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No TV features for Xbox One at launch (for Europe)

Only America and Japan will have access to the Xbox One’s interactive TV features at launch, with Europe and the UK forced to wait until later.

Microsoft has confirmed that the TV features highlighted at the Xbox One’s unveiling in May will not be available at launch in Europe.

MEGANE3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

So much for " tv, tv,tv, tv, tv tv, tv, tv, tv,....and game, tv, tv, tv, tv...cod dog, tv, tv, tv"... hahaha

Mike134nl3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

I hope that at least the IR-blaster will still work to turn on the tv.

gaffyh3870d ago

Just confirms that the reveal event in May which was broadcast worldwide, was just for the American audience. We all suspected it, and this confirms it. MS is so unprepared it's actually sad.

ICECREAM3870d ago

What a useless piece of Sh...it

shoddy3870d ago

In the mean time just press the source button on the TV remote for now to switch to TV.

JokesOnYou3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

Yeah shoddy in the meantime whether its X1 or ps4 you just have to use your cable box separately(in Europe).

OK, OK, so let me get this straight essentially microsoft has promised as much as sony and MORE TV functionality, both won't have some things available at launch, 1 of micros biggest features wont be ready in Europe making it essentially on par feature wise with ps4 in Europe. So its plus in US and even in Europe where both just essentially have games at launch, with micro still having the higher quantity of AAA games and imo the better qaulity of launch games in too.

How is not having TV functionality that ps4 doesnt have either at launch in Europe while having all the TV functionality in US which ps4 doesnt have terrible news for micro? By my count thats 1 point for micro in the US, with at worst a draw in Europe. I don't see how we are basicly trying penalize the one who is at least attempting to offer MORE OPTIONS. Plus you got to excuse my laughter hearing so many who "don't care about tv" now say "omg this isn't ready"...pfft OK, lol but I am relieved I live in the US.

gaffyh by that same logic sony has "backtracked" to us since the 1st reveal of the ps4 controller, to include E3, to include Yoshida interview, to include Mark Cernys late night tv on air talk about the share button/direct youtube upload sony has promoted that feature all we know now is that "its coming" same as this for micro. No cries of inconsistency from you inthat regard? Of course not.

gaffyh3870d ago

@JOY - "How is not having TV functionality that ps4 doesnt have either at launch in Europe while having all the TV functionality in US which ps4 doesnt have terrible news for micro?"

Simple, because they focused so much on TV, and now they're backtracking saying it won't be available at launch. Their message is inconsistent at best, and incompetent at worst.

XboxFun3870d ago

So having no TV features which every Sony fanboy complained about is now a BAD thing and inconsistent with their message?

It is coming and it will be there and in the meantime you CAN play the great games still available at launch for the Xbox One.

Wow, I tell you...

Hicken3870d ago

It's a big deal because they put all their eggs in the TV basket, talking it up and spending HUGE amounts of money on it.

Yes, we PS fans- and plenty more- think it's utterly stupid that they've spent so much time focusing on TV deals and content. But you've gotta admit it's even DUMBER for them to have this massive feature that's one of the core draws of their console hardly be available.

Are you serious? JokesOnYou, XboxFun, are you guys absolutely serious with your comments?

And you talk about PlayStation fanboys...

XboxFun3870d ago

@Hicken

"It's a big deal because they put all their eggs in the TV basket, talking it up and spending HUGE amounts of money on it."

Please just stop! They have also spent huge amounts of money in GAMING. You know Hicken, the thing we all do on this site.

MS has also spent HUGE amounts of money on DR3, Titanfall, Quantum Break, D4, Crimson Dragon, Project Spark, Forza 5, etc etc

Oh how about that huge amount on new games and game studios that they said in their presentation reveal? I love how you keep skipping over that.
How about that HUGE amount on dedicated servers offered for FREE for any dev that wants to utilize them.

"Yes, we PS fans- and plenty more- think it's utterly stupid that they've spent so much time focusing on TV deals and content"

I just LOVE your sony selective minds and your ability to only see what you want. Did Sony not just announce the Vita TV? Did Sony not just announce deals with television companies for exclusive TV content for their PS4?

They are doing the EXACT same thing MS is.

JokesOnYou3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

"Yes, we PS fans- and plenty more- think it's utterly stupid that they've spent so much time focusing on TV deals and content."

lol Hicken yeah sure as if since E3 microsoft has been talking TV. You mean the nfl deal? I mean name all these deals and all this content you speak of that micro won't shut up about?

Yet I see Microsoft/devs talking much MORE about a combination of any these games, features and policies on a daily basis which of course you should be well aware of because sonyfanboys like you quickly jump on every X1 thread like a pack of rabid dogs to hate on just about every thread that mentions these topics:

Ryse
Forza 5
KI
DR3
Titanfall
Project Spark (haven't seen any hate for this I admit)
Cloud
Kinect
Dedicated Servers
X1 architecture
Indie support
Online

=These are the things micro has been talking about most for X1....but of course you conveniently only want to focus on their tv plans. I for one do think this is very unfortunate that Euro have to wait a bit for this but hopefully it won't be long and its not as if we dont see this happen alot last gen and this gen with sony and micro bringing features later to Europe or after launch in general.

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Thisisjuju3870d ago

I don't really care about the TV features personally.

But the fact that MS makes the TV aspect one of their most unique and core features not having it at launch seems severely incompetent.

I really believe MS is rushing this launch.

MEGANE3870d ago

@Hikes and jocks on u! Letme answer that question 4 u!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?... ... If you take that away... what features do u have left?

RytGear3870d ago

Wow, well that is quite a kick in the face as this is one of its more unique features.

bigboirock3870d ago

it is but most people that will buy it on day one is for the games anyway

Muerte24943870d ago

@bigboirock,

I'm not going to troll because what you're saying is correct and I won't give you stealth disagrees for no reason. People who purchase ANY system Day one are already sold on it. That fact that some features won't be there day one, won't hinder the purchase in any way. With that being said, how can this be a pillar of your next gen console and you not have it ready outside America? Just more and more signs of a rushed to market system.

karl3870d ago

seriously .. what games?

Mike134nl3870d ago

they will receive fifa one for free. But still a shame as I remember that this was one of the reasons they delayed in Europe in order to make deals with the broadcast companies.

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captain_slow823870d ago

its the ONE unique feature that xbox one has and what % will use such feature prob about 5% lol

Thirty3Three3870d ago

The feature's coming to the PS4 as well haha!

andrewsqual3870d ago

Its already on PS3 with PlayTV. Its alright but again, WHO CARES.

pompombrum3870d ago

Was thinking this myself, the tv feature was really the only unique aspect of the console that I had any interest in. Being able to game while keeping an eye on the football without having to find my phone was quite appealing to me.

Ah well, just another embarrassing 180 to add to the long list.

hakeem09963870d ago

how is that a 180 and how is that MS fault? You do realise that your cable provider needs to agree to MS's tv functionality so if it's not coming at lunch you should blame you cable provider .why is Japan out of all places getting it at launch and you not ? ask ur cable company.

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Jdoki3870d ago

This is a huge black mark against MS. They could have announced this at GamesCom. There will be a lot of people who will not know that everything MS showed about interactive TV being the future does not apply to Europe.

Death3870d ago

Does not apply at launch. It's something that will be addressed as time goes by. It has to do with tv standards in Europe not being the same as other territories.

iamnsuperman3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

But like Jdoki said this is something that should have been said at Gamescom. Why is this being mentioned at TGS. Not making this clear is misinforming the public.

Jdoki3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

@Death

Yeah, I read the article :)...

But looking at this part of the interview...

"‘It’s not going to be us – it’s not the early adopters that this is a problem [for] – which is why we’re not prioritising solving it right off the bat,’ said Penello.

‘Because the price of the consoles will have to come down like they do in every generation, the market will expand, we’ll eventually catch up to the people who are probably laggards in TV, and by that time we’ll have a more robust story than we have at launch.’"

Doesn't sound like it's coming any time soon after launch does it!? If he's talking about not getting it solved until after price of the console comes down. What are we talking about, 1 year? 2? before it's solved.

And even if they do solve the issue, it's likely to be piecemeal and may never be implemented for some people (i.e. Sky subscribers)

Death3870d ago

I see your point. Had they made it clear, like maybe back in May that the tv functions were going to launch first in the U.S. only, then this would be much less an issue. http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

Kayant3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

@iamnsuperman

Agreed it's like the Fifa solution all over again. General consensus was that every XB1 pre-order will get Fifa 14 until about 2-3 weeks later when it's confirmed to be only Day-one editions even thought it wasn't worded like that previously.

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Sitdown3870d ago

Just a thought, maybe at the time of Gamescom they believed it to still be a possibility for launch. What we do know is that it has now been announced, and people have time to cancel preorders if they so desire.

Deividas3870d ago

Seriously?...Another thing that you cant do as soon as you shell out that much cash....So, what can you actually do with this thing at launch?? Damn

gaelic_laoch3870d ago (Edited 3870d ago )

Basically now in Europe the xbone is a less powerful PS4 with no redeeming features to buy day one! FOR SHAME M$ for shame!

Magicite3870d ago

what do u expect from rushed product

Kayant3870d ago

I thought this was already known....

Jdoki3870d ago

I think this is the first time it has been confirmed by an MS Exec. Everything else has been speculation.

I had a search round N4G before posting the story, but couldn't find anything official.

Kayant3870d ago

You're right.... I thought so from reading the "Q: Do I need to have a specific cable or satellite TV provider to watch live TV on Xbox?" section.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7214h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga37m ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

purple1013h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac2h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 8h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 5h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN22h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies20h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 8h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic18h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9017h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 9h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 6h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 9h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 8h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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