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PlayStation Plus influences Microsoft's Games with Gold for Xbox One

"Microsoft, like its two competitors, finally realized that giving back to loyal subscribers is not such a bad idea, and is now following in the footsteps of its competitors by enhancing Xbox Live Gold for the Xbox One with added benefits similar to Sony’s PlayStation Plus program and Nintendo’s Reward System." - Tamika REDinFamy Moultrie

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Corpser3809d ago

Competition is good for everyone

Redinfamy3809d ago

Yes it is I would never beg to disagree, it forces companies to always think more or better than their competitor. I was waiting on MS to do this years ago. They had the set up there.

xSHADOWx3809d ago

LOL!
Copy copy copy!
This makes me sick.

Deal with it, you're going down Micro$oft.

Please get your own feature set, and stop playing catch-up.

WeAreLegion3809d ago

I'm gonna need you to calm down there, chief.

Wikkid6663809d ago

Xbox Live copies one thing from PSN+...
PSN copies everything else from Xbox Live...

Wikkid6663808d ago (Edited 3808d ago )

@Jiminip

Console that comes with network adapter
Match making
In game voice chat
Cross game chat
Friends list
text/voice messaging
Game marketplace
Pay to play gaming model
And I'm sure many more things.... so etc etc

TheSaint3808d ago

The 360 never had a network adapter that was a payable extra, unlike PS3.

Matchmaking has been around since the dawn of onine gaming, so not MS.

In game voice chat has been around since the dawn of online gaming, so not MS.

Cross game - fair enough.

Friends list isn't a MS or Sony invention.

Text and voice messaging was introduced with phones, so not MS.

Game marketplace was steam.

Pay to play isn't something to be proud of inventing.

TheSaint3807d ago

You can throw in a random disagree all you like, you know I'm right.

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jgrigs093809d ago

Someone is angry! Microsoft is not going down :).

falviousuk3809d ago

They let 4 year olds comment on here ?

Redinfamy3809d ago

I mean all the companies copy each other all the time. At least us gamers and consumers can get what we want out of all of them. But when innovation comes about we just have to support it, which doesn't happen a lot, thus the copying flourishes.

Nocando3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

Wow, I would venture to say that PS3 and 4 would barely have half of their features if not for MS.

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ziggurcat3809d ago

did they make it permanent, and not just leading up to the release of the xbone?

and if they're going to compete with PS+, they *really* gotta give out games that are a little newer than 5 - 7 years...

ziggurcat3809d ago

that's cool. i'm excited to see what they'll have in store for gold members.

Wikkid6663809d ago

Best part is they can't give us old games on One.

falviousuk3809d ago

The promotion is apparenly coming to xbox one as well sometime next year.

corvusmd3809d ago

Nice, but technically MS announced this idea first. Also keep in mind that XBl is actually investing more on actually upgrading their network service where as PSN has made no such upgrades yet

xSHADOWx3809d ago

How on earth can you say that?
Very ignorant.

Man_Son3809d ago

Yes the PSN is still terrible. I have a PS4 & it took a whole day for me to get online

falviousuk3809d ago

Probably due to the sheer amount of people trying to jump online at the same time. BUt yes PSN has always lagged behind Live

captain_slow823809d ago

party chat
streaming via ustream/twitch
play while downloading

im sure ive missed more upgrades (not got my ps4 yet :( 29th :D)

upcoming take control of friends games via streaming and then theres gaikai all of witch are network based.

so have they upgraded there network? i think we can both agree they have lol

ps+ is an awesome service how they can offers all the great games and all the upgrades to the network for the little they charge is beyond me :D

Redinfamy3809d ago

When did they announce this idea first ? Also PS+ was around before needed the money to upgrade servers. Club Nintendo on the other hand has a reward system without any of what MS or Sony has for up keeping.

MasterCornholio3809d ago

"Nice, but technically MS announced this idea first."

Nope Sony did.

PlayStation plus announcement E3 2010: http://www.gametrailers.com...

"Also keep in mind that XBl is actually investing more on actually upgrading their network service where as PSN has made no such upgrades yet"

False

"Recently, Sony explained the PlayStation Plus requirement for PS4 online multiplayer, saying it has ploughed a lot of resources into the online service to make it more valuable to gamers.

“The main pillar for the PS4 will be online play,” said Yoshida. “We’re developing many new ways to play and connect which requires a large investment of resources.”
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.c...

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TrueJerseyDevil3809d ago

To bad the games Microsoft gives you are complete trash so far, and i highly doubt they will get any better

H0RSE3809d ago

In hindsight, I see the games for gold feature better than PS+, and here's why:

PS+ may give players access to newer AAA titles to play, but it is essentially a rental service, like Gamefly. You can play them all you want, as long as you subscribe. Once you stop paying, you stop playing.

Game for Gold may offer older or lesser known titles, but they are yours to keep, regardless if you cancel your Gold subscription afterwards or not. The newest game I got from them, "Iron Brigade," was actually a game I was thinking of buying - now I don't have to, and the game is really fun.

Redinfamy3809d ago

I see where you are coming from and you make a good point. Then I hope for Xbox One they have it that the games are newer. As far as Sony i see why in the beginning they have it as a "rental" type of infrastructure. It was so it would not be abused at such a low price. Now since PS+ is needed it subliminally the rental feel is their but instead of a want, the service is now a need with perks.

captain_slow823809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

in hindsight do any of us gamers plan on dropping ps+ or xbl memberships anytime soon?

on xbox everything becomes useless without xbl gold (bar playing single player) on ps4 2 things become useless multiplayer and AAA titles that come with ps+

bottom line is we are all going to keep are memberships up so in my eyes ps+ offers way better value for money.

H0RSE3809d ago

But we are not talking about the services as a whole - the discussion and the article, is about the free games aspect. Although you bring up valid points, you are trying to shift the argument to your favor.

Hicken3809d ago

It's hardly anything to brag about when the games they give you are like $5.

Besides, what rental service allows you essentially unlimited simultaneous rentals as long as you subscribe?

Frankly, I'd rather have the "rental" of a dozen $50-60 games for as long as I'm part of the service- and, really, why wouldn't I be?- over a dozen $5-10 games that I've probably already played years ago, but get to keep.

Brix903809d ago

I guess Netflix, YouTube and other apps on Live are rental services from Xbox considering you can't use them without XBL.

Didn't like any of the game personally that they gave for Gold.

TrueJerseyDevil3808d ago

you need PS+ to play online for most games so why would you want to cancel your membership?

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JohnnyTower3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

I actually didn't mind dead rising 2 or assassins creed 2 for free. They had a halo in there somewhere as well for free.

H0RSE3809d ago (Edited 3809d ago )

@Hicken

You are using the cost and/or the age of the games to justify the quality of them? Really?...

You are also using your personal experience to form your opinion of the service overall. The fact that you "probably" already played the games offered by the GFG program, doesn't mean everyone else has. There are several games I have gotten that I haven't played yet, Rainbow Six Vegas and AC2 being two of them.

"Besides, what rental service allows you essentially unlimited simultaneous rentals as long as you subscribe?"

- Sorry. It's not like Gamefly, it's like a glorified Gamefly...that being said, Gamefly offers Unlimited PC Play for subscribers, allowing them to download and play PC games for free.

Hicken3809d ago

No, not the quality of them, but the value of the service, purely based on the games and their worth at the time they're "given" to you. The games gifted to you on Plus are generally valued at 4 times that of the games you're given through GWG.

The games they're choosing are, generally, rather popular games, or at least from popular franchises. Meaning the odds of someone having played them years before they got to GWG are considerably higher, than obscure titles. And the obscure titles they do give away cost pennies on the dollar.

Gamefly doesn't offer unlimited simultaneous rentals for consoles, does it? And that's what we're talking about, aren't we? GWG on Xbox versus Plus on PS. So why would you compare the PC aspect of Gamefly?

(As a sidenote, it seems to happen frequently that when Xbox fans runs out of points they failed to make in a console versus console debate, they resort to bringing in PC. I don't know why you all think it's relevant, but it is not, and never will be. Because, you know, CONSOLE DEBATE.)

H0RSE3808d ago

I don't see why you continue to debate this topic, as if you can win. It is an unwinnable and unloseable debate - it based around preference. No amount of sarcasm or clever debating tactics, can factual prove one service is better than other.

Perhaps during in your holier than thou mindset, when you were more concentrating on treating this argument like a contest and belittling xbox fans, you could've realized this. I gave my points as to why I find on service better than the other, and you gave yours. We obviously aren't going to see eye to eye, so we should just agree to disagree. Although I can see the merit in points, nothing you or anyone else says will convince me that PS+ is the better service, at least when speaking from the free games aspect.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7211h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple10146m ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos20m ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 5h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 2h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN20h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo21h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies17h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 5h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic15h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9015h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 7h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 6h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 3h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 6h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 5h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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