does this serious why do people post dumb question or just state dumb things on this site. it must be to downplay people choices. why would you need to keep you gfx card in you pc "always" up to date. seriously most of people argument on here is BS I started getting more into pc gaming like 4yrs ago and the gfx card I had can play all the games of today. it cost me $650 with everything except tv and windows pirated it(didn't feel like calling to put os on new pc).

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isa_scout3823d ago

Yeah, but tell me bro how was Uncharted and The Last Of Us on your super duper PC? Oh, you didn't play those games?Why? Oh, you don't have a console? There there don't cry, just run along now troll.
Every system whether it's a PC,PS3,360,WII, WII U,PS4, or XOne has good,fun, beautiful games. Don't look like a jackass by saying things that only a jackass would say.

hesido3823d ago

You talk about Nintendo being affordable and omit the fact that performance per dollar is WAY higher for PS and XBox products, compared to nintendo products. You get way less performance per dollar on nintendo, and you talk about it as if it is a good thing.

webeblazing3823d ago

system design is different for consoles Nintendo knows this that's his point that why they always try new things for gameplay purposes

nin >> lets mix it up try a new way to play (wii mote, new remote, light gun, glove, etc get it).

sony and ms >> lets just upgrade it(new gfx card, new cpu, more ram, etc get it)

tontontam03823d ago

for a $400 machine I think it is not underpowered.

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Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“While we haven't even begun to tap into the full potential of the PS5“

We always here this statement yet we have plenty of games that struggle to run at solid frame rates or decent resolutions.

Skuletor1d ago

The developers should know the limits of these consoles, especially this far into the gen. I'd blame them and possibly the publishers, pushing to make games as visually appealing as possible at the cost of resolution and frame rate, which is nothing new in the industry.

franwex2h ago

I may skip next gen altogether probably. We will see.

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Hugodastrevas4d ago

Not for me, I'm 100% physical media all of the time.

jwillj2k43d ago

I hate that I have to keep calling this out, but your physical disks mean nothing if the game code attempts to connect to a server prior to playing.

Hugodastrevas3d ago

And that happens when? I'm playing completely offline here, stellar Blade to be more precise.
I'm sorry but I've never run into that imaginary problem you're talking about, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it has never happened to me.

jwillj2k43d ago

You not running into the problem yet has no bearing on my argument. You’re acting like the medium is the shield for you being able to always play your games when it effectively is not. The game code itself can try to connect to a server or the console you’re playing on may receive an update that requires that game to connect to a server. Just because you haven’t ran into it doesn’t mean anything lol you don’t own your games no matter how you try.

Hugodastrevas3d ago

So I have never run into the problem you're talking about and your answer is an hypothetical? Look I can play any game of my library offline right now without issue.
That issue is in your mouth and alone.

Crows903d ago

Actually...there's an easy way...don't connect. If it doesn't require a connection and you don't connect...the code can't update...obviously....confused why you don't get what he's saying.

outsider16243d ago

Hold on..lets say i dnt have an online connection, can i atleast play the game offline though. Was thinking of getting this

jwillj2k43d ago

None of you use your brains.

OK, let’s explore this playing offline. not talking about Diablo specifically just gaming in general.

Are you going to buy two PlayStations? One offline one online? If not, moment you want to play something that requires a connection you’re cooked.

Does game experience you love so much stay the same offline?

Is the game even playable offline?

The whole point of my argument is that we don’t hold the keys anymore. The gatekeepers are the developers and console makers regardless of whether it’s digital or physical. You altering your play style for a lesser experience is not a workaround, it doesn’t solve the overall problem.

None of this matters since the move to the cloud is inevitable.

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spicelicka4d ago

So you have to buy the game and can only stream to the PS5 devices using PS plus premium? What is the point of that. Much more useful when you can stream to other devices.

MrNinosan4d ago

Works great on my Portal while at work 👍

spicelicka3d ago

That's streaming off your PS5, not from the cloud. This is specifically referring to cloud gaming.

CrimsonWing694d ago

Can’t you, uh, do this on your phone?

Tacoboto3d ago

Sony doesn't yet have a web or app-based solution to stream games off their cloud service, the closest you may be able to get would be Remote Play if they allow cloud streaming during a Remote session.

And yes this applies to the Portal too.

Einhander19723d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tacoboto

Please stop talking about PlayStation Streaming, you don't know what you're talking about.

I just explained this to you the other day where you were telling people that remote play was their only cloud solution, because apparently you didn't understand how PlayStation Premium works even though PS Now was a thing since shortly after the launch PS4..

You can stream to PC and Mac, and they had mobile clients for it in the past but probably for the same reason Microsoft is fighting Apple and Google PS Now wasn't allowed on App stores. Which is why it's not on iPhone and Android still.

And to be honest, I am glad they are trying to keep it on the console, all their moves away from the console seem like a step in the wrong direction, which isn't working so great for Microsoft...

anast3d ago

Blizzard is shoving this game everywhere. Diablo 4 is going to take an even bigger hit soon. Path of exile 2 is coming out and it looks insane.

Crows903d ago

Well they're about to release the next season...I think that might be way they're pushing the game again.

anast3d ago

I mean I get what you are saying, but D4 isn't doing that well either.

UnbreakableAlex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I completed it on gamepass. Thanks God I dint pay it full price. It plays like a lazy mobile game. I am not a pro diablo gamer (Diablo 1 was the only one I completed) but D4 has no atmosphere, no creepy feeling and soundtrack like the first one and its so easy, I managed to not buy any weapon and had 4 Million Credits on level 55. I always used the same 4 attacks from the beginning and died maybe 10-15 times. It's so easy, wtf. I remember D1 to be pretty hard.
WTF happened? Is Diablo 3 also that bad?

jwillj2k43d ago

Diablo 3 was my first Diablo game. I had to use the mailbox cheats to keep it interesting.

Crows903d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Diablo 3 was really hard at launch....then they made it easy.

They love scaling difficulty though.

anast3d ago

D2 is the pinnacle. I still fire it up from time to time.

GrmpyolGamer 3d ago

Considering that the PS cloud steaming is garbage compared to XCloud and is limited to certain devices this isn't something to brag about. Wake me up when Diablo is on PS plus

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PlayStation Doesn't Need a Dedicated PC Store Launcher

With all the PlayStation games that are now coming to PC, is it time for Sony to release a dedicated PC launcher?

thorstein19d ago

No, and they already solved any need with the overlay that's coming.

Vits19d ago

Unless they are trying to kill their recently created PC business, I would advise against opening a dedicated PC store. It's an extremely hard endeavor, and people, in general, are very comfortable with Steam. Even Epic, with their billions of dollars invested, is still struggling to find a foothold, and they have Fortnite.

just_looken18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Money is one thing security is another but again millions have 0 knowledge past 2020.

Epic store for years struggled with a shopping cart/account theft/credit card theft

Rockstar launcher/store to this day over 5 years later still has horrific user interface security flaws lost account's and stolen CC

Then you got that activision need phone number oh we lost it launcher

The crown jewel is the ea launcher/store ea app 3 yrs old still has hundreds of threads were people lost games/accounts/game access or just straight up crashes.

Edit" Oh ubi launcher were you buy a game that may or may not be there again or work and the launcher 5yrs old still has no 4K support if you launch it on a 4k screen there is a high chance it will just crash.

ocelot0719d ago

Can tell who ever put this together is not all that clued up on pc gaming.

It's just a known fact. The PC gaming community prefer Steam and Steam alone. They don't like different launchers. I personally don't mind them. But majority just stick with steam. Hence why EA and Ubisoft went back to on releasing on steam and why Microsoft release games on steam as people hated buying from the windows store.

The only other launchers that I imagine are doing ok is GOG due to being drm free and epic games due to the free games every week. Sony shouldn't release any sort of pc launcher n

Nitrowolf219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

It literally says in the OP that PC gamers don't like multiple launchers lol. It even mentions Steam being the go to for gamers

Tacoboto19d ago

Title: "PlayStation Doesn't Need a Dedicated PC Store Launcher"

N4G: "Can tell who ever put this together is not all that clued up on pc gaming"

When you don't even read the headline...

ocelot0718d ago

I read it and had a brain fart. As read the title then this "With all the PlayStation games that are now coming to PC, is it time for Sony to release a dedicated PC launcher?"

So I hold my hands up on that mistake. Rest of my comment still stands.

Giblet_Head18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Steam and GOG are highly preferred because of the rich feature set. Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, Epic etc have all set a precedent over the years for customers to instinctively expect individual publisher launchers to be so extremely half-assed that the majority simply don't want to bother dealing with what is almost an inevitable disappointment by comparison to Steam or GOG. Those publishers and their inaction or general disinterest to improve have effectively ruined any future adoption to be taken seriously.

Einhander197219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

This is just another ridiculous double standard article.

It's like how Microsoft can spend 20 years of making nothing but gaas and live service style games to sell microtransactions, dlc and subscriptions and get praise for doing it, but if Sony wants to make a single game like that every website under the sun is writing articles saying how Sony is anti-consumer or whatever.

derek18d ago

Yep, huge double standard look at the tortured reaction to the ps5pro, websites hyperventilating like Sony is forcing people to buy it.

just_looken18d ago

Wait my xbox from 2004 has avengers gaas on it? wow your so smart

m$ Gaas started with the other companies like sony

Gamepass yes they are deep into that but its still a huge money saver sense you do not own your games then get a service like that.

Now there pc xbox launcher that is trash for years now

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