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Microsoft's Xbox One ad lists 1080p/60, Adaptive A.I and Exclusive DLCs in Bulletpoints

Microsoft just launched a new ad on their website. This ad has apparently focused on some of the highlights for Xbox One. Some of these points include "Support for 1080p/60fps for Cinematic Realism", Adaptive A.I and Exclusive DLCs for FIFA 14, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Battlefield 4.

1OddWorld3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Upscaled 1080p and 60fps every now and again.

When you think next gen "please" look no further than the XBOne, because you might just find it.

Fireseed3871d ago

Just wanna point out something here. You have all completely lost what it means to play video games. You can all keep counting your pixels, meanwhile I'll beat the hell out of a ice alien as a werewolf. Or repel a barbarian invasion on Rome. Concept and game play trump all.

GiggMan3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

They could have easily just said HD gaming but they specifically said 1080P 60fps...

You can still "beat the hell out of a ice alien" but you won't be doing it in 1080P 60FPS like Microsoft is trying to insinuate...

thekhurg3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

I'll play some free to play titles on launch day, deal with the Helghast, check out some great Indie games (especially the free ones), and participate in some social-inspired racing.

Oh and I won't be compromising graphics as much, but still having a lot of fun.

gaelic_laoch3871d ago

M$ were the first to lose sight of what gaming was about this upcoming gen by allowing their marketing team stick a dollar sign on every feature their device has!

Pogmathoin3871d ago

Fireseed, its better to pause the game and count polygons and resolution than it is to play the game, otherwise, what can you brag about?

BlackTar1873871d ago

Fireseed ,

i;m not blaming you but i am blaming the american media for turning video games into Comparison bragging rights.

All you have to do is compare the list of people who would gloat about 1 less screen tear to the list of people now saying its not that important to get a real feel for the hypocrisy on this site.

I still hold a grudge with the Ghostbusters debacle. That game was awesome and fun and got slandered thru the media and ended up costing it sales for sure. Ill never forget that one had a great time playing it but all you read about was slander and hate form the media for a month after its release.

DeadManIV3871d ago

And I will enjoy the offerings of Naughty Dog, Media Molecule and Sony Santa Monica, as well as Killzone and The Order. I love a good story.

cell9893871d ago

the times have changed, you cant get lazy with graphics anymore ala COD. High quality games now offer amazing gameplay, top notch gfx, and awesome story see The Last Of Us. Why constrict yourself to one side of the coin when you can have both

1OddWorld3871d ago

@Fireseed

You didn't exactly disagree with my statement. You just said gaming is the only thing that matters. Now I ask you who has the better gaming track record? Sony or Microsoft.

christocolus3871d ago

@fireseed
Will you be getting dr3 and ryse? Will definitly be playing co-op and multiplayer...eagerly waiting for halo5 and titanfall too...those games will cause a war on xbx live..ms had better get xbx live super ready for the launch of those games...and yaaay no more jerks

XtraTrstrL3871d ago

Then why even upgrade to a new console? They're still making games with great concepts and gameplay for current gen for a few more years. Going by your logic, there's no reason to even get a next gen system then.

hellzsupernova3871d ago

I lead that invasion in total war :)
But I agree I hate how everything is about power and frames and crap that doesn't matter
Guess what matters the games end of story. And I'm a bit of a playstation fanboy and avid pc gamer. but I won't put down people for wanting or buying or playing another console.

Bimkoblerutso3871d ago

@1OddWorld

I think the point is that it doesn't really matter who has the BETTER track record (if something like that could even be objectively proven in the first place).

All of the "big three" have made incredible, industry-defining games over the years, whether it be for pushing polygons or an incredible story or just damn fun gameplay.

Brand loyalty is a completely irrational and erroneous behavior in an industry that has so much more to offer than what is offered on a single console.

JokesOnYou3871d ago

Name which one of these bullet points dont exist at launch? Right, all of them do and will be only more prevelant throughout the life cycle of the platform.= Non story specifically created for n4g.

PsylentKiller3871d ago

@DeadManIV

I completely forgot about Media Molecule. Once they drop there game or ND drops theirs, I'll be picking up a PS4. For now I will stick with Ryse and DR3.

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DigitalRaptor3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

You're saying this like it's an old thing.

The same was happening this entire gen on the side of the 360 fanboys. Lens of Truth, pixel counting etc etc. It doesn't matter, as all the things the fanboys were saying about this gen have reversed and the same fanboys are changing their tune, pretending things they bragged about are not so important anymore - like they always do.

nukeitall3871d ago

If I wanted the best visual fidelity that money can buy, I would buy a PC. No console can touch PC, even with next generation consoles compared to PCs right now!

I buy consoles because I like the ease of use, the features and the exclusives. In that regard, instant switching, interactive TV, side by side gaming, smart matchmaking and Kinect makes my choice really easy. Top it off with games like Titanfalls, Ryse, Quantum Break, and Project Spark, and there is no question Xbox One is my first choice.

I still have PS4 on preorder though. Preordered the first day it was available, but other than KZ I don't see why I would want to keep it. Maybe I should just wait or sell the PS4.

LonChaneyTV3871d ago

It says they support 1080p 60fps, for games like Forza 5.

Resolution and framerate is still up to developers, always been this way for consoles.

Crazay3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

That's true fireseed....I think Nintendo proved (surprised even)that to every single one of us with the Wii.

thechosenone3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

And I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if it was the PS4 that couldn't do 1080p/60fps, right? Yeah right...

ForgivenZombie3871d ago

Exactly, also wait for 2nd and 3rd batch of games to see the consoles and what they're capable of.

TrollCraftTales3871d ago

@cell989
Most people would rather have both sides of the coin (Good Graphics and Good Gameplay) But if we were forced to choose one side or the other, I am sure most people would choose gameplay over graphics...

Hitman07693871d ago

@Fireseed Comment of the century.

jmc88883871d ago

Since when is 'gameplay' a reason it's ok to lie on your advertising?

It is a lie. Oh I know that legally it isn't a lie. But we all know what misinformation they are trying to wrongly place in people's heads....

That Xbox One will be a 1080p/60 machine, which is so isn't.

I don't even consider the PS4 that. But it's a hell of a lot closer, and actually will be having games come out this year that is 1080p/60 in some form or fashion.

Also power affects gameplay. You get better concepts and better ability to translate those into gameplay with more power.

Thus yes, power matters. Especially when the more expensive media machine has less power for gaming.

Pogmathoin3871d ago

Oddworld... Fireseed is talking about gaming, understand? He does not care about either company.... Understand? Thats hard to understand for some fanboys...

Army_of_Darkness3871d ago

Good lordie!!! 300,000 servers!?!? Sign me up ms and upscale me to 1080p pllllleeeease :-P

AbortMission3871d ago

Ryse is a trash game. Let's not pretend it's incredible simply because you're an Xbox fan (boy) lmfao

minimur123871d ago

I don't want to play the fanboy here, but I'm going to have to negatise a bit of this:
-Next Gen graphics :1080p/60fps - On select games
-Adaptive AI - From what it seems, Forza only.
-Your Choice: Buy trade sell etc. - REALLY listed as a feature?
-300,000 servers - How many of which are digital?
-The whole games plus entertainment section - at a cost of $60 a year. I can't believe services like Skype, nextflix are behind a paywall. Nearly everything is on X-1
-Game DVR - 5 minutes only, 3x less that PS4
-Next generation LIVE - wtf is this? every service always gets regular update, what MS are'nt updated live currently because theyre saving the updates for One. So they have multiple updates ready probably for the next few months/years

sorry, but most of this is the sort of thing that if you don't use your mind, it seems cool, but if you actually think about this, it's pathetic

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3871d ago

B-b-b-b-but Fireseed! All the cool kids on the internet are telling me that we're playing ROPS and FLOPS and RAMS!!!

ACE this!

I agree with you man. I blame hipsters and their stupid ways!

Deadpoolio3871d ago

It's no different than the moronic Xbots who beat their drums like Micro$haft about TIMED exclusive DLC...Again TIMED.....Most people don't care about waiting 30 days to get map packs.....

Meanwhile the exclusive things Sony gets generally stay EXCLUSIVE

quenomamen3871d ago

Yea, u still playing NES contra on a 15 inch color tube TV ? Bet your not even buying a next gen console right ?

FamilyGuy3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

It's a pretty nice ad, highlights many of the X1 features to entice people to buy it. It's exactly what the ad should be showing. They only have one title confirmed to be 1080p 60fps so they better get their act together and have more games at that level before they get sued for false advertisement. LOL, They had to add selling trading and playing used games as a "feature" because there are some people that still think they're blocking those things. Not everyone is as informed as a N4G reader, I had a buddy at work that didn't know.

I hope Sony post a similar list of all their features, from all the things I've read and heard about on here Sonys list would be huge in comparison to MSs but it's really all about the features you want, not just the quantity and for me Sony has both those aspects in check.

DragonKnight3870d ago

I love the fallacy of those trying to negate Fireseed's point by saying "then why are you getting a next gen console?" or "i bet you're still playing NES on a CRTV then right?"

Fireseed's point is valid even if he had the absolute best possible PC in the world. A new gen doesn't just mean upgraded graphics, it also means new games. Gamers these days are far too narrow minded.

Graphics are literally the most superficial aspect of games and many of you are just "judging a book by its cover."

bednet3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

Unfortunately, performance is not only linked to pixels, it's AI, physics, size of environments, quality of textures (which drives immersion), facial details (again immersion), number of entities on screen, particles, environment destructiveness.

Performance affects gameplay and game designers cannot overlook available performance when making design decision.

Docknoss3870d ago

@Fireseed that was badass and very well said.
@PS4Beaver punch yourself repeatedly In the face until I get tired.

boneso823870d ago

@fireseed

Concept? A 2D fighter and a QuickTime hack'n'slash... Awesome!

BuLLDoG9093870d ago

@Fireseed, no its MS who have completely lost what it means to play video games, with their entertainment box, trying to buy up 3rd partys so no other platform can experience them, instead of investing in their own 1st party studios.

MS, the company who this generation threatened any 3rd party to not dare release a game that performed better on ps3, or else it would not be allowed to release on the 360. And they were only in the position to even make them threats due to their big market share with the 360.
Im betting their not going to be in that position of authority with the xb1 this generation thankfully =]

Sono4213870d ago

Microsoft being deceiving?

No way.. i'm in shock :o <- My shock face

/s needed? I mean cmon this is a trademark thing for Microsoft if they didn't lie to you or try to deceive you they wouldn't be Microsoft, there should really be a meme about them already, they could easily be the new scumbag steve.. but instead maybe moneywhore microsoft? i'm sure something more creative can be thought up...

ThanatosDMC3870d ago

Just so you guys know Fireseed = MariaHelFutura.

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theBAWSE3871d ago

only ONE game has 1080p/60fps and that is a racing game with static backgrounds

and Microsoft wonder why they are ridiculed and the joke of the gaming industry right now

they make it to easy

MikeNike3103871d ago

Yeah forza 5s backgrounds do look a little cartoonish but the car models look amazing. I guess early on in the life cycle of a console you will have to make some comprimises. You can barely tell when your traveling over 100mph though.

tigertom533871d ago

their is a lot going on in the background when i saw the game, smoke, sandstorms, birds, helicopters and am sure their will be alot more in different tracks and most games do have static background..

Kingthrash3603871d ago

yeah most ps3/360 racing games have static backrounds....but are we comparing 360 to x1...nope...static backrounds are shameful for the hardware its built on.

Bigpappy3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

I done get what you people were expecting to see in the backgrounds of a RACING game. Should there be deer hunting or trees blowing around?

I am not getting this new spin at all. What is clear, is that the games looks sounds and plays better than any other racer shown so far (all at 1080p 60fps). Not sure what else it needs to be a great racing game.

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xRedline3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@theBAWSE

Let me fix that for you:

and Sony fanboys* wonder why they are ridiculed and the joke of the gaming industry right now

they make it too* easy

nypifisel3870d ago

@xRedline

Lol, who have ever ridiculed Sony? They have done everything right since the feb reveal.

xRedline3870d ago

Didn't say Sony, champ. I like Sony. I said Sony Fanboys.

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Eonjay3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Holy mother of deceptive advertising. For me, its all about being informed enough to make sure that I spend my money wisely. I just can't justify paying more money when I can get most of the same games, and better tech for a lower price. I don't want Xbox to fail, but I feel bad because in order for it to keep up, a lot of people HAVE to be deceived or willfully ignorant.

UnHoly_One3871d ago

Willfully Ignorant??

Seriously??

Maybe I want an Xbox One because with the exception of a few system specs, it does EVERYTHING ELSE better than Sony.

xHeavYx3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@Unholy
You made me laugh, but I have to ask, please, tell me what all other things the One does better than the PS4, and please, talk real gaming, not gimmicks

Eonjay3871d ago

@Unholy_One

You are fooling yourself and nobody is buying it. Just like most people here, you probably work hard for your money so yes you have the right to do whatever the hell you want. But have some self respect. You know you are being sold deception in this advert and still you defend it. What has Microsoft done for you to make you so willing to accept less and pay more? Respect yourself.

Microsoft doesn't give a damn about keeping their promise of 1080P 60FPS and you know it. You owe them nothing.

Software_Lover3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Ignorant if they want to play Halo? Or ignorant if they want to play forza? Oh I got it I got it. They are ignorant to purchase the console if they want to play ryse.

I think its pretty ignorant to get an Xbox if you want to play infamous or killzone. I think its ignorant to buy a playstation if you want to play project spark or other games above.

Never ignorant to buy a console for the games you want to play.

BlackTar1873871d ago

All unholy is gonna say is the Magical Cloud or the online which from anyone who is decently sane worked perfectly fine for both. Cross chat was the ket for MS and now that's gone.

Kingthrash3603871d ago

i second that question....

theBAWSE3871d ago

@ unholy... LMFAO

I guess it has better ram? nope

better first party developers working on it? nope

better price? nope

better reveal to the world? nope

a company that has a great track record for first party games? nope

better rechargeable controllers? nope

better stood upright? nope

better online features? nope

better Netflix and other apps accessible without a pay wall? nope

better indie support? nope

better results in gaming polls? nope

better PR team behind it? nope

better launch games that hasn't been reduced in features or graphics? nope

better name that hasn't been shortened to the point it's disrespectful and the head honchos at Microsoft hate it?nope

yep xbone is on a roll... you 'better' be a better fanboy

Eonjay3871d ago

@Software_Lover... thats fine. Be honest about it then. Don't act like Microsoft is giving you some sort of deal here.

Just say I like Halo and thats why I'm getting an Xbox. Don't pretend for one minute that you are getting a capable console that is somehow superior to anything.

I can tell you right now, if the Xbox was technically more powerful than the PS4 AND cheaper, I would be giving Sony the middle finger. I owe them nothing.

Kayant3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Ahhh we're on a similar page ;)

Like here ---> http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/x...

To quote MS - " In addition to Xbox One’s revolutionary architecture, the combination of its CPU, GPU and ESRAM is like having a supercomputer in your living room."

MS really a "Supercomputer". That's a bit excessive because we know they are only referring to the ESram's bandwidth. Also modern day mid-range to high-end gpus alone have that kind of bandwidth.

So what MS is trying to say in their own words is that having an XB1 in my house is like having a Personal Titan supercomputer. Right.... --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

AceBlazer133871d ago

Everyone has their right to choose which ever console, but don't try to make the ps4 look inferior just to make your choice sit right with you, especially when the ps4 is obviously better.

xHeavYx3871d ago

I got 12 disagrees, yet not a single person answered my question (and please, no "there is no need to argue" responses)

Goro3871d ago

@xHeavYx
Who cares, it's N4G...your comments will always get more disagrees unless it's some happy shit like "Thumbs up Sony" or "Yay Sony" etc...

Beastforlifenoob3871d ago

@TheBaswe
I guess it has better ram? Seriously wtf "better rame" you dont know jack sheet if you simply say better RAM and it sounds like your jsut taking that of what ither people are saying.

better first party developers working on it? What do you consider "better" some people may prefer dead rising or Ryse over KIllzone or the order etc... Thats personal opinion.

better price? True

better reveal to the world? Marketing has nothing to do with how good a system is.

a company that has a great track record for first party games? Forza, halo, deadrising (now), sure they are not as good as Sony's or Nintendos but you and I made the same point above its personal preference (I do prefer sonys though just saying)

better rechargeable controllers? True

better stood upright? WTF who cares which console can stand upright the best.

better online features? We don't really know yet but SONY's is shaping up to better.

better Netflix and other apps accessible without a pay wall? True

better indie support? nope . Both have good indie support weatehr you like it or not.

better results in gaming polls? Doesnt mean JACK.
If you did the poll on the XBOX forums it would be the otherway around(selective groupings and also people who enjoy one thing may specifcally like the PS4 where the poll was taken)

better PR team behind it? PR team wont affect your experience.

Docknoss3870d ago

Unholy one I agree, kinect + supior online + All my friends on xbox + the only exclusives I've wanted have all been on xbox = my reasoning for buying an xbox. Don't crucify me for having an opinion, its not like we live in communist china.

karl3870d ago

If u want to play halo or forza soo much just buy an xbone play the games and sell it.. but pls guys dont come here to defend that try of a console.. all its flaws are in the open and its just pathetic.

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gaelic_laoch3871d ago

XBONE

The No.1 upscaling device this holiday season!

Deadpoolio3871d ago

But TV you can watch TV....And have 2 devices on just to watch TV instead of just having your cable box hooked to the TV....

And I know I would totally trust the company that made a device in 2006 which had a 55% failure rate for the first 4 years of it's life, when they tell me that I can and should leave their new device on 24/7 and pay and extra $10 bucks a month for a "special" guide instead of just using oh I dunno the Satellite guide I already have

T23870d ago

my favorite is when people bust out the "its their money , shut up and let them spend it how they want"...

OK, well if you want to spend your money on a pinto, you are free to do so, but don't be surprised when people visibly point and laugh at your choice...

not saying xbone is a pinto, just saying the argument is weak.

Irishguy953871d ago

When you think next gen please look past 1080p and 60fps, sony promised them standard last gen. Oh and PC has been doing it since...well...forever

Now let the hypocrites strike...that's right, graphics only matter when comparing Xbox to Ps.

DeadManIV3871d ago

It only matters because PC is more expensive than both and xbone is more expensive than the ps4, yet weaker.

creatchee3871d ago

@Irishguy95

I'm still waiting for 4D gaming. I've given it 7 years and I'm about out of hope.

zebramocha3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@creatchee 4d gaming is procedural texture,just look it up.

specialguest3871d ago

@irish

exactly. They boast about having superior graphics, but completely change their tune when pc is mentioned. And too think they call pc gamers elitist and graphics whores lol. Seems like these Sony console boys are the real ruthless ones when it comes to comparing specs and graphics.

It was only a yr ago when they said 1080p made little difference and 60 fps didn't matter. Some even claimed with the false cliche fact that the human eye can't detect 60fps. Flash forward to today and now 1080p and 60fps is all the rage lol. Suddenly what pc gamers have experienced for yrs and console gamers said made no difference is the pinnacle of graphics and power.

jmc88883871d ago

People that game on ANY console and not PC were saying those things @specialguest.

Not all of them. Those that were ignorant.

Then they all saw the concept games of the Wii U, PS4, Xbox One and suddenly all these years claiming PS3 and Xbox 360 games looked better then any PC game went out the window. Well some fools STILL think TLOU or Halo 3 are better then any PC game. Talk about looney tunes.

Suddenly their console of choice had games that looked as good or worse then PC's (mostly worse) and suddenly there was this big gap....that had already existed with PC's for many years, but was willed away to not exist up to that point.

I like gaming on consoles and computers. I know corporations aren't there for my benefit. Therefore when they do right or wrong...when the make correct or incorrect decisions...when they tell the truth or lie out their butt...I call them or praise them on it.

insomnium23871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@irish

Yes absolutely. Sony PROMISED that every game will be 1080p and 60fps. They also TOLD people to have a second job to buy PS3.

I would reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally like to see you giving a link to a direct quote to this claim of yours. The xfanx truly are the worst.

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Mystogan3871d ago

Forza 5 is native 1080p 60Fps.
And I'm pretty sure all first party games will be like that.
They already announced that Halo 5 will be 60fps.

ziggurcat3871d ago

Greenberg said all xbone games are upscaled to 1080p, so no.

And none of the other first party titles, so far, are close to 1080p.

Considering the misinformation MS has shovelled in our direction so far, I wouldn't count on halo being 60fps. It could happen, but until we actually see gameplay footage, it's all hearsay.

ziggurcat3871d ago

that means nothing when an official statement from a MS rep says *all* games are upscaled. he did say forza was native 1080p in the same tweet, but completely contradicted that statement by saying all games were upscaled in the same breath. so what's the truth in this case? if some games are native 1080p, that's great, but clarify it by saying that some games are native, while some of them are upscaled.

the fact that he said *all* games indicates, to me, that there are no xbone games at native 1080p because how could there be any native 1080p games if they're all, as he stated, upscaled?

NewZealander3871d ago

typical (troll) first post...nothing new in X1 stories.

Magicite3871d ago

They dont exactly lie, but they also dont tell whole truth.

Chevalier3871d ago

@Dmitrijs88

Exactly they are just bending the truth. Like when they said Xbox One was selling out everywhere I had a good laugh, my store 'sold out' at 30 whole units when I had close to 200 preorders for ps4 already (currently 325 ps4 preorders vs. 52 xbox one preorders.)

Are you really going to believe microsoft because they say something? Remember when they told you that you didn't need HDMI to enjoy HD gaming? That you didn't need blurays, but, now decided they're going to include it? PS3 did everything and all the 360 fans were saying PS3 wasn't good for gaming only as a media centre and now all of them are like "Look at all these awesome features on Xbox One". Indies were cool on xbox live, but, now PS4 has more indie games and now they're saying PS4 only has indies?

Heck PS3 has a ton of games and 360 has next to nothing and now everyone is like look at all the games that are coming to xbox one just because they ran out of exclusives on 360 they're jumping into we got more games on xbox one. MS has such a great track record supporting gamers throughout the whole life of the system. Until it's proven otherwise exactly how can you trust MS? Considering how they wanted to screw you guys and still do where is this new found faith in them coming from?

Mystogan3871d ago

Why should we trust Sony instead?

They told us that the PS3 can run games at 120FPS.
http://www.tomshardware.com...

They told us to get a decent job if we want the $600 PS3.
The PSN service was hacked multiple times with thousands of credit card information stolen each time.
The PSN service went down for a month.

Quick to forget when it comes to Sony huh?

So why should I trust Sony any more than Microsoft?

tordavis3871d ago

Every game will upscale to 1080p and a lot will run at 60fps. Nothing in that ad is incorrect.

DoubleM703870d ago

Like these mofo can tell if something has been upscaled to 1080p or running 1080p native. Microsoft needs to stop being open with the public. Most of these fanboys wouldn't have known unless Microsoft wouldn't have open their mouths and told them everything is not running native 1080P.

OH BTW...The same for PS4 everything is not running native 1080P. Nobody not making a big deal out of that. I don't hear none of the fanboys complaining to Sony about their games not running native 1080P. Just get off of it. Enjoy your games.

xtremeimport3871d ago

Im just waiting for Halo.
till then, my Ps4 will keep me very very happy.

showtimefolks3871d ago

Good for you MS but I will wait and see since ou over promise and under deliver majority of the times

I was buying ps4 but now I am waiting till march-April because not much has catch my interest on either system. Good stuff like destiny,witcher 3,MGS5 is still far away

Hopefully there will be some great bundles by than and whatever needs to be worked out via a patch would have by than

Till than will enjy ps3

Beyond 2 souls next than
Diablo 3
Saints row 4
Watch dogs
Dlc for last of us and bioshock
Castlevania lords of shadow 2

So enough to hold me through this holiday season

ThatCanadianGuy5143871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

I absolutely love it.The way the xbox fanboys on this site (and you know who you are) bragged about pixels and framerates like it was the be all end all reason for 360's dominance.Nevermind the fact that 360 had no games for the last 3 years, of course.It was ALL about dem pixelz mang!

Now all of a sudden it doesn't matter? It's all about games again? Hmm, i wonder why.The bitter tears, flip flopping, wild theories of secret sauce and hidden power with NDA custom dGPU's..just LOL it's hilarious.The extreme denial and insanity they're going through since the pre-E3 reveal is just..it nourishes my soul.

Carry on being two faced hypocrites guys.I'm loving every second of it.

CrimsonStar3871d ago

lmfao what r u talking about?

DoubleM703870d ago

Vice or Versa they all do it.

solar3871d ago

there is no difference between this and Sony claiming the PS4 is a "Supercharged PC". its all hot air to over hype their product

tee_bag2423871d ago

Wow, so many children fanboys posting here. Its pretty clear that you parents only let you buy 1 console.

otherZinc3871d ago

There's only *ONE* next gen console that has a game that does both:
1080p "native" @ 60fps
AND, that game is...

Forza Motorsport 5 on XBOX ONE!

Period!

UncleGermrod3871d ago

Upscaled depending on the game. The system is capable of 1080p/60 frames, so why not advertise it? I think this is my last post here. I thought i would start getting involved with the "community" a little more and talk games. Instead it's full of the same stereotype gamers should want to distance themselves from: a bunch of whiny little kids who fight over graphics cards, and whose game is better, and who would win in a fight- MS or Sony. C'mon everyone, grow up.

I'll be on here reading articles but i sure won't get involved with the community.

Come Nov. 22 whatever the fanboys say won't affect my opinion.

And if your a real gamer, and a hard worker...then you will just get both (even if it means you have to wait for one).

Seriously think about how this fanboy nonsense all sounds and ask yourself if you really want to be reduced to a video game sterotype

BallsEye3871d ago

The F is wrong with you? It says clearly SUPPORTS 1080p/60 FPS. Not that every game will have it. You think other consoles will run everything 1080p /60fps? Stop with the nonesense. btw 1080p without AA and bad pixel quality is just pointless, looks worse than 900p, way worse.

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ethomaz3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

"1080p/60fps for Cinematic Realism" lol except Forza the others games doesn't seems to have cinematic realism.

pop_tarts3871d ago

And the main reason Forza looks somewhat decent "the new snow track didn't look to hot" is because they dont have many things that are graphics heavey 1.Day/Night cycle 2. weather 3. A variety of features (different type of trees for example) on the same track. Compare that to DriveClub, which isn't the same type of game but GT isn't out for PS4 yet. and you'll see the difference that's why DriveClub is trying to reach 60 because it's 1080p with massive detailed world and Day/Night cycle

showtimefolks3871d ago

Still no day and and night cycles

Pop-tarts

You are spot on my friend but fanboys don't see that GT6 is achieving more on current console that forza is trying to offer on next gen

GT6 will out sell forza by a huge margin
Also people are sleeping on drive club, evolution studios have made a name for them self and I see DC doing quite well

Yo Mama3871d ago

"The All-in-one entertainment system"

Yep, Jack of all trades, Kings of none.

Xsilver3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

KI-720p 60fps
Forza-1080p 60fps
Ryse-900p 30fps
DR3-720p 30 fps
hmmmmmmmmmmm only one of their games does that http://funny-pictures-blog.... .

ABeastNamedTariq3871d ago

Killzone's multiplayer, DriveClub (well, for now it's 1080p, they're targeting 60 frames), Resogun, maybe Infamous, and others I'm probably forgetting. Native 1080p, all that stuff, you know.

But why bring up PS4?

Kayant3871d ago

Driveclub - 1080/30fps
KZ:SF - 1080p/30fps in SP 60fps "at most times"
Knack - 1080p/ unsure of framerate

Indies

Resogun -1080p/60fps

Irishguy953871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Em...Resogun...Killzone tries it. Resogun doesn't count though. I'd say it's likely that Forza won't get 60fps locked either though, same with Killzone multi. Let them try.

Funny though, people are gonna call MS on this, when Sony put 1080p on their Ps3 box. At least MS will able to consistently release games that are actually that res and FPS. Not just 1 or 2 at the start of the gen. Forza is actually a game that is actively trying 1080p at 60FPS. Indies don't really count as they can hit those easy, just like alot of indie PC games. Comparing Resogun to Killzone or Forza is quite pathetic

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Yes BAWSE, why the hell would you count a little indie game like Resogun? Those games are always leniant compared to the likes of Forza and Killzone. It would be utterly pathetic if something like Resogun did not release @ 1080p/60FPS

Kingthrash3603871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

i thought kz was 60fps mp 60fps(unless everybody throws a gernade at the same time)
maybe im wrong but i know all are 1080...but it matters not...its not sony putting out ads to the public its MS

theBAWSE3871d ago

the logic of a 360 fan boy..

@irishguy95 'resogun is 1080p/60fps and a ps4 game but it doesn't count'

this my friends is the logic of Microsoft fan boy go figure

Xsilver3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Deep Down 1080p 60fps
KZSF 1080p 30SP 60fps MUltiplayer only drops if u do something crazy
DriveCLub 1080p 30fps as of right now
Knack 1080p idk fps yet
Infamous 1080p idk fps yet
Resogun 1080p 60fps
Notice all are 1080p native i can't find info on some but u get the picture. see how they always bring up the PS4 like they made an ad like MS did when only one of their games is 1080p and 60fps smh.

kickerz3871d ago

@ abeast .. "Why bring up PS4" LMFAO yeah why the hell does every Xbox comment section have people bringing up pS4 is better bla bla bla BS. Oh I forgot most of u lot are like annoying 10yr old school kids who have nothing intelligent to say.

pop_tarts3871d ago

@Irishguy95

There's nothing special about KI and yet it can't even hit 1080p/60fps it's a downloadable "free to play" game but on the other hand Deep Down can hit 1080p/60fps. Resogun may be an indie game but it is definitely graphics intensive so saying it should be able to hit 1080p/60 easily is like saying Knack should hit 1080p/60 it depends on how much the devs wants to show us and if they want to be flashy they better make sure everything is on point to make it flashy or suffer lower res or lower framerates.

BallsEye3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@ABeastNamedTariq

Have you even seen newest builds of these games? they don't even look 1080p. It's all an upscale or very awful pixel quality

http://cdn2.dualshockers.co...

Direct feed, click again for full res.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/K5fP...

And kZ?

http://cdn.shopto.net/ShopT...

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

This you call 1080p next gen?

@Kayant

Waiting for you to post 4k res wallpapers or render and claim it's gameplay..

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gamertk4213871d ago

The developers control that, but you can't say the system itself doesn't support 1080p/60fps. That is beyond contestation.

jgrigs093871d ago

Yet, Ryse looks way better than most of those PS4 games?

Kingthrash3603871d ago

yeah and it looks more boring than most too...watching multiplayer ai wait to get killed gets pretty old fast.

MikeNike3103871d ago

Can't judge a system by its first batch of games. They're usually rushed and dev kits are in premature stages. Give the developers some time to get the hang of the hardware.

Rainstorm813871d ago

Exactly

Compare Halo 3 to Halo Reach or Halo 4....and Halo 3 isnt even a Launch game

..Or Resistance:FoM to Killzone 2 let alone 3..or Uncharted DF to Last of Us

These Devs get better as time goes and launch games normally dont show us even half of these consoles capabilities

A pissing contest over launch games graphics is laughable....Gameplay is whats most important,

Legacy2123871d ago

you want to show me a link that says dead rising is 720p? or do you just want to spout jargon and misdirection

Magicite3871d ago

things may change until launch

dethpuck3871d ago

who cares. They will probably all be upscaled to 1080p. Did I ever not play uncharted or mlb the show, or any resistance because they weren't 1080p? no. If you just want to play the games you like, no of this stuff matters.

Xbox has the infrastructure of xbox live, and my friends. I will eventually have a PS4, but nothing at launch is grabbing me. second Son looks excellent, but by then titanfall will be out.

otherZinc3871d ago

@Xsilver,

What game is PS4 releasing that's both:
1080p "native" @ 60fps
like Forza 5?

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Godz Kastro3871d ago

PS4 must be boring you guys to death.

Eonjay3871d ago

Not really. I don't want to see people make a bad decision just because they are technically illiterate.
It sucks, but people are going to buy the Xbox actually thinking that it can deliver 1080P@60FPS for most of the content. Its sad really. I hate to see people get ripped off.

GiggMan3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

I agree. Especially if you shell out more for a 1080P television you are going to want 1080P content.

The only products available for your TV with 1080P content are blu-rays and according to Microsoft, Xbox One games.

I think that's shady advertising myself.

Wikkid6663871d ago

Pure GS fanboy statement

Legacy2123871d ago

-_- bad decision i didnt know playing the games i want to play is a bad decision. Sorry knack and drive club dont interest me. i beat killzone 2 and 3 and can say that shadow fall doesnt interest me as much as titan fall. Sorry for having an opinion different then most of these fan boys. Resogun is an arcade game like super star dust which doesnt interest me. The amount of hours i put into gears of war 2 or halo 4 i couldve beaten the last of us 12 times. I beat the last of us AMAZING single player experience one of my fave games this gen but after i beat single player there was nothing to do. dont be ignorant and hate on people for not wanting a ps4. Maybe when naughty dogs new game comes out then ill look into buying it. I never played infamous series so second son doesnt interest me at all.

Rainstorm813871d ago

Then obviously LEGACY he wasnt talking to you specifically, Reading is Fundamental

To say that you've never played Infamous but the new one doesnt interest you at all, then say you are looking forward to Titanfall another game you have never played....Makes you look like a Hypocrite

But I bet you love Prototype and Crackdown huh?

Just say you enjoy Xbox games only...No need to waterboard us with your gripes on good Games

baodeus3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@eonjay

1. I'm guessing u gonna give both consoles the finger and go for PC instead (it definetly does everything better and more)

2. Even if some how u getting the ps4, I'm thinking u wont support PS Vita TV?

3. Most importantly, did u buy the pS3 or convince people not to buy the ps3, because 99.99% of its content didn't ran at 1080p,120fps,4d as advertised?

Legacy2123871d ago

RainStorm
the comment is bad for me since according to eonjay buying an xbox is a bad decision and make me technically illiterate. I did like prototype and i did like crack down. Now im not talking bad about infamous but if i were to get a ps4 i am too far behind in the series to appreciate infamous second son. Also you cant say i only like xbox games. I have beaten uncharted 1,2,3 GOW 3, MGS 4, Heavy Rain, The last of us, LPB, playstation all stars and resistance 1. Uncharted is one of my favourite game series with Drake being one of the fav Characters. But i can say i prefer xbox exclusives cuz those are the ones i played multiplayer all the time with my friends. I can say when i look at titan fall and when i look at infamous second son i can say im more excited to play titan fall. That is not to say infamous wont be a good game but im more of a multiplayer gamer. It really erks me when i come on n4g and read comments from people trying to conince me im stupid for wanting an xbox one when its all a matter o preference.

hazardman3871d ago

BS!! It just another chance to troll!! Your not helping anyone at all. Most people buying an Xbox One know what they're getting into. Also most early adopters are Xbox 360 players.

I truly don't understand. Are we losing our focus on gaming over graphics and power? I play games with great story and gameplay and fun!! Good graphics just enhances the experience! Shit I was playing Sonic 1 and Streets of Rage 2 and I don't think that 16bit graphics was bothering me one bit!!

Xbox One seems like a great console. I have it pre ordered but will be canceling it soon. There is to many changes going in on in the hardware side and so close to launch. Im gonna wait it out till April and enjoy my PS4 til then. I just wanna see how it goes til then and play it safe!!

CrossingEden3871d ago

I love how everyone is ignoring the fact that AC4 is confirmed to be 1080p and 60fps on next gen consoles, INCLUDING the xbox one. -_-
Smartest comment on this board is
"The developers control that, but you can't say the system itself doesn't support 1080p/60fps. That is beyond contestation."
I happen to still be waiting on my 4D, 1080 and 120 fps ps3 game.
Sony said so SO obviously it's automatically true!!!!
http://www.ign.com/articles...
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
http://www.psu.com/a1063/4D...

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tigertom533871d ago

Sony is pretty quite.... Yawn!!!

Beastforlifenoob3871d ago

Thats because they already have the marketing in the bag as they are alreading beating it for next gen.

corvusmd3871d ago

There's nothing exciting about it to talk about...that's why PS fanboys are all about trying to bash XB1 at any given moment. If they can't look good...make the other guy look bad. For a system that's 50% more powerful, why aren't there more AAA games that consistently hit 1080p 60fps? Why does their Network service get utterly CRUSHED by Xbox Live, so they never want to talk about it...or if they do, it's instantly "teh powa of da cloudz"...like they have no clue what they are talking about, and just want to belittle it with trash talk. It's all see-through. Insecure fanboys that just want the XB1 to fail...then claim they like PS4 cause they are true gamers...but apparently you can only have fun playing games if it's THE best looking game ever (so by their own opinion, if you aren't playing ONLY Last of Us, you're not a true gamer cause everything else looks worse), and isn't upscalled in any way(like they can tell the difference). They are just stupid insecure kids who can't admit that PS4 is not the beast they want it to be.

True_Samurai3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

Steps to take with this comment
1.) Agree
2.) Give it a well said bubble
3.) Deliver comment

Oooo kill em' lol hit the nail on the head

GTgamer3871d ago (Edited 3871d ago )

@Corvusmd i guess u can admit that the xone also isn't the beast u wanted it be too am i right. Half of the crap u say is clear evidence that u expected the xone to quickly dominate the PS4 but since that didn't happen your angry understandable.

xKugo3871d ago

We have only 2 of our 14 first party studios that have announced a game for next-gen. Wait until e3 when Xbox gets blown out of the water. You think the same studios that made the best looking and most memorable games of this generation aren't going to be pushing out 1080p/60fps on PS4? Lol, yea ok. Did you see what they did on GOW3, Last of Us and Uncharted 3? That was with 512 mb of RAM. They're going to have at least 5gb to work with, which is 10x more than the ps3 has altogether. When e3 2014 is over and PS4 has something like 20+ games compared to Xbox's 3, then we'll see how you feel then.

SpadeX3871d ago

Oh really? Are you implying that Xbox fanboys wouldn't have bashed the PS4 if Xbox One was more powerful and cheaper?

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken4h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot6h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno5h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos4h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

Eonjay5h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz4h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay4h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Tacoboto3h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman5h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff21835h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast17h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech512h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom14h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218314h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus2314h ago(Edited 14h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-10h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast17h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast13h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim13h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast8h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman15h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto14h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA14h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda14h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14913h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT12h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor7h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic188112h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead16h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson15h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218314h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2313h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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Microsoft Closes Redfall Developer Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks, and More

Microsoft has closed a number of Bethesda studios, including Redfall maker Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush developer Tango Gameworks, and more in devastating cuts at Bethesda, IGN can confirm.

Moegooner1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Hi-Fi Rush studio??? Seriously?? Goes to show quality matters lil to MS.

Worst gen ever. All big 3 battling are for who sucks the most. They just keep one upping one another.

-Foxtrot1d 15h ago

This does feel like a “quick Sony is getting shit on for Helldivers, let’s announce it now to minimise impact”

thesoftware7301d 15h ago

That is silly. Let's say there is some weird conspiracy. This announcement would effectively take ALL the attention away from the HD2 situation, especially since there is no longer an HD2 situation. I don't think anything will minimize this impact.

Tacoboto1d 15h ago

... so they announce it on a Tuesday? 36 hours after Sony cleared up everything?

You people care more about the next conspiracy than anything else.

Nevermind that Sony followed the golden rule of minimizing impact by announcing horrible news on a Friday.

Eonjay1d 15h ago

The constant weekly weird Sony drama is part of the industry's problem. Everyone else feels they can get away with murder. Also, what is the point of spending all that money if you just start shutting studios down. And... Redfall wasn't Arkane's fought. Microsoft new the shape the game was in but needed something for GamePass after a whole year of no releases into the service. Them taking it out on Arkane seems really disingenuous and distasteful. And WTF did Tango do? Didn't Todd just release a statement saying how he would never retire. Fire his ass.

romulus231d 14h ago

Well if that was the reason for the timing it didn't work.

darthv721d 14h ago

wow... i did not have them closing Tango and Arkane Austin on my bingo card.

Hofstaderman1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Yes it does. Arkane Austin I can understand but Tango Gameworks made an excellent game in Hi Fi Rush.
On review, it want really all on Austin for Redfall and its failure, they were forced to make a multiplayer games when their expertise was always single player driven first person games.

-Foxtrot1d 13h ago

Guys I’m not being all that serious…relax

Outside_ofthe_Box1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

"I don't think anything will minimize this impact."

It already has. Notice your comment(or lack there of) vs HD2.

On another note, I would like to see Microsoft buy more studios and do more shadows drops on subscription services like they did Hi-Fi Rush. It's great for the industry I was told by people on here.

Zeref1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works. Same thing with layoffs. All of a sudden everyone has layoffs around the same time

Cacabunga1d 10h ago

MS will always make it to amaze me by showing the worse version of themselves every single time..

peppeaccardo1d 10h ago

MS proving to the world that ttheir leadership cannot drive success from these new acquisitions. They have ran the numbers and they have realized that long term, without a clear direction from the motehrship, these are a loss for the company hence they need to be cut. I might be wrong but I am absolutelly sure that if these developers would have not been purchased by Microsoft they would be still on business. A shame ...

senorfartcushion21h ago

Both things have happened but N4G's commenters (90% Playstation ) will follow suit

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Einhander19721d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

10/10 deflection, the ol' Sony too deflect...

Let's not discuss the fact that PlayStations struggles have largely been caused by the fact that game pass has reshaped how consumers spend causing them to spend less as they play what is on subscriptions and don't buy games as much because they either have become subscription gamers or they fear the game will come to a subscription so they don't buy things.

And it's not just PlayStation, the whole industry has been effected, many big studios are struggling across the board to match sales targets from pre-game pass releases which is especially apparent in things like sequels.

Heck the best example was Microsoft's own Starfield which should have easily blasted past 10m sales by the end of 2023 going by sales of similar Bethesda games yet was only able to achieve 3m which of course was almost entirely on Steam.

Moegooner1d 15h ago

Or maybe it's because Sony hasn't released multiple worthwhile SP games like they normally do each gen and the ones they did released actually sold well.

Layoffs aren't because studios are struggling, but because major publishers want to maximise profit gains.

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Absolutely it's a service that's changed the way we view and consume games overall for the worse games have little value when they are part of a sub and become disposable doubly so if they are a day 1 freebie often it's the kiss of death for a game to be day 1 on gamepass as PlayStation players look at it like why do I have to pay 60 dollars for back 4 blood, payday 3 or outriders it'll be on PS plus soon enough and funny enough those games always fail to meet expectations sales are poor and longevity is poor.

When I see a game get a day 1 tag outside of first party my first thought is always something is wrong with it and it can't stand on its own feet so the publisher has made a deal to recoup development cost.

Even first party games have dropped in quality noticeably so since gamepass with gears 5 being the only good release I can think of since gamepass started

Petebloodyonion1d 14h ago

Wasn't aware that Gamepass is available on PlayStation.
Or are you telling us that a service from a console lacking in sales is so great that it affects the morale and buying habits of ppl lacking access to the service?

Also pretty sure that saying all of them competing for who sucks means the whole industry and not just Sony and MS.

Nitrowolf21d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

This is what people online want. They just don't know or understand it. So many have warned about consolidation, and exactly what they have fear has been happening

This isn't the end, expect more bought out studios to be closed in the next few years

Hofstaderman1d 14h ago

Spot on. All in the name "growth" to appease investors and shareholders. Can't sustain the lie though...it will always implode as illustrated by these closures. Applies to MS and Embracer.

TiredGamer1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

This. ^

Publishers are slowly mitigating all development risk since every new big/medium budget game has become too big to fail. Games are too expensive to make and the profitability for titles rests on a hair’s edge. When you need to sell 5 million copies of a game to be profitable, you know that we’ve turned a new page in gaming. The real victims here are the smaller studios/games that bring so much character and variety to the industry, like with Hi-Fi Rush.

It looks to me that Hi-Fi Rush did not fulfill financial expectations for moving the GamePass needle, and the sales from the PlayStation port experiment did not measure up either. So it gets the boot.

Sad day and era for gaming.

notachance1d 4h ago

yeah smaller ABK studios like Toys For Bob are now in dangers

notachance1d 14h ago

I just don’t know how the hell a company that can spend $67b to purchase a publisher decided that it’s okay to close the studio that produces their best game last year.

Whoever the higher up there that decides this is completely out of touch of how the game industry works, the damn xbox division as a whole would’ve been closed already if they weren’t sustained by other MS divisions.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

I got in an argument with someone on reddit and they weren't haven't that Xbox isn't propped up by other divisions argument. They swore up and down that Xbox was pulling its own weight. I just stopped after a couple back and forths

TiredGamer1d 8h ago

Didn’t move the GamePass needle and the PlayStation port couldn’t save the return on investment….

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dumahim1d 14h ago

So this is what happens when you're pleased with the sales and investing in the studio? Good guy Phil at it again.

Sonic18811d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

From Aaron Greenburg:

"Hi-Fi RUSH was a break out hit for us and our players in all key measurements and expectations. We couldn’t be happier with what the team at Tango Gameworks delivered with this surprise release."

😂😂😂 🤥🤥

Lightning771d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Once again MS creates their own problems and they create their own animosity. Idc about their shitty excuse and "reasons" they're a incompetent company, plus all their Xbox fanboy influencers are dwindling I noticed. How many excuses can you make for a company like MS? Consoles are down and they're losing their own fanboy influencers also. That's all they had to cheer lead them now they're leaving them. Pretty nobody will be on MS dude no matter if they (if they ever but I doubt it) get their act together.

Trashy ass ppl and company....

If they go under eventual it's because of their own doing nobody else's.

porkChop1d 10h ago

Yeah overall this gen is pretty shit. Everyone is making horrible decisions, great devs are getting either gutted or entirely shut down regardless of quality or success, very little in the way of innovative games, etc. This industry needs to see some drastic changes.

badz14923h ago

where are all the cheerleaders for MS acquisitions amid all these?? you guys happy now? this will not be the end of it, maybe just the beginning!

OptimusDK15h ago

Maybe it has to do with this:
Hinji Mikami is leaving Tango Gameworks in the coming months.On February 23 it was reported that Mikami would be departing Tango Gameworks. Bethesda has stepped in to confirm the report of Mikami's forthcoming departure from the studio he founded over a decade ago.

Mikami originally founded Tango Gameworks in 2010 after departing Capcom, having lead the development of iconic games like Resident Evil and Resident Evil 4.

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shadowT1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Tango Gameworks and Arkane?

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago

Arkane Austin (Prey developer)
Not Arkane Lyon ( Dishonored developer)

Crows901d 14h ago

Prey was fantastic. Red fall was shit because they were forced to do shit they didn't want to make.

Atkane Lyon did death loop I believe....I hated that one.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

I personally liked prey more.

RaidenBlack1d 13h ago

@shinoff2183
Because Prey was creative and different
Other than the live service Redfall, all other single-player Arkane projects have been creative and interesting

Tankbusta401d 13h ago

@Crows90

So just because people don't want to do something in life...bad quality is excused? Look what happened over that bad quality? no more studio

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MrDead1d 14h ago

Will be more soon, I've said it before I can't see MS keeping Bethesda. I think they'll strip it's IPs and slowly close everything, it's what they do.

VariantAEC1d 13h ago

No one wants to admit it, but yeah MS has a long history of pillaging other smaller corporations for IP and dispensing with everything else.

Zeref1d 11h ago

That doesn't make any sense lol. How would they make money from these IP'S with no developers?

MrDead1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

@Zeref
"That doesn't make any sense lol. How would they make money from these IP'S with no developers?"

MS don't care about the studios, they want the IP's. They'll keep the big ones in house, the game engines they run on and licence the rest. Stacks of cash to be made from licensing IP's ...or just sit on them so no one else can use them.

blackblades1d 7h ago

@Zeref silly fool, buy them for the IP have there other studios make the games using the IP names to sell them. We all know having a popular franchise name can sell

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Einhander19721d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Well xbox fans you got what you asked for... and honestly deserved...

It was so easily predictable that game pass was never going to be able to support all these studios.

If Microsoft can't win they are going to burn it all to the ground...

Countdown to Phil Spencer telling us "it's better for the gamers this way" yet again.

Barlos1d 14h ago

Agree but gamers didn't ask for people to be out of work.

VenomUK1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

@Barlos They indirectly did. Every person who made a wish list of who Microsoft should buy next and were sending tweets to Phil Spencer and Xbox with proposed studios, played a part.

The saddest part is the studios were closed because of the underperformance of their last games, and if they had been given a chance then their next games could’ve been great and succeeded. But it is the same old Phil Spencer Microsoft problem which is not giving them a chance, and that’s why he is not able to manage game studios.

VariantAEC1d 13h ago

Yeah they did. Just because they refused to see what everyone with a brain was telling them doesn't mean they didn't know. They were told, they should've put up a fight and they didn't. This is the result. But who knows even if MS' fans weren't such boot-lickers, MS could've carried this out against their fans wishes anyway. Unfortunately, we have the hardcore MS defense bots running to deflect from any bad news and maybe, just maybe, MS felt empowered to do more damage as a result of their fans cheering this all on.

anast1d 12h ago

They sold themselves out. Once people buy you they can do what they want. None of this should have been a surprise. When companies get bought out, they eventually get dismantled.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

Xbox fans were to busy daydreaming of Ms curbstopping Sony they didn't look at the big picture.

Einhander19721d 13h ago

Not disagreeing at all.

I want to add that from the day Microsoft announced game pass, before they even started buying up studios it was obvious that game pass wasn't going to be able to support itself.

It was so dumb that they doubled down on it by spending 100B on a service they knew only existed through subsidization.

They should have realized there was no way that adding massively more costs on a subscription they were subsidizing was certain to fail. Especially after seeing how it had devastated sales across the platform as a whole.

Heck by the time this generation started during covid when the console sales were similar PlayStation was already outselling xbox on multiplatform games 8:1 yet they still doubled down on it.

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Relientk771d 15h ago

This is beyond wrong. Like wtf!? Especially Tango Gameworks with Hi-Fi Rush. I've heard nothing but good things about that game. Just because Arkane Austin screwed up one game release doesn't mean you need to close them. It sounds like they were forced to do a multiplayer game when they're a single player studio. They could have made a Prey 2 or some other game next.

Just wow awful news.

Einhander19721d 15h ago

Apparently PlayStation owners didn't buy enough copies of Hi-Fi Rush...

romulus231d 14h ago

"Xbox says Hi-Fi Rush was a success "in all key measurements" amid rumors of poor sales. Following rumors that Tango Gameworks' Hi-Fish Rush didn't meet sales expectations, Xbox marketing VP Aaron Greenburg is defending the "break out hit" as a success by all metrics."

According to Aaron Greenburg it was a success so they shouldn't have even needed PlayStation owners to buy it. That being said, I bought it and really enjoyed it, it's a great game. Shame MS closed them down.

RpgSama1d 14h ago

@Romulus23

All lies by the Green Bug, that just means that a lot of people fired bullets or whatever in the game, that's the key measurements they care to share.

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game.

Crows901d 14h ago

That's usually what happens when you don't release it at the same time as other platforms....same thing happened with tomb raider reboot sequel. MS got exclusivity for a year and then when it came to PlayStation it barely sold. Nobody cared anymore.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

Still waiting on the physical release pre order window

VariantAEC1d 13h ago

Well... I did my part. Hi-Fi Rush is a good game, but I don't think its MS' style. We don't really know how well it did or didn't perform by the numbers or whether it broke even. This could just be another MS blunder.

Elda1d 11h ago

Exactly. MS purchasing a 3rd party studio & keeping games off of other platforms probably hurt them in the long run, then finally putting Hi Fi Rush on PS which in turn PS fans probably didn't care to buy & support Hi Fi Rush after a year later of release. Hi Fi Rush was released on Gamepass so it probably never really made any money selling solely.

Eonjay1d 11h ago

@romulus23

Let's hope it didn't sell well because that would make this worse. Also I could have sworn I read an article about their next game in the works.

Seraphim1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I was wondering if that played any part considering the timing, though, XB claimed the game to be a success last year only on XB & PC. Regardless MS f'd up there too. They shadow dropped HiFi on XB/PC last year at the perfect time. This year when they released on PS not only had the hype died, but there were so many solid games available the first 3 months of this year to play.

I almost bought it on PC last year, but now that it dropped on PS I just have far too many games to play to bother...

If MS needs PS and even Switch sales they need a better strategy. At the very least a release date where players are more inticed to buy said game. The problem is always going to be that if they want exclusives the hype for these games will be dead a year later. The exceptions might be some of their heavy hitters.... 2 cents

Angyobangyo20h ago(Edited 19h ago)

PS and PC owners probably bought more copies that Xbox owners.

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CrashMania1d 15h ago

I can only imagine the little amount of revenue both games generated, sent straight to gamepass and excluded from the largest current gen console userbase. Not to say both games would have done well if they were on PS5 too, but you heavily damage to a games revenue when you put it on a stagnating sub service for a poorly selling console, can't really see people going out in droves to sub to GP to play this.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

Gamepass subs(most of Xbox players) don't buy games all like that so it's not sustainable. It's reality.

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago

Yea Austin made one of the most creative game of last gen with Prey and were forced to take risk with Redfall and now the whole studio is being closed.

Aphrodia1d 14h ago

Yes, that Tango gameworks/ Hi-Fi closure was an eye opener for me as well. Neither played it nor was interested in it myself but all I heard was everyone acting like it was the second coming of guitar hero or something.

I don't know what else to say other than modern gaming is an overwhelming sea of mediocrity and there's not enough voices of reason speaking up and saying that most games made these days are just not very good.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

Your playing the wrong games then. There's always been shovelware type games. Going back to wii, snes, nes, ps1 Xbox og. That's a bs blanket statement. As an older gamer since atari days I'd personally say this is a great time. If you can't find anything to play. That's on you

With all that said in no way or form am I speaking of multi-player games, gacha, or whatever. I'm strictly speaking on single player games.

Aphrodia1d 11h ago

you are hilarious. trying to validate your comment by excluding over half of the games out there today. Pathetic man.

Neonridr1d 13h ago

I'm more devastated at the loss of The Evil Within.

Chevalier1d 3h ago

Wait I was told Xbox had great engagement numbers?! Some Xbox fans said they bought games when I told them Xbox customers don't buy games?

So Xbox bought studios to keep games off other platforms and forgot they conditioned Xbox customers to not buy games. Whoops.

So anyone else think Outer World's 2 dies 🤔? I'm thinking a small game losing out on Nintendo and Playstation gamers buying will kill this IP. But it's okay Xbox fans can get more COD! Halo, Gears and Forza! Woot that's a 'win'. Yay Gamepass FTW

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CrashMania1d 15h ago

Can't wait to see the usual try spin and play this down. So much for the heroic MS and Phil saving these studios eh.

Eonjay1d 15h ago

By the end of the day IGN will be talking about how this is right for the industry. Don't worry, Microsoft's PR is making the call now.

RpgSama1d 14h ago

Tango did NOT deserve to be closed down, they have not released a single bad game, and I'm sure Arkhane failed just because they were both rushed and pressured into making a GaaS game they had no experience in doing and no support to get it completed out of the gate.

PrinceOfAnger1d 15h ago

Not a big deal only hi fi rush was good

Sony has closed
Manchester studio
Japan studio
Pixel opus
London studio
Ready At Dawn ...

RupeeHoarder1d 15h ago

The difference being Sony has a large group of other studios that have done something positive. Microsoft just closed the studio to the only good game they released in the past year (Hi-Fi Rush).

CrashMania1d 14h ago

They all suck as well of course. But MS spent 10s of billions on these publishers for mass consolidation, every made a song and dance about how MS would save them, using their endless Windows, 365 and Azure money to keep them open forever and how Phil was some hero.

Nothing is safe unless it makes money, even for MS.

romulus231d 14h ago

It is a big deal.

Microsoft has closed
Fasa Studios
Digital Anvil
Ensemble
Lionhead Studios
Press Play
Arkane Austin
Tango Gameworks

Einhander19721d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Wow how far back do you want to go back.

Lionhead Studios
Aces Game Studio
BigPark
Carbonated Game
Digital Anvil
Ensemble Studios
FASA Studio
Good Science Studio
Hired Gun
Microsoft Studios Japan
Microsoft Studios Victoria
Team Dakota
Xbox Entertainment Studios
Xbox Live Productions
Lift London
Access Software
Salt Lake Games Studio
Twisted Pixel Games
WingNut Interactive

And more before this, this was just their cuts during xbone era that Phil cut while he was at the head.

And some of those PlayStation studios were merged not closed, most of the UK studios were folded into each other.

Japan Studio was renamed to Asobi not closed, aAsobi was an internal team of Japan Studio the "closure" the press misinformed people about was more or less a name change, the studio is in the same building and when the change happened less than 5 people mostly leadership positions chose to leave the studio to form Bokeh Studio, which still works closely with Sony.

And even if your deflection stood on it's own, Microsoft spent 3 Billion 3 years ago almost to the date to buy Zenimax and has already closed 2 of it's biggest studios and decimated Zenimax's support studio structure.

It's no wonder Todd Howard was talking about "more frequent releases" and letting other studios make their IP's games. The days of big budget huge Bethesda games is over...

In fact sadly Microsoft has ushered in the end of big budget gaming as we know it with their obviously unsustainable subscription industry change.

And I feel fully confident that this isn't the end of studio closures from these recently purchased studios.

Abnor_Mal1d 14h ago

Ready At Dawn was never a Sony owned studio, and only made a few smaller God of War games and a Jax and Daxter spin off, and of course The Order1866.

They are currently owned by OcUlus Studios.

MrDead1d 14h ago

How many times has MS fired Bethesda staff since they purchased it? I think it's been three rounds so far

BehindTheRows1d 14h ago

Deflection is the finest form of delusion.

shinoff21831d 14h ago

London studio what have they made recently. Really the worst one was Japan studio. That sucked.

In reality though your deflecting. The fact of the matter is Ms just closed the studio that made their highest rated game in years. That's insane.

Hofstaderman1d 14h ago

Also many of those staff were absorbed into other studios.

VariantAEC1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Ready At Dawn was never a PS first party studio.
Manchester was closed and it was proposed that London should be closed, but their website is still up with no news about it being closed on their official site anywhere. So it's possible that the proposed closure just did not happen to get fufilled. Meaning London Studio *MIGHT* still be open running lean.

Edit: Japan Studio was closed with some staff making up the new Asobi Team Studio who's first title was the PS5 pack-in game "Astro's Playroom." Pixel Opus was closed and not replaced or spun-off their only games were Entwined and Concrete Genie they also helped publish Journey according to Wikipedia.

Chevalier1d 2h ago

Man you got crap info

Sony never owned Ready at Dawn. It's now owned by Oculus.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Tacoboto1d 15h ago

Phil needs to step down. What kind of usual spin do you want?

More and more people lose jobs but the people at the top stay the same. Hardware sales tank despite billions and billions spent. The math is plain and simple.

Sonic18811d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I'm still trying to figure out what was the real reason to acquire Bethesda for millions or Billions of dollars if you're closing down studios 🤔 What were their true intentions 🤔 I mean do Microsoft really want to be a third-party publisher? It sounds like they're confused.with their future in gaming

VariantAEC1d 12h ago

@Sonic1881
To rape each studio for their sweet succulent ultra-valuable IP. This is Microsoft's favorite past-time.

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